Re: neo1973 does not power on.

2008-09-25 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday, 25 de September de 2008 15:44:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
> That sounds very likely what I did. I will check the fstab entry on the sd
> card, but I'm almost certain it was mtdblock0.
>
> On the minus side this means I will definitely need a debug board, but at
> least it is highly likely to not be a waste of money and effort.

You can also ask  on the list if is someone with a debug-board near you.

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Re: enlightenment crashes

2008-09-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:34:25 +1200 "Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> and i just go it to print a different error message
> "Enlightenment SIGABRT'd"
> otherwise identical to the previous one with the SEGV'd

perhaps doing what it suggests might help? :) note - chances are whatever you
have  is likely behind the curve and possibly is segving as a result of
inconsistent packages (eg svnrev of illume != svnrev of efl/e-wm). most likely.
so first check illume and evas, e-wm, edje, ecore, eet, embro, efreet, edbus
are all the same svnrev. what svnrev is that? also installing -dbg (debug)
packages for these and gdb and gdb attaching and getting a backtrace will mean
i can actually help you! :)

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Re: enlightenment crashes

2008-09-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/9/26 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> are you sure it's enlightenment and not qpe? zecke used the same "white box 
>> of
>> death" code i have for e for catching qpe crashes and restarting it. 
>> carefully
>> read the dialog. (i already had one person complain about e crashes when it
>> actually was qpe. e also doesn't take a minute or so - e takes in the range 
>> of <
>> 10 seconds (more like 5) to completely restart itself, which is why i wonder 
>> if
>> you read the dialog. :)
>
> you're more than likely right, i found this bug a few moments ago
> which looks similar to the problem i'm getting:
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1767
>
> i probably exaggerated - it does re-start pretty quickly (approx 10
> seconds), but occasionally the whole system seems to hang and not
> accept any input after that. occasionally i need to reboot completely,
> mostly when i'm trying to read a text message
>
> ah, it just did it:
> "Enlightenment Error"
> This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd
>
> This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in
> Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach to
> this process now to try debug it or you could exit, or just hit
> restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was.
>
> Please compile everything woth -g flags in your CFLAGS
>
> (F1) Recover (F2) Exit
>

and i just go it to print a different error message
"Enlightenment SIGABRT'd"
otherwise identical to the previous one with the SEGV'd

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Re: enlightenment crashes

2008-09-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/9/26 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> is anyone else getting a lot of enlightenment crashes? my freerunner's
>> virtually unusable because of them - it usually recovers after the
>> crash, though not always, but it takes over a minute to sort itself
>> out. they usually happen whenever i use a qtopia app - messages is the
>> worst, but also contacts and dialler cause problems. i'm running the
>> stable branch, with most recent updates
>
> are you sure it's enlightenment and not qpe? zecke used the same "white box of
> death" code i have for e for catching qpe crashes and restarting it. carefully
> read the dialog. (i already had one person complain about e crashes when it
> actually was qpe. e also doesn't take a minute or so - e takes in the range 
> of <
> 10 seconds (more like 5) to completely restart itself, which is why i wonder 
> if
> you read the dialog. :)

you're more than likely right, i found this bug a few moments ago
which looks similar to the problem i'm getting:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1767

i probably exaggerated - it does re-start pretty quickly (approx 10
seconds), but occasionally the whole system seems to hang and not
accept any input after that. occasionally i need to reboot completely,
mostly when i'm trying to read a text message

ah, it just did it:
"Enlightenment Error"
This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd

This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in
Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach to
this process now to try debug it or you could exit, or just hit
restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was.

Please compile everything woth -g flags in your CFLAGS

(F1) Recover (F2) Exit

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Re: enlightenment crashes

2008-09-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:46:23 +1200 "Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> is anyone else getting a lot of enlightenment crashes? my freerunner's
> virtually unusable because of them - it usually recovers after the
> crash, though not always, but it takes over a minute to sort itself
> out. they usually happen whenever i use a qtopia app - messages is the
> worst, but also contacts and dialler cause problems. i'm running the
> stable branch, with most recent updates

are you sure it's enlightenment and not qpe? zecke used the same "white box of
death" code i have for e for catching qpe crashes and restarting it. carefully
read the dialog. (i already had one person complain about e crashes when it
actually was qpe. e also doesn't take a minute or so - e takes in the range of <
10 seconds (more like 5) to completely restart itself, which is why i wonder if
you read the dialog. :)

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enlightenment crashes

2008-09-25 Thread Robin Paulson
is anyone else getting a lot of enlightenment crashes? my freerunner's
virtually unusable because of them - it usually recovers after the
crash, though not always, but it takes over a minute to sort itself
out. they usually happen whenever i use a qtopia app - messages is the
worst, but also contacts and dialler cause problems. i'm running the
stable branch, with most recent updates

any help appreciated

cheers

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Re: A2DP direct?

2008-09-25 Thread Brad Midgley
Daniel

A few specialized bluetooth adapters have a2dp encoding/decoding that
executes on-chip. These are typically embedded in a headset or a
transmitter dongle. FR does not use one of these chips, so it has to
happen on the cpu.

There are a few bt headphones that have mp3 decoders on board and
there's been some work to make the gstreamer plugin take advantage of
it. That would sidestep the issue nicely by sending the raw mp3
straight to the headphones if it were worked out completely.

Brad

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From what I've read, if you use a bluetooth headset, the sound and the 
> bluetooth will communicate directly with eachother, and you need only alter 
> the alsa mixer settings to move the sound from one to the other.
>
> Is it possible to do the same thing with A2DP?  At present, I'm enjoying 
> listening to podcasts with my A2DP headphones and my freerunner, but if ever 
> I use the CPU for anything serious the sound gets really choppy.  It'd be 
> nice if there was some hardware solution.
>
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A2DP direct?

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Benoy
>From what I've read, if you use a bluetooth headset, the sound and the 
>bluetooth will communicate directly with eachother, and you need only alter 
>the alsa mixer settings to move the sound from one to the other.

Is it possible to do the same thing with A2DP?  At present, I'm enjoying 
listening to podcasts with my A2DP headphones and my freerunner, but if ever I 
use the CPU for anything serious the sound gets really choppy.  It'd be nice if 
there was some hardware solution.

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Re: [qtopia]how to install a qpk package?

2008-09-25 Thread Damunix
ok thanks for this informations (in fact I was telling qtopia 4.4, not 
4.3 sorry :) )

Could you give us some informations about a release date ? Because if 
all what I'm doing is on qtopia 4.4, and if it is available in a few 
week, I will wait before finishing what I'm doing :P

damunix

Lorn Potter a écrit :
> damunix wrote:
>   
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Yes, for the moment it is not possible to use it as a real Gps 
>> application. I'm writing a new C++ class that use libgps struct, but it 
>> is not finish. I'm also waiting for qtopia 4.3, which would include gps 
>> manager.
>> 
>
> That would be 4.4, and it will contain an API for gps called 
> QtopiaWhereabouts, as well as a simple example GPS application that has 
> raw NMEA and gpsd plugins. But for the Neo, I only used the NMEA plugin.
>
>
>
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Re: [qtopia]how to install a qpk package?

2008-09-25 Thread Lorn Potter
damunix wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> Yes, for the moment it is not possible to use it as a real Gps 
> application. I'm writing a new C++ class that use libgps struct, but it 
> is not finish. I'm also waiting for qtopia 4.3, which would include gps 
> manager.

That would be 4.4, and it will contain an API for gps called 
QtopiaWhereabouts, as well as a simple example GPS application that has 
raw NMEA and gpsd plugins. But for the Neo, I only used the NMEA plugin.



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Re: [qtopia]how to install a qpk package?

2008-09-25 Thread damunix
Hi all.

Yes, for the moment it is not possible to use it as a real Gps application.
I'm writing a new C++ class that use libgps struct, but it is not finish.
I'm also waiting for qtopia 4.3, which would include gps manager.

damunix

Thomas Bertani write :


> Do you or anyone else publicly available feed with CityMap package?
> Although
> I've managed to compile it and tried how it is (not) working, I gave up
> packaging it. But if there is a ready feed I would gave CityMap second
> chance...
>
> Thanks.
>

I installed it successfully but now it doesn't recognise your gps position,
you can only view, move and zoom in the maps of open street map


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Re: neo1973 does not power on.

2008-09-25 Thread tck6346
That sounds very likely what I did. I will check the fstab entry on the sd card,
but I'm almost certain it was mtdblock0.

On the minus side this means I will definitely need a debug board, but at least
it is highly likely to not be a waste of money and effort.

Thanks.

Quoting Jose Luis Perez Diez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> El Thursday, 25 de September de 2008 05:09:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] va
> escriure:
> > After hooking it up to my external power supply, I'm able to see it
> starts
> > to draw ~50mA when I hit the power button. It never actually responds
> just
> > sits there draining away the battery.
> 
> 
> I'm sure you managed to brick your 1973, I did it myself last january,
> with 
> the same result making it a /dev/null for charge.
> 
> I mounted /dev/mtdblock0 by accident instead of /dev/mtdblock4 (I had a
> bad 
> $mtdparts on the sd entry) and jffs2 reclaimed some unused space. This
> could 
> happen as resulto of this action (in the head message): 
> 
> >> 1) I added the onboard fs to my fstab in my SD debian install so that
> I
> >> could access it while booted into debian. 
> 
> the answer to your question in the previous message:
> >2) Will the newer Debug board that comes with the GTA02 work with the
> GTA01? 
> 
> Is acording to the wiki YES, see
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3 
> & http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Debug_Board_v2/Unbricking
> 


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Re: [ALL DISTROS] SD with multiple distros

2008-09-25 Thread Joachim Ott
2008/9/25 yves mahe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Here are my commands to setup the u-boot environment:
>
> setenv menu_1 Boot from microSD (partition 2): setenv bootargs
> \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
> \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 0:2 0x3200 /boot/uImage\;
> bootm 0x3200
> setenv menu_2 Boot from microSD (partition 3): setenv bootargs
> \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootdelay=5
> \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 0:3 0x3200
> /boot/uImage.bin\; bootm 0x3200
> setenv menu_3 Boot from microSD (partition 4): setenv bootargs
> \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p4 rootdelay=5
> \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 0:4 0x3200
> /boot/uImage.bin\; bootm 0x3200


I create the environment with uboot-envedit (I prepare it on the desktop PC
and just copy the binary over to the Freerunner and write it to the flash).
I have no "ro" after $mtd_parts and just "uImage.bin" in the root-directory
instead of "/boot/uImage.bin".

>
> Right now, you are able to boot from your partitions 1, 2, 3 and 6 ?


Yes, and all 4 partitions work. Notice that  mmcblk0p6 also starts beyond
the 4 GB that Andy mentioned. Try to make the first 3 partitions 1 GB only
(your last message has just arrived while I was writing this).

 # fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 249296 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   *   1   31251 124  83 Linux
/dev/mmcblk0p2   *   31252   62502 132  83 Linux
/dev/mmcblk0p3   *   62503   93753 132  83 Linux
/dev/mmcblk0p4   93754  249296 4977376   5 Extended
/dev/mmcblk0p5   93754  109379  500024  82 Linux swap
/dev/mmcblk0p6   *  109380  249296 4477336  83 Linux
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Re: [ALL DISTROS] SD with multiple distros

2008-09-25 Thread yves mahe
yves mahe wrote:
> 
> I will reformat my fat partition into ext2 and test again.
> 
Done but always strange results with u-boot (1.3.2-moko12 Aug 26 2008):

GTA02v6 # mmcinit
Card Type:  SD 2.0 SDHC
Manufacturer:   0x03, OEM "SD"
Product name:   "SU08G", revision 8.0
Serial number:  1882197159
Manufacturing date: 7/2008
MMC/SD size:3MiB
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:1 /
   4096 .
   4096 ..
  16384 lost+found
   4096 bin
   4096 boot
   4096 dev
   4096 etc
0 fastboot
   4096 home
   4096 lib
   4096 media
   4096 mnt
   4096 opt
   4096 proc
   4096 sbin
   4096 sys
  8 tmp
   4096 usr
   4096 var
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:1 /boot
   4096 .
   4096 ..
  1894716 uImage-2.6.24
 13 uImage
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:2 /
   4096 .
   4096 ..
  16384 lost+found
   4096 bin
   4096 boot
   4096 dev
   4096 etc
   4096 home
   4096 lib
   4096 local
   4096 media
   4096 mnt
   4096 proc
   4096 sbin
   4096 sys
  8 tmp
   4096 usr
   4096 var
   4096 .dbus
   4096 .e
   4096 .local
0 music.raw
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:2 /boot
   4096 .
   4096 ..
 13 uImage
  1775892 uImage-2.6.24
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:3 /
   4096 .
   4096 ..
  16384 lost+found
  707406378 var
  0 lib
   4096 etc
  0 mnt
  0 root
  -54489450 sbin
  0 proc
  0 home
  0 boot
  0 sys
  0 media
  0 opt
 2098112500 bin
  0 usr
  0 srv
  0 tmp
  0 dev
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:3 /boot
GTA02v6 # ext2ls mmc 0:4 /
Failed to mount ext2 filesystem...
** Bad ext2 partition or disk - mmc 0:4 **
GTA02v6 #


Like u-boot is not able to read correctly partitions 3  and 4.

Any hints ?

Thanks
Yves MAHE


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Re: neo1973 does not power on.

2008-09-25 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday, 25 de September de 2008 05:09:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
> After hooking it up to my external power supply, I'm able to see it starts
> to draw ~50mA when I hit the power button. It never actually responds just
> sits there draining away the battery.


I'm sure you managed to brick your 1973, I did it myself last january, with 
the same result making it a /dev/null for charge.

I mounted /dev/mtdblock0 by accident instead of /dev/mtdblock4 (I had a bad 
$mtdparts on the sd entry) and jffs2 reclaimed some unused space. This could 
happen as resulto of this action (in the head message): 

>> 1) I added the onboard fs to my fstab in my SD debian install so that I
>> could access it while booted into debian. 

the answer to your question in the previous message:
>2) Will the newer Debug board that comes with the GTA02 work with the GTA01? 

Is acording to the wiki YES, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3 
& http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Debug_Board_v2/Unbricking

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Re: [ALL DISTROS] SD with multiple distros

2008-09-25 Thread yves mahe
Joachim Ott wrote:
> 
> I've started to write something about this subject, it's not complete 
> yet: http://nop0.blogspot.com/2008/09/having-multiple-distributions-on.html
> 
> The difference to your setup is
> - I don't have a FAT partition
> - I put the uImage.bin into the each particular root-directory
> 
> I haven't had a partition beyond 7 GB yet. Does your u-boot environment 
> look similar like mine?
> 
Here are my commands to setup the u-boot environment:

setenv menu_1 Boot from microSD (partition 2): setenv bootargs 
\${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 
\${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 0:2 0x3200 /boot/uImage\; 
bootm 0x3200
setenv menu_2 Boot from microSD (partition 3): setenv bootargs 
\${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootdelay=5 
\${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 0:3 0x3200 
/boot/uImage.bin\; bootm 0x3200
setenv menu_3 Boot from microSD (partition 4): setenv bootargs 
\${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p4 rootdelay=5 
\${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 0:4 0x3200 
/boot/uImage.bin\; bootm 0x3200

Right now, you are able to boot from your partitions 1, 2, 3 and 6 ?

I will reformat my fat partition into ext2 and test again.

Thanks
Yves MAHE


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Re: [ALL DISTROS] SD with multiple distros

2008-09-25 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Sander van Grieken noticed (1) "that these partitions have to be in the
| beginning of the SD card.
| I wasn't able to boot from partitions starting at the 7GB mark."
|
| Any ideas much appreciated !

I know what that 4GB problem is, I am doing some work in Qi to solve it
and it will carry over to U-Boot.

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