[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
Michael Schierl schrieb: Hehe. That 42/42/42 (do you know Douglas Adam's "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy"?) is just a code for "bad things happend" as any other combination of at least twice 42. In that case it means that an insert returned a DNF message which is invalid according to the spec and thus treated as a RNF. (RFC1122 Robustness principle). Toad told me that he had fixed that but most likely he hasn't... Ok. I also get quite some of these: java.io.IOException: Premature end of stream at fiw.fcp.FCPMessage.readMessage(FCPMessage.java:34) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:263) Hmm. Why does fred close his connections prematurely? It's not because you are restarting fred? No, I'm not restarting fred. Frost and fuqid also don't show errors like this. set the "default priority" in advanced settings so that the mapfile is inserted "first". This should speed your insert up somehow. Then you can disable to "ignore local datastore". This will make your insert much faster, but much less reliable as well. I don't know what FUQID is doing, but if it does similar things, I understand that insert is faster. I'll give it try on the next insert. Greets mihi Greets someone ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I get many of these (using FIW 0.08): > > #11 02 ***RouteNF *removed* (Chunk 6) [42/42/42] > > they can't be right as I only have 50 nodes in my routing table and a max > connections number of 100. Hehe. That 42/42/42 (do you know Douglas Adam's "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy"?) is just a code for "bad things happend" as any other combination of at least twice 42. In that case it means that an insert returned a DNF message which is invalid according to the spec and thus treated as a RNF. (RFC1122 Robustness principle). Toad told me that he had fixed that but most likely he hasn't... > I also get quite some of these: > > java.io.IOException: Premature end of stream > at fiw.fcp.FCPMessage.readMessage(FCPMessage.java:34) > at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:263) Hmm. Why does fred close his connections prematurely? It's not because you are restarting fred? > It also complains very often that it can't fetch an inserted chunk, while I > can fetch it without a problem through fproxy. This leads to continous insert > retries whitout FIW inserting the mapfile. set the "default priority" in advanced settings so that the mapfile is inserted "first". This should speed your insert up somehow. Then you can disable to "ignore local datastore". This will make your insert much faster, but much less reliable as well. I don't know what FUQID is doing, but if it does similar things, I understand that insert is faster. Greets mihi ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet
Nicholas Sturm wrote: Please provide reference to a good glossary. I tried it (in a sandbox Linux account, which is absoltely the minimum precaution anyone should take if running code downloaded from an untrusted anonymous source) and it seems to work pretty nicely. Is sandbox just Linux term or does it have broader application? A "sandbox" is a area of limited functionality where one can control a programs behavior. Think of it more like a "jail". Java applets (web applets, not Freenet) run a in sandbox. This way, if the program is malicious (or badly written), it can't do any damage outside the "sandbox" (in theory, anyway). If a Java applet tries to do something not allowed by the security policy (write a file, open a network connection, change the security policy, etc), Java will raise an exception. Note the ActiveX controls do NOT run in a sandbox. For Linux, there was a project, Subterfugue, which could create a "sandbox" for a program, but its not currently maintained. There is also User-mode Linux (UML), which lets you run Linux in Linux - everything run the the UML environment is "trapped" and can't do any damage outside its environment. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet
Please provide reference to a good glossary. > > I tried it (in a sandbox Linux account, which is absoltely the minimum > precaution anyone should take if running code downloaded from an > untrusted anonymous source) and it seems to work pretty nicely. Is sandbox just Linux term or does it have broader application? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
Michael Schierl schrieb: Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sites. Maybe because of the still very slow insert performance of fiw, which still takes 36 hours to successfully insert a 4 MB freesite (fuqid inserts much faster). Any ideas why? I'd like to make FIW fast too ;) I get many of these (using FIW 0.08): #11 02 ***RouteNF *removed* (Chunk 6) [42/42/42] they can't be right as I only have 50 nodes in my routing table and a max connections number of 100. I also get quite some of these: java.io.IOException: Premature end of stream at fiw.fcp.FCPMessage.readMessage(FCPMessage.java:34) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:263) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:218) at fiw.core.jobs.InsertJob.run(InsertJob.java:231) at fiw.core.jobs.Job.run0(Job.java:131) at fiw.core.jobs.PooledThreadProducer$PooledThread.run(PooledThreadProducer.java:97) It also complains very often that it can't fetch an inserted chunk, while I can fetch it without a problem through fproxy. This leads to continous insert retries whitout FIW inserting the mapfile. mihi Greets someone ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > sites. Maybe because of the still very slow insert performance of fiw, which > still takes 36 hours to successfully insert a 4 MB freesite (fuqid inserts much > faster). Any ideas why? I'd like to make FIW fast too ;) mihi ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Toad wrote: | Unfortunately crawling freenet via HTTP will have the main effect of | DoSing your freenet node, because every web download takes up a thread, | and we therefore limit parallel HTTP downloads to 24-36. Ideally you'd | want a real FCP spider; there must be one out there somewhere. You can download something which claims to do this from: http://127.0.0.1:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/spider/5// I tried it (in a sandbox Linux account, which is absoltely the minimum precaution anyone should take if running code downloaded from an untrusted anonymous source) and it seems to work pretty nicely. If you download it, and it inserts your credit card details into Freenet and emails your mother with pictures of hard core porn, all before it deletes your hard disk - don't blame me, you run this entirely at your own risk. Ian. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAUKjVQtgxRWSmsqwRAmeHAJ95xrhiPkwzrzo0co60shDbOZzd+ACdFTdy dONXnYpzaG5MtlQzrj/IN3g= =a7AK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Build 5073 : RouteNotFound Fetching (running) freenet.exe ???
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 06:36:09PM +0200, notmyrealemail wrote: > > Hello, > > Build 5073 seems to connect very poorly and the log is filled with > this kind of messages : > > 16:25:39 RouteNotFound Fetching (running) > freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],Zt29QUMcl6ozbq4MqdSOhQ as > freenet.exe for DistributionServlet - > 16:25:59 RouteNotFound Fetching (running) > freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mDUG92va0G8-DOMEVStbPg as > NodeConfig.exe for DistributionServlet- > 16:25:59 RouteNotFound Fetching (running) > freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],plfo5EJ1SVj~vMHYw2PiSQ as > freenet-webinstall.exe for DistributionServlet- > 16:25:59 RouteNotFound Fetching (running) > freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],Zt29QUMcl6ozbq4MqdSOhQ as > freenet.exe for DistributionServlet - > 16:26:39 RouteNotFound Fetching (running) > freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],plfo5EJ1SVj~vMHYw2PiSQ as > freenet-webinstall.exe for DistributionServlet- > 16:26:39 RouteNotFound Fetching (running) > freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mDUG92va0G8-DOMEVStbPg as > NodeConfig.exe for DistributionServlet- > 16:27:08 Fetched file freenet.exe > > Why is my Linux node fetching .exe programs? And why the connectivity > is so poor? I have only one peer node??? So it can give them to windows users. We download all the components, regardless of operating system, so that we can generate the distribution ZIP (see the Spread Freenet link on the web interface). -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Just Getting Started
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:04:29AM +, Toad wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:37:34PM -0800, Galen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I think I have a relatively decent idea of how freenet works. And if I > > had a nice broadband connection I could dedicate to freenet, I'd be > > delighted and I don't think I'd have problems. But for now, my results > > with freenet have been, to say the least, lackluster. I am currently on > > dialup internet and using transient mode. Any suggestions on how to > > make things actually work? I want to just explore and load a few pieces > > of content... > > > > I'm running Mac OS X and don't seem to have problems loading up freenet > > and whatnot, it's just actually getting it to load content that's > > basically impossible. I'm more than reasonably terminal-comfortable. > > > > And yeah, I know I seriously need broadband. Qwest just brought DSL to > > my neighborhood and I'll probably sign up pretty soon here, but for > > now, dialup is where I'm at. Really, if people are trying to use > > freenet to get sensitive information (the stuff governments want to > > censor), it's very possible they'll be on dialup also, so I don't think > > there's quite zero use for dialup, you know... > > It's a matter of what is possible. If dialup is what you have, unless > the network is working VERY well, your node will not work well. Having said that, some of the major freesites were inserted for years from a modem... > > > > -Galen -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT
I'd guess it was a problem with the OS, or the JVM. You can however work around it by setting ipAddress= and ipDetectorInterval=0 in the config file (remove any preceding %'s or #'s first), and of course restarting the node. On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 07:49:20PM -0800, Christopher Brian Jack wrote: > > How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively: > > Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89, > ERROR): SocketException t$ > java.net.SocketException: Bad address > at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method) > at > java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204) > at > freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95) > at > freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82) > at > freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56) > at > freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49) > at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168) > at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55) > at > freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210) > at > freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:157) > at > freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.java) > at > freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67) > at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256) > at > freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214) > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:37:33PM -0500, vinyl1 wrote: > I have a similar machine with Win2K and dialup, and can't get anywhere. > > I'm not surprised that I can't retrieve much freesite content, although > surprisingly I can get a fair number of Frost messages. > > What baffled me is that I was unable to insert a small (1.9 meg) file with > FUQID. After configuring so that FUQID connects to my client port > correctly, it goes ahead and opens ten threads, but all the insert attempts > with them fail and they keep retrying and failing again. I used to be able > to insert easily, and I have retrieved 30 meg files running overnight. This is odd... maybe a timeout in FUQID? > > I'll try with some new seed nodes. The obvious thing to do is get a more > modern machine and broadband. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aman Pervaiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:50 AM > Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville > > > > Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now. > > I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine > > of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions. > > I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB > > files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in > a couple > > of hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better > than > > stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, > Ian and > > the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :) > > Aryan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: > > Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville > > > > > > > > Toad writes: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote: > > >> My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the > last > > >> stable builds have been really good already .. > > > > > > They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run > > > unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly... > > > > With the the latest stable builds, my "java hanging" problems have gone > away > > (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due > > to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been > > worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's > > not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever > > been. > > > > You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't > > need support. :) > > > > For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well: > > - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era); > > - Re-seed with the stable seeds; > > - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router; > > - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding; > > - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in > > start-freenet.sh); > > - Increase store size to 4 GB. > > > > Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my > store > > size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network. > > ___ > > Support mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Support mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Periodically restarting the node...
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 02:49:46PM +0100, Krist van Besien wrote: > Hello, > > > As on my system my node reliably goes haywire after about 6 to eight > hours I need to restart it periodically. I'm just wondering what the > effect is on how well my node is integrated in the network. What happens exactly? That sounds like a bug. What build are you running? > > I read on the list that a node needs to be online for a while until it > will have gathered enough info about neighbouring nodes to server > content with any rate of success. > > So what will teh effect be if I restart my node every six hours? > > Krist -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Periodically restarting the node...
Hello, As on my system my node reliably goes haywire after about 6 to eight hours I need to restart it periodically. I'm just wondering what the effect is on how well my node is integrated in the network. I read on the list that a node needs to be online for a while until it will have gathered enough info about neighbouring nodes to server content with any rate of success. So what will teh effect be if I restart my node every six hours? Krist -- Krist van Besien Bern, Switzerland ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 03:18:10PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive > > criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's "first impression" can be > > enhanced. Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout. > > freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, a > redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are more > prominently displayed. There's a nice flamewar :). > There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the > user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in > Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and > getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good. Hmm. Good idea. However, I'm not sure that you CAN run a freenet ndoe with any reasonable performance if it's limited to 3GB/mo as is common in oz. Technically, the solution is the average bandwidth limiter. However this is not known to work well (it is pretty much untested since NIO), mostly because no developers have that sort of connection. Perhaps we should put some effort in, but I'm not sure that it's proportionate as users with such connections won't get much out of or contribute much to Freenet. Yes, it might be useful for the occasional content author, so it IS worth thinking about; it's just that they'll be put off by the dire performance implied. > > More "advertising". Atm Diebold are shutting down sites hosting their memos > using the DMCA. Educate the world to the fact that Freenet can be used for the > "public good" - the memos are already available in Freenet. The NY Times article did a lot of that for us :). > > Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want > a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE > Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain > links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that > Freedom of Speach is the central issue. Somebody want to maintain a freesite that links to controversial material but doesn't link to illegal material? A lot of it is a matter of judgement and personal ethics - Thought Crime links to Mein Kampf and an article on bestiality as well as a lot of overtly political stuff. Anyway, YoYo's Controversy section is a good start. > > I just wrote a comment to an article in Sweden's largest IT-newssite where I > brought this up (regarding the Swedish military wanting to tap regular users' > Internet-connections). This is where we need to push Freenet. > > (http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200310/31/20031031135522_SOS/20031031135522_SOS. > dbp.asp for the ones who can read Swedish) -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet
Unfortunately crawling freenet via HTTP will have the main effect of DoSing your freenet node, because every web download takes up a thread, and we therefore limit parallel HTTP downloads to 24-36. Ideally you'd want a real FCP spider; there must be one out there somewhere. On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 05:58:54PM +1300, David McNab wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 17:11, tripolar wrote: > > Hello all > > > > I need a program to crawl links in freenet to get sites in cache before > > I need them. I get frustrated with the speed of freenet and dead links. > > I have used freenet on windows & linux and just installed freenet last > > night on this winbox. I spent hours clicking on links just trying to > > pull them in. > > Anything I can do other than manually clicking on all links? > > A winbox, eh? > > Well, there are dozens of freeware and shareware (crack available) > windoze programs to recursively download websites. Sites like > www.tucows.com, www.nonags.com, www.shareware.com etc list them by the > score. > > You might need to try a few until you hit on one which doesn't molest > the '//' in freenet URIs. > > Once you choose a site downloader program, you'd need to point it at: > - http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/TFE// > - http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/YoYo// > or, point it at whatever site(s) you need, observing the above URL > syntax. Be sure to disable the timeout (or extend it to an hour or so), > because these crawler progs are used to web performance. > > One last thing - these crawler progs won't be able to tell one freesite > from another, since it will perceive all freesites as part of the same > 'site' at http://localhost:/. So take care to set a pattern match > requirement (unless you want the crawler to suck the whole freenet). > > Cheers > David > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] A few basic questions
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:03:33PM -0800, Eugene Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I hope someone can answer these questions for me. > > I've got build 6281 installed and running. This link: Where did you get build 6281 from? > http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/version_histogram.txt > says "nodes: 49". Does it mean that: > - there are 49 freenet users total online at this moment, > - or there are only 49 of them my PC knows about, This option. There are 49 nodes that your node knows about. No one node will normally know about the whole of the rest of the network. > - or something entirely different? > > What is the expected number of users and amount of shared data > in Freenet > at any given moment? Stable branch: around 10,000 nodes, I don't know what amount of data, probably in the gigabytes range, in terms of actually reachable content; might be more. We can't accurately count either users or content because of freenet's anonymous nature. > > Is it normal that Freenet does not even attempt to saturate my > upstream bandwidth > like all other p2p networks do ( bandwidth usage stays around > 500 bytes/second, > the channel is 128 kbps )? No. > > How long should it take for the client to learn about the > network, at least to the extent > where it manages to open all links from > http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodeinfo/ ? Not all the links are inserted every day, so some of them will remain unreachable. However I'd expect the node to saturate your uplink, or at least, to saturate the set bandwidth limit which default to 12kB/sec, within 24 hours or so; performance should have improved significantly in that time. One other thing: if you are behind a NAT or firewall, you will have to jump through some hoops (not only forwarding the listenport, but also telling the node what it's external IP address is in the config). > > Thanks > > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > --===1360612386==-- -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: How to (REALLY) get on the NEW unstable branch
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 11:26:18PM -0500, Keith Botelho wrote: > you could get the latest build which is 6281. Uhmm, no, the latest build is 60,003 :) > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Stone Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:51 PM > Subject: [freenet-support] Re: How to (REALLY) get on the NEW unstable branch > > > > Nicholas Sturm wrote: > > > Do I have this correct now? > > > > > > If one is a window user and has been using 5028; found things weren't > > > working normally and made a reinstall; that one really has little > > > likelihood of getting things to work again unless one is a geek? > > no > > > > > > > > Should I just remove all of the freenet system I have and wait for someone > > > to send us a message that we can now get started again without reading tons > > > of stuff we don't understand and trying to guess what goes between the few > > > snip-its that we suspect we may understand? > > no > > > > > > > > Could someone that is knowledgeable send an email via support to all the > > > lost souls when the system > > > finally has a form that a novice could use if they first went to > > > freenetproject.org and tried following a simple non-user cookbook recipe? > > > > > > Please say check an appropriate choice: > > > > > > _ Yes > > check > > > > > > > > _ No, we don't have time nor need anyone running a node that has not > > > been invited to the inter sanctum. > > > > So anyway, i dunno... Is there something you didn't understand about my > > post? I thought I very nicely gave all the info you needed to get up > > and running on the new system. > > > > If you want to remain with stable (your choice, really), then it should > > "work". The only geeky thing you *might* have to do is "re-seed". If > > you've recently (within the past 4 days?) installed freenet, > > re-installed freenet, or downloaded seednodes.ref, then there's a good > > chance you have a bad seednodes.ref, and you need to re-download it from > > freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref. > > > > That's not too hard is it? Let me know if you have a specific question. > > > > -Martin > > > > > > ___ > > Support mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] How to (REALLY) get on the NEW unstable branch
If you run behind a firewall, you are expected to be a power user. If you run on dialup, you are expected not to get very far. Apart from that, it ought to work, at least sometimes, even on the default stable network, according to recent support reports. On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 09:10:24PM -0500, Nicholas Sturm wrote: > Do I have this correct now? > > If one is a window user and has been using 5028; found things weren't > working normally and made a reinstall; that one really has little > likelihood of getting things to work again unless one is a geek? > > Should I just remove all of the freenet system I have and wait for someone > to send us a message that we can now get started again without reading tons > of stuff we don't understand and trying to guess what goes between the few > snip-its that we suspect we may understand? > > Could someone that is knowledgeable send an email via support to all the > lost souls when the system > finally has a form that a novice could use if they first went to > freenetproject.org and tried following a simple non-user cookbook recipe? > > Please say check an appropriate choice: > > _ Yes > > _ No, we don't have time nor need anyone running a node that has not > been invited to the inter sanctum. > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > --===161392==-- -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 12:59:46AM -0500, Nicholas Sturm wrote: > > Would you possibly agree with this, "There is no known way to meaningfully > evaluate the performance of freenet?" No. There are several ways to evaluate it. My favourite is "push/pull tests". Insert a file on one node, and fetch it from another unrelated node. How long does it take? How many retries? Etc. That is one performance measure. Another one is "does streaming work?". Nobody has been crazy enough to try recently to the best of my knowledge :). > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Conrad Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: vinyl1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 3/9/2004 7:28:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings > > > > > > On 09-Mar-2004 vinyl1 wrote: > > > OK, I have the latest build (5074), the latest seed nodes, the latest > > > everything I could find as of today, 3/8/2004 > > > > > > On the Web interface, I can't load The Freedom Engine, Dolphin's Free > Index, > > > and Content of Evil. I can load the Freenet Help Index and YoYo. This > is > > > possibly due to unreachable, out-of-date nodes. The stuff that does > load > > > seems to work better than before. > > > > Basing your evaluation of your node's performance on what's appearing > and/or > > reachable via the main web interface is not a good idea. Most of the > gateway > > sites have been horribly unreliable for quite some time now (with the > exception > > of DFI). I really don't know why this is the case; I've had no trouble > at all > > inserting DFI daily. To ensure that the next DBR update is inserted in > time, I > > always start the update process (an automated, scheduled job) at least 1 > 1/2 > > hours prior to the rollover time (12:00 am GMT). I'm wondering if other > > gateway site maintainers are not allowing enough time in advance for their > > inserts to complete on time. > > > > DFI's insert got a little screwed up yesterday, due to the fact that I > was in > > the process of running a portupgrade of my JDK under FreeBSD. Probably > due to > > the additional load on the system from running the build, FIW somehow > ended up > > inserting DFI one day further into the future than it was supposed to. I > didn't > > discover this and finally get the problem corrected until about 8:30 pm > CST > > (2:30 am GMT). > > > > I saw someone else here basing assumptions about their node's behavior on > the > > fact that they couldn't reach YoYo! Unfortunately, Yoyo! is one of the > more > > unreliable sites lately (no idea why). > > > > Anyway, the gist of the idea is this: don't assume that non-functioning > gateway > > sites mean your node is not working. > > > > -- > > Conrad Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - "In Unix veritas" > > > > ___ > > Support mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Duplicated references
In the current unstable seednodes there are 313 references, but only 162 unique nodes. Of the 162, a lot are artifacts leaved by updating or changing port. Can this be a problem, considering the current hight reseeding frequency ? FWIW. Marco -- + il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
14MB...sorry about he typo :) -Original Message- From: Toad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:50:08PM +0500, Aman Pervaiz wrote: > Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now. > I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine > of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions. > I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB > files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a couple Uhm, do you mean 14MB? > of hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than > stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian and > the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :) > Aryan > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: > Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville > > > > Toad writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote: > >> My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last > >> stable builds have been really good already .. > > > > They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run > > unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly... > > With the the latest stable builds, my "java hanging" problems have gone away > (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due > to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been > worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's > not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever > been. > > You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't > need support. :) > > For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well: >- Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era); >- Re-seed with the stable seeds; >- Forward the correct port on my Linksys router; >- Use cjb.net for IP forwarding; >- Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in > start-freenet.sh); >- Increase store size to 4 GB. > > Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store > size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network. > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. <>___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
