Re: Selling my Freerunner...
Hello, If it has not already gone then I'll take it. Cheers, Neil 2009/1/21 James Richardson > Well, > I'm not really blessed with the free time to spend with the development of > this device right now, so I'm selling my like-new Freerunner. It's in great > shape and I have several pics at your request. I also have all the original > packaging and the stylus, neoprene case, and a BONUS 4GB Card! > > $300.00 Shipped to USA > $325.00 Shipped elsewhere. > > Any questions, just ask! > > BTW, > It is booting SHR by default but also has Hackable1 installed on the > sdcard. > > -James > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, Okay, dealing with the low resolution I thought that it could be something to do with the odl pcw/pcwx issue for philips webcam drivers. So I tried to install that, however the install instructions don;t work - the patch file bombs out and I'm not _totally_ sure how to correct the flaw manually. Basically the patch file seems to not reflect the directory structuire of the 2.6.24 kernel. After that I tried to compile the latest version of the pwc (philips webcam) driver which apparently doesn't need separate pwcx files to get a higher resolution. So I tried to install pwc-10.0.12-rc1 but the compilation of that fails with the follwoing errors: make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57/source SUBDIRS=/root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1 modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57' CC [M] /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.o /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:171: error: unknown field 'hardware' specified in initializer /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:171: error: 'VID_HARDWARE_PWC' undeclared here (not in a function) /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c: In function 'cd_to_pwc': /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1020: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c: In function 'pwc_create_sysfs_files': /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1065: warning: passing argument 2 of 'video_device_create_file' from incompatible pointer type /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1066: warning: passing argument 2 of 'video_device_create_file' from incompatible pointer type /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1065: warning: ignoring return value of 'video_device_create_file', declared with attribute warn_unused_result /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1066: warning: ignoring return value of 'video_device_create_file', declared with attribute warn_unused_result /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c: In function 'pwc_remove_sysfs_files': /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1073: warning: passing argument 2 of 'video_device_remove_file' from incompatible pointer type /root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.c:1074: warning: passing argument 2 of 'video_device_remove_file' from incompatible pointer type make[2]: *** [/root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1/pwc-if.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/root/pwc/pwc-10.0.12-rc1] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57' I'm guessing that I'm either not linking in a file I need or (more likely) the latest version of pwc won;t compile against the kernel I am using. It looks like I only have one error in a struct decleration but I now swimming in deep water as I have little idea where to go next. Anyone have an idea (I tried asking on the pwc mailing list but to no avail). Cheers, Neil 2009/1/18 Neil Benn > Hello, > > Okay I have java to video4linux running ( > http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/) and it is working well (I'll write this > up for people in the future. The next thing I need to do is to look at the > resolution issue. My camera is working with pwc and there was a problem > with pwc sometime ago so I suspect that this may be the problem. I tried to > download the latest version of pwc (10.0.11) but it won;t compile on th > emachine I'm on. I am investigsating that to see if I can get it to compile > on my machine. > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > 2009/1/16 Neil Benn > >> Hello, >> >> On the lines of gstreamer - I'm looking at trying to get >> gstreamer-java working on openmoko. From what I can see I'll need to build >> the java jna library myself for this as the library has not been built on >> the freerunner debian before. I'll try that out to see what happens - sow >> many seeds! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Neil >> >> 2009/1/16 Neil Benn >> >> Hello, >>> >>> The key is p and the consoel says 'avi recording' but no file is >>> written. However I have tried xawtv and 'J' will capture an image which is >>> a start. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> 2009/1/15 Ian Darwin >>> >>> Neil Benn wrote: >>>> > Hello, >>>> > >>>> > I see what you mean about programs to control the webcam. I >>>> > have used luvcview and xawtv to successfully view the webcam but I >>>> > cannot get either of them to stream to a file. I tried luvcview with >>>> > '/luvcview -o text.avi/' but it did not write anything (also failed on >>>> > my desktop ubuntu as well). I'm diggi
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, Okay I have java to video4linux running ( http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/) and it is working well (I'll write this up for people in the future. The next thing I need to do is to look at the resolution issue. My camera is working with pwc and there was a problem with pwc sometime ago so I suspect that this may be the problem. I tried to download the latest version of pwc (10.0.11) but it won;t compile on th emachine I'm on. I am investigsating that to see if I can get it to compile on my machine. Cheers, Neil 2009/1/16 Neil Benn > Hello, > > On the lines of gstreamer - I'm looking at trying to get > gstreamer-java working on openmoko. From what I can see I'll need to build > the java jna library myself for this as the library has not been built on > the freerunner debian before. I'll try that out to see what happens - sow > many seeds! > > Cheers, > > Neil > > 2009/1/16 Neil Benn > > Hello, >> >> The key is p and the consoel says 'avi recording' but no file is >> written. However I have tried xawtv and 'J' will capture an image which is >> a start. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Neil >> >> 2009/1/15 Ian Darwin >> >> Neil Benn wrote: >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > I see what you mean about programs to control the webcam. I >>> > have used luvcview and xawtv to successfully view the webcam but I >>> > cannot get either of them to stream to a file. I tried luvcview with >>> > '/luvcview -o text.avi/' but it did not write anything (also failed on >>> > my desktop ubuntu as well). I'm digging around to try more - cheese >>> > just fails and I Cannot install guvcview :(. >>> > >>> luvcview requires a key sequence to start recording - this is a feature. >>> If you get a picture >>> from it, you are almost there! (I forget the key sequence, maybe p or s >>> or something). >>> >>> ___ >>> support mailing list >>> support@lists.openmoko.org >>> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Neil Benn Msc >> CEO >> Ziath Ltd >> Website - http://www.ziath.com >> Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com >> >> >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is >> intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is >> addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and >> exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message >> is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for >> delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified >> that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, >> please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank >> you. >> > > > > -- > -- > > Neil Benn Msc > CEO > Ziath Ltd > Website - http://www.ziath.com > Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Experiences with GTA02 and OM2008.12 (was part of the "Brick" thread)
it > working a year later. > > And I'm not saying OM won't make it to a "production level" phone at some > point. I just don't think that at the rate they're going that they'll get > there before they've dropped support for the GTA02 (much like they've done > for the GTA01). And since they're the only group with official/financial > support from FIC doing work for the GTA, that really bothers me. > > If OM stops supporting the GTA02, do you think ANYONE will pick it up? If > someone does, will they be able to talk the GSM modem manufacturer into > releasing a firmware update if another bug is discovered, when OM/FIC had to > pull teeth to get one? OM is the only source in town, and regardless of how > "open" the source for the GUI is, there are parts of the phone that are > still closed and NOT documented to anyone but FIC/OM. Who's going to > support that when OM bows out, be it in a year when the GTA03 is out, or > when some other shiny new toy gets their attention? > > Right now by definition the GTA is not a production level phone, despite > FIC marketing it as such last year. A production level phone doesn't > require someone to spend hours tweaking a base release image to stabilize > it. I never had to tweak my production Nokia 6230 to enable GPRS. I never > had it say it delivered a text message and NOT actually send it, or > completely lose inbound text messages. Never in the 15 years I've been using > cell phones (over 5 models and 3 manufacturers) have I had one not respond > to picking up a call while ringing. I've also never had one not connect > half the voice stream when answering a call. No production phone I've ever > used has done any of these things, but my FreeRunner has done all that and > more in the 48 hours I tried to use it as my main phone. That's a lack of > core functionality. > > I'm upset that they were advertised as being ready for regular use when > clearly it's not ready for that. What upsets me most though is that a few > people keep exclaiming "But it works for me!", as if that some how > invalidates the fact that it doesn't work for the vast majority of Neo > owners. I understand having a positive attitude, and I try to do that. But > when I get burned by something, I tend to make noise. And people saying > "you should have known, despite all indications and promises to the > contrary" doesn't change the fact that I (and many others) got burned. > > All said and done I'm seeing progress. But I'm 9 months in now and still > can't rely on my shiny new $400 phone to make and receive calls and texts > like my 5 year old nokia can. As much as I love my old Nokia, it's not able > to keep up with the changes going on in world of data I live in. You can > only do so much with a 5 year old Java implementation on a sub-100Mhz CPU. > I'll need to replace it soon, and the Neo just doesn't look like it's going > to be functional as a phone in time to replace it, if it gets there at all. > > Who's to say OM won't decide to change direction again, spurring off > another base when they hit the same slope in FSO/SHR development that they > did with the old OM2007 framework? Meanwhile the technology is evolving, > and newer phones with better features and near-open-source qualities are > showing up now, with better cores, actual SDKs, and a working base image out > of the box. > > I'm really hopeful that one of the images I'm going to try this weekend > will just work and run and be happy. But I've already warned my friends > that it may take a couple calls to get a hold of me for the next few days, > because I just don't think it's going to happen. I hope I'm wrong, but with > the past 9 months as my guide, I'm not optimistic. > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, On the lines of gstreamer - I'm looking at trying to get gstreamer-java working on openmoko. From what I can see I'll need to build the java jna library myself for this as the library has not been built on the freerunner debian before. I'll try that out to see what happens - sow many seeds! Cheers, Neil 2009/1/16 Neil Benn > Hello, > > The key is p and the consoel says 'avi recording' but no file is > written. However I have tried xawtv and 'J' will capture an image which is > a start. > > Cheers, > > Neil > > 2009/1/15 Ian Darwin > > Neil Benn wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I see what you mean about programs to control the webcam. I >> > have used luvcview and xawtv to successfully view the webcam but I >> > cannot get either of them to stream to a file. I tried luvcview with >> > '/luvcview -o text.avi/' but it did not write anything (also failed on >> > my desktop ubuntu as well). I'm digging around to try more - cheese >> > just fails and I Cannot install guvcview :(. >> > >> luvcview requires a key sequence to start recording - this is a feature. >> If you get a picture >> from it, you are almost there! (I forget the key sequence, maybe p or s >> or something). >> >> ___ >> support mailing list >> support@lists.openmoko.org >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> > > > > -- > -- > > Neil Benn Msc > CEO > Ziath Ltd > Website - http://www.ziath.com > Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, The key is p and the consoel says 'avi recording' but no file is written. However I have tried xawtv and 'J' will capture an image which is a start. Cheers, Neil 2009/1/15 Ian Darwin > Neil Benn wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I see what you mean about programs to control the webcam. I > > have used luvcview and xawtv to successfully view the webcam but I > > cannot get either of them to stream to a file. I tried luvcview with > > '/luvcview -o text.avi/' but it did not write anything (also failed on > > my desktop ubuntu as well). I'm digging around to try more - cheese > > just fails and I Cannot install guvcview :(. > > > luvcview requires a key sequence to start recording - this is a feature. > If you get a picture > from it, you are almost there! (I forget the key sequence, maybe p or s > or something). > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello,
I see what you mean about programs to control the webcam. I have
used luvcview and xawtv to successfully view the webcam but I cannot get
either of them to stream to a file. I tried luvcview with '*luvcview -o
text.avi*' but it did not write anything (also failed on my desktop ubuntu
as well). I'm digging around to try more - cheese just fails and I Cannot
install guvcview :(.
Cheers,
Neil
2009/1/14 Neil Benn
> Hello,
>
> Fantastic that worked - thank you very much (I needed a make
> prepare before running make sound and I also needed to dig out a modpost
> script which I had premade), I used xawtv and luvcview to try out my camera
> (Philips SPC630NC) - I too had the poor resolution you described. I'm
> testing it out to see if it is good enough for me but I suspect that it will
> not be :(.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neil
>
> 2009/1/14 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:51:07PM +0100, Neil Benn wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am trying to enable support on my OpenMoko for Webcams. I
>> have
>> > followed the instructions to install debian by using the installation
>> script
>> > described at : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. I then
>> followed
>> > the instructions for openmoko and webcam at :
>> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam.
>>
>>I found that those instructions don't work, presumably because they are
>> outdated. Here's how I got it to work:
>>
>> --- begin HOWTO ---
>>
>> This is a description of how to use
>> a USB webcam on a Neo Freerunner running the Debian distribution as of
>> 2009-01-01. There are three parts to it:
>>
>> 1) Compiling the necessary kernel modules,
>> 2) Installing utilities for changing USB mode (host/device).
>> 3) Installing a video program.
>>
>> Throughout, commands prefixed with # should be run as root while commands
>> prefixed with $ should be run as a normal user.
>>
>> 1. Compiling the necessary kernel modules,
>>
>> # echo 'deb-src http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main'
>> >>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/pkg-fso.list
>> # apt-get update
>>
>> # apt-get install dpkg-dev bzip2 gcc make xutils-dev libc6-dev
>> libncurses5-dev
>>
>> $ cd ~
>> $ mkdir download source build
>> $ cd source
>> $ dpkg --list | grep -F -e linux-image-
>> ii linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 20081[...]
>> $ apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02
>>
>> You should now have an unpacked linux kernel tree. Make note of the extra
>> version
>> string in the directory name, which in this particular case it is
>> '-20081103.git7172ec57'. For example, use your terminal's copy/paste
>> facility to
>> make a copy of it before the 'make menuconfig' command below.
>>
>> $ cd ~/build && mkdir linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57 && cd
>> linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
>> (making use of TAB-completion to save some typing)
>> $ lndir -silent ../../source/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
>> $ cp /boot/config-2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57 .config
>> $ make menuconfig
>>
>> In 'General setup', 'Local version' enter the version string from above.
>> Nothing bad will happen to your Neo if you get it wrong, you'll just be
>> sorry
>> in an hour or so when your modules won't load.
>>
>> Most new USB cameras comply with the USB Video Class standard, for which
>> no
>> driver was included in the 2.6.24 kernel, and the other drivers have since
>> been updated. We'll download and compile the camera drivers separately.
>>
>> Some cameras include a microphone as a standard USB audio device. Enable
>> it here:
>>
>> Device Drivers -> Sound -> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture -> USB
>> devices -> USB Audio/MIDI driver (type m)
>>
>> Exit the menus all the way back to the shell, saving your new kernel
>> configuration.
>>
>> $ make M=sound modules
>> (10 minutes go by)
>>
>> Install the sound modules:
>> $ su root
>> # make M=sound modules_install
>> # exit
>>
>> Now we'll build the camera drivers.
>>
>> $ cd ~
>> $ su root
>> # ln -sf ${PWD}/source/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
>> /lib/modules/2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57/source
>> # ln -sf ${PWD}/build/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
>> /lib/modules/2.6.24-20081103.
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello,
Fantastic that worked - thank you very much (I needed a make
prepare before running make sound and I also needed to dig out a modpost
script which I had premade), I used xawtv and luvcview to try out my camera
(Philips SPC630NC) - I too had the poor resolution you described. I'm
testing it out to see if it is good enough for me but I suspect that it will
not be :(.
Cheers,
Neil
2009/1/14 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:51:07PM +0100, Neil Benn wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to enable support on my OpenMoko for Webcams. I
> have
> > followed the instructions to install debian by using the installation
> script
> > described at : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. I then
> followed
> > the instructions for openmoko and webcam at :
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam.
>
>I found that those instructions don't work, presumably because they are
> outdated. Here's how I got it to work:
>
> --- begin HOWTO ---
>
> This is a description of how to use
> a USB webcam on a Neo Freerunner running the Debian distribution as of
> 2009-01-01. There are three parts to it:
>
> 1) Compiling the necessary kernel modules,
> 2) Installing utilities for changing USB mode (host/device).
> 3) Installing a video program.
>
> Throughout, commands prefixed with # should be run as root while commands
> prefixed with $ should be run as a normal user.
>
> 1. Compiling the necessary kernel modules,
>
> # echo 'deb-src http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main'
> >>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/pkg-fso.list
> # apt-get update
>
> # apt-get install dpkg-dev bzip2 gcc make xutils-dev libc6-dev
> libncurses5-dev
>
> $ cd ~
> $ mkdir download source build
> $ cd source
> $ dpkg --list | grep -F -e linux-image-
> ii linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 20081[...]
> $ apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02
>
> You should now have an unpacked linux kernel tree. Make note of the extra
> version
> string in the directory name, which in this particular case it is
> '-20081103.git7172ec57'. For example, use your terminal's copy/paste
> facility to
> make a copy of it before the 'make menuconfig' command below.
>
> $ cd ~/build && mkdir linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57 && cd
> linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
> (making use of TAB-completion to save some typing)
> $ lndir -silent ../../source/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
> $ cp /boot/config-2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57 .config
> $ make menuconfig
>
> In 'General setup', 'Local version' enter the version string from above.
> Nothing bad will happen to your Neo if you get it wrong, you'll just be
> sorry
> in an hour or so when your modules won't load.
>
> Most new USB cameras comply with the USB Video Class standard, for which no
> driver was included in the 2.6.24 kernel, and the other drivers have since
> been updated. We'll download and compile the camera drivers separately.
>
> Some cameras include a microphone as a standard USB audio device. Enable it
> here:
>
> Device Drivers -> Sound -> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture -> USB devices
> -> USB Audio/MIDI driver (type m)
>
> Exit the menus all the way back to the shell, saving your new kernel
> configuration.
>
> $ make M=sound modules
> (10 minutes go by)
>
> Install the sound modules:
> $ su root
> # make M=sound modules_install
> # exit
>
> Now we'll build the camera drivers.
>
> $ cd ~
> $ su root
> # ln -sf ${PWD}/source/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
> /lib/modules/2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57/source
> # ln -sf ${PWD}/build/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57
> /lib/modules/2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57/build
> # exit
> $ cd ~/source
> $ wget
> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~pinchartl/uvcvideo/archive/tip.tar.bz2<http://linuxtv.org/hg/%7Epinchartl/uvcvideo/archive/tip.tar.bz2>-O
> - | tee ~/download/uvcvideo-tip.tar.bz2 | tar -jxf -
> $ sed -i -e 's/-type/-xtype/' uvcvideo-bb383c9099da/v4l/Makefile
> $ cd ~/build && mkdir uvcvideo-bb383c9099da && cd uvcvideo-bb383c9099da
> $ lndir -silent ../../source/uvcvideo-bb383c9099da
> $ make menuconfig
>
> Disable (type n) all the radio, tuner, DVB and DAB support unless you
> have devices which use it. Under 'Video capture adaptors', you can disable
> the
> teletext and debug options. Under 'V4L USB devices' leave all the drivers
> enabled unless you already know which one(s) you'll need. Exit, saving your
> configuration.
>
&g
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, Sorry, ignore that last comment - I was in the wrong folder; a side effect of working late!! Cheers, Neil 2009/1/13 Neil Benn > Hello, > > This is just a quick question but I wonder if this is my area of > concern : > > > 1) apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko- > gta02 > 2) modify linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57/defconfig-gta02 by hand > or with menuconfig > 3) sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 4) fakeroot apt-get --build source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 5) sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02*.deb > > When I execute the above commands, running command 3 downloads the sources > and unpacks them - is this overwriting the changes I have made to > defconfig-gta02 and causing the kernel to compile with the standard options > again - without my additions to tell it to compile the video4linux drivers? > > Thanks again. > > Cheers, > > Neil > > Cheers, > > Neil > > 2009/1/11 Timo Juhani Lindfors > > "Neil Benn" writes: >> > Thank you, in advance for your help. >> >> If you want to minimally modify the package >> 'linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02' I suggest the following: >> >> 1) apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 >> 2) modify linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57/defconfig-gta02 by hand >> or with menuconfig >> 3) sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 >> 4) fakeroot apt-get --build source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 >> 5) sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02*.deb >> >> If you want to help in kernel development I would recommend you get >> andy-tracking branch from git.openmoko.org/linux-2.6 >> >> >> >> ___ >> support mailing list >> support@lists.openmoko.org >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> > > > > -- > -- > > Neil Benn Msc > CEO > Ziath Ltd > Website - http://www.ziath.com > Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, This is just a quick question but I wonder if this is my area of concern : 1) apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 2) modify linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57/defconfig-gta02 by hand or with menuconfig 3) sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 4) fakeroot apt-get --build source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 5) sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02*.deb When I execute the above commands, running command 3 downloads the sources and unpacks them - is this overwriting the changes I have made to defconfig-gta02 and causing the kernel to compile with the standard options again - without my additions to tell it to compile the video4linux drivers? Thanks again. Cheers, Neil Cheers, Neil 2009/1/11 Timo Juhani Lindfors > "Neil Benn" writes: > > Thank you, in advance for your help. > > If you want to minimally modify the package > 'linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02' I suggest the following: > > 1) apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 2) modify linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57/defconfig-gta02 by hand > or with menuconfig > 3) sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 4) fakeroot apt-get --build source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 5) sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02*.deb > > If you want to help in kernel development I would recommend you get > andy-tracking branch from git.openmoko.org/linux-2.6 > > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, Whne I scan through the list of file in the package I cannot see the modules for the video for linux installed, however the config file definitely has the option for that turned on. I have attached both files to this email - I've also tried compiling these separatly with* make driver/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko*. This starts up and gives me the following: --- debian-gta02:/usr/src/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57# make drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko CHK include/linux/version.h make[1]: `include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date. CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh :1097:2: warning: #warning syscall fadvise64 not implemented :1265:2: warning: #warning syscall migrate_pages not implemented :1321:2: warning: #warning syscall pselect6 not implemented :1325:2: warning: #warning syscall ppoll not implemented :1365:2: warning: #warning syscall epoll_pwait not implemented make[1]: `drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.o' is up to date. MODPOST 292 modules --- The command then finishes with no complaints but the is no .ko file there. Errm - I'm kinda stuck now, not sure what to do - any tips would be greatly appreciated!! Cheers, Neil 2009/1/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors > "Neil Benn" writes: > > about installing the package. I'm not sure if I should run a 'make > install' > > or execute an apt-get install command. Thanks for all your help. > > sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02*.deb > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
filename should be v4l-compat.ko *not* v4l1-compt.ko 2009/1/12 Neil Benn > Hello, > > Thanks, I've compiled the image now but I am slightly troubled as > I am looking for the files which contain the video for linux drivers > (v4l1-compt.ko) in the file system. However I cannot find them - if they > were compiled, should I be able to see those files? > > Cheers, > > Neil > > 2009/1/11 Timo Juhani Lindfors > >> "Neil Benn" writes: >> > linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 package. It compains that I need to >> add >> > sources - I've searched around again but cannot find the repository >> needed >> >> deb-src http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> support mailing list >> support@lists.openmoko.org >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> > > > > -- > -- > > Neil Benn Msc > CEO > Ziath Ltd > Website - http://www.ziath.com > Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, Sorry but I have another dumb question - suppose I want to install the new kernel I have just compiled. I have run through all of the steps above and the dpkg command works fine. Now I have done this - how do I go about installing the package. I'm not sure if I should run a 'make install' or execute an apt-get install command. Thanks for all your help. Cheers, Neil 2009/1/11 Timo Juhani Lindfors > "Neil Benn" writes: > > linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 package. It compains that I need to > add > > sources - I've searched around again but cannot find the repository > needed > > deb-src http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main > > > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, Thanks, I've compiled the image now but I am slightly troubled as I am looking for the files which contain the video for linux drivers (v4l1-compt.ko) in the file system. However I cannot find them - if they were compiled, should I be able to see those files? Cheers, Neil 2009/1/11 Timo Juhani Lindfors > "Neil Benn" writes: > > linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 package. It compains that I need to > add > > sources - I've searched around again but cannot find the repository > needed > > deb-src http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main > > > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, I'm really sorry to be thick here but I'm moving onto the FreeRunner to execute the work and I cannot download the linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 package. It compains that I need to add sources - I've searched around again but cannot find the repository needed to download this. So I copied the sources.list from my desktop machine plus the contents of /var/lib/apt/lists to the freetunner. I could then do an apt-get to install and that worked in taht it downloads the sources. This complained that it could not execute dpkg-source and I need to install dpkg-dev - I tried to do an apt-get for that but it complained that dpkg-dev has no installation candidate. I guess I am missing some sources in my repos but I don't know which ones. Thanks you very much for tips and advice. Cheers, Neil 2009/1/11 Timo Juhani Lindfors > "Neil Benn" writes: > > point to asm (it does) - apart from that I'm stuck. Compiling on Ubunutu > > 8.10 if that maeks any difference? > > That is no cross-compiling. You need to compile on armel, not x86. > > To setup cross-compiling you better see wiki/Development_Environment > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
> > If you want to minimally modify the package > 'linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02' I suggest the following: > > 1) apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 2) modify linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57/defconfig-gta02 by hand > or with menuconfig > 3) sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 4) fakeroot apt-get --build source linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 > 5) sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02*.deb > > Hello, Thanks for that - I'm working on compiling the base install before I start to mess with the config file. I've followed the instructions but when I try to execute the command on line 4 (the build command), I get the following output: -- CC arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mlittle-endian" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mapcs" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mno-sched-prolog" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mabi=aapcs-linux" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mno-thumb-interwork" arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.c:1: error: bad value (armv4t) for -march= switch arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.c:1: error: bad value (arm9tdmi) for -mtune= switch make[2]: *** [arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1 make[1]: *** [prepare0] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/benn/openmoko_images/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57' make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 Build command 'cd linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. E: Child process failed --- Looking around, the comment I can find is that does teh asm-asm in include point to asm (it does) - apart from that I'm stuck. Compiling on Ubunutu 8.10 if that maeks any difference? Cheers, Neil -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
OpenMoko Webcam
Hello, I am trying to enable support on my OpenMoko for Webcams. I have followed the instructions to install debian by using the installation script described at : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. I then followed the instructions for openmoko and webcam at : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam. I downloaded the kernel and upzipped it as described. The instructions said to get a config from /proc/.config but that didn't exist after the install script. I then found a config file in the debian package which the automatic installer uses called 'linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02'. So I downlaoded the source for this and found a config file at defconfig-gta02 - I used this. Carrying on I ran the command : make drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko. However here is where the problem starts. The code goes through and shows the following output: --- debian-gta02:/usr/src/linux-2.6-openmoko-20081103.git7172ec57# make drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig CHK include/linux/version.h UPD include/linux/version.h SYMLINK include/asm-arm/arch -> include/asm-arm/arch-s3c2410 Generating include/asm-arm/mach-types.h CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h UPD include/linux/utsrelease.h SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-arm CC arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s GEN include/asm-arm/asm-offsets.h CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh :1097:2: warning: #warning syscall fadvise64 not implemented :1265:2: warning: #warning syscall migrate_pages not implemented :1321:2: warning: #warning syscall pselect6 not implemented :1325:2: warning: #warning syscall ppoll not implemented :1365:2: warning: #warning syscall epoll_pwait not implemented CC scripts/mod/empty.o HOSTCC scripts/mod/mk_elfconfig MKELF scripts/mod/elfconfig.h HOSTCC scripts/mod/file2alias.o HOSTCC scripts/mod/modpost.o HOSTCC scripts/mod/sumversion.o HOSTLD scripts/mod/modpost HOSTCC scripts/kallsyms HOSTCC scripts/conmakehash CC drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.o MODPOST 0 modules --- No 'explicit' error gets reported but the dirver file does not get made. Searching for this (on debian in gerenal as there is not much on the freerunner itself', I find comments that the config file may be incorrect - however I cannot find another source for the config file. For now I am trying to do a complete compile of the kernal on the FreeRunner but as you can imagine - that is a bit slow!! Does anyone have any advice or tips they can give me on compiling the driver and/or working out a config file? Thank you, in advance for your help. --- Cheers, Neil -- -- Neil Benn Msc CEO Ziath Ltd Website - http://www.ziath.com Blog - http://www.labauto-lounge.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message, including any attached documents, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Ziath Ltd immediately by email at i...@ziath.com. Thank you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
