RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
the full install image is an ISO, meaning CD based install. the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. -Sean From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: support@pfsense.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:09:22 -0500 Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features-Original Message- From: Chris Buechler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:24 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Christopher Iarocci wrote: Is there no way to default it to the serial console before putting the hard drive in the 5501 except this procedure? This means I have to have a piece of hardware with VGA, keyboard and 2 NIC cards that also will connect a SATA II drive. I don't have that sort of hardware laying around that is not in use. I appreciate trying to get around modifying the image, but I really need to do it that way due to the hardware constraints. What I really need is a how-to modify the image to have serial enabled on a full pfsense version. Is it as simple as modifying the default config.xml file in the image? You can modify config.xml or loader.conf, but you need some way to install to the HD and you can't put a CD-ROM on a 5501, so I don't see what the problem is with doing it that way. I was going to install to the hard drive by using my USB to SATA adapter hung off another computer the same way I do m0n0wall. Will PFSense boot from USB? Maybe I can do it your way if it does. Maybe I am not sure on the install procedure and am missing something. You refer to a CDRom. Is it not possible to download and put the image on a hard drive without a CDRom? Maybe I need to be pointed in the direction of RTFM. I was assuming the image could simply be put on a hard drive using physdiskwrite in the same manner as m0n0wall. Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Sean, Will the ISO allow me to install to a hard drive hung off a machine by a USB adapter, or will it only work if the hard drive is connected to the motherboard? I imagine I have to boot a machine off the CD created by the ISO and that will run me through an install to hard drive. Chris From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:35 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the full install image is an ISO, meaning CD based install. the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. -Sean _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: support@pfsense.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:09:22 -0500 Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features -Original Message- From: Chris Buechler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:24 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Christopher Iarocci wrote: Is there no way to default it to the serial console before putting the hard drive in the 5501 except this procedure? This means I have to have a piece of hardware with VGA, keyboard and 2 NIC cards that also will connect a SATA II drive. I don't have that sort of hardware laying around that is not in use. I appreciate trying to get around modifying the image, but I really need to do it that way due to the hardware constraints. What I really need is a how-to modify the image to have serial enabled on a full pfsense version. Is it as simple as modifying the default config.xml file in the image? You can modify config.xml or loader.conf, but you need some way to install to the HD and you can't put a CD-ROM on a 5501, so I don't see what the problem is with doing it that way. I was going to install to the hard drive by using my USB to SATA adapter hung off another computer the same way I do m0n0wall. Will PFSense boot from USB? Maybe I can do it your way if it does. Maybe I am not sure on the install procedure and am missing something. You refer to a CDRom. Is it not possible to download and put the image on a hard drive without a CDRom? Maybe I need to be pointed in the direction of RTFM. I was assuming the image could simply be put on a hard drive using physdiskwrite in the same manner as m0n0wall. Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. Learn more http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Embedded images running on compact flash are not designed for the kinds of page writes that would be involved with most packages. This is to make the system as stable as possible. Once SSD becomes a standard I'm sure they'll take a look at that, but for now - the stability wouldn't be there. As for your install get it up and running on another machine (doesn't matter about the interfaces - just get the LAN setup so you can turn on the console) Then when you swap the drive over it will detect the new interfaces upon boot and you can reassign them. I've done this several times - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is. -Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Bagnall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:14 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Tim, I'm not thinking it's difficult. I'm used to m0n0wall where you must have 2 interfaces. Also, the drive I am using is a SATA drive. The only machine I have with a SATA interface is a laptop. Could I use a laptop to set this up with a single interface? If the answer is yes, then I can do it simply enough. If the answer is no, then I'm stuck with not having the hardware to do it in the manner suggested. Chris -Original Message- From: Tim Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:28 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Embedded images running on compact flash are not designed for the kinds of page writes that would be involved with most packages. This is to make the system as stable as possible. Once SSD becomes a standard I'm sure they'll take a look at that, but for now - the stability wouldn't be there. As for your install get it up and running on another machine (doesn't matter about the interfaces - just get the LAN setup so you can turn on the console) Then when you swap the drive over it will detect the new interfaces upon boot and you can reassign them. I've done this several times - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is. -Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Bagnall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:14 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Or, make an image for the full version that is an image, not an iso, that also have the serial port enabled. This way it could be written to a hard drive bound for an embedded machine and just plopped in place with no fancy work arounds. -Original Message- From: Chris Bagnall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:14 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Yes that would be fine. All you need is to setup the LAN with an IP so you can get in and turn on the console. Then when you pull it up via serial on the new device choose assign interfaces and set it up with the new interfaces. Btw... - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is was supposed to be encouraging, re-reading it I can see it coming off as a bash - so sorry if it did come across that way. -Tim -Original Message- From: Christopher Iarocci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:34 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Tim, I'm not thinking it's difficult. I'm used to m0n0wall where you must have 2 interfaces. Also, the drive I am using is a SATA drive. The only machine I have with a SATA interface is a laptop. Could I use a laptop to set this up with a single interface? If the answer is yes, then I can do it simply enough. If the answer is no, then I'm stuck with not having the hardware to do it in the manner suggested. Chris -Original Message- From: Tim Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:28 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Embedded images running on compact flash are not designed for the kinds of page writes that would be involved with most packages. This is to make the system as stable as possible. Once SSD becomes a standard I'm sure they'll take a look at that, but for now - the stability wouldn't be there. As for your install get it up and running on another machine (doesn't matter about the interfaces - just get the LAN setup so you can turn on the console) Then when you swap the drive over it will detect the new interfaces upon boot and you can reassign them. I've done this several times - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is. -Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Bagnall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:14 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Tim, I appreciate the help. I didn't think you were bashing. Anyway, I ran the liveCD on my laptop, and as I suspected it complains that I do not have 2 working interfaces and will not go any further (it also doesn't recognize my NIC card in the machine). So, I'm stuck needing an image with the serial port on, or needing instructions on how to do it myself (I do not have the hardware needed to install it, configure it, and then move the hard drive). Can anyone help me??? I really want to use pfsense for this project, but right now I'm stuck without some guidance. The live CD does allow for shell access. I'm wondering if I can somehow do it through there or if I need to decompress the ISO and modify the loader. The other question I have is, once I know how to modify the files needed, what exactly do I put in them, and where? Thanks. Chris P.S. Couldn't an image be made for this purpose? I didn't think I was doing anything out of the ordinary putting a hard disk in a Net5501. It is quite a robust little machine and certainly can handle the full version. support@pfsense.com wrote: Yes that would be fine. All you need is to setup the LAN with an IP so you can get in and turn on the console. Then when you pull it up via serial on the new device choose assign interfaces and set it up with the new interfaces. Btw... - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is was supposed to be encouraging, re-reading it I can see it coming off as a bash - so sorry if it did come across that way. -Tim -Original Message- From: Christopher Iarocci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:34 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Tim, I'm not thinking it's difficult. I'm used to m0n0wall where you must have 2 interfaces. Also, the drive I am using is a SATA drive. The only machine I have with a SATA interface is a laptop. Could I use a laptop to set this up with a single interface? If the answer is yes, then I can do it simply enough. If the answer is no, then I'm stuck with not having the hardware to do it in the manner suggested. Chris -Original Message- From: Tim Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:28 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Embedded images running on compact flash are not designed for the kinds of page writes that would be involved with most packages. This is to make the system as stable as possible. Once SSD becomes a standard I'm sure they'll take a look at that, but for now - the stability wouldn't be there. As for your install get it up and running on another machine (doesn't matter about the interfaces - just get the LAN setup so you can turn on the console) Then when you swap the drive over it will detect the new interfaces upon boot and you can reassign them. I've done this several times - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is. -Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Bagnall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:14 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
It's been about 6 months since I did it last... but did you try and add vlans for the WAN? -Original Message- From: Christopher Iarocci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:57 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Tim, I appreciate the help. I didn't think you were bashing. Anyway, I ran the liveCD on my laptop, and as I suspected it complains that I do not have 2 working interfaces and will not go any further (it also doesn't recognize my NIC card in the machine). So, I'm stuck needing an image with the serial port on, or needing instructions on how to do it myself (I do not have the hardware needed to install it, configure it, and then move the hard drive). Can anyone help me??? I really want to use pfsense for this project, but right now I'm stuck without some guidance. The live CD does allow for shell access. I'm wondering if I can somehow do it through there or if I need to decompress the ISO and modify the loader. The other question I have is, once I know how to modify the files needed, what exactly do I put in them, and where? Thanks. Chris P.S. Couldn't an image be made for this purpose? I didn't think I was doing anything out of the ordinary putting a hard disk in a Net5501. It is quite a robust little machine and certainly can handle the full version. support@pfsense.com wrote: Yes that would be fine. All you need is to setup the LAN with an IP so you can get in and turn on the console. Then when you pull it up via serial on the new device choose assign interfaces and set it up with the new interfaces. Btw... - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is was supposed to be encouraging, re-reading it I can see it coming off as a bash - so sorry if it did come across that way. -Tim -Original Message- From: Christopher Iarocci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:34 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Tim, I'm not thinking it's difficult. I'm used to m0n0wall where you must have 2 interfaces. Also, the drive I am using is a SATA drive. The only machine I have with a SATA interface is a laptop. Could I use a laptop to set this up with a single interface? If the answer is yes, then I can do it simply enough. If the answer is no, then I'm stuck with not having the hardware to do it in the manner suggested. Chris -Original Message- From: Tim Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:28 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features Embedded images running on compact flash are not designed for the kinds of page writes that would be involved with most packages. This is to make the system as stable as possible. Once SSD becomes a standard I'm sure they'll take a look at that, but for now - the stability wouldn't be there. As for your install get it up and running on another machine (doesn't matter about the interfaces - just get the LAN setup so you can turn on the console) Then when you swap the drive over it will detect the new interfaces upon boot and you can reassign them. I've done this several times - and it isn't as difficult as you seem to be thinking it is. -Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Bagnall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:14 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features the embedded install image has a disk image for putting it on compact flash, but that wont let you install any packages once up and running. Perhaps the answer might be to modify that behaviour so that packages can be installed onto systems built using the embedded images? Surely that'd resolve the issue the OP was trying to work around? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Christopher Iarocci wrote: Or, make an image for the full version that is an image, not an iso, that also have the serial port enabled. This way it could be written to a hard drive bound for an embedded machine and just plopped in place with no fancy work arounds. We can't provide an image of a full install, because there would have to be one for every possible size hard drive, we don't know how much RAM you have so the swap cannot be sized properly, etc. We do support PXE boot installs I believe? Maybe Scott can comment, I know he worked with something related to that recently. That would be a good solution. If you have one detected interface on the installer machine, you can proceed by creating a fake VLAN for one of the interfaces. I've done that before for hardware I was just using to do the installation, it works fine. You can also boot off the USB drive, assuming the system you're using supports USB booting. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] Setting up on Soekris NET5501-70 with all features
Christopher Iarocci wrote: Sean, Will the ISO allow me to install to a hard drive hung off a machine by a USB adapter, or will it only work if the hard drive is connected to the motherboard? I imagine I have to boot a machine off the CD created by the ISO and that will run me through an install to hard drive. Yes to both, USB adapters work fine for install and operation, and you'll need to run the installer off the live CD (option 99). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
