subject:"Re\: \[SM\] Corrupted OS 9.1"

Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1, update.

2006-01-08 Thread Bernie Benz

I did find an alternative method of booting from a CD with CD driver
conflicts when one can't access the Start Up control panel to change the HD,
and short of having to open the computer and disconnect the power to the HD
having the corrupt OS.  A bootable CD will boot with a restart in spite of
driver conflicts when holding down Command-Option-Shift-C, after which one
can select an alternative start up HD.

Thanks again,

Bernie

  



Thanks Paul,

I had done exactly as you suggested to establish the back up drive (#2) as
the start up drive and get the computer up and running.  I verified the HD
(#1) containing the Corrupted OS 9.1 using HDT's Disk First Aid which showed
no problem with the drive.  So, apparently the corruption is in the OS on
that drive.

I could copy the contents of #1 HD to the currently unused #3 as a current
back up of the good data on #1, before playing with its corrupted OS.  Can I
just overwrite, or delete and replace the full OS easily on that drive?

Thanks,

Bernie

  

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> Subject: Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1
> 
> Since you are now booted from another HD, go th the Control Panel,
> Startup Drive and select the drive you are now using. then shut off the
> computer, plug the corrupted drive back in and restart the computer. You
> should now be able to run Disk First Aid or Disk Warrior on the
> corrupted drive, as it is not your start up drive. You can always do a
> Clean instal of OS9.1 to the corrupted drive(not over the corrupted
> one), then DRAG any needed bits from the corrupted OS to the new one.Paul C
> 

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Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

2006-01-03 Thread Paul A. Corsa

If you have already made a back up data copy, why not go all the way and 
just reformat the drive with the corrupted OS? It is something that 
should be done every so many years anyway. Then instal a fresh copy of 
OS9.1  Ther "simple" answer to your Q is yes. Paul C


Tony Michaels wrote:

Or, you could run the installer form the OS 9 install Cd and let it
fill in the broken or missing bits and pieces.

Cheers,
Antonio

On 1/2/06, Bernie Benz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks Paul,

I had done exactly as you suggested to establish the back up drive (#2) as
the start up drive and get the computer up and running.  I verified the HD
(#1) containing the Corrupted OS 9.1 using HDT's Disk First Aid which showed
no problem with the drive.  So, apparently the corruption is in the OS on
that drive.

I could copy the contents of #1 HD to the currently unused #3 as a current
back up of the good data on #1, before playing with its corrupted OS.  Can I
just overwrite, or delete and replace the full OS easily on that drive?

Thanks,

Bernie





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Subject: SuperMacs Digest #2397

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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:03:38 -0500
From: "Paul A. Corsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

Since you are now booted from another HD, go th the Control Panel,
Startup Drive and select the drive you are now using. then shut off the
computer, plug the corrupted drive back in and restart the computer. You
should now be able to run Disk First Aid or Disk Warrior on the
corrupted drive, as it is not your start up drive. You can always do a
Clean instal of OS9.1 to the corrupted drive(not over the corrupted
one), then DRAG any needed bits from the corrupted OS to the new one.Paul C



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Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

2006-01-02 Thread Tony Michaels

Or, you could run the installer form the OS 9 install Cd and let it
fill in the broken or missing bits and pieces.

Cheers,
Antonio

On 1/2/06, Bernie Benz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Paul,
>
> I had done exactly as you suggested to establish the back up drive (#2) as
> the start up drive and get the computer up and running.  I verified the HD
> (#1) containing the Corrupted OS 9.1 using HDT's Disk First Aid which showed
> no problem with the drive.  So, apparently the corruption is in the OS on
> that drive.
>
> I could copy the contents of #1 HD to the currently unused #3 as a current
> back up of the good data on #1, before playing with its corrupted OS.  Can I
> just overwrite, or delete and replace the full OS easily on that drive?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
> > To: "SuperMacs List" 
> > Subject: SuperMacs Digest #2397
> >
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:03:38 -0500
> > From: "Paul A. Corsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1
> >
> > Since you are now booted from another HD, go th the Control Panel,
> > Startup Drive and select the drive you are now using. then shut off the
> > computer, plug the corrupted drive back in and restart the computer. You
> > should now be able to run Disk First Aid or Disk Warrior on the
> > corrupted drive, as it is not your start up drive. You can always do a
> > Clean instal of OS9.1 to the corrupted drive(not over the corrupted
> > one), then DRAG any needed bits from the corrupted OS to the new one.Paul C
> >
>
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Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

2006-01-02 Thread Bernie Benz

Thanks Paul,

I had done exactly as you suggested to establish the back up drive (#2) as
the start up drive and get the computer up and running.  I verified the HD
(#1) containing the Corrupted OS 9.1 using HDT's Disk First Aid which showed
no problem with the drive.  So, apparently the corruption is in the OS on
that drive.

I could copy the contents of #1 HD to the currently unused #3 as a current
back up of the good data on #1, before playing with its corrupted OS.  Can I
just overwrite, or delete and replace the full OS easily on that drive?

Thanks,

Bernie

  

> To: "SuperMacs List" 
> Subject: SuperMacs Digest #2397
> 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:03:38 -0500
> From: "Paul A. Corsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1
> 
> Since you are now booted from another HD, go th the Control Panel,
> Startup Drive and select the drive you are now using. then shut off the
> computer, plug the corrupted drive back in and restart the computer. You
> should now be able to run Disk First Aid or Disk Warrior on the
> corrupted drive, as it is not your start up drive. You can always do a
> Clean instal of OS9.1 to the corrupted drive(not over the corrupted
> one), then DRAG any needed bits from the corrupted OS to the new one.Paul C
> 

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Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

2006-01-02 Thread Paul A. Corsa

Since you are now booted from another HD, go th the Control Panel, 
Startup Drive and select the drive you are now using. then shut off the 
computer, plug the corrupted drive back in and restart the computer. You 
should now be able to run Disk First Aid or Disk Warrior on the 
corrupted drive, as it is not your start up drive. You can always do a 
Clean instal of OS9.1 to the corrupted drive(not over the corrupted 
one), then DRAG any needed bits from the corrupted OS to the new one.Paul C


Bob Robeson wrote:

Hi Bernie,

I can email you a small system start up folder that you can copy to a floppy
disk and then start your machine with that.  It has the hacked CD extension
on it and a set-startup control panel. The folder is exactly 1.3mb and will
just fit onto a floppy.

Or, you might try going to the "set startup disk" control panel on the drive
you are starting with now and select the OS 9 start-up install disk that you
put in your CD drive.  When you re-start it should use that system disk to
boot.

I think your problem is most likely very solvable.  Send me an email with
your email or snail mail address and I'll get a small start up system to
you, if you want it.

Good luck,
Bob 

  





My Q is how best to correct/reinstall the OS on the primary drive without
destroying its contents?  Can I just reinstall the OS over the corrupted OS,
or how else?




Bernie








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Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

2006-01-02 Thread Bob Robeson

Hi Bernie,

I can email you a small system start up folder that you can copy to a floppy
disk and then start your machine with that.  It has the hacked CD extension
on it and a set-startup control panel. The folder is exactly 1.3mb and will
just fit onto a floppy.

Or, you might try going to the "set startup disk" control panel on the drive
you are starting with now and select the OS 9 start-up install disk that you
put in your CD drive.  When you re-start it should use that system disk to
boot.

I think your problem is most likely very solvable.  Send me an email with
your email or snail mail address and I'll get a small start up system to
you, if you want it.

Good luck,
Bob 

  


> 
> My Q is how best to correct/reinstall the OS on the primary drive without
> destroying its contents?  Can I just reinstall the OS over the corrupted OS,
> or how else?

> Bernie


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Re: [SM] Corrupted OS 9.1

2006-01-02 Thread Charles Davis


Hi Bernie;
Not absolutely certain, but ---

Swap the IDs on the hard disks, and you SHOULD then be able to boot off 
of the 'backup' disk, with both HDs available to the system. This 
should allow you to repair the boot problem on the original HD.


Chuck Davis


On Monday, January 2, 2006, at 12:53  PM, Bernie Benz wrote:


The patient:
S900 w/ Powerlogix 350 G3 running OS 9.1 @ 389MHz, 600 MB ram, 3 2GB 
SCSI

internal hard drives, 2 Seagate Barrcuda 4XLs and the original.

Apparently a momentary power outage corrupted the OS on the start up 
drive
preventing start up.  Error message: Finder no start, couldn't 
initialize
system library >>Object Support Lib<< Boot from CD.  Couldn't boot 
from OS
9.1 CD because of conflict between CD ROM Tool Kit and Apple CD ROM 
drivers,

and couldn't access Ext Mgr to turn off the Apple driver.

Luckily, I had used the 2nd Seagate HD as a back up of the Seagate 
primary

drive at very infrequent intervals, so I finely unplugged the power
connector to the primary drive and the computer found the startup 
folder on
the backup drive and booted!  What a relief, I can now talk to you 
experts!


My Q is how best to correct/reinstall the OS on the primary drive 
without
destroying its contents?  Can I just reinstall the OS over the 
corrupted OS,

or how else?

List wisdom will be greatly appreciated.

Bernie

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