Re: CORRECTIONS Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...

2014-06-24 Thread Luke Coletti



If you look at the page source, Meeus is being using via a port to 
JavaScript. It's also mentioned in Note 4 in the page below:


http://www.precisedirections.co.uk/Sundials/Solar_Position_Calculator.html

I pretty much implemented the same thing only as a server side process, 
not a client side one.


http://www.gcstudio.com/suncalc.html

By the way, there can be issues with various browsers when running 
client side computations.


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9389315/cross-browser-javascript-number-precision


Luke


On 6/12/14, 12:18 PM, Bill Gottesman wrote:


Well, you could include both ways.  This is a really nice resource you
have provided.  Did you already say the reference for your high
precision calculations?  -Bill


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Kevin Karney kar...@me.com
mailto:kar...@me.com wrote:

Dear Friends

Thanks for the positive comments!
And thanks to Gianni Ferrari, Patrick Powers, Edward French and Jack
Aubert for pointing out the MAJOR error in the Annual Equation of
Time Table.
It was giving EoT values /across/ the table instead of /down/, which
is an error I had corrected before - but had crept back in!
That has been corrected Many apologies

Also, by popular request,  I have changed the sign of EoT from the
strict astronomical convention to the more usual gnomonical
convention (the correction to get from sundial to local mean time).

Gianni also wants Azimuth measured from the South... I am a 0 deg at
North person. Any thoughts ? I will probably change things to give a
radio button, so you can choose.

I have had requests for a solar noon table and solar east/west table
and a half-minute Victorian table - which I shall implement in due
course

Best wishes
Kevin

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Re: CORRECTIONS Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...

2014-06-12 Thread David Patte ₯
I also write astronomical algorithms and astronomical software. And I 
also use Meeus for my inspiration.


Meeus, though an astronomer, also recommends measuring from South, but I 
have decided over several astronomical products to continue measuring 
from North, which more laymen are familiar with.



products to ,On 2014-06-12 13:12, Kevin Karney wrote:

Dear Friends

Thanks for the positive comments!
And thanks to Gianni Ferrari, Patrick Powers, Edward French and Jack 
Aubert for pointing out the MAJOR error in the Annual Equation of Time 
Table.
It was giving EoT values /across/ the table instead of /down/, which 
is an error I had corrected before - but had crept back in!

That has been corrected Many apologies

Also, by popular request,  I have changed the sign of EoT from the 
strict astronomical convention to the more usual gnomonical convention 
(the correction to get from sundial to local mean time).


Gianni also wants Azimuth measured from the South... I am a 0 deg at 
North person. Any thoughts ? I will probably change things to give a 
radio button, so you can choose.


I have had requests for a solar noon table and solar east/west table 
and a half-minute Victorian table - which I shall implement in due course


Best wishes
Kevin


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Re: CORRECTIONS Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...

2014-06-12 Thread Bill Gottesman
Well, you could include both ways.  This is a really nice resource you have
provided.  Did you already say the reference for your high precision
calculations?  -Bill


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Kevin Karney kar...@me.com wrote:

 Dear Friends

 Thanks for the positive comments!
 And thanks to Gianni Ferrari, Patrick Powers, Edward French and Jack
 Aubert for pointing out the MAJOR error in the Annual Equation of Time
 Table.
 It was giving EoT values *across* the table instead of *down*, which is
 an error I had corrected before - but had crept back in!
 That has been corrected Many apologies

 Also, by popular request,  I have changed the sign of EoT from the strict
 astronomical convention to the more usual gnomonical convention (the
 correction to get from sundial to local mean time).

 Gianni also wants Azimuth measured from the South... I am a 0 deg at North
 person. Any thoughts ? I will probably change things to give a radio
 button, so you can choose.

 I have had requests for a solar noon table and solar east/west table and a
 half-minute Victorian table - which I shall implement in due course

 Best wishes
 Kevin

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Re: CORRECTIONS Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...

2014-06-12 Thread Patrick Powers
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for that change.  An apparently similar problem seems to apply to the 
‘Victorian EoT’ table when Longitude is zero.  There are then listed EoT values 
of 23 and 24 mins in Jan and Feb.

You asked for input re formats on azimuth.  I think that just as with the sign 
of the EoT there are conventions that grew up with gnomonics and conventions 
that arose within astronomy and navigation.  If what you are providing is 
intended more as a resource for those interested in sundials then maybe 
Gianni’s view should prevail?
I suspect your idea of a radio button for these would be the best option!
Regards

Patrick

From: Kevin Karney 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:12 PM
To: Sundial 
Subject: CORRECTIONS  Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...

Dear Friends 

Thanks for the positive comments!
And thanks to Gianni Ferrari, Patrick Powers, Edward French and Jack Aubert for 
pointing out the MAJOR error in the Annual Equation of Time Table. 
It was giving EoT values across the table instead of down, which is an error I 
had corrected before - but had crept back in!
That has been corrected Many apologies

Also, by popular request,  I have changed the sign of EoT from the strict 
astronomical convention to the more usual gnomonical convention (the correction 
to get from sundial to local mean time).

Gianni also wants Azimuth measured from the South... I am a 0 deg at North 
person. Any thoughts ? I will probably change things to give a radio button, so 
you can choose.

I have had requests for a solar noon table and solar east/west table and a 
half-minute Victorian table - which I shall implement in due course

Best wishes
Kevin



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Re: CORRECTIONS Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...

2014-06-12 Thread Kevin Karney
Thanks, Patrick
That glitch has been fixed.
Kevin

On 12 Jun 2014, at 21:38, Patrick Powers patrick_pow...@compuserve.com wrote:

 Hi Kevin,
 Thanks for that change.  An apparently similar problem seems to apply to the 
 ‘Victorian EoT’ table when Longitude is zero.  There are then listed EoT 
 values of 23 and 24 mins in Jan and Feb.
  
 You asked for input re formats on azimuth.  I think that just as with the 
 sign of the EoT there are conventions that grew up with gnomonics and 
 conventions that arose within astronomy and navigation.  If what you are 
 providing is intended more as a resource for those interested in sundials 
 then maybe Gianni’s view should prevail?
 I suspect your idea of a radio button for these would be the best option!
 Regards
 
 Patrick
  
 From: Kevin Karney
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:12 PM
 To: Sundial
 Subject: CORRECTIONS  Extensions to A few new Tables for the Gnomonist...
  
 Dear Friends
  
 Thanks for the positive comments!
 And thanks to Gianni Ferrari, Patrick Powers, Edward French and Jack Aubert 
 for pointing out the MAJOR error in the Annual Equation of Time Table.
 It was giving EoT values across the table instead of down, which is an error 
 I had corrected before - but had crept back in!
 That has been corrected Many apologies
  
 Also, by popular request,  I have changed the sign of EoT from the strict 
 astronomical convention to the more usual gnomonical convention (the 
 correction to get from sundial to local mean time).
  
 Gianni also wants Azimuth measured from the South... I am a 0 deg at North 
 person. Any thoughts ? I will probably change things to give a radio button, 
 so you can choose.
  
 I have had requests for a solar noon table and solar east/west table and a 
 half-minute Victorian table - which I shall implement in due course
  
 Best wishes
 Kevin
 
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