Re: [SunRay-Users] headless thin solaris srss 4.1 with JASS?
Found this http://www.securitydocs.com/library/2644 Is it possible to install SRSS on such setup? thanks, James On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM, James Tan jamez...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, for a UTTSC usage only SRSS 4.1 on Solaris 10 (x86), is there a way to install 'bare' minimal Solaris 10 so that non-required apps/packages are not installed? Am doing this for a 'really' thin virtualized Solaris Sunray 4.1 on ESX, also to reduce the non required services. I am going towards 'headless' (no X) setup as well. Also is there anyone here who tried using JASS on srss? thanks, James ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Issue with native-mode card login on RHEL
peter_blatherw...@mitel.com schrieb: Fixed it. Thanks for the thoughts all. Based on following down the thread pointed to below by Chuck, found that there was a config file that was bad in our broken RHEL install. (Fine on the others that are working happily). Specifically, the file */etc/pam.d/uthotdesk* needs to look something like: * auth include system-auth * * account include system-auth* * password include system-auth* * session include system-auth* The file had lines of the form *blah required pam_deny.so* -- that does not work, resulting in the card-based hotdesking lock-ups. Looks like it was sending authorizations to oblivion (ie denying access, returning an internal error)? Perhaps others deeper in this area could explain. Any thoughts on how our system might have gotten into this state would be appreciated. Especially, what install process may have gone wrong. One thing I noticed, gnome-screensaver was not installed on our busted system. (This cam up as related in the other thread.) It generates a file for itself in same pm.d directory, of exact form we are looking for here. Could it be SRSS install tries to clone the screensaver file?? Yes. Essentially SRSS tries to clone the 'gnome-screensaver' file for uthdlogin. It falls back to cloning the 'other' file, if that one isn't there. 'Other' really is intended to provide the policy for any new authentication services. If that policy is don't let anyone in, that is what you get. IMHO the paranoid 'other' file that is shipped recently on Linux gets this wrong. Do you have any kind of screen saver or screen lock installed on your system? What is its pam.d file called? And would that file do the right thing for Sun Ray re-login/unlock? - Jörg ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Issue with native-mode card login on RHEL
peter_blatherw...@mitel.com schrieb: At the time, logs are coming out as pasted in below. (That last one in login sequence, about Error opening catalog hdloginGUI sure looks mighty suspect! ;-) That one simply states that there are no localized UI messages for your locale, so you will get the hardcoded English messages. That message should probably be demoted to 'debug' priority. - Jörg ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Solaris 10 10/08 x86 SRSS 4.1
Hello All, This is now working nicely on Solaris. Thank you for your contributions. M On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Marek Dlugozima shamba...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks. I'm looking forward to the same thing. Marek On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Ceri Davies c...@submonkey.net wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:04:56PM -0400, Marek Dlugozima wrote: In the attempt of downloading a patch cluster. I was notified of the need to buy into a Sun Service Plan. I am looking to evaluate the functionality of SRSS on this platform. It works fine here, if that's any use to you. Ceri -- That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] USB key breaks kiosk sessions
This fixed it. Can i recommend that a patch for this be released or at least that its in the next release? Also its will make the initialisation of kiosk sessions much faster in general, I've noticed that already. Thanks John John Francis wrote: 2009/3/26 David Markey dmar...@comp.dit.ie: When there is a USB key with 2000 files on it this takes a _long_ time, in fact so long it times out. /tmp/SUNWut/mnt should really be exempt from the find to stop outages like this. /opt/SUNWkio/lib/utils.sh is where all this goes on. Any suggestions? Have a look at the -mount and -xdev options for find. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] USB key breaks kiosk sessions
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:58 AM, David Markey dmar...@comp.dit.ie wrote: [...] It was because in the initialisation phase of a kiosk session a find -exec rm is done in /tmp and /var/tmp for old files from the last kiosk user. /tmp/SUNWut/mnt is where the USB keys get mounted. This also gets scanned. When there is a USB key with 2000 files on it this takes a _long_ time, in fact so long it times out. /tmp/SUNWut/mnt should really be exempt from the find to stop outages like this. /opt/SUNWkio/lib/utils.sh is where all this goes on. Any suggestions? Edit utils.sh and add a '-mount' option to those 'find' commands. That's the fix that will be delivered in the next kiosk patch. OttoM. __ ottomeister Disclaimer: These are my opinions. I do not speak for my employer. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] headless thin solaris srss 4.1 with JASS?
2009/3/26 James Tan jamez...@gmail.com: Found this http://www.securitydocs.com/library/2644 Is it possible to install SRSS on such setup? If that's your starting point then you'll have to add a lot more packages before SRSS will work. SRSS needs X11, Motif, dtlogin, Java, LDAP client libraries and CLIs, and probably several other things too. Those components in turn will need their own supporting packages. Then you'll need to add the components that the MS Windows Connector needs, including C++ runtime libraries. I don't have a list of the packages that would be required. If you decide to try this and you get it working, it'd be interesting to see what packages you had to add. OttoM. __ ottomeister. Disclaimer: These are my opinions. I do not speak for my employer. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] FYI: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
We use cups from opencsw/blastwave here. We actually have a central cups server setup and that is setup with all of it's printers shared. Then on our sunray servers we also have cups installed and it's set to see printers shared by other servers. So the cups on our sunray servers automatically populate with the printers from our central cups server. We've had this setup for about 6 months now and it's worked really well for us. And I can confirm this works with firefox3 and this new version of acroread. We didn't use to have a central cups server. Only reason we do now is because it's annoying to figure out which sunray server a user having a printing issue is logged into so you can figure out which cups server to login to. Not to mention if you changed a printer on one of the sunray cups servers, then you had to repeat for all your sunray cups servers. Also if we want to work on a printer, then we can unpublish it on the central cups server and it won't appear in the cups on any of the sunray servers anymore. Keeps people from printing to a printer you're trying to work on. Aaron Darrel Hankerson wrote: Stoyan Angelov writes: adobe has finally released a modern port of Adobe Reader for the Solaris x86 platform! The printing support is for cups, and Sun dropped cups from the companion CD for the 10_08 release. Acroread will print without cups, but there's no menu selection of printers. If I recall correctly, the story may be similar for firefox 3 contributed by Sun. Perhaps it's time to switch to cups, but I suspect I'll point acroread to an existing cups server. (In very limited testing, the cups material on our system from 2005 works with 10_08.) What's the smart solution? -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
[SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Server for SOHO
Hello Sun Ray users, I run a one-man company. So far I used the following Computers: - x86 Desktop with Dual-Boot: . Windows XP for development . Linux (Archlinux) for development - Linux Server for fetchmail / IMAP and egroupware After some years the computers get old, slow and to noisy. I decided to virtualize those 3 systems and bought (to support the economy) the following devices: - SUN Server X4150 - SUN StorageTek 2510 - Sun Ray 2FS ( dual head is very important for me) - Sun VDI Software 2.0 License - CISCO ASA 5505 (for remote access - next task) I read the VDA Cookbook, but they use ESX and Virtual Center I don't think I need. I would like to use ESXi. Now I'm trying to set up the system. This I have done so far: - Installed ESXi 3.5.0 (123629) - Installed Solaris 10 10/08 s10x_u6wos_07b X86 with all patches - Installed srss_4.1 - Tried to install sunMC 4.0, but it asks for Postgres and quites. (I installed SUNWpostgr from CD - didn't help) Am I on the right way to reach my goal? Is there a good installation description for such a small system like this? I'm thankful for any help. regards Armin PS: I know how to configure Windows and Linux, but I'm a very beginner with Solaris. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
[SunRay-Users] Off-Topic: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
Stupid question: How do you tell CUPS to populate from a central CUPS server? I have tried looking on the web, but am totally prepared to take a RTFMP if someone could point me at the right man page ;-) Eric Aaron Wilson wrote: We use cups from opencsw/blastwave here. We actually have a central cups server setup and that is setup with all of it's printers shared. Then on our sunray servers we also have cups installed and it's set to see printers shared by other servers. So the cups on our sunray servers automatically populate with the printers from our central cups server. We've had this setup for about 6 months now and it's worked really well for us. And I can confirm this works with firefox3 and this new version of acroread. We didn't use to have a central cups server. Only reason we do now is because it's annoying to figure out which sunray server a user having a printing issue is logged into so you can figure out which cups server to login to. Not to mention if you changed a printer on one of the sunray cups servers, then you had to repeat for all your sunray cups servers. Also if we want to work on a printer, then we can unpublish it on the central cups server and it won't appear in the cups on any of the sunray servers anymore. Keeps people from printing to a printer you're trying to work on. Aaron Darrel Hankerson wrote: Stoyan Angelov writes: adobe has finally released a modern port of Adobe Reader for the Solaris x86 platform! The printing support is for cups, and Sun dropped cups from the companion CD for the 10_08 release. Acroread will print without cups, but there's no menu selection of printers. If I recall correctly, the story may be similar for firefox 3 contributed by Sun. Perhaps it's time to switch to cups, but I suspect I'll point acroread to an existing cups server. (In very limited testing, the cups material on our system from 2005 works with 10_08.) What's the smart solution? -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Off-Topic: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
Have a look here: http://blogs.sun.com/DanX/entry/using_cups_print_server_for And change ServerName in /opt/sfw/cups/etc/cups/client.conf Detlev Am 26.03.2009 um 21:39 schrieb Eric Bautsch: Stupid question: How do you tell CUPS to populate from a central CUPS server? I have tried looking on the web, but am totally prepared to take a RTFMP if someone could point me at the right man page ;-) Eric Aaron Wilson wrote: We use cups from opencsw/blastwave here. We actually have a central cups server setup and that is setup with all of it's printers shared. Then on our sunray servers we also have cups installed and it's set to see printers shared by other servers. So the cups on our sunray servers automatically populate with the printers from our central cups server. We've had this setup for about 6 months now and it's worked really well for us. And I can confirm this works with firefox3 and this new version of acroread. We didn't use to have a central cups server. Only reason we do now is because it's annoying to figure out which sunray server a user having a printing issue is logged into so you can figure out which cups server to login to. Not to mention if you changed a printer on one of the sunray cups servers, then you had to repeat for all your sunray cups servers. Also if we want to work on a printer, then we can unpublish it on the central cups server and it won't appear in the cups on any of the sunray servers anymore. Keeps people from printing to a printer you're trying to work on. Aaron Darrel Hankerson wrote: Stoyan Angelov writes: adobe has finally released a modern port of Adobe Reader for the Solaris x86 platform! The printing support is for cups, and Sun dropped cups from the companion CD for the 10_08 release. Acroread will print without cups, but there's no menu selection of printers. If I recall correctly, the story may be similar for firefox 3 contributed by Sun. Perhaps it's time to switch to cups, but I suspect I'll point acroread to an existing cups server. (In very limited testing, the cups material on our system from 2005 works with 10_08.) What's the smart solution? -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ ___ __ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Off-Topic: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
When I goto https://hostname:631/admin or go to https://hostname:631 and click on Administration. There are two check boxes to pay attention to. One is for the central cups server, the other is for the local cups server. On the central print server check: Share published printers connected to this system On the other print server(s) check: Show printers shared by other systems All of my cups servers are 1.3.x. In our other office we have some cups 1.2.x servers still around. I don't see the option in the 1.2.x web gui to accomplish this, but may be possible if you edit the cups configuration files. Never looked into myself. In the past I've always used http://www.lengers.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=60:solaris-10-how-to-get-cups-printing-goingcatid=53:solarisItemid=61 as guide. That worked well for the Cups included on the supplemental cd. Not so much with the blastwave version, but some of it is valid. Mostly the symlinks and SMF stuff. You're gonna either want the blastwave bin dir in your path or create symlinks. I have both :) Here's what all my lp* files look like. You probably don't need to make symlinks to lpstat or lprm, I was just being thorough. I don't think I've ever used the commands though. bash-3.00$ ls -lsa /usr/bin/lp* 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Nov 5 13:12 /usr/bin/lp - /opt/csw/bin/lp 40 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 19936 Jul 15 2008 /usr/bin/lp.solaris 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 172 Feb 17 2000 /usr/bin/lp_1251 40 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 20468 Mar 19 2008 /usr/bin/lpc 12 -r-x--x--x 1 root lp 5800 Aug 14 2007 /usr/bin/lpget 32 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 15392 Mar 19 2008 /usr/bin/lpq 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Nov 5 13:11 /usr/bin/lpr - /opt/csw/bin/lpr 32 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 16072 Mar 19 2008 /usr/bin/lpr.solaris 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Mar 9 13:47 /usr/bin/lprm - /opt/csw/bin/lprm 32 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 15376 Mar 19 2008 /usr/bin/lprm.solaris 20 -r-s--x--x 1 root lp 10060 Mar 19 2008 /usr/bin/lpset 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Mar 9 13:47 /usr/bin/lpstat - /opt/csw/bin/lpstat 50 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 25500 Jul 15 2008 /usr/bin/lpstat.solaris 12 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root lp 5704 Mar 19 2008 /usr/bin/lptest Mozilla likes to use lpr in /usr/ucb/ and I think some Solaris release have an actual lpr binary there, and some just symlink to the one in /usr/bin You'll probably want to confirm. bash-3.00$ ls -lsa /usr/ucb/lp* 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 08:52 lp - ../bin/lp 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Nov 5 08:36 lpc - ../bin/lpc 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Nov 5 08:36 lpq - ../bin/lpq 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Nov 5 08:36 lpr - ../bin/lpr 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Nov 5 08:36 lprm - ../bin/lprm 2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 5 08:36 lptest - ../bin/lptest Lengers.com talks about some init scripts and SMF scripts. Here's what my SMF print services look like. bash-3.00$ svcs -a |grep print disabled Dec_20 svc:/application/print/server:default disabled Dec_20 svc:/application/print/ipp-listener:default disabled Dec_20 svc:/application/print/rfc1179:default online Dec_20 svc:/application/print/ppd-cache-update:default online Dec_20 svc:/application/cde-printinfo:default online Mar_09 svc:/application/print/cswcups:default Eric Bautsch wrote: Stupid question: How do you tell CUPS to populate from a central CUPS server? I have tried looking on the web, but am totally prepared to take a RTFMP if someone could point me at the right man page ;-) Eric Aaron Wilson wrote: We use cups from opencsw/blastwave here. We actually have a central cups server setup and that is setup with all of it's printers shared. Then on our sunray servers we also have cups installed and it's set to see printers shared by other servers. So the cups on our sunray servers automatically populate with the printers from our central cups server. We've had this setup for about 6 months now and it's worked really well for us. And I can confirm this works with firefox3 and this new version of acroread. We didn't use to have a central cups server. Only reason we do now is because it's annoying to figure out which sunray server a user having a printing issue is logged into so you can figure out which cups server to login to. Not to mention if you changed a printer on one of the sunray cups servers, then you had to repeat for all your sunray cups servers. Also if we want to work on a printer, then we can unpublish it on the central cups server and it won't appear in the cups on any of the sunray servers anymore. Keeps people from printing to a printer you're trying to work on. Aaron Darrel Hankerson wrote: Stoyan Angelov writes: adobe has finally released a modern port of Adobe Reader for the Solaris x86 platform! The printing support is for cups, and Sun dropped cups from the companion CD for the 10_08 release. Acroread will
Re: [SunRay-Users] Off-Topic: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
2009/3/27 Eric Bautsch eric.baut...@pobox.com: I have tried looking on the web, but am totally prepared to take a RTFMP if someone could point me at the right man page ;-) http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sam.html#BrowsePoll :) ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Off-Topic: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
Eric Bautsch writes: Stupid question: How do you tell CUPS to populate from a central CUPS server? If you mean that you want a simple way to use an existing cups server without changing the stock printing on the Solaris system, then I can describe what I tested. 1. Install SFWcups from a Solaris Companion CD. Versions from 2005 and 2008 worked in my limited testing, but 10_08 does not have cups. 2. cups has changed character set handling (and I don't understand all the issues). We have some versions that don't care, but the target machine does. I changed the file /opt/sfw/cups/lib/locale/en_US/ to have utf-8, but there may be smarter workarounds. Here's the script I tested with acroread (replace ... with your cups server). #!/bin/sh prefix=/opt/sfw/cups LC_ALL=en_US CUPS_SERVER=... PATH=$prefix/bin:$PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$prefix/lib export LC_ALL CUPS_SERVER PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH exec /opt/Adobe/Reader9/bin/acroread $@ This gives a menu of printers and appears to work, but my testing is limited. As a simpler test, replace the exec line with something like lpstat -p Monitor the cups error log on the cups server when you run the lpstat test. -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Server for SOHO
Have you managed to get the Sun Ray working? If so just use uttsc or rdesktop to get a session on the Windows box. As for Linux there's always ssh and X forwarding. Alternatively, you can run srss directly on something like CentOS and connect directly to that. On Mar 27, 2009 5:10 AM, Armin Inauen i...@aritec.ch wrote: Hello Sun Ray users, I run a one-man company. So far I used the following Computers: - x86 Desktop with Dual-Boot: . Windows XP for development . Linux (Archlinux) for development - Linux Server for fetchmail / IMAP and egroupware After some years the computers get old, slow and to noisy. I decided to virtualize those 3 systems and bought (to support the economy) the following devices: - SUN Server X4150 - SUN StorageTek 2510 - Sun Ray 2FS ( dual head is very important for me) - Sun VDI Software 2.0 License - CISCO ASA 5505 (for remote access - next task) I read the VDA Cookbook, but they use ESX and Virtual Center I don't think I need. I would like to use ESXi. Now I'm trying to set up the system. This I have done so far: - Installed ESXi 3.5.0 (123629) - Installed Solaris 10 10/08 s10x_u6wos_07b X86 with all patches - Installed srss_4.1 - Tried to install sunMC 4.0, but it asks for Postgres and quites. (I installed SUNWpostgr from CD - didn't help) Am I on the right way to reach my goal? Is there a good installation description for such a small system like this? I'm thankful for any help. regards Armin PS: I know how to configure Windows and Linux, but I'm a very beginner with Solaris. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
[SunRay-Users] utslaunch repeatedly running utdetach
We are experiencing the following on a 4.1 Solaris/x86 Ray server. The keyboard sequence shift-pause to detach succeeds, but runs utdetach repeatedly until the next login, and sufficiently rapid to eat significant resources. We use NSCM, although I'm uncertain if this is relevant. The troublesome machine is updated from SRSS 3.1 (and updated to Solaris 10_08). I'm unable to duplicate on a similar test machine. Running utdetach directly has no problems. I can't find anything on sunsolve, but I'm hoping the issue is known. We do not have ray core services patch 139549 on either system. (Nothing in the patch readme indicates that it would help, however.) -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
[SunRay-Users] Shift Alt key swapped in SRSS4.1 on OpenSuse 11.1
We have SRSS 4.1 installed on OpenSuse 11.1 and experience some problem with the SUN keyboard, the Shift key and Alt key is swapped (only when to enter username password to log in gdmgreeter screen, after logging in, the keys appear normally when typing). I have tried to use xmodmap to switch these 2 keys (by inserting the command line of xmodmap in /etc/opt/SUNWut/gdm/SunRayInit/Default file but did not help. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Giao Huynh CPSC Dept - University of British Columbia ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] utslaunch repeatedly running utdetach
Concerning a flood of utdetach after shift-pause, I wrote: We do not have ray core services patch 139549 on either system. (Nothing in the patch readme indicates that it would help, however.) I suspect I'm mistaken. We have additional problems that are consistent with: 6706040 Xnewt can send auto-repeated keystrokes into a detached session Example: utdetach from the command line can result in repeated Enter into the terminal. I modified utdetach, and shift-pause can cause utslaunch to terminate utdetach and run again (and this repeats rapidly enough to eat significant resources). -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users