Re: Astrolabes
I have two commercial planispheric astrolabes. The Norman Greene one in the puzzler link below looks as if it might not be accurate, however it is easy to read in full sun. Another I have is clearly more accurate but in full sun rather hard to read. Mr Morrison's work is definitive, excellent. My DeltaCAD macro for astrolabes (planispheric) will let you check designs. I only address the sun, not other heavenly bodies. My main spreadsheet also provides planispheric astrolabe design data. I also wrote an idiot's guide to designing them. www.illustratingshadows.com and all that stuff is free. Simon Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:09, Patrick Vyvyanwrote: First post here, so I don't know if I'm doing it right! Here are a couple of links to reproduction astrolabes, but I have no idea as to their precision: http://www.puzzlering.net/astrolabe.html http://www.astrolabeshop.com/us/astrolabes-page1.htm Some people with considerably more skill than me have made their own, and the level of accuracy looks very superior. That said, some have taken hundreds of hours of work! Have a look at the site of the late James E. Morrison for some fascinating examples: http://www.astrolabes.org/pages/individual.htm Best wishes and season's greetings to all! Patrick Patrick Vyvyan Presidente Corporación Cultural de Putaendo On 22 December 2016 at 09:24, Dan-George Uza wrote: Dear group, While visiting the Barcelona CosmoCaixa this spring I saw a wonderful looking astrolabe on display in the science museum gift shop. It is the one listed below: http://www.antiquus.es/p-172/ Orientacion-y-Medida/ Astrolabio/Astrolabio- Arsenius-20-(dos-latitudes) This brass plated astrolabe measures 20 cm / almost 8" and it comes with two base plates for two different latitudes (41 and 45 degrees). I was very tempted to buy it but after doing some research back home I found that there are some inaccuracies in the rete and alidade design. They are pointed out in the link below (in Spanish). http://www.oagarraf.net/ Comunicacions/ASTROLABI/INDEX% 20ASTROLABI.html Can you sugest other working astrolabes in this price range? Dan Uza -- - https://lists.uni-koeln.de/ mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Astrolabes
First post here, so I don't know if I'm doing it right! Here are a couple of links to reproduction astrolabes, but I have no idea as to their precision: http://www.puzzlering.net/astrolabe.html http://www.astrolabeshop.com/us/astrolabes-page1.htm Some people with considerably more skill than me have made their own, and the level of accuracy looks very superior. That said, some have taken hundreds of hours of work! Have a look at the site of the late James E. Morrison for some fascinating examples: http://www.astrolabes.org/pages/individual.htm Best wishes and season's greetings to all! Patrick *Patrick Vyvyan* *Presidente* *Corporación Cultural de Putaendo* On 22 December 2016 at 09:24, Dan-George Uzawrote: > Dear group, > > While visiting the Barcelona CosmoCaixa this spring I saw a wonderful > looking astrolabe on display in the science museum gift shop. > > It is the one listed below: > > http://www.antiquus.es/p-172/Orientacion-y-Medida/Astrolabio/Astrolabio- > Arsenius-20-(dos-latitudes) > > This brass plated astrolabe measures 20 cm / almost 8" and it comes with > two base plates for two different latitudes (41 and 45 degrees). > > I was very tempted to buy it but after doing some research back home I > found that there are some inaccuracies in the rete and alidade design. They > are pointed out in the link below (in Spanish). > > http://www.oagarraf.net/Comunicacions/ASTROLABI/INDEX%20ASTROLABI.html > > Can you sugest other working astrolabes in this price range? > > > Dan Uza > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Astrolabes
Dear Membership, Thanks for all the listings on Astrolabes! This is an area I'd neglected in my studies. I'm finding the information very interesting and have started to build a 6 inch one for my area. ( For the summer months when it isn't raining nearly every day. ) I'm also interested in early navigational methods and this fits right in. I'm also designing the prototype of the Cycloid Polar Book Dial. I'm planning on doing it in Ceramic, but am very concerned about the accuracy of the cycloid curve and shrinking/distortion in curing. I think I'll make the two halves of the book separate so I can fit in the linear scale and test the surfaces before I add the markings and final glaze. If anyone has any hints/experiences here, I would be happy to hear them. Edley McKnight, [43.126N 123.327W] OK, so I move around some :-)
Re: Astrolabes?
The shop of the ROG museum in Greenwich used to sell a cardboard/paper astrolabe model... If you can't go there, have a look at http://www.rog.nmm.ac.uk/ Thierry vs Kevin Conod wrote: I'm looking for brass repleca astrolabes for an exhibit. I've got Norman Green's web site, but are there any other good sources for these? I'm also interested in paper and carboard replicas as well for workshops, etc. Please e-mail me if you have any details. -- --Kevin Conod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jim Morrison's personalised laminated card astrolabe is excellent, with a great instruction book see:- http://www.astrolabes.org/ You can also download an electronic version which shows the position of the planets Have a look. Mike Shaw http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jmikeshaw/ N 53º 21' 24 W 03º 01' 47 Wirral, UK.
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http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/tops/astlabe.html has a do-it-yourself astrolabe you print and assemble. -Original Message- From: Kevin Conod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:59 PM To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: Astrolabes? I'm looking for brass repleca astrolabes for an exhibit. I've got Norman Green's web site, but are there any other good sources for these? I'm also interested in paper and carboard replicas as well for workshops, etc. Please e-mail me if you have any details. -- --Kevin Conod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Astrolabes?
I'm looking for brass repleca astrolabes for an exhibit. I've got Norman Green's web site, but are there any other good sources for these? I'm also interested in paper and carboard replicas as well for workshops, etc. Please e-mail me if you have any details. -- --Kevin Conod [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best site I know of for astrolabe information is http://www.astrolabes.org/ He sells an inexpensive working paper astrolabe which I've used quite successfully. Another working astrolabe model that looks more like a period brass model with modern positions and thus quite functional can be found at http://www.celestaire.com/catalog/Historical_Interest/ They have a planispheric and mariner's astrolabe kits (cardboard) as well as a nocturnal, sundial, and perpetual calendar set. Brass astrolabes are quite expensive. Sites that I've come across are http://www.saundersandcooke.com/ http://renaissance-faire.com/shop/Timeless-Instruments.htm http://www.astrolabe.ch/start.htm They seem to be largely showpieces, but the ones that are usable are the ones that have the large price tag. Ad astra, Keith == LtCol Keith E Brandt,MD,MPH || Goodbye cruel world that was my home- Chief of Aerospace Medicine || there's cleaner space out here to roam McConnell AFB, Wichita, KS || Put my feet up on the moons of Mars- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| sit back, relax, and count the stars http://www.dca.net/~brandt || == *This message transmitted with 100% recycled electrons
Re: Astrolabes Bibliography
Víctor Pérez Villar wrote: Does Anybody Know Something About Astrolabes? , I mean some kind of books or bibliography. I am interested in how they are built, mainly their mathematical steps like Projection of Planes on the Ecuador, Horizon, etc... Víctor Pérez Villar L'Association Francaise de topogrphie has just printed the fallowing book: Raymond d'Hollader L'ASTROLABE I have bought it and I think it is very interesting ( pheraps to much mathematical, if one does not like mathematics) For your commodity, I attach the coupon for order Giovanni Barbi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attachment converted: MAC Hard Disk:astro1.jpg (JPEG/JVWR) (000140F7) Attachment converted: MAC Hard Disk:astro2.jpg (JPEG/JVWR) (000140F8)
Re: Astrolabes Bibliography
Victor, 'ALL THE ASTROLABES' by Harold N. Saunders 1984 Senecio Publishing Company Limited, Oxford Englans I was able to get a copy thru interlibrary loan in the US. At 10:25 AM 3/30/99 +0200, Víctor Pérez VillarpbGxhcg== wrote: Does Anybody Know Something About Astrolabes? , I mean some kind of books or bibliography. I am interested in how they are built, mainly their mathematical steps like Projection of Planes on the Ecuador, Horizon, etc... Víctor Pérez Villar -- Michael Grey Grad Student Dept. of Wildlife and Fisheries Texas AM University [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: astrolabes
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Dave Bell wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, RJS Crossley wrote: Tarquin Publications of Stradbroke, Diss IP21 5JP, England, Haven't found anything by them on Astrolabes, though. Dave I got the Sundial book and an Astrolabe kit at the Old Royal Observatory at Greenwich. Apart from the fact that the designs in the book don't go below 30 deg latitude, and I'm ant 18 deg, it's excellent. I've built most of them, modified as best as possible for my latitude. The Make-it-yourself Astrolabe seems to be published by the National Maritime Museum. The label says it cost UKP 2.50. I also got a carboard Nocturnal kit too while there. Cheers Keith Keith Manison Phone (876)927-2148 Director, Information Systems Unit Fax (876)927-0997 University of the West Indies Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mona, Kingston 7, Jamaica W.I.
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Perhaps the book that is being thought of is The Astrolabe, Some Notes on its History, Construction Use by R.S. Webster, Lake Bluff, 1974. It contains a card model of an Astolabe. I got a copy from Rogers Turner Books, Greenwich London. Luke Dave Bell wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, RJS Crossley wrote: Tarquin Publications of Stradbroke, Diss IP21 5JP, England, publish a splendid cut-out book of Sundials and Timedials, by Gerald Jenkins and Magdalen Bear (ISBN 0 906212 59 6) - very cheap! I believe the same publisher offers an Astrolabe in the same format. Richard Crossley. Dept. of Physics, University of York, York YO1 5DD, England. Cheap, indeed! $8.71 at www.books.com and appears to be in stock! Also by Jenkins/Tarquin, an entire series of cut-out and model books for mathematical and astronomical education, all cheap... Haven't found anything by them on Astrolabes, though. Dave
Re: astrolabes
Tarquin Publications of Stradbroke, Diss IP21 5JP, England, publish a splendid cut-out book of Sundials and Timedials, by Gerald Jenkins and Magdalen Bear (ISBN 0 906212 59 6) - very cheap! I believe the same publisher offers an Astrolabe in the same format. At the other extreme is Humphrey Cole's astrolabe (and other mathematical instruments) which I had the good fortune to see on Saturday in a special exhibition at the British Museum (room 69a). Richard Crossley. Dept. of Physics, University of York, York YO1 5DD, England.
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les: I have designed two Astrolabes and am particular to them over sundials. The best reference I am aware of is called ALL the Astrolabes by Harold Saunders It it is out of print But I manages a almost completely xeroxed copy. Otherwise, Many back isues of astronomy magazines show methods of construction. Lastly find a copy of Geoffey Chaucers Treatise on the Astrolabe If it suits anyone, I have some lovely drawings created in AutoCAD for the designs of my astrolabes. -- From: Les Cowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sundial@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE Subject: Astrolabes Date: Sunday, August 25, 1996 9:30 AM I am looking for a book or references on the mathematics and design of astrolabes.
Re: Astrolabes
Les Cowley wrote: I am looking for a book or references on the mathematics and design of astrolabes. Apologies if this is a little off topic, but since the maths is not too dissimilar from that of sundials it is likely that some list members will be astrolabe designers too and I would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks Les Cowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/96 - 14:30:48 GMT+1 Les, Some books about astrolabes. I don't know if they are still available. All the astrolabes by Harold N. Saunders, 1984. ISBN 0 906831 040 Traite de l`astrolabe by Henri Michel, 1976. First edition published in 1947, in 1976 a limited reprint. It is French. Astrolabes of the world by Robert T Gunther. (A large book) First published 1932. Reprint 1976. Das astrolabium und die Uhr by Johann Hugin, 1978, German. ISBN 3 921348 23 4 Articles in the bulletin of De Zonnewijzerkring (the Dutch Sundial Society) in dutch. It is about 15 years ago I started with some study of the astrolabes and it is very interesting. I made a computerprogram to draw the tympans for several latitudes but it is more pleasant to study the maths first. Fer J. de Vries, Netherlands.