[pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Michel Servaes
I was wondering, and am going to try this, this evening... how would an 
embedded-install go onto a normal pc system ?



I downloaded the 2.0 Beta, physdiskwrite'ed it to a CF card of 2GB
Going to place it in the CF to IDE adaptor (where monowall currently 
runs fine, on another CF card).


And boot the system up...



My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the 
LAN, to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one - 
but how can I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the 
first one ?)


Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?

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[pfSense Support] Re: embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Ugo Bellavance

On 2009-12-28 04:18, Michel Servaes wrote:

I was wondering, and am going to try this, this evening... how would an
embedded-install go onto a normal pc system ?


I downloaded the 2.0 Beta, physdiskwrite'ed it to a CF card of 2GB
Going to place it in the CF to IDE adaptor (where monowall currently
runs fine, on another CF card).

And boot the system up...



My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the
LAN, to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one -
but how can I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the
first one ?)

Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?


It is named after drivers, so if you have NICs that are not using the 
same driver, it is rather easy.  If no, use the auto-detection... I 
think the way it works is that you connect the nic you want and make 
sure there is a link.


hth

Ugo


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Re: [pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 01:18, Michel Servaes mic...@mcmc.be wrote:
 I was wondering, and am going to try this, this evening... how would an
 embedded-install go onto a normal pc system ?


 I downloaded the 2.0 Beta, physdiskwrite'ed it to a CF card of 2GB
 Going to place it in the CF to IDE adaptor (where monowall currently runs
 fine, on another CF card).

 And boot the system up...



 My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the LAN,
 to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one - but how can
 I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the first one ?)

 Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?

Hook up a monitor and keyboard. Get into the console. Plug in the one
of the NICs to a switch (probably the one on your LAN). Do an
ifconfig, and see which of your NICs is active.

Or, since you're already running monowall, check it to see which it
thinks is which - how did you figure that one out?
Kurt

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Re: [pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Jim Pingle
On 12/28/2009 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff wrote:
 My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the LAN,
 to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one - but how can
 I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the first one ?)

 Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?
 
 Hook up a monitor and keyboard. Get into the console. Plug in the one
 of the NICs to a switch (probably the one on your LAN). Do an
 ifconfig, and see which of your NICs is active.

If you are running an embedded image, keyboard/monitor will be disabled
and you will need a null modem serial cable to configure this part.

 Or, since you're already running monowall, check it to see which it
 thinks is which - how did you figure that one out?

That is sound advice. You could edit your pfSense configuration to
include these device names before booting the embedded image, otherwise
you'd need to use the serial console to reassign them.

If you want to edit the config directly on the CF, see here:
http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Modifying_Embedded

The reason it works out of the box on ALIX/Soekris is because the
default network adapter names for those are vr0/vr1 on both platforms so
those are in the default configuration.

Jim

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Re: [pfSense Support] Re: embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Seth Mos

Op 28-12-2009 16:18, Ugo Bellavance schreef:

On 2009-12-28 04:18, Michel Servaes wrote:



My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the
LAN, to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one -
but how can I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the
first one ?)


In 2.0 it will also display the long name for the network card plus the 
driver name. This was a often requested feature.


Also helps to tell different version of the same driver cards apart from 
each other.




It is named after drivers, so if you have NICs that are not using the
same driver, it is rather easy. If no, use the auto-detection... I think


Regards,

Seth

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Re: [pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Michel Servaes



 My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the LAN,
 to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one - but how can
 I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the first one ?)

 Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?

 Hook up a monitor and keyboard. Get into the console. Plug in the one
 of the NICs to a switch (probably the one on your LAN). Do an
 ifconfig, and see which of your NICs is active.

 Or, since you're already running monowall, check it to see which it
 thinks is which - how did you figure that one out?
 Kurt


Well I gathered that installing the 2.0 nanobsd embedded wouldn't have
a VGA output possible, in which monowall has.
But if this is the case, I could hook it up the serial one ofcourse...
will see what happens this evening.

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Re: [pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Michel Servaes
I do get VGA output... but it simply hangs on BTX loader version ...
Anyway, I saw this kind of replies, need to be posted to the 2.0
forum... so I'll take it up to there (googling to the BTX loader hang
phenomen, gave a lot of feedback on the net - I guess it rather is a
FreeBSD issue than a pfSense one.)

Thanks for your replies though !

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Michel Servaes mic...@mcmc.be wrote:



 My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the LAN,
 to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one - but how can
 I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the first one ?)

 Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?

 Hook up a monitor and keyboard. Get into the console. Plug in the one
 of the NICs to a switch (probably the one on your LAN). Do an
 ifconfig, and see which of your NICs is active.

 Or, since you're already running monowall, check it to see which it
 thinks is which - how did you figure that one out?
 Kurt


 Well I gathered that installing the 2.0 nanobsd embedded wouldn't have
 a VGA output possible, in which monowall has.
 But if this is the case, I could hook it up the serial one ofcourse...
 will see what happens this evening.


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Re: [pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 07:51, Jim Pingle li...@pingle.org wrote:
 On 12/28/2009 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff wrote:
 My big question - how would I tell which network interface will be the LAN,
 to run the WebGUI wizard on... (on an Alix, it's the first one - but how can
 I tell on this P3-600 (old compaq) board, which would be the first one ?)

 Or won't it run at all ? Any first thoughts here ?

 Hook up a monitor and keyboard. Get into the console. Plug in the one
 of the NICs to a switch (probably the one on your LAN). Do an
 ifconfig, and see which of your NICs is active.

 If you are running an embedded image, keyboard/monitor will be disabled
 and you will need a null modem serial cable to configure this part.

Oooppss

Missed that.

Sorry.

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Re: [pfSense Support] embedded install on a Pentium III system

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:33, Michel Servaes mic...@mcmc.be wrote:
 I do get VGA output... but it simply hangs on BTX loader version ...
 Anyway, I saw this kind of replies, need to be posted to the 2.0
 forum... so I'll take it up to there (googling to the BTX loader hang
 phenomen, gave a lot of feedback on the net - I guess it rather is a
 FreeBSD issue than a pfSense one.)

 Thanks for your replies though !

Yeah, sorry for the wild goose chase on the embedded install. Still,
monowall should differentiate those for you.

Kurt

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