Re: usb network card
http://www.etccomputers.co.nz/shop/main/product.asp?pid=622 at least the usb plug won't match -- the fr has a mini usb port. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i am i bit at loss with the current state of avaliable updates (server | glitches, 404, checksums instead of dates and kernel images/modules). | - what u-boot is recommended Tomorrow's U-Boot is recommended. Current U-Boot has 50% chance per boot of breaking USB device for the session (including in Linux). | - what kernel I'm guessing one from September 2008 or so... until then just keep using best we got which should normally be today's. | - how did the missing modules depencies working out and the 0b kernel | images The broken packages were fixed by Graeme. What has changed though is for ethernet over USB now you need a couple of packages recommended by Thomas B and to run depmod before you reboot into it: # opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether # depmod | is it safe to upgrade w/o spending half a day afterwards to get everything | up and running again? Probably no less safe than usual if you know the above. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiUWocACgkQOjLpvpq7dMq3nwCePazRqxtze1HpZvCbrI+BcB7x sGoAoIc49Zv4XKPFHauNRs7p3DDu93XY =9T2K -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
On Saturday, 2. August 2008 21:00:55 Andy Green wrote: The broken packages were fixed by Graeme. What has changed though is for ethernet over USB now you need a couple of packages recommended by Thomas B and to run depmod before you reboot into it: # opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether # depmod I did not follow the full discussion on the kernel list. Does this mean you are not able to connect via Ethernet over USB unless you install these packages ? Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
# opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether # depmod I did not follow the full discussion on the kernel list. Does this mean you are not able to connect via Ethernet over USB unless you install these packages ? apparently. at least that's what i understand and what triggered my questions. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | # opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether | # depmod | I did not follow the full discussion on the kernel list. Does this mean | you | are not able to connect via Ethernet over USB unless you install these | packages ? | | apparently. | at least that's what i understand and what triggered my questions. It is true. If you missed the boat on installing the packages before reboot into new kernel, you can shutdown, pop the SD Card, insert to host and put the packages on SD Card, reinsert and then reboot and install (and run depmod). Subsequently kernel updates will also pull in the necessary matching modules, so this is a one-off hassle. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiUYzUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpZXgCdFU8Wg0f9UIDMbRahnk5aRMhD WhMAnROibJY3ekQJmncxT74qs6LtFLkC =rkE4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
On Saturday, 2. August 2008 21:37:57 Andy Green wrote: If you missed the boat on installing the packages before reboot into new kernel, you can shutdown, pop the SD Card, insert to host and put the packages on SD Card, reinsert and then reboot and install (and run depmod). Subsequently kernel updates will also pull in the necessary matching modules, so this is a one-off hassle. That means we have no way of connecting to a running Neo via USB (if wifi does not work) ?? Pretty strange ... The kernel image and the rootfs image are seperate - we have to tell users: Install this kernel and that rootfs or your Ethernet over USB does not work ?! Wolfgang thinks about where to find more kernel module candidates: - battery driver - SD card driver - Glamo driver Marek PS: Obviously, Wolfgangs is an ironic hint ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Qtopia incoming call
Hi, I am using qtopia on my freerunner. Sometimes, there are two incoming calls from same number simultaneously and both cannot be answered And sometimes at dialing end, user get to hear that my phone is switched off Even after volume in profile set as maximum, sound is less audible...Can i increase the volume in any other ways Thanks Bijoy ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
so this isn't some switch I threw in the dark while snickering. curse my imagination, igor ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Phone not starting .....!!!!!
Hi, Phone not starting. .! Bijoy - Original Message - From: bijoy franco Sent: 02/08/08 08:36 pm To: support, Openmoko, community, openmoko Subject: Qtopia incoming call Hi, I am using qtopia on my freerunner. Sometimes, there are two incoming calls from same number simultaneously and both cannot be answered And sometimes at dialing end, user get to hear that my phone is switched off Even after volume in profile set as maximum, sound is less audible...Can i increase the volume in any other ways Thanks Bijoy ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Neo Freerunner hangs
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried manually flashing a new kernel and rootfs with dfu-utils? manybe try Qtopia or ASU and see if the problem persists I'v used the scaredycat images http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080507-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/uImage-2.6.24+git20080507-r0-om-gta02.bin It works with out any problem when I tried without a sim card. But with my BSNL Sim, it freezes with the message glamofb_update_lod_controller spin_lock_irqsave glamofb_update_lod_controller spin_unlock_irqrestore I also tried qtopia, it works perfectly. But no result with gps. regards, ~vimal -- Free Software, Free Society സ്വതന്ത്ര സോഫ്റ്റ്വെയര്, സ്വതന്ത്ര സമൂഹം http://fsfs.hipatia.net ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Isn't the last line supposed to be: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 and then try: ping 192.168.0.202 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:03 AM, sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following the instructions on the wiki, I did the following after connecting my Freerunner iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 However, I can't SSH in to the Freerunner. I can't even ping it (it says 'ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted' ) Please note that usb0 shows up when i try 'ifconfig'. I am using Ubuntu Hardy 64-bit edition. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Lynn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the last line supposed to be: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 and then try: ping 192.168.0.202 nope.. that line sets the IP for usb0.. i.e. the IP at the local end. 192.168.0.202 would be the ip of the Freerunner right? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
I am not sure what I did (though it seems like ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200followed by ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202) but it works now!! I can ssh in :D .. Ok.. now for some MASQUERADE-ing On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:42 PM, sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Lynn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the last line supposed to be: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 and then try: ping 192.168.0.202 nope.. that line sets the IP for usb0.. i.e. the IP at the local end. 192.168.0.202 would be the ip of the Freerunner right? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM, sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure what I did (though it seems like ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200followed by ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202) but it works now!! I can ssh in :D .. Ok.. now for some MASQUERADE-ing Stopped working. It's something to do with my iptables. Figuring it out. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Flushed '-t filter'. Added MASQUERADE-ing as per the wiki. It worked. Finally, my TangoGPS can download maps :P On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:50 PM, sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM, sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure what I did (though it seems like ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 followed by ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202) but it works now!! I can ssh in :D .. Ok.. now for some MASQUERADE-ing Stopped working. It's something to do with my iptables. Figuring it out. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Video in qtopia?
Out of sincere frustration I flashed the FR to qtopia. Very nice... Everything seems to work including importing ALL of my sim contacts. Thumbs up! Anyhoo, which music and video file types can be played and do I need to install anything like codecs? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SSH'ing into Qtopia on FR
I'm able to SSH via usb into my FR while it is running Qtopia, but it is limited access apparently. I'm notreally sure how to deal with it, but mainly I'm concerned with updating and transferring files. Advice guys? thx radtek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
On Saturday, 2. August 2008 22:24:19 Andy Green wrote: Packaging issues are out of my scope, or control. May be but we still should consider this, right ? If nobody decided to add REQUIRES to the kernel package for the previously monolithic Ethernet over USB modules, then we end up like this. We can have all available REQUIRED fields activated but that wont help if the user just upgrades the kernel via dfu-util ... I issued an RFC about it on the kernel list before it was done, so this isn't some switch I threw in the dark while snickering. Nobody assumed the opposite. Why does our packaging fragment the module binaries into a zillion individual packages anyway and allow this issue? Why are the modules, intimately tied to the monolithic kernel of the same version, not in the same package to guarantee consistency? We have the space and it will be a rare customer who micromanages his package set to the extent of adding and removing module packages. AFAIK we can't solve this by packaging (at the moment). The kernel and rootfs live in different partitions and thus can be updated independently. In general I like your idea but we have to look at what we have now. I think we both agree that our current packaging is inherently broken. I would prefer to wait with those changes until we can update the kernel and the rootfs at the same time. Marek PS: I never tried to SSH in a Mass Storage device. ;-) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SSH'ing into Qtopia on FR
e hanks wrote: I'm able to SSH via usb into my FR while it is running Qtopia, but it is limited access apparently. I'm notreally sure how to deal with it, but mainly I'm concerned with updating and transferring files. Advice guys? ssh should work out of the box with Qtopia. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Video in qtopia?
e hanks wrote: Out of sincere frustration I flashed the FR to qtopia. Very nice... Everything seems to work including importing ALL of my sim contacts. Thumbs up! Anyhoo, which music and video file types can be played and do I need to install anything like codecs? You will have to wait until I compile qtopia to use gstreamer. :) Currently Qtopia on the Neo uses an inhouse mediaengine called cruxus which has plugins for mp3 and ogg. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SSH'ing into Qtopia on FR
RadTek, Are you using windoz or linux desktop? I setup my windoz laptop simply by installing the .inf provided here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_and_Windows#USB_Ethernet_emulation once the interface has been created make static ip entry of 192.168.0.200without a default gateway. you should be able to connect to your FR using putty ssh or colinux VM. Then I opened up the interface that is accessing the WAN/internet/web and in the advanced section you will want to share your this internet interface with the new usb interface. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:53 AM, e hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm able to SSH via usb into my FR while it is running Qtopia, but it is limited access apparently. I'm notreally sure how to deal with it, but mainly I'm concerned with updating and transferring files. Advice guys? thx radtek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- David Garvey ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
On Sunday, 3. August 2008 04:33:11 Andy Green wrote: Liek so much else, that's just waiting on someone saying DO IT. What else is it waiting on precisely? Correct me if I'm wrong: Our booting process is a bit complicated - we have this dynamic table of bad blocks, some uboot partitions, a kernel partition and root fs partition. It would be nice to have _one_ image for (at least) the kernel and the rootfs. Your config change affects a vital part of the debug tools of the system because it is easy to break. Simply flash a new kernel (without knowing that the ethernet does not work anymore!) and big suprise ... In the long run it would be even handier to have only one partition for all the interesting stuff which affect the boot (I don't know to what extend that would be possible). Changing uboot options, getting a new uboot, changing images, etc would be much easier ... Really? Well, I guess you never tried mounting what we had before as a block device, echoing something into it as a tty, printing to it, as we can now either. Well, that is not exactly the same thing ... Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
The idea of only one partition is as old as this project. Back then the killing factor was the speed of U-Boot mounting the jffs2 partition and reading from it. something like an initrd is out of question? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Sunday, 3. August 2008 04:33:11 Andy Green wrote: | Liek so much else, that's just waiting on someone saying DO IT. What | else is it waiting on precisely? | | Correct me if I'm wrong: | Our booting process is a bit complicated - we have this dynamic table of bad | blocks, some uboot partitions, a kernel partition and root fs partition. Linux can blow through all this, nand_write is the magic ingredient. There is NOTHING stopping a single package for monolithic kernel and modules. | It would be nice to have _one_ image for (at least) the kernel and the rootfs. | Your config change affects a vital part of the debug tools of the system | because it is easy to break. Simply flash a new kernel (without knowing that | the ethernet does not work anymore!) and big suprise ... Yeah, but that is a packaging issue, not a config change issue. The kernel package could easily have gone out with a REQUIRES for the new module packages pulling them in automatically. I do not control that. | In the long run it would be even handier to have only one partition for all | the interesting stuff which affect the boot (I don't know to what extend that | would be possible). Changing uboot options, getting a new uboot, changing | images, etc would be much easier ... In the very long run this will happen. In the merely long run with U-Boot it ain't gonna happen. | Really? Well, I guess you never tried mounting what we had before as a | block device, echoing something into it as a tty, printing to it, as we | can now either. | | Well, that is not exactly the same thing ... Just saying you are not considering the whole picture. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiU0rUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp4DQCfV8OyOXRb5u2Kz05JAp65t1Na qzUAnjGF6Qtmyu6i9ZU53lLDuIk6278t =Lrms -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SSH'ing into Qtopia on FR
Thanks guys. I was already ssh'ing via my ubuntu terminal. Here's a brief sample of what I see for the qtopia fs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls Applications Documents Settings log packages [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# pwd /home/root [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cd /home [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home# ls root [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home# cd ./ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home# ls root [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home# cd root [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# pwd /home/root [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls Applications Documents Settings log packages [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /media card hdd net realroot cdmmc1 ram union [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /card ls: /card: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /media/card 000_0132.jpg 000_0133.jpg 000_0134.jpg 000_0135.jpg Ennio_Morricone_-_The_Ecstasy_of_Gold.mp3 Ennio_Morricone_-_The_Good_the_Bad_and_the_Ugly.mp3 Ennio_Morricone_-_The_Trio.mp3 Indian Violin.mp3 Metalocalypse 01 The Curse of Dethklok (ws) [Moonsong].avi qtopia_db.sqlite ring and bell.mp3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# pwd /home/root [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /usr bin gamesinclude lib libexec sbin sharesrc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /usr/games [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /usr/share X11curl exquisite locale pixmaps alsa dbus-1 file manscreen apmd dict fonts mime tabset applications diversity-nav gnupg misc udhcpc assassin enlightenment halninja usb.ids avahi etkimages openmoko xsessions base-passwdexposure info opkg zoneinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /usr/share/openmoko scenarios [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I guess I wasn't navigating very intuitively at first. But now everything is OK. I was able to scp a file onto the SD card and vim apparently works too. Got some more ??? but I'll ask in another thread. Thanks. radtek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: usb network card
2008/8/2 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.etccomputers.co.nz/shop/main/product.asp?pid=622 at least the usb plug won't match -- the fr has a mini usb port. i was planning on using the relevant cable to connect it to the neo, as with any usb gadget that the neo would host. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host or am i missing something? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: state of upgrades
How about sidestepping the issue and have standard rescue kernel thats monolithic? - could even be recommended practise to have it on the SD card ready to go (like a dual boot). Doesnt need to be the latest, but have minimal functionality to recover a system. BillK On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 23:14 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: The idea of only one partition is as old as this project. Back then the killing factor was the speed of U-Boot mounting the jffs2 partition and reading from it. -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SSH session
I was having a problem with not being able to re-connect to my FR after unplugging the usb. I'd have to reboot my lappy in order to ssh to the FR. I saw the fix listed on the usb networking page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking Since I use Ubuntu I changed the order of the code as instructed despite the comments that it doesn't work. It worked for me. However, I was checking out the suggested code for /etc/network/interfaces and it is different from what was posted several weeks ago. I had edited the original /etc/network/interfaces to this: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto - This has worked fine so far AFAIK. However, the current suggested code for /etc/network/interfaces is: - allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.192/26 post-up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT pre-down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.192/26 - What is the difference between 'auto usb0' and 'allow-hotplug usb0'? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
