Re: RE: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-23 Thread James Bensley
On 22 Feb 2011 21:38, Nathan Eisenberg nat...@atlasnetworks.us wrote:

 Almost certainly not.  The update communication is done over an SSL
channel and specific ports.  Even if you get the ports right,

Why wouldn't you, they're not random, you set them youself?!

 I highly suspect the SSL communication will cause problems.

I doubt it, why would the SSL cause problems unless you denied clients
authentication, but why would you deny access to your own clients?!?

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RE: RE: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-23 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
 I doubt it, why would the SSL cause problems unless you denied clients
 authentication, but why would you deny access to your own clients?!?

You probably don't have the ability to sign valid certificates for 
update.microsoft.com.  Since you're redirecting SSL traffic bound for that 
destination, instead of telling the application to talk to the right server, 
the common name is going to be wrong, and the SSL handshake will fail.

Nathan


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Re: RE: RE: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-23 Thread James Bensley
That is a possibility, perhps instead of NAT'ing the connections if you had
a local DNS entry for update.microsoft.com though I suspect SSL woupd be
fine. However I believe SSL is optional, so that might not be a problem at
all?

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-23 Thread Moshe Katz
See the official Squid FAQ about Windows Update.   It explains why you are
having this problem.
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/WindowsUpdate

Moshe

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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.inwrote:

 Dear db,

 i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a proper
 way??

 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I am having 500 windows client machines connected through pfSense and
 squid,
  please suggest me a suitable method for handling updates.

 You'll find the appropriate info here:

 http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning

 db

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RE: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-22 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Almost certainly not.  The update communication is done over an SSL channel and 
specific ports.  Even if you get the ports right, I highly suspect the SSL 
communication will cause problems.

Just build a reg file to point the client boxes at your WSUS/SC server and 
import it.  I've seen this done at dozens of installations, and it works 
flawlessly.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:57 AM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense
 
 Well I haven't tried it but it could work, perhaps Google it?  Initially I 
 can't see
 why it wouldn't work but I haven't tried it so I can't say for sure.
 
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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-18 Thread Johan Hendriks

David Burgess schreef:

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Shali K.R.sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in  wrote:

Dear db,

i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a proper
way??

I uninstalled the squid package about three months ago, unable to get
it to function properly. I will try it again when pfsense 2.0 is
stable, and probably pick up the book as well. I wish I could be more
helpful than that.

db
As far as i am concerned, squid does not belong on the firewall itself 
in the first place.

So use a separate machine to proxy.

regards,
Johan Hendriks



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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-18 Thread James Bensley
If you cant use a domain with a WSUS server, why not redirect the IP ranges
of MS update servers to your WSUS server on your firewall?

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-18 Thread Shali K.R.
Dear James Bensley,

Just redirect to local WSUS server will solve this issue?

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM, James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you cant use a domain with a WSUS server, why not redirect the IP ranges
 of MS update servers to your WSUS server on your firewall?

 --James. (This email was sent from a mobile device)




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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-18 Thread James Bensley
Well I haven't tried it but it could work, perhaps Google it?  Initially I
can't see why it wouldn't work but I haven't tried it so I can't say for
sure.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-17 Thread David Burgess
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in wrote:
 Dear all,

 I am having 500 windows client machines connected through pfSense and squid,
 please suggest me a suitable method for handling updates.

You'll find the appropriate info here:

http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning

db

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-17 Thread Shali K.R.
Dear db,

i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a proper
way??

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I am having 500 windows client machines connected through pfSense and
 squid,
  please suggest me a suitable method for handling updates.

 You'll find the appropriate info here:

 http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning

 db

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-17 Thread David Burgess
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in wrote:
 Dear db,

 i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a proper
 way??

I uninstalled the squid package about three months ago, unable to get
it to function properly. I will try it again when pfsense 2.0 is
stable, and probably pick up the book as well. I wish I could be more
helpful than that.

db

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-17 Thread Mike McLaughlin
The proper way to handle that many clients is to run a WSUS update server
(or its new replacement, System Center).

Mike McLaughlin - System Administrator
Clientworks, Inc - 721 Zion St, Nevada City, CA 95959
Office 530-470-0104 - Cell 530-559-9606


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.inwrote:

 Dear db,

 i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a proper
 way??

 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I am having 500 windows client machines connected through pfSense and
 squid,
  please suggest me a suitable method for handling updates.

 You'll find the appropriate info here:

 http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning

 db

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-17 Thread Shali K.R.
Dear Mike McLaughlin,

But WSUS requires a domain controller for the perfect functioning, i also
tried this without domain controller but its not working well


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Mike McLaughlin obr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The proper way to handle that many clients is to run a WSUS update server
 (or its new replacement, System Center).

 Mike McLaughlin - System Administrator
 Clientworks, Inc - 721 Zion St, Nevada City, CA 95959
 Office 530-470-0104 - Cell 530-559-9606



 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.inwrote:

 Dear db,

 i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a proper
 way??

 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I am having 500 windows client machines connected through pfSense and
 squid,
  please suggest me a suitable method for handling updates.

 You'll find the appropriate info here:

 http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning

 db

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Re: [pfSense Support] Microsoft updates through pfSense

2011-02-17 Thread Mike McLaughlin
Ah, sorry. I don't have a great recommendation for you then. I've not used a
WSUS server without a domain.

You can tune squid to cache larger files, but I too am not extremely fond of
Squid. I always have random issues with this and that running it (mainly
custom web apps, java, etc).

Mike McLaughlin - System Administrator
Clientworks, Inc - 721 Zion St, Nevada City, CA 95959
Office 530-470-0104 - Cell 530-559-9606


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.inwrote:

 Dear Mike McLaughlin,

 But WSUS requires a domain controller for the perfect functioning, i also
 tried this without domain controller but its not working well


 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Mike McLaughlin obr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The proper way to handle that many clients is to run a WSUS update server
 (or its new replacement, System Center).

 Mike McLaughlin - System Administrator
 Clientworks, Inc - 721 Zion St, Nevada City, CA 95959
 Office 530-470-0104 - Cell 530-559-9606



 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.inwrote:

 Dear db,

 i have tried this, but it showing a high bandwidth usage, is this a
 proper way??

 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Shali K.R. sh...@vidyaacademy.ac.in
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I am having 500 windows client machines connected through pfSense and
 squid,
  please suggest me a suitable method for handling updates.

 You'll find the appropriate info here:

 http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning

 db

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