Re: St. Margareth and the Olympics

2012-08-05 Thread Douglas Bateman
Dear Reinhold and all, 

Andrew James has added detail and I can back up his supposition by quoting 
directly from the booklet, Sundials by Christopher St J Daniel, our former 
chairman of the BSS.

The figure shows one of the dials with the Westminster Tower in the background 
with Big Ben, and the figure caption reads: A modern vertical direct-west dial 
on the church of St Margaret of Antioch, Westminster. Note that the gnomon lies 
parallel to the dial plate, both being parallel to the earth's polar axis. The 
dial is one of four, which overlook Parliament Square and Westminster Abbey. 
They are painted blue, with the numerals gilded in platinum, and were designed 
by the author. They were made by Brookbrae Ltd of London in 1982.

The 56 page booklet is published by Shire Publications Ltd, and has had several 
editions and reprintings. The relatively low cost makes it popular in the book 
stands at tourist centres such as stately homes or English Heritage castles and 
centres of culture. Quite a number of the public have joined the Society as a 
result of being inspired by this booklet.

Olympics. In addition to the successes we should note that one of our members, 
David Brown, was commissioned to make an analemmatic dial for the Olympic park. 
The dial is installed in a 'silver' garden using stainless steel numeral 
markers (there are special gardens with gold, silver and bronze themes). The 
construction was described at our April conference, with one of the inevitable 
problems imposed by the garden designers that the dial was to be partially 
surrounded by silver birch trees!  I hope we will hear more about this dial and 
see some images.

Regards, Doug

On 1 Aug 2012, at 09:39, Reinhold Kriegler wrote:

 Dear friends,
  
 did you see already the “sundial of the month August” at Joël Robic’s 
 splendid website on behalf of the Olympic Games…
 
 http://www.cadrans-solaires.fr/cadrans-Londres-saint-margareth.html
 
 image001.jpg
 
 Regards,
 Reinhold Kriegler
 
 
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RE: St. Margareth

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew James
Dear Reinhold, 

 

Thank you for sharing that link
http://www.cadrans-solaires.fr/cadrans-Londres-saint-margareth.html
http://www.cadrans-solaires.fr/cadrans-Londres-saint-margareth.html
and that picture of the fine St Margaret's, Westminster sundials.

 

I believe they were designed by Chris Daniel and made by Brookbrae but
am open to correction.

 

Something about them which has always caused me to wonder is the absence
of hours from about 6 to 8 a.m. and 4 to 6 p.m. on the North dial, which
only shows hours before 6 a.m. and after 6 p.m. - not the whole time the
Sun is to the North at midsummer. I can think of at least two possible
reasons:

-  firstly, having the gnomon planted as it is in the ring, and
near the edge, would make the space for them insignificantly small. 

-  secondly, the projecting corner turrets of the church tower
probably shade the dial until the Sun is some way North of due East or
due West.

 

The North gnomon could have been designed differently but would then be
less like an inverted version of the South gnomon and this would reduce
the overall symmetry.

Of course, having also East and West dials means there is no shortage of
somewhere to read the time during these hours. Can anyone comment on
this?

 

Regards

Andrew James

 



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Re: St. Margareth

2012-08-01 Thread Bill Gottesman
Thank you for sharing this dial.  It is a great example of the quiet
strength of simple design elements.  The blue background with white lines
and numbers is friendly to the eye and eye-catching at the same time.  The
symmetry of the annular dials surrounding the round stain glass windows is
very satisfying.  Bravo to the designer for keeping it understated and
without furniture.
-Bill

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Reinhold Kriegler
reinhold.krieg...@gmx.dewrote:

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 Dear friends,

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 did you see already the “sundial of the month *August”* at Joël 
 Robic’ssplendid website on b
 **eh**alf of the Olympic Games…

 http://www.cadrans-solaires.fr/cadrans-Londres-saint-margareth.html 




 Regards,

 Reinhold Kriegler

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Re: St. Margareth

2012-08-01 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Hi Bill,
 
I believe the lines on the dials are described by the designer (Chris Daniel, 
the BSS President) as being 'platinum', and the blue colour as 'enamelled' - 
I'm not sure if these are forms of 'gilding' and 'vitreous enamel', 
respectively.
 
Regards,
 
John
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Flowton Dials

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From: Bill Gottesman billgottes...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: St. Margareth
To: Reinhold Kriegler reinhold.krieg...@gmx.de
Cc: Sundial Mailingliste sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Date: Wednesday, 1 August, 2012, 14:00


Thank you for sharing this dial.  It is a great example of the quiet strength 
of simple design elements.  The blue background with white lines and numbers is 
friendly to the eye and eye-catching at the same time.  The symmetry of the 
annular dials surrounding the round stain glass windows is very satisfying.  
Bravo to the designer for keeping it understated and without furniture.
-Bill

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