Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
Aaron Wilson schrieb: Yeah I'm slowly starting to figure that out :) Title of the wiki led me to download the Server version... SRSS 4.1 10/08 on Ubuntu 8.10 Server (i386 and amd64) probably should be SRSS 4.1 10/08 on Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop (i386 and amd64) No that's not correct. At the time I wrote that HOWTO on the wiki we used the server variant of Ubuntu 8.10. However, of course this wiki assumes you have GNOME already installed or are going to install gnome afterwards. Here, we have upgraded our servers to 9.04 now and are not having any problems with SRSS 4.1 installed. Everything is still working flawlessly after the upgrade. regards, jens -- Jens Langner Ph: +49-351-2602757 Forschungszentrum Dresden-Rossendorf e.V. Institute of Radiopharmacy - PET Center j.lang...@fzd.de Germany http://www.fzd.de/ ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
Ok I just installed Synaptic on 8.10 which gave me a couple more gnome goodies. It now allows me to type so I can log in. However it's pretty much identical behavior as 9.04 now. I can type and move the mouse though. On 9.04 it's a full black screen, but on 8.10 it's a brown screen and the top left corner is a black terminal session. I think 9.04 changed the default background color from brown to black Aaron Wilson wrote: I think something is missing? I followed the instructions and got 9.04 up and running but gdm kept failing on log in. Did a clean install and did the following sudo apt-get install libldap-2.4-2 libmotif3 module-assistant tk8.4 tomcat5.5 sun-java6-jre \ ldap-utils dhcp3-server nscd gawk iputils-ping pdksh unzip alien libgdbm3 \ libx11-6 libfreetype6 libsasl2-2 libxt6 zlib1g gdm devscripts xkb-data-legacy \ xfonts-base atftpd xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-cyrillic wget ed That get's me a gdm greeter screen but when I attempt to login the screen goes completely black. I can see the mouse cursor but can't move it and at the top left hand corner it shows aa...@srssubuntu: as though i'm in a full screen terminal session. Though it's a really small font that I can tell means x is sort of working correctly. I can't type either. If I do the same thing for Ubuntu 8.10 server and go to the same step I get a gdm greeter screen on which i can see the mouse cursor, but I can not type or move the mouse. Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 Desktop releases both work beautifully on this same hardware setup. Man I feel like a noob right now :) Been using Ubuntu since the 5.x series but I've never messed with Server and what it takes to get gdm up and running on it. Aaron Tobias Oetiker wrote: Hi Aaron, Today Aaron Wilson wrote: Trying to follow the wiki instructions for Ubuntu 8.10 since it appears others have gotten it to work including the author of the wiki Right of the bat though I run into problem with the apt-get command when xkb-data-legacy can't be found in the repos. Package xkb-data-legacy is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package xkb-data-legacy has no installation candidate it seems that this is not required ... things worked fine which whatever kbd data gets installed by jaunty ... cheers tobi I even edited my apt sources and uncommented the repos that were commented out in case that deb is in one of those repos. Maybe I'll have to do an install of 8.10 server and get it configured and do an apt dist-upgrade? I also checked launchpad in case someone had setup a ppa for that but I didn't see any thing. Oh well I guess that's what I get for trying this so soon on an unsupported release :) Aaron ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:13:01 -0700 Aaron Wilson aa...@ernieball.com wrote: as though i'm in a full screen terminal session. Though it's a really small font that I can tell means x is sort of working correctly. I can't type either. But you could log in, so the keyboard worked in gdm? I think that gdm started for some reason the failsafe session (one xterminal, no window manager) instead of a Gnome or KDE session. There is a sessions button at the login prompt where you can select the session type. Can you select another session? Is somethin interesting in ypur .xsession-errors file? -- Meik PS: could you please stop sending HTML only mail to this list? -- Meik Hellmund Mathematisches Institut, Uni Leipzig e-mail: meik.hellm...@math.uni-leipzig.de http://www.math.uni-leipzig.de/~hellmund ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
Maybe I didn't have gnome or any desktop manager installed? Like I said I never use Server just Desktop. The way I read the wiki is: sudo apt-get install libldap-2.4-2 libmotif3 module-assistant tk8.4 tomcat5.5 sun-java6-jre ldap-utils dhcp3-server nscd gawk iputils-ping pdksh unzip alien libgdbm3 libx11-6 libfreetype6 libsasl2-2 libxt6 zlib1g gdm devscripts xkb-data-legacy xfonts-base atftpd xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-cyrillic wget ed will install everything you need for SRSS and a gnome desktop on server. Perhaps that is not the case. I ended up doing an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and I can now log in to gnome. Now to go through the rest of the wiki and get srss reinstalled and see if I can log in from a sunray. Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. Meik Hellmund wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:13:01 -0700 Aaron Wilson aa...@ernieball.com wrote: as though i'm in a full screen terminal session. Though it's a really small font that I can tell means x is sort of working correctly. I can't type either. But you could log in, so the keyboard worked in gdm? I think that gdm started for some reason the failsafe session (one xterminal, no window manager) instead of a Gnome or KDE session. There is a sessions button at the login prompt where you can select the session type. Can you select another session? Is somethin interesting in ypur .xsession-errors file? -- Meik PS: could you please stop sending HTML only mail to this list? ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
I believe that the Wiki assumes that you are using the desktop version of Ubuntu 9.04 which includes the gnome packages automatically rather than the server version which does not. Brad On May 4, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Aaron Wilson wrote: Maybe I didn't have gnome or any desktop manager installed? Like I said I never use Server just Desktop. The way I read the wiki is: sudo apt-get install libldap-2.4-2 libmotif3 module-assistant tk8.4 tomcat5.5 sun-java6-jre ldap-utils dhcp3-server nscd gawk iputils- ping pdksh unzip alien libgdbm3 libx11-6 libfreetype6 libsasl2-2 libxt6 zlib1g gdm devscripts xkb-data-legacy xfonts-base atftpd xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-cyrillic wget ed will install everything you need for SRSS and a gnome desktop on server. Perhaps that is not the case. I ended up doing an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and I can now log in to gnome. Now to go through the rest of the wiki and get srss reinstalled and see if I can log in from a sunray. Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e- mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. Meik Hellmund wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:13:01 -0700 Aaron Wilson aa...@ernieball.com wrote: as though i'm in a full screen terminal session. Though it's a really small font that I can tell means x is sort of working correctly. I can't type either. But you could log in, so the keyboard worked in gdm? I think that gdm started for some reason the failsafe session (one xterminal, no window manager) instead of a Gnome or KDE session. There is a sessions button at the login prompt where you can select the session type. Can you select another session? Is somethin interesting in ypur .xsession-errors file? -- Meik PS: could you please stop sending HTML only mail to this list? ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users Brad Lackey Desktop Virtualization Technology Lead US Software Practice (720) 548-3339 BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 N:Lackey;Brad;;; FN:Brad Lackey ORG:Sun Microsystems; TITLE:US-SW Desktop Virtualization Technology Lead EMAIL;type=INTERNET;type=WORK;type=pref:brad.lac...@sun.com TEL;type=WORK;type=pref:720-548-3339 TEL;type=CELL:303-875-8616 TEL;type=WORK;type=FAX:(720) 548-3339 item1.ADR;type=WORK;type=pref:;;13320 Racquet Ct.;Poway;CA;92064;United States of America item1.X-ABADR:us CATEGORIES:Personal X-ABUID:57E6612B-F276-4934-9C7A-CC683249EDB1\:ABPerson END:VCARD ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
Yeah I'm slowly starting to figure that out :) Title of the wiki led me to download the Server version... SRSS 4.1 10/08 on Ubuntu 8.10 Server (i386 and amd64) probably should be SRSS 4.1 10/08 on Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop (i386 and amd64) Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. Brad Lackey - US-SW Desktop Virtualization Technology Lead wrote: I believe that the Wiki assumes that you are using the desktop version of Ubuntu 9.04 which includes the gnome packages automatically rather than the server version which does not. Brad On May 4, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Aaron Wilson wrote: Maybe I didn't have gnome or any desktop manager installed? Like I said I never use Server just Desktop. The way I read the wiki is: sudo apt-get install libldap-2.4-2 libmotif3 module-assistant tk8.4 tomcat5.5 sun-java6-jre ldap-utils dhcp3-server nscd gawk iputils-ping pdksh unzip alien libgdbm3 libx11-6 libfreetype6 libsasl2-2 libxt6 zlib1g gdm devscripts xkb-data-legacy xfonts-base atftpd xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-cyrillic wget ed will install everything you need for SRSS and a gnome desktop on server. Perhaps that is not the case. I ended up doing an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and I can now log in to gnome. Now to go through the rest of the wiki and get srss reinstalled and see if I can log in from a sunray. Aaron Wilson Ernie Ball, Inc. I.T. Department aa...@ernieball.com (805)544-7726 NOTICE: This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy the original and all copies of the original message. Meik Hellmund wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:13:01 -0700 Aaron Wilson aa...@ernieball.com wrote: as though i'm in a full screen terminal session. Though it's a really small font that I can tell means x is sort of working correctly. I can't type either. But you could log in, so the keyboard worked in gdm? I think that gdm started for some reason the failsafe session (one xterminal, no window manager) instead of a Gnome or KDE session. There is a sessions button at the login prompt where you can select the session type. Can you select another session? Is somethin interesting in ypur .xsession-errors file? -- Meik PS: could you please stop sending HTML only mail to this list? ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users Brad Lackey Desktop Virtualization Technology Lead US Software Practice (720) 548-3339 ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
Maybe I should of read the readme more carefully. comment out all pam entries referring to pam_sunray_hotdesk.so as Hotdesking seems to be currently broken So I take it hot desking doesn't work yet... schucks. Hot desking is a must have in my book. Aaron Aaron Wilson wrote: Trying to follow the wiki instructions for Ubuntu 8.10 since it appears others have gotten it to work including the author of the wiki Right of the bat though I run into problem with the apt-get command when xkb-data-legacy can't be found in the repos. Package xkb-data-legacy is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package xkb-data-legacy has no installation candidate I even edited my apt sources and uncommented the repos that were commented out in case that deb is in one of those repos. Maybe I'll have to do an install of 8.10 server and get it configured and do an apt dist-upgrade? I also checked launchpad in case someone had setup a ppa for that but I didn't see any thing. Oh well I guess that's what I get for trying this so soon on an unsupported release :) Aaron ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 9.04 and xkb-data-legacy
On Fri, 01 May 2009 08:17:54 -0700 Aaron Wilson aa...@ernieball.com wrote: Trying to follow the wiki instructions for Ubuntu 8.10 since it appears others have gotten it to work including the author of the wiki Right of the bat though I run into problem with the apt-get command when xkb-data-legacy can't be found in the repos. IMHO, SRSS 4.1 should work with xkb-data. Earlier SRSS versions needed xkb-data-legacy. Anyway, you need it only if you enable the X keyboard extensions. Oh well I guess that's what I get for trying this so soon on an unsupported release :) And I am afraid this won't get better. I really hoped that we would see something like an open source SRSS Express or OpenSRSS for OpenSolaris and newer Linux distros -- besides the commercial SRSS+SRWC versions for Solaris10/RHEL. Take the cash from those who need to provide a Windows desktop (and have to pay for Windows anyway); provide open source for those who still try to deliver Unix (Gnome/KDE) desktops. would have been a good motto. But this didn't happen and it won't happen now. It needs a bold management decision and nobody in Sun's management will dare to make such a decision now. Anyway, SRSS is in an partially open state: - there are a lot of shell scripts in SRSS and Sun tolerates that we patch them and distribute the patches - the Linux kernel modules are under the GPL - there is no nagging licence management in SRSS All this should not be taken for granted. I share the concerns Sean Clarke expressed on this list some weeks ago. Anyway, I heartily wish all the best to the Sun people on this list. You do a great job! I hope you (and the Sunrays) will stay! -- Meik -- Meik Hellmund Mathematisches Institut, Uni Leipzig e-mail: meik.hellm...@math.uni-leipzig.de http://www.math.uni-leipzig.de/~hellmund ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
