[freenet-support] Just Getting Started
Hi, I think I have a relatively decent idea of how freenet works. And if I had a nice broadband connection I could dedicate to freenet, I'd be delighted and I don't think I'd have problems. But for now, my results with freenet have been, to say the least, lackluster. I am currently on dialup internet and using transient mode. Any suggestions on how to make things actually work? I want to just explore and load a few pieces of content... I'm running Mac OS X and don't seem to have problems loading up freenet and whatnot, it's just actually getting it to load content that's basically impossible. I'm more than reasonably terminal-comfortable. And yeah, I know I seriously need broadband. Qwest just brought DSL to my neighborhood and I'll probably sign up pretty soon here, but for now, dialup is where I'm at. Really, if people are trying to use freenet to get sensitive information (the stuff governments want to censor), it's very possible they'll be on dialup also, so I don't think there's quite zero use for dialup, you know... -Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] NAT & Freenet
Hi, One of the places where I would like to use freenet is behind NAT. I know all about port mapping, but this simply isn't available in this situation. What is the hope of running Freenet? I know virtually every other protocol has implemented support for NAT as part of (or before) becoming mainstream... if this doesn't exist in freenet as of now, it might be something important if freenet were to ever become widely used. -Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
Hi Freenet People, I'd like to hear about your experience with and uses for freenet. I'm interested in those that use freenet. How "usable" is it? What is your setup? What kind of performance do you get? What kinds of content do you get on it? How often do you use it? I ask this as one hopelessly trapped behind NAT (well, at least for a little while longer) and not really able to sample freenet properly. Thanks, Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
I am behind NAT, but was able to forward the port, and now have 650 meg in Before anyone comments further on this, I am behind NAT without port forwarding options for right now. Lets not even go down this road... Anyways, back to our regularly scheduled Freenet comments -Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
Hm, interesting. This is the kind of thing I'd like to hear from people. C'mon, if you guys can support freenet, can't you tell me about your real-life experiences with it? And yeah, I do know how to port map, but in my situation, I'm not allowed to port map anything (yeah, i have a strange internet arrangement - I don't control the NAT box). -Galen Currently I am running freenet on an old P2 linux box permanently. The memory is limited to 100mb, but as long as I do not use the fproxy interface too much I can run a freenet node for more then 2 days. (at least that was the case around one week ago.) The CPU usage is also ok, I am not experiencing any problems which could be caused from an overloaded CPU. The linux computer is behind a NAT router with port forwarding set and has a extremly limited upload bandwith (7kb/s) and a more moderatly set download bandwith (40kb/s right now thinking of limiting to 20kb/s) because this way I am able to use the internet for other things while running the freenet node the whole time. (the bandwith limits are set in the config of the node - higher set upload bandwith caused the whole internet access to be blocked sometimes - using DSL). Currently the node gets around 1500 request/hour and finishes around 4% (thats changing often, this is a "better" value) of them. The node has a datastore of 25GB, which is completly used. Data seems to last around 3 months in it(unaccessed), but that will depend on how much I download. If I download not so much data it will last longer. Currently I am having problems with RNFs despite more then 100 connections and a routing table of ~400 nodes (~300 node references), but data finding is not bad as soon as a request can be made. (The popular dbr sites can be fetched most of the time, only near the rollover time I have sometimes problems which seems logical.) To the usage: I am runing a second computer permanently for fuqid and frost, but I use only a small amount of threads for requests. (normally around 20 threads together) So as you see it is really possible to use freenet with DSL and NAT. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] NAT & Freenet
One of the places where I would like to use freenet is behind NAT. I know all about port mapping, but this simply isn't available in this situation. What is the hope of running Freenet? I know virtually every other protocol has implemented support for NAT as part of (or before) becoming mainstream... if this doesn't exist in freenet as of now, it might be something important if freenet were to ever become widely used. No, they haven't. Please try running a web server behind a NAT that you can't forward ports on. Or ssh. Or any number of other client/server protocols. I was thinking of P2P file transfer protocols. Bittorrent, gnutella, fasttrack, etc. Uploading doesn't always work really great, but downloading is quite decent. Bittorrent seems to have zero problems saturating upstream bandwidth on many torrents that are 100% behind NAT. I classified (mentally) freenet as a P2P, but it's more like a server-to-server for best performance. To answer your question, freenet stable build 5077, or recent freenet unstable builds (60077 is current), will work a lot better in such a situation than previous builds. However, the node will still not be a proper member of the network because it cannot receive incoming connections, and thus will not perform as well as it could. I don't think your anonymity is seriously jeopardized by being behind a NAT, but I'm not absolutely sure on that one. Implementing a means for sending a message through the network to tell a NATted node to open a connection to another node is something that we might implement, but probably not before 0.6. I've just downloaded the latest stable build of freenet and we'll see how it works. You'll be hearing from me again. -Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Freenet crashes DSL modem
Hi, I've got an interesting arrangement here. It appears that when I run freenet, it crashes the DSL/NAT (combo device) actiontec DSL modem. Yes, it totally freezes, no data in or out (no pings, dhcp, etc) until physically reset. The arrangement is somewhat unusual, but I can reliably crash the modem. Every single time. Here's how the network layout: Qwest DSL Modem Actiontec w/NAT connected to a Netgear wireless router's LAN side, which creates a wireless network. Then, near the boundary of reception, there's a D-Link access point in client mode that's connected to the netgear wireless network. The ethernet cable from the client mode AP connects to the WAN port on a d-link wireless router. I then connect a variety of computers to the d-link's wireless network. This provides two "virtual" network with the same internet connection, but different encryption options, coverage areas, etc - exactly my goal. Yes, this is very unusual (both the network and the behavior), and no, I don't want to spend much time trying to fix the problem, but if it's something that there's an easy fix to, I'm all for that, otherwise, it's just another entry for the quirky things list. -Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet crashes DSL modem
How interesting. I am not the owner of the modem, and it is not causing problems for the owners (except those that I've caused) so I don't think I can pursue this issue myself. But I have plans to be bringing in a fast Qwest DSL line myself and I'll will most definitely keep this in mind. Although this looks like a bit of a problem for my freenet ambitions, Qwest has competitive rates and an excellent TOS (unlike, *cough* Comcast... can you say unspecified bandwidth cap? no NAT allowed?) in my area and I think we can figure something out if I have this problem. DSL modems aren't very expensive... Thanks for the info. Sounds like anyone else using this Actiontec modem should keep their eyes peeled for this problem. -Galen On Apr 30, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Niklas Bergh wrote: You are not alone in this if would seem: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8777483~mode=flat Someone says: 'If you guys are still having problems with your Actiontec's. Call into the Qwest DSL repair center and have them "escalate it" to the Actiontec engineers. If that doesn't work, they will bring you a new GT 701 modem.' ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] messageSendTimeRequest
Out of curiosity, is the U.S. Department of Justice interested in freenet? When I see from "@usdoj.gov" in an email address, it really makes me wonder. Might the DOJ be interested in going after people for use of freenet or something? Considering the level of anonymity and such, I don't think anything would happen. But maybe just scoping things out? I could be completely wrong and perhaps someone at the DOJ is using freenet personally and using his government work email address for the mailing list, although I would tend to think that is somewhat irregular though who knows. Though I can think of more scary domains to be getting mail from... @cia.gov, @fbi.gov. Just an element of curiosity on my part. Any comments anyone? On May 28, 2004, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My node is almost constantly overloaded because messageSendTimeRequest exceeds successfulSendTimeCutoff by a significant amount. The messageSendTimeRequest likes to hang around 4000ms. Now I've observed that the messageSendTimeRequest seems to be tied the amount of data waiting to be transferred so I've tried to tweak the settings to reduce the amount of data that is going out of my node. Reducing the number of max connections, reducing the chance of cache, and other little things. But they don't seem to be able to bring it down. The only thing I can figure is that my node just looks too good to pass up (I have a really good upstream), and the other nodes just really like to request from my node and end up overloading me. So is there anything I can do to reduce the load? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
