Re: [SunRay-Users] Firefox and Flash on Sunrays
I actually just saw some improvement for the first time in years. Like I said in the past it used to be just videos. It seemed like if I went to youtube and played a video, the initial video would hang the browser and once it came back subsequent videos would work on youtube.com If I went to vimeo.com the initially played video would hang the browser and subsequent videos on that site would play fine. Today I just downloaded the latest Firefox 3.53 build for Solaris 10 x86 and I downloaded the latest flash. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5.3/contrib/ I just extracted the tarball to my desktop and put the flash plugin in the plugins folder. Now it still hangs when I first load a page with flash but now it seems subsequent flash pages regardless of domain seem to work fine. Even video! I went to my company home page that has a small flash animation, which did hang the browser for 10 seconds, but then I immediately went to youtube and hit play on a video and it immediately started playing. Amazing!! I haven't seen that in 3 years :) Might be to early to call and I should do more testing but initial tests show marked improvement. That initial flash hang will undoubtedly still confuse my users, but at least it doesn't appear to do that on every single page with flash now. I think maybe I might be motivated to rebuild my servers now to the latest Solaris release and SRSS build. Or maybe I'll be patient and wait for SRSS 4.2. I guess next I'll try the actual pkg version of Firefox 3.53 and see how that works system wide for my users. Regards, Aaron Lars Tunkrans wrote: Hi, Which version of Firefox is used ?the Mozilla guys fixed a number of interesting bugs that caused firefox to hangwith Firefox 2.0.0.18latest is 2.0.0.20 I do belive you should upgrade to SRS 4.1 //Lars Aaron Wilson skrev: Apparently I'm the only one on the planet that can consistently recreate this problem and have been able to do so for some years now. I probably emailed this group 2 years ago with the same problem and I think I just gave up hoping the problem would get fixed. It has only gotten worse. We have two offices. In the one office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works fine on SunRay servers In the other office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works but with problems on SunRay servers. I used to have the problem where normal flash animations worked. If I went to Youtube or any other site with flash videos, Firefox would become unresponsive for anywhere between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Generally it lasts for a minute or so. If I didn't have 30 users telling me about it everytime it happens I could live with it. That was with flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 and prior. Now with versions later than flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 all flash animations regardless of how complex they are or whether or not they have video, make the browser hang. Only difference between the two server setups is the one office has local access over the LAN to the ldap server, and the other office with flash problems accesses the ldap server over an MPLS VPN. I think when I last tried to report this I was told ldap couldn't have any thing to do with this, which leaves SunRay software? I'm in the office with flash sunray problems. In this same office I have 7 Ultra 20 machines that don't use LDAP for authentication and obviously don't have any SunRay software installed and they can run the latest flash_player_10_solaris_r32_18_x86 with no problems. The affected systems are running Sun Ray Server Software Version 4.0 and Solaris 10 8/07 s10x_u4wos_12b X86. I would rebuild the servers with SRSS 4.1 and Solaris 10 5/09 s10x_u7wos_08 X86 but I've rebuilt my servers twice with previous latest versions of Solaris and SRSS now. Neither of those rebuilds made the problem go away. When I last rebuilt my servers I tested Flash before installing SRSS and LDAP auth and Flash worked fine. So in my mind it's gotta be SRSS or LDAP or both in tandem. I'm no software engineer though :) --- Aaron ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Firefox and Flash on Sunrays
Aaron Wilson writes: I used to have the problem where normal flash animations worked. If I went to Youtube or any other site with flash videos, Firefox would become unresponsive for anywhere between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Generally it lasts for a minute or so. What's the packet loss reported by utcapture? We have packet loss (and apparently worse) on one of our subnets that is not completely explained, and flash animations such as NOAA weather movies can make a Solaris desktop on a Ray nearly useless (at more than 20% loss). However, we do not get the complete stall that you are reporting. If you suspect network issues, a useful test is to run a switch directly off the host and connect the Ray there. We've used a $50 Netgear GS108 for this test. We have a somewhat related issue with video that exploits accelerations described for Rays. With consumer-grade hardware, I can trigger a near-standstill with realplayer when these accelerations are in use. I cannot repeat this on our Sun hardware. Interestingly, packet loss is low (according to utcapture). This issue does not affect flash since flashplayer does not exploit the accelerations. Config: Solaris/x86 on X4200 and X2200, SRSS 4.1 and EA. -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Firefox and Flash on Sunrays
Update2: I did a pkgrm SFWfirefox I then download the tarball version of Firefox 3.53 and extracted it to /opt/sfw/lib That's where the pkg version of Firefox 3.53 was installed. If I run /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/firefox I still experience hangs. If I run /home/aaron/Desktop/firefox/firefox I get one hang on the initial flash and then everything works fine. On the 7 Ultra 20's I have here, all are running /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/firefox without problems. Also /opt is a folder on the actual HDD for both the Sunray servers and the ultra20s /home is a mount to our NAS. I don't if that's relevant but I can't think of why /home/aaron/Desktop/firefox/firefox works and /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/firefox doesn't Anyone got any ideas? Aaron Wilson wrote: Update: If I use the pkg'd version of Solaris 3.53 it still hangs on every piece of flash Aaron Wilson wrote: I actually just saw some improvement for the first time in years. Like I said in the past it used to be just videos. It seemed like if I went to youtube and played a video, the initial video would hang the browser and once it came back subsequent videos would work on youtube.com If I went to vimeo.com the initially played video would hang the browser and subsequent videos on that site would play fine. Today I just downloaded the latest Firefox 3.53 build for Solaris 10 x86 and I downloaded the latest flash. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5.3/contrib/ I just extracted the tarball to my desktop and put the flash plugin in the plugins folder. Now it still hangs when I first load a page with flash but now it seems subsequent flash pages regardless of domain seem to work fine. Even video! I went to my company home page that has a small flash animation, which did hang the browser for 10 seconds, but then I immediately went to youtube and hit play on a video and it immediately started playing. Amazing!! I haven't seen that in 3 years :) Might be to early to call and I should do more testing but initial tests show marked improvement. That initial flash hang will undoubtedly still confuse my users, but at least it doesn't appear to do that on every single page with flash now. I think maybe I might be motivated to rebuild my servers now to the latest Solaris release and SRSS build. Or maybe I'll be patient and wait for SRSS 4.2. I guess next I'll try the actual pkg version of Firefox 3.53 and see how that works system wide for my users. Regards, Aaron Lars Tunkrans wrote: Hi, Which version of Firefox is used ?the Mozilla guys fixed a number of interesting bugs that caused firefox to hangwith Firefox 2.0.0.18latest is 2.0.0.20 I do belive you should upgrade to SRS 4.1//Lars Aaron Wilson skrev: Apparently I'm the only one on the planet that can consistently recreate this problem and have been able to do so for some years now. I probably emailed this group 2 years ago with the same problem and I think I just gave up hoping the problem would get fixed. It has only gotten worse. We have two offices. In the one office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works fine on SunRay servers In the other office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works but with problems on SunRay servers. I used to have the problem where normal flash animations worked. If I went to Youtube or any other site with flash videos, Firefox would become unresponsive for anywhere between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Generally it lasts for a minute or so. If I didn't have 30 users telling me about it everytime it happens I could live with it. That was with flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 and prior. Now with versions later than flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 all flash animations regardless of how complex they are or whether or not they have video, make the browser hang. Only difference between the two server setups is the one office has local access over the LAN to the ldap server, and the other office with flash problems accesses the ldap server over an MPLS VPN. I think when I last tried to report this I was told ldap couldn't have any thing to do with this, which leaves SunRay software? I'm in the office with flash sunray problems. In this same office I have 7 Ultra 20 machines that don't use LDAP for authentication and obviously don't have any SunRay software installed and they can run the latest flash_player_10_solaris_r32_18_x86 with no problems. The affected systems are running Sun Ray Server Software Version 4.0 and Solaris 10 8/07 s10x_u4wos_12b X86. I would rebuild the servers with SRSS 4.1 and Solaris 10 5/09 s10x_u7wos_08 X86 but I've rebuilt my servers twice with previous latest versions of Solaris and SRSS now. Neither of those rebuilds made the problem go away. When I last rebuilt my servers I tested Flash before installing SRSS and LDAP auth and Flash worked fine. So in my mind it's gotta be SRSS or LDAP or both in tandem. I'm
Re: [SunRay-Users] Firefox and Flash on Sunrays
Update3 I take back all previous statements. Still doesn't work and now it exhibits the same previous hanging problems no matter where I install to or whether I use the tarball version or pkg version. Aaron Wilson wrote: Update2: I did a pkgrm SFWfirefox I then download the tarball version of Firefox 3.53 and extracted it to /opt/sfw/lib That's where the pkg version of Firefox 3.53 was installed. If I run /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/firefox I still experience hangs. If I run /home/aaron/Desktop/firefox/firefox I get one hang on the initial flash and then everything works fine. On the 7 Ultra 20's I have here, all are running /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/firefox without problems. Also /opt is a folder on the actual HDD for both the Sunray servers and the ultra20s /home is a mount to our NAS. I don't if that's relevant but I can't think of why /home/aaron/Desktop/firefox/firefox works and /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/firefox doesn't Anyone got any ideas? Aaron Wilson wrote: Update: If I use the pkg'd version of Solaris 3.53 it still hangs on every piece of flash Aaron Wilson wrote: I actually just saw some improvement for the first time in years. Like I said in the past it used to be just videos. It seemed like if I went to youtube and played a video, the initial video would hang the browser and once it came back subsequent videos would work on youtube.com If I went to vimeo.com the initially played video would hang the browser and subsequent videos on that site would play fine. Today I just downloaded the latest Firefox 3.53 build for Solaris 10 x86 and I downloaded the latest flash. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5.3/contrib/ I just extracted the tarball to my desktop and put the flash plugin in the plugins folder. Now it still hangs when I first load a page with flash but now it seems subsequent flash pages regardless of domain seem to work fine. Even video! I went to my company home page that has a small flash animation, which did hang the browser for 10 seconds, but then I immediately went to youtube and hit play on a video and it immediately started playing. Amazing!! I haven't seen that in 3 years :) Might be to early to call and I should do more testing but initial tests show marked improvement. That initial flash hang will undoubtedly still confuse my users, but at least it doesn't appear to do that on every single page with flash now. I think maybe I might be motivated to rebuild my servers now to the latest Solaris release and SRSS build. Or maybe I'll be patient and wait for SRSS 4.2. I guess next I'll try the actual pkg version of Firefox 3.53 and see how that works system wide for my users. Regards, Aaron Lars Tunkrans wrote: Hi, Which version of Firefox is used ?the Mozilla guys fixed a number of interesting bugs that caused firefox to hangwith Firefox 2.0.0.18latest is 2.0.0.20 I do belive you should upgrade to SRS 4.1//Lars Aaron Wilson skrev: Apparently I'm the only one on the planet that can consistently recreate this problem and have been able to do so for some years now. I probably emailed this group 2 years ago with the same problem and I think I just gave up hoping the problem would get fixed. It has only gotten worse. We have two offices. In the one office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works fine on SunRay servers In the other office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works but with problems on SunRay servers. I used to have the problem where normal flash animations worked. If I went to Youtube or any other site with flash videos, Firefox would become unresponsive for anywhere between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Generally it lasts for a minute or so. If I didn't have 30 users telling me about it everytime it happens I could live with it. That was with flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 and prior. Now with versions later than flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 all flash animations regardless of how complex they are or whether or not they have video, make the browser hang. Only difference between the two server setups is the one office has local access over the LAN to the ldap server, and the other office with flash problems accesses the ldap server over an MPLS VPN. I think when I last tried to report this I was told ldap couldn't have any thing to do with this, which leaves SunRay software? I'm in the office with flash sunray problems. In this same office I have 7 Ultra 20 machines that don't use LDAP for authentication and obviously don't have any SunRay software installed and they can run the latest flash_player_10_solaris_r32_18_x86 with no problems. The affected systems are running Sun Ray Server Software Version 4.0 and Solaris 10 8/07 s10x_u4wos_12b X86. I would rebuild the servers with SRSS 4.1 and Solaris 10 5/09 s10x_u7wos_08 X86 but I've rebuilt my servers twice with previous latest versions of Solaris and SRSS
Re: [SunRay-Users] Firefox and Flash on Sunrays
Hi, Which version of Firefox is used ?the Mozilla guys fixed a number of interesting bugs that caused firefox to hangwith Firefox 2.0.0.18latest is 2.0.0.20 I do belive you should upgrade to SRS 4.1 //Lars Aaron Wilson skrev: Apparently I'm the only one on the planet that can consistently recreate this problem and have been able to do so for some years now. I probably emailed this group 2 years ago with the same problem and I think I just gave up hoping the problem would get fixed. It has only gotten worse. We have two offices. In the one office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works fine on SunRay servers In the other office Firefox with recent versions of Flash works but with problems on SunRay servers. I used to have the problem where normal flash animations worked. If I went to Youtube or any other site with flash videos, Firefox would become unresponsive for anywhere between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Generally it lasts for a minute or so. If I didn't have 30 users telling me about it everytime it happens I could live with it. That was with flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 and prior. Now with versions later than flash_player_9_solaris_r47_x86 all flash animations regardless of how complex they are or whether or not they have video, make the browser hang. Only difference between the two server setups is the one office has local access over the LAN to the ldap server, and the other office with flash problems accesses the ldap server over an MPLS VPN. I think when I last tried to report this I was told ldap couldn't have any thing to do with this, which leaves SunRay software? I'm in the office with flash sunray problems. In this same office I have 7 Ultra 20 machines that don't use LDAP for authentication and obviously don't have any SunRay software installed and they can run the latest flash_player_10_solaris_r32_18_x86 with no problems. The affected systems are running Sun Ray Server Software Version 4.0 and Solaris 10 8/07 s10x_u4wos_12b X86. I would rebuild the servers with SRSS 4.1 and Solaris 10 5/09 s10x_u7wos_08 X86 but I've rebuilt my servers twice with previous latest versions of Solaris and SRSS now. Neither of those rebuilds made the problem go away. When I last rebuilt my servers I tested Flash before installing SRSS and LDAP auth and Flash worked fine. So in my mind it's gotta be SRSS or LDAP or both in tandem. I'm no software engineer though :) --- Aaron ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
