Re: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working

2008-07-25 Thread RB
 any one have idea, where iam doing wrong ?

Perhaps if you made it a little more clear why you're using two
firewall products in-line of each other and what role they're each
expected to play.  There's likely some unexpected interplay between
the two, particularly with the effective MITM a captive portal is.

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RE: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working

2008-07-25 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
It is likely that they are doing as I do... Use pfSense for firewall and
VPN, while using Untangle for strictly filtering purposes (web, mail,
etc) and not firewalling.

- Jason 

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Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working

 any one have idea, where iam doing wrong ?

Perhaps if you made it a little more clear why you're using two
firewall products in-line of each other and what role they're each
expected to play.  There's likely some unexpected interplay between
the two, particularly with the effective MITM a captive portal is.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working

2008-07-25 Thread RB
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Jason J. Ellingson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is likely that they are doing as I do... Use pfSense for firewall and
 VPN, while using Untangle for strictly filtering purposes (web, mail,
 etc) and not firewalling.

The conjecture is appreciated, but unless you're experiencing the same
problem (CP doesn't work with bridged Untangle) I'm not sure it's
valid.  If you are having the same problem or have solved it already,
please do share.  I can guess what the problem is and a likely fix,
but that's irrelevant (and presumptive) until the 'customer' more
clearly states the problem.

They're both network control devices that have been developed with
differing philosophies and are not explicitly designed to work
together.  Hence, the need to know *precisely* what role the Untangle
device is playing in their network.

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RE: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working

2008-07-25 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
ram,
 
This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but try turning off services in
Untangle... until they are all off.  It may be that one of them (like
the Intrusion Detection module) is detecting something it doesn't like.
 
- Jason



From: ram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:41 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working




On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Tim Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


It sounds like google.com http://google.com/  is not resolving
when you have captive portal enabled. Make sure you have the DNS servers
that are assigned to your users in the list of allowed outbound IPs in
captive portal. 


 
Hi
 
thanks for the reply
 
I have added that IP address in to that Allow IP place
but still no success...
 
any other suggestions, looks like some where the packets are dropping.
 
any one have idea, where iam doing wrong ?
 
ram


Re: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working

2008-07-25 Thread Tim Nelson
I agree... and also try completely removing the Untangle box from the network 
to see if the problem clears up. 

Tim Nelson 
Systems/Network Support 
Rockbochs Inc. 
(218)727-4332 x105 

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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:38:54 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
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ram, 

This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but try turning off services in 
Untangle... until they are all off. It may be that one of them (like the 
Intrusion Detection module) is detecting something it doesn't like. 

- Jason 


From: ram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:41 AM 
To: support@pfsense.com 
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] PF and UT not working 






On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Tim Nelson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 



It sounds like google.com is not resolving when you have captive portal 
enabled. Make sure you have the DNS servers that are assigned to your users in 
the list of allowed outbound IPs in captive portal. 


Hi 

thanks for the reply 

I have added that IP address in to that Allow IP place 
but still no success... 

any other suggestions, looks like some where the packets are dropping. 

any one have idea, where iam doing wrong ? 

ram 

[pfSense Support] soekris - which model suits well ?

2008-07-25 Thread Michel Servaes
I currently have a normal I386 pc (pentium IV - 1,6GHz with 512MB RAM 
and a 20GB HDD)...
Let's say if I want to replace this with a Soekris unit... how should I 
compare this to a normal pc ?


I have about 10 ipsec VPNs, 4 VLAN's, some traffic shaping and some 
packages installed (I am planning on either using a CF HDD or if I need 
to take one of the Soekris boards that have an IDE/SATA connector, I'd 
install a small 2,5 HDD ofcourse).
Because of the CF HDD (and not CF Flash) I asume I can safely install 
the full version - and in doing so, I would have all functionality like 
I have now on my Pentium IV ??


Sure, I can take the net 5501-70, but this might as well be overkill...

I'm also planning on installing another Soekris at home (with a monowall 
CF card as backup, and pfSense (CF HDD) for daily use - I assume I can 
exchange the config.xml between mono  pfsense for that matter ?) 

the home router is just an old PentiumIII 600mhz, I guess any Soekris 
will do just fine here at home ?



I am currently weighing my options, since I cant make up my mind - in 
either buying Alix, Wrap, Soekris or just plain stay with a normal 
(intel) motherboard... the advantage of having a normal motherboard, is 
that I can use gbit cards ofcourse (which either Alix, Wrap  Soekris 
does not offer today)... not that I have any use for gbit at home (all 
my switching is gbit, but my internet is just about 20mbit)





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Re: [pfSense Support] soekris - which model suits well ?

2008-07-25 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Michel Servaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I currently have a normal I386 pc (pentium IV - 1,6GHz with 512MB RAM and a
 20GB HDD)...
 Let's say if I want to replace this with a Soekris unit... how should I
 compare this to a normal pc ?

 I have about 10 ipsec VPNs, 4 VLAN's, some traffic shaping and some packages
 installed (I am planning on either using a CF HDD or if I need to take one
 of the Soekris boards that have an IDE/SATA connector, I'd install a small
 2,5 HDD ofcourse).
 Because of the CF HDD (and not CF Flash) I asume I can safely install the
 full version - and in doing so, I would have all functionality like I have
 now on my Pentium IV ??


Maybe, maybe not. You have a LOT more horsepower with a P4 than a 5501
or ALIX even. If an ALIX would suit your needs I would recommend it
over Soekris gear, PC Engines donates a lot of gear to us developers
so they tend to be better tested, and of course I recommend you
support the companies that support us. From watching the Soekris list
since the 5501 release, there appear to be some widespread defects in
the 5501 boards that require shipping back to Soekris for repair so I
would personally be leery of buying one at this point.

I purchase the ALIX setups I deploy from netgate.com, great folks there.

Back on topic - whether or not an ALIX will handle your needs depends
on a few things. What throughput do you require, and what IPsec
throughput do you require?

See also:
http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=52Itemid=49


 I'm also planning on installing another Soekris at home (with a monowall CF
 card as backup, and pfSense (CF HDD) for daily use - I assume I can
 exchange the config.xml between mono  pfsense for that matter ?)

From m0n0 to pfSense, yes. In the opposite direction, no. m0n0 configs
restored on pfsense are converted.


 the home router is just an old PentiumIII 600mhz, I guess any Soekris will
 do just fine here at home ?


Again depends on bandwidth, features, etc. I have a 20 Mb cable modem
and 3 Mb DSL at home, I could barely max out both of those with a
4801, but that's running way too close to capacity for my comfort. I
run a 1 GHz VIA 1U rack mount donated by hacom.net as my perimeter
home firewall. (because who doesn't have rack cabinets at home? ;) Or
in Scott Ullrich's case, a dead mini fridge that happens to be a
perfect fit for 19 rack mount gear)  It doesn't break a sweat pegging
both connections. An ALIX would also work fine also and still leave
plenty of headroom.

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