Re: [freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Dennis Nezic 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:22:37 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dennis Nezic
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:13:49 -0500, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> > > > I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> > > > I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .
> >
> > Just to be clear, the node isn't running on your local machine ...
> > you just scanned (nmap-ped) for it from your local machine, right?
> >
> > (By the way, you want to ssh-tunnel into the remote machine that's
> > running it, which will make it accessible to your local machine from
> > "localhost"... (man ssh)... ssh -L:localhost:
> > me@remotemachine)
> 
> any idea what to set the web config "ip address to bind to" field
> to?  It is currently at 127.0.0.1 but on my lan it will be on the
> machine at 192.168.1.2.

You really probably want to leave it with that default localhost-only
binding, and ssh tunnel (ie. encrypted connection) into it from remote
places. Otherwise your communication with your node will be visible to
anyone on your lan, and possibly beyond. (And others will possibly be
able to control your node if they figure out what IP address is allowed
to access it.)
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[freenet-support] [SOLVED] Re: help!

2012-02-12 Thread Kevin Banjo 
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dennis Nezic
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:13:49 -0500, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> > > I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> > > I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .
>
> Just to be clear, the node isn't running on your local machine ... you
> just scanned (nmap-ped) for it from your local machine, right?
>
> (By the way, you want to ssh-tunnel into the remote machine that's
> running it, which will make it accessible to your local machine from
> "localhost"... (man ssh)... ssh -L:localhost: me@remotemachine)
>


Oh, I got it.  Duh, should have read the top of the freenet.ini file.  it
gets overwritten when freenet shuts down so I had to stop it, make the
changes, THEN restart.


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Re: [freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Kevin Banjo 
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dennis Nezic
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:13:49 -0500, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> > > I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> > > I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .
>
> Just to be clear, the node isn't running on your local machine ... you
> just scanned (nmap-ped) for it from your local machine, right?
>
> (By the way, you want to ssh-tunnel into the remote machine that's
> running it, which will make it accessible to your local machine from
> "localhost"... (man ssh)... ssh -L:localhost: me@remotemachine)
>

any idea what to set the web config "ip address to bind to" field to?  It
is currently at 127.0.0.1 but on my lan it will be on the machine at
192.168.1.2.


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Re: [freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Kevin Banjo 
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Dennis Nezic
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> > I'm on the latest version of sabayon linux.
> >
> > I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> >
> > I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .
> >
> > i try and connect to it locally and get "unknown URI: localhost:"
> >
> > I see nothing under /var/freenet/logs.
> >
> > i check the status of the daemon and its still running.
> >
> > I see nothing under /var/log/messages.
> >
> > Any clues how to debug this?
>
> I think by default, freenet/fproxy only allows access from the
> localhost (ie. 127.0.0.1) interface, so you have to go into the
> advanced options and explicitly allow your machine/subnet access.
>
>
okay, I've done that a couple times now and my settings don't take, and I
still can't see fproxy from the other machines in my lan.  I tried setting
both the machines that can access and that have full access to my lan,
192.168.1.1/24 and it apparently didn't like the / because it gave me an
error.  Something about java number format (sorry I don't have the exact
error anymore).  So I set it directly to the host I wanted access from:
x.x.x.101, and I apply the changes and there is no error, but still no
access.  I look in the /var/freenet/freenet.ini file and those changes are
not there.  I change that file by hand and restart freenet and the
changes disappear as soon as freenet starts.  There is a wrapper file that
starts it with a config file in /etc/ however I don't see any variables
there that look similar to anything I'm changing.

Also, the localhost addr in those fields ends with ,0:http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/grouchomar137218.html>
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Re: [freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Kevin Banjo 
okay, that was it.  I was trying to access fproxy via w3m and it needed
http:// in front.  Funny thing was, that, yes, no service shows up at 
when I nmap localhost, but it still works.

An invisible service?

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dennis Nezic
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:13:49 -0500, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> > > I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> > > I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .
>
> Just to be clear, the node isn't running on your local machine ... you
> just scanned (nmap-ped) for it from your local machine, right?
>
> (By the way, you want to ssh-tunnel into the remote machine that's
> running it, which will make it accessible to your local machine from
> "localhost"... (man ssh)... ssh -L:localhost: me@remotemachine)
>



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Re: [freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Dennis Nezic 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:13:49 -0500, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> > I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> > I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .

Just to be clear, the node isn't running on your local machine ... you
just scanned (nmap-ped) for it from your local machine, right?

(By the way, you want to ssh-tunnel into the remote machine that's
running it, which will make it accessible to your local machine from
"localhost"... (man ssh)... ssh -L:localhost: me@remotemachine)
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Re: [freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Dennis Nezic 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:56:01 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> I'm on the latest version of sabayon linux.
> 
> I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.
> 
> I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .
> 
> i try and connect to it locally and get "unknown URI: localhost:"
> 
> I see nothing under /var/freenet/logs.
> 
> i check the status of the daemon and its still running.
> 
> I see nothing under /var/log/messages.
> 
> Any clues how to debug this?

I think by default, freenet/fproxy only allows access from the
localhost (ie. 127.0.0.1) interface, so you have to go into the
advanced options and explicitly allow your machine/subnet access.

Also, some browsers are dumb and assume anything not on port 80 is not
http, unless you explicitly type the full url as "http://localhost:";
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Re: [freenet-support] command line tools

2012-02-12 Thread Dennis Nezic 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:55:51 -0800, Kevin Banjo wrote:
> is there a command line tool to upload a file to freenet and return
> its CSK?

One DIY possibility is Freenet's telnet interface with an "expect"
script. (man expect).

Another, probably, is via Freenet's FCP interface, possibly via netcat
(man nc) or something like that?
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[freenet-support] command line tools

2012-02-12 Thread Kevin Banjo 
is there a command line tool to upload a file to freenet and return its CSK?

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[freenet-support] help!

2012-02-12 Thread Kevin Banjo 
I'm on the latest version of sabayon linux.

I've installed and started freenet on one machine on my lan.

I nmap it on the local machine and I see a service at .

i try and connect to it locally and get "unknown URI: localhost:"

I see nothing under /var/freenet/logs.

i check the status of the daemon and its still running.

I see nothing under /var/log/messages.

Any clues how to debug this?

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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Evan Daniel 
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Yfrwlf  wrote:
> On 02/12/2012 08:19 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> So is there a ZI package yet?
>
>
> That sounds nice, you could make the ZI package/feed depend on JDK so there
> were no longer any unfulfilled dependencies on the user's end regardless of
> platform, since it would be automatically "installed".  Instead of the
> existing installer, you could have some of those things done with a
> web-based first run setup wizard.  Upgrades could be handled by ZI updates
> instead of custom updaters, too.
>
> I don't know if redoing all that is worth it in exchange for certain perks
> though, since Freenet has already implemented so many of its own systems to
> make up for not having those systems exist across platforms.  Perhaps ZI is
> too late to the party. :)

It's not too late. Personally, I don't care at all about ZI, but if
end users find it useful, I'm for it. Please let me know when it's
available :)

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Dennis Nezic 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:26:34 -0600, Yfrwlf wrote:
> On 02/12/2012 08:19 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> > So is there a ZI package yet? 
> 
> That sounds nice, you could make the ZI package/feed depend on JDK so 
> there were no longer any unfulfilled dependencies on the user's end 
> regardless of platform, since it would be automatically "installed".  
> Instead of the existing installer, you could have some of those
> things done with a web-based first run setup wizard.  Upgrades could
> be handled by ZI updates instead of custom updaters, too.
> 
> I don't know if redoing all that is worth it in exchange for certain 
> perks though, since Freenet has already implemented so many of its
> own systems to make up for not having those systems exist across
> platforms. Perhaps ZI is too late to the party. :)

It's not too late. The more packages, the more availability, the
better. I prefer using Gentoo and it's ebuilds, so ZI is mostly
irrelevant for me -- but I'm sure many people still need it.
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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Yfrwlf 

On 02/12/2012 08:19 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
So is there a ZI package yet? 


That sounds nice, you could make the ZI package/feed depend on JDK so 
there were no longer any unfulfilled dependencies on the user's end 
regardless of platform, since it would be automatically "installed".  
Instead of the existing installer, you could have some of those things 
done with a web-based first run setup wizard.  Upgrades could be handled 
by ZI updates instead of custom updaters, too.


I don't know if redoing all that is worth it in exchange for certain 
perks though, since Freenet has already implemented so many of its own 
systems to make up for not having those systems exist across platforms.  
Perhaps ZI is too late to the party. :)

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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Evan Daniel 
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Yfrwlf  wrote:
>
>>> The problem is the existing common formats like DEB and RPM are too
>>> stupid and not set up right.  They lack the flexibility to be able to
>>> do things like installing multiple versions of the same library or
>>> the same program side-by-side, one of the causes of the syndrome of
>>> "Thou shalt only install ONE version of Firefox!  If you want a newer
>>> one, upgrade your entire OS!", which is just ludicrous. The point is,
>>> all *sorts* of hell is caused because of the Linux packaging mess,
>>> and it effects both devs and users in harmful ways. You standardize
>>> on an intelligent, featureful system, and everybody wins.
>>
>> Gentoo allows that. Gentoo is also 100% completely customizable to fit
>> even the most esoteric tastes. It even supports pre-compiled binary
>> packages. Why aren't you using it, then?
>
>
> I only use systems which are cross-distro.  You keep calling ZI yet another
> package manager, and I keep telling you that it isn't because it works on
> *any distro*, but you can't seem to grasp that.  It's what makes ZI unique.
>  Of course I can't force everyone to use the same package manager, but that
> isn't needed with ZI because it works alongside existing ones.  Buy hey,
> perpetuate the existing fragmented confusing world of Linux packaging and
> wait until everyone starts using the same package manager if you want
> (something that will never happen since distros want exclusive repositories
> to leverage their distro with, even if it hurts the Linux community).

So is there a ZI package yet?

Evan Daniel
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[freenet-support] Failed to restore WoT identity created in FMS

2012-02-12 Thread Yfrwlf 
Hi, I'm having a problem with restoring an identity in the WoT plugin.  
I created it in FMS on the latest version 0.3.65 and it is announced and 
everything, yet I can't "restore" it in WoT no matter what format I put 
the URI/keys in.  I've tried with no trailing "/", including the "/", 
including "/WebOfTrust", and nothing works.  I am using OpenJDK 
1.6.0_23.  I get the following stack trace error when I try to do the 
restoration:


freenet.keys.FreenetURI.getEdition(FreenetURI.java:1162)
plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.restoreIdentity(WebOfTrust.java:2105)
plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.OwnIdentitiesPage.make(OwnIdentitiesPage.java:56)
plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.WebInterfaceToadlet.handleMethodPOST(WebInterfaceToadlet.java:69)
plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.WebInterface$OwnIdentitiesWebInterfaceToadlet.handleMethodPOST(WebInterface.java:118)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:616)
freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:550)
freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:990)
freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.realRun(PooledExecutor.java:233)
freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:130)

Is this a known issue?  Do I need to create the identity in WoT first, 
and then import it into FMS instead?  If so, why?  Is FMS using an 
outdated identity key system?


Thanks!
-Yfrwlf
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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Yfrwlf 



The problem is the existing common formats like DEB and RPM are too
stupid and not set up right.  They lack the flexibility to be able to
do things like installing multiple versions of the same library or
the same program side-by-side, one of the causes of the syndrome of
"Thou shalt only install ONE version of Firefox!  If you want a newer
one, upgrade your entire OS!", which is just ludicrous. The point is,
all *sorts* of hell is caused because of the Linux packaging mess,
and it effects both devs and users in harmful ways. You standardize
on an intelligent, featureful system, and everybody wins.

Gentoo allows that. Gentoo is also 100% completely customizable to fit
even the most esoteric tastes. It even supports pre-compiled binary
packages. Why aren't you using it, then?


I only use systems which are cross-distro.  You keep calling ZI yet 
another package manager, and I keep telling you that it isn't because it 
works on *any distro*, but you can't seem to grasp that.  It's what 
makes ZI unique.  Of course I can't force everyone to use the same 
package manager, but that isn't needed with ZI because it works 
alongside existing ones.  Buy hey, perpetuate the existing fragmented 
confusing world of Linux packaging and wait until everyone starts using 
the same package manager if you want (something that will never happen 
since distros want exclusive repositories to leverage their distro with, 
even if it hurts the Linux community).

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