RE: [freenet-support] HELP!

2005-07-09 Thread Nicholas Sturm



Assuming you are on Windows version...
You probably still have freenet running.  Check for an icon in the tray associated with freenet.  Click it and try turning it off.  If that does not work try ctrl-alt-del and end any task that seems to be a part of freenet.  Then try deleting the freenet directory.  That usually solves the orphan problem.  In the future try avoiding the running of experimental wear on a production machine (i.e., you principle machine you need to have in working condition).
 

 

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From: SAMARA BLUM 
To: support@freenetproject.org
Sent: 7/9/2005 6:52:15 PM 
Subject: [freenet-support] HELP!

I am trying to uninstall Freenet.  For some reason it is taking up 39gb and my computer is really slow now.  I  have tried to delete the file, but it says that it is being used by other programs.  I cannot figure out how to delete this file.  Please help me!  
 
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet does not work with non-Administrators users on Win32

2005-07-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:15:30AM +, Ted wrote:
> I've installed freenet using freenet-webinstall.exe on a Windows XP 
> Professional
> SP2 computer using an account in the local Administrators group. The install 
> is
> in the default Program Files location. I need to run freenet from an account 
> in
> the Users group. By default, data and configuration files are written to the
> install directory, but Users do not have write permissions for the Program 
> Files
> tree, nor should they. It is exceedingly poor development practice to write 
> data
> or configuration there - please change this!!!

Eh? If we can install at all, then we can write to it. We have to put
the executables there. And given that Freenet is intended to be a
daemon, it makes zero sense to have one per user.
> 
> I then used NodeConfig to repoint storeFile, tempDir, logFile, and
> diagnosticsPath to more appropriate locations where Users can have write
> permissions. Unfortunately, I get the following errors in the log in spite of
> these changes:

You could try messing with routingDir? Really the idea of installing
Freenet on Windows such that the code is in Program Files and the data
is elsewhere is pretty surreal. If you're going to those lengths on
windows, then (you're a fool, but) just create a user for it and put the
files in a dir owned by that user.
> 
> If I then run freenet with administrative rights, I find that freenet is still
> writing a file called 'node' to the executables install directory. Seriously
> folks, this is simply wrong!

No, it isn't. It's a daemon.

> Despite what those idiots in Redmond think, daily
> computer use should always be with an account having only Users rights, not
> Administrators. One simply does not allow user writes to a directory 
> containing
> executables! Obviously, freenet testing is not being performed in the correct
> environment.

Your whole assumption here is that of a separation of data (per user)
from executable (global). This assumes that it is installed in one place
and then each user has their own instance with its own data. This is
insane for a daemon such as Freenet. However it is possible to do what
you want, by moving routingDir.
> 
> Now, how do I repoint the remaining writes from the install directory to
> locations of my choosing?
> 
> For the time being, I will be using freenet in transient manner and since I 
> use
> a Users account virtually all of the time, it is most inconvenient to have to
> log in as an administrator just to make freenet work. There is no reason why
> freenet should require administrator rights, so even when I run it 24/7, it
> needs to work without them.

Why do you want to access it directly like that? Just install it as
Administrator (or any other user, in its own directory - you need
freenet.jar, freenet-ext.jar, seednodes.ref and that's about it), and
access it through the web interface. It will seriously suck if you can't
give it reasonable uptime anyway.
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet-webinstall.exe proxy settings used incorrectly

2005-07-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:54:05PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After 2 days of trying to install freenet on my WinXP Pro SP2 box, I need
> to get the following off my chest:
> 
> 1. I dislike web installers like freenet-webinstall.exe with a passion. It
>is nonsensical for me to have to repeatedly download the same files
>over and over again just to install the application on multiple local
>computers. Please consider a standalone complete Windows installer.

You don't have to. You can just download the files once and put them in
the same place as the EXE, and it will use them automatically.
> 
> 2. I want to know the version number of what I am about to install
>*before* I install it. The freenet web installer gets me "the latest"
>and that tells me nothing. It doesn't respond to command line options
>as far as I could tell, so built in help is unavailable.

New builds are released on a regular basis (or they were)... I'm not
sure what you want.
> 
> 3. There is no documents I could find that detail what the web installer
>will download and from where. If there were, perhaps I could have
>made things work manually.

Or you could strings it? :)
> 
> 4. Okay, this is the *big* one. The reason the installer would not work
>for me was because it was using web proxy information obtained from
>the following registry key:
> 
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet 
> Settings
> 
>In my case, the proxy settings in that key pointed at a non-existent
>proxy server on the localhost. When I originally installed WinXP on
>this machine, that proxy server did exist. However, at a later date
>I used the global policy editor to assign overriding proxy settings
>for all users on the system. These global settings pointed at a new
>proxy server. The result is that the settings in the aforementioned
>registry key are supposed to be no longer used or relevant. From my
>experience, all applications that depend on the Internet Settings for
>their proxy information, adhere to that rule... until now. I do not
>like applications that use Window's Internet Settings because this
>means I have no individual control over the various applications that
>use it. But, if you're going to use those settings, *please* use them
>correctly! I had to use Registry Monitor from the Sysinternals folks
>to figure out where freenet-webinstall.exe was getting its information
>(after spending hours figuring out that it was using bogus proxy
>settings in the first place).

Hmm. Wierd. Probably an issue related to the free installer generator we
are using... volunteers to maintain the winmonster are always welcome.
:) We're going to try to move as much as possible into the node on the
next version...
> 
> 5. Where is the source code for freenet-webinstall.exe? As far as I could
>tell, it's not in the source code tarball. Perhaps it's in CVS, but I
>didn't find it (possibly because of my unfamilarity with CVS). Maybe
>it's not open source?

Contrib module in CVS; or there's a tarball in snapshots.
> 
> 6. With no easily archived complete installers, how do I roll back to a
>specific earlier version?

There are unix tarfiles which have the last 2 weeks worth. We have to
mandate a certain version number from time to time though, so really old
versions (e.g. the version in debian) won't work.
> 
> 7. Although there are no direct pointers to it, I was able to look at the
>contents of the freenet distribution server here:
> 
>http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/
> 
>I can see various loose files there, some of which are downloaded by
>the web installer. What versions? Don't know. I know they are not all
>the same as identically named files in freenet-latest.tgz, but why
>not is a mystery to me. There is no manifest for the directory and
>the MD5SUM file is out of date and missing almost all of the expected
>entries. At the time I did my downloads, seednodes.ref differed from
>the identically named file in the Linux download.

We even have an MD5SUM file? Curious...

seednodes.ref is generated daily or so. It's intended to change
frequently to prevent a small subset of nodes serving all new users..
> 
> So, I am about to try Freenet itself. If I wasn't so keen to try it, I
> would've given up long before I came to a solution. From what information
> is available on the web for Freenet, it is an intriguing solution to a
> variety of problems. But, the available information is already lacking
> in terms of making things easy for new users. The weak installation tools
> and information only make things worse.
> 
> Newbie
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[freenet-support] HELP!

2005-07-09 Thread SAMARA BLUM



I am trying to uninstall Freenet.  For some reason it is taking up 
39gb and my computer is really slow now.  I  have tried to delete the 
file, but it says that it is being used by other programs.  I cannot figure 
out how to delete this file.  Please help me!  
 
samara
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[freenet-support] Bug

2005-07-09 Thread Donald



 Hello!
 
I believe there may be a problem. I keep getting the 
following error message:java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\DOCUME~1\Donald\LOCALS~1\Temp\freenet\tbf_7b3a67 (The system cannot find the path specified)

java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\DOCUME~1\Donald\LOCALS~1\Temp\freenet\tbf_7b3a67 (The system cannot find the path specified)
	at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
	at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
	at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
	at freenet.support.FileBucket$FileBucketOutputStream.(FileBucket.java:111)
	at freenet.support.TempFileBucket$HookedFileBucketOutputStream.(TempFileBucket.java:381)
	at freenet.support.TempFileBucket.newFileBucketOutputStream(TempFileBucket.java:298)
	at freenet.support.FileBucket.getOutputStream(FileBucket.java:82)
	at freenet.support.TempFileBucket.getRealOutputStream(TempFileBucket.java:103)
	at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.(SpyOutputStream.java:49)
	at freenet.support.TempFileBucket.getOutputStream(TempFileBucket.java:133)
	at freenet.client.SegmentOutputStream.nextBucket(SegmentOutputStream.java:280)
	at freenet.client.SegmentOutputStream.write(SegmentOutputStream.java:192)
	at java.io.OutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
	at freenet.crypt.DecipherOutputStream.write(DecipherOutputStream.java:40)
	at freenet.client.InternalClient$InternalFeedbackToken$InternalDataChunkOutputStream.sendChunk(InternalClient.java:279)
	at freenet.support.io.DataChunkOutputStream.write(DataChunkOutputStream.java:45)
	at freenet.support.io.CBStripOutputStream.write(CBStripOutputStream.java:41)
	at freenet.OutputStreamTrailerWriter.writeTrailing(OutputStreamTrailerWriterjava:19)
	at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.startWrite(SendData.java:313)
	at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.received(SendData.java:272)
	at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177)
	at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61)
	at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335)
	at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288)
	at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207)
	at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99)
	at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325)
	at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285)
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[freenet-support] freenet does not work with non-Administrators users on Win32

2005-07-09 Thread Ted
I've installed freenet using freenet-webinstall.exe on a Windows XP Professional
SP2 computer using an account in the local Administrators group. The install is
in the default Program Files location. I need to run freenet from an account in
the Users group. By default, data and configuration files are written to the
install directory, but Users do not have write permissions for the Program Files
tree, nor should they. It is exceedingly poor development practice to write data
or configuration there - please change this!!!

I then used NodeConfig to repoint storeFile, tempDir, logFile, and
diagnosticsPath to more appropriate locations where Users can have write
permissions. Unfortunately, I get the following errors in the log in spite of
these changes:


java.io.FileNotFoundException: node-temp (Access is denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at freenet.node.Main.writeNodeFile(Main.java:3075)
at freenet.node.Main.spawnNode(Main.java:1034)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:908)
28-Jun-2005 10:08:49 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Caught
  java.io.FileNotFoundException: node-temp (Access is denied)
  running or seeding node
java.io.FileNotFoundException: node-temp (Access is denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at freenet.node.Main.writeNodeFile(Main.java:3075)
at freenet.node.Main.spawnNode(Main.java:1034)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:908)
Exception in thread "main" java.io.FileNotFoundException: node-temp
  (Access is denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at freenet.node.Main.writeNodeFile(Main.java:3075)
at freenet.node.Main.spawnNode(Main.java:1034)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:908)
28-Jun-2005 10:08:49 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Unexpected Exception:
java.io.FileNotFoundException
java.io.FileNotFoundException: node-temp (Access is denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(Unknown Source)
at freenet.node.Main.writeNodeFile(Main.java:3075)
at freenet.node.Main.spawnNode(Main.java:1034)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:908)


If I then run freenet with administrative rights, I find that freenet is still
writing a file called 'node' to the executables install directory. Seriously
folks, this is simply wrong! Despite what those idiots in Redmond think, daily
computer use should always be with an account having only Users rights, not
Administrators. One simply does not allow user writes to a directory containing
executables! Obviously, freenet testing is not being performed in the correct
environment.

Now, how do I repoint the remaining writes from the install directory to
locations of my choosing?

For the time being, I will be using freenet in transient manner and since I use
a Users account virtually all of the time, it is most inconvenient to have to
log in as an administrator just to make freenet work. There is no reason why
freenet should require administrator rights, so even when I run it 24/7, it
needs to work without them.

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[freenet-support] freenet-webinstall.exe proxy settings used incorrectly

2005-07-09 Thread billy-the-chimp
After 2 days of trying to install freenet on my WinXP Pro SP2 box, I need
to get the following off my chest:

1. I dislike web installers like freenet-webinstall.exe with a passion. It
   is nonsensical for me to have to repeatedly download the same files
   over and over again just to install the application on multiple local
   computers. Please consider a standalone complete Windows installer.

2. I want to know the version number of what I am about to install
   *before* I install it. The freenet web installer gets me "the latest"
   and that tells me nothing. It doesn't respond to command line options
   as far as I could tell, so built in help is unavailable.

3. There is no documents I could find that detail what the web installer
   will download and from where. If there were, perhaps I could have
   made things work manually.

4. Okay, this is the *big* one. The reason the installer would not work
   for me was because it was using web proxy information obtained from
   the following registry key:

   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings

   In my case, the proxy settings in that key pointed at a non-existent
   proxy server on the localhost. When I originally installed WinXP on
   this machine, that proxy server did exist. However, at a later date
   I used the global policy editor to assign overriding proxy settings
   for all users on the system. These global settings pointed at a new
   proxy server. The result is that the settings in the aforementioned
   registry key are supposed to be no longer used or relevant. From my
   experience, all applications that depend on the Internet Settings for
   their proxy information, adhere to that rule... until now. I do not
   like applications that use Window's Internet Settings because this
   means I have no individual control over the various applications that
   use it. But, if you're going to use those settings, *please* use them
   correctly! I had to use Registry Monitor from the Sysinternals folks
   to figure out where freenet-webinstall.exe was getting its information
   (after spending hours figuring out that it was using bogus proxy
   settings in the first place).

5. Where is the source code for freenet-webinstall.exe? As far as I could
   tell, it's not in the source code tarball. Perhaps it's in CVS, but I
   didn't find it (possibly because of my unfamilarity with CVS). Maybe
   it's not open source?

6. With no easily archived complete installers, how do I roll back to a
   specific earlier version?

7. Although there are no direct pointers to it, I was able to look at the
   contents of the freenet distribution server here:

   http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/

   I can see various loose files there, some of which are downloaded by
   the web installer. What versions? Don't know. I know they are not all
   the same as identically named files in freenet-latest.tgz, but why
   not is a mystery to me. There is no manifest for the directory and
   the MD5SUM file is out of date and missing almost all of the expected
   entries. At the time I did my downloads, seednodes.ref differed from
   the identically named file in the Linux download.

So, I am about to try Freenet itself. If I wasn't so keen to try it, I
would've given up long before I came to a solution. From what information
is available on the web for Freenet, it is an intriguing solution to a
variety of problems. But, the available information is already lacking
in terms of making things easy for new users. The weak installation tools
and information only make things worse.

Newbie


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[freenet-support] voip support

2005-07-09 Thread Diaa Elsayed



Greetings,
 
Does freenet support voip, like 
skype?
 
 
Regards
Diaa
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