Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Mansfield
Christopher Iarocci wrote:
 I'd love to use OpenVPN, but the end users have to set it up themselves, and


what I've done is to have one config file with all the common stuff at
the top and a section at the bottom with individual people's config
(just two lines for their key/cert) commented out, saying uncomment. I
then hand them the key or cert physically on a USB key when they're in
the office. only had one muppet struggle, but that was partly my fault
as they used an out of date config file.

that said most of our users are moderately to very technical.

we also have an ADSL service separate from our main leased line which we
can use for VPN testing, so people having issues can bring their laptops
along and we can prove it works. it's also used for out-of-band
monitoring of systems, so it's not wasted!

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-15 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:00:21PM -0500, Chris Buechler wrote:

 You can build an installer file that has no prompts for the user to
 click and auto installs the config - double click the installer, wait
 a bit, and you're done. pfSense 2.0 has the capability to create such

I'm really looking forward to that feature. I need it yesterday ;)

 an install file for Windows clients. I wouldn't recommend running that
 in production yet, though it does work perfectly last I tried it.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Christopher Iarocci
I'm embarrassed to write this, and I'm having trouble finding someone to lend 
me a gun, but you were right.  The PPTP server was enabled on my side causing 
the problem.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354


-Original Message-
From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:56 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

Is the PPTP server enabled on the 'other' pfSense firewall where the clients 
are connecting *FROM*? That may be your problem... see here:  
http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=43
'
Specifically this text:

Limitations
* Because of limitations in pf NAT, when the PPTP Server is enabled, PPTP 
clients cannot use the same public IP for outbound PPTP connections. This means 
if you have only one public IP, and use the PPTP Server, PPTP clients inside 
your network will not work. The work around is to use a second public IP with 
Advanced Outbound NAT for your internal clients. See also the PPTP limitation 
under NAT on this page. 

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:

 Tried putting an unused LAN IP in the server field, no difference
 whatsoever.  It gives me the same exact errors on the client side and
 in the
 PFSense logs.  Anything else I can try?  Just as an FYI, the clients I
 am
 testing with are XP Pro and Vista Ultimate.  Both are behind another
 PFSense
 firewall.  I only try a single machine at any one time.  I can't get
 my head
 wrapped around the fact that it used to work like a charm with the
 same
 exact config.  I even went back into previously saved configs and
 compared
 them and there is no difference.  It worked with this config as
 recently as
 12/29/07 (last PPTP log entry).
 
 Christopher Iarocci
 Network Solutions Manager
 Twin Forks Office Products
 631-727-3354
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?
 
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci
 ciaro...@tfop.net
 wrote:
  Chris,
 
  Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the
 LAN IP
 of
  the PFSense box, or something other than that?
 
 
 Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.
 
 
  Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address
 specified
  there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field,
 requests
 to
  the radius server came from the LAN IP.
 
 
 The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN.
 The
 server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.
 
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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Glenn Kelley

Christopher -

Thank you for the early morning laugh.

If you were closer to New York like us - I am willing to bet the gun  
would be easier to find due to this cruddy market ;-)


I have found most every problem I have had has been user error...
PEBKAC is the motto of the day I guess

problem exists between keyboard and chair


Glenn

On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Christopher Iarocci wrote:

I'm embarrassed to write this, and I'm having trouble finding  
someone to lend me a gun, but you were right.  The PPTP server was  
enabled on my side causing the problem.


Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354


-Original Message-
From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:56 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

Is the PPTP server enabled on the 'other' pfSense firewall where the  
clients are connecting *FROM*? That may be your problem... see  
here:  http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=43

'
Specifically this text:

Limitations
   * Because of limitations in pf NAT, when the PPTP Server is  
enabled, PPTP clients cannot use the same public IP for outbound  
PPTP connections. This means if you have only one public IP, and use  
the PPTP Server, PPTP clients inside your network will not work. The  
work around is to use a second public IP with Advanced Outbound NAT  
for your internal clients. See also the PPTP limitation under NAT on  
this page.


Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:


Tried putting an unused LAN IP in the server field, no difference
whatsoever.  It gives me the same exact errors on the client side and
in the
PFSense logs.  Anything else I can try?  Just as an FYI, the  
clients I

am
testing with are XP Pro and Vista Ultimate.  Both are behind another
PFSense
firewall.  I only try a single machine at any one time.  I can't get
my head
wrapped around the fact that it used to work like a charm with the
same
exact config.  I even went back into previously saved configs and
compared
them and there is no difference.  It worked with this config as
recently as
12/29/07 (last PPTP log entry).

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354

-Original Message-
From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci
ciaro...@tfop.net
wrote:

Chris,

Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the

LAN IP
of

the PFSense box, or something other than that?



Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.



Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address

specified

there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field,

requests
to

the radius server came from the LAN IP.



The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN.
The
server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Tim Nelson
No need for self-induced bodily harm... we've all been there. :-)

The PPTP problem is one of those 'gotchas' when working with pfSense that we 
used to run into all the time. BUT, frankly we don't use PPTP anymore for many 
reasons and it hasn't been an issue for us. If you simply need to give road 
warriors access to your network, *PLEASE* check out OpenVPN as it is incredibly 
robust and infinitely more secure. It is a tad more difficult to setup but 
that's what the forum, list, and paid pfSense support are for! :-)

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:

 I'm embarrassed to write this, and I'm having trouble finding someone
 to lend me a gun, but you were right.  The PPTP server was enabled on
 my side causing the problem.
 
 Christopher Iarocci
 Network Solutions Manager
 Twin Forks Office Products
 631-727-3354
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:56 AM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Cc: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?
 
 Is the PPTP server enabled on the 'other' pfSense firewall where the
 clients are connecting *FROM*? That may be your problem... see here: 
 http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=43
 '
 Specifically this text:
 
 Limitations
 * Because of limitations in pf NAT, when the PPTP Server is
 enabled, PPTP clients cannot use the same public IP for outbound PPTP
 connections. This means if you have only one public IP, and use the
 PPTP Server, PPTP clients inside your network will not work. The work
 around is to use a second public IP with Advanced Outbound NAT for
 your internal clients. See also the PPTP limitation under NAT on this
 page. 
 
 Tim Nelson
 Systems/Network Support
 Rockbochs Inc.
 (218)727-4332 x105
 
 - Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:
 
  Tried putting an unused LAN IP in the server field, no difference
  whatsoever.  It gives me the same exact errors on the client side
 and
  in the
  PFSense logs.  Anything else I can try?  Just as an FYI, the clients
 I
  am
  testing with are XP Pro and Vista Ultimate.  Both are behind
 another
  PFSense
  firewall.  I only try a single machine at any one time.  I can't
 get
  my head
  wrapped around the fact that it used to work like a charm with the
  same
  exact config.  I even went back into previously saved configs and
  compared
  them and there is no difference.  It worked with this config as
  recently as
  12/29/07 (last PPTP log entry).
  
  Christopher Iarocci
  Network Solutions Manager
  Twin Forks Office Products
  631-727-3354
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
  To: support@pfsense.com
  Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?
  
  On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci
  ciaro...@tfop.net
  wrote:
   Chris,
  
   Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be
 the
  LAN IP
  of
   the PFSense box, or something other than that?
  
  
  Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.
  
  
   Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address
  specified
   there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field,
  requests
  to
   the radius server came from the LAN IP.
  
  
  The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN.
  The
  server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.
  
 
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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Mansfield
Tim Nelson wrote:
 If you simply need to give road warriors access to your network, *PLEASE* 
 check out OpenVPN 

yes, what he said.

we've got windows (XP, vista), linux  and Mac users all on openVPN and
it mainly just works.

don't make life hard for yourself :-)

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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Christopher Iarocci
I'd love to use OpenVPN, but the end users have to set it up themselves, and
honestly, it's not easy enough for an end user to do.  Editing a text file
with technical information is beyond most end users capability.  If there
was a point and click GUI made for it, that would be different.  Getting
them just to run an install on their laptops to install OpenVPN is a chore
(and that's the easy part).  Configuring it, well, I gave up completely
after talking to too many end users who just sat on the other end of the
phone silent because they didn't know what a text file was, or how to find
Notepad...etc.  I do agree that OpenVPN is better than PPTP, except when
it comes to setting it up.  In that part if falls way behind PPTP.

Maybe someone can prove me wrong and show me a simple tutorial that a
typical computer illiterate end user can follow and be successful.

BTW, when you're not stupid like me, and you don't enable your local PPTP
server on your local PFSense box, PPTP just works too.  This was the first
time I ever had a problem with it, and the fact that the other administrator
enabled it on the same day as the upgrade I did made me think it was upgrade
related when in fact it was not.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354


-Original Message-
From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:42 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

Tim Nelson wrote:
 If you simply need to give road warriors access to your network, *PLEASE*
check out OpenVPN 

yes, what he said.

we've got windows (XP, vista), linux  and Mac users all on openVPN and
it mainly just works.

don't make life hard for yourself :-)

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:
 I'd love to use OpenVPN, but the end users have to set it up themselves, and
 honestly, it's not easy enough for an end user to do.

You can build an installer file that has no prompts for the user to
click and auto installs the config - double click the installer, wait
a bit, and you're done. pfSense 2.0 has the capability to create such
an install file for Windows clients. I wouldn't recommend running that
in production yet, though it does work perfectly last I tried it.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-14 Thread Christopher Iarocci
Now THAT is easy.  That being said, I can't wait for 2.0 to come out.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354


-Original Message-
From: cbuech...@gmail.com [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Buechler
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:00 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net
wrote:
 I'd love to use OpenVPN, but the end users have to set it up themselves,
and
 honestly, it's not easy enough for an end user to do.

You can build an installer file that has no prompts for the user to
click and auto installs the config - double click the installer, wait
a bit, and you're done. pfSense 2.0 has the capability to create such
an install file for Windows clients. I wouldn't recommend running that
in production yet, though it does work perfectly last I tried it.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-12 Thread Tim Nelson
Is the PPTP server enabled on the 'other' pfSense firewall where the clients 
are connecting *FROM*? That may be your problem... see here:  
http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=43
'
Specifically this text:

Limitations
* Because of limitations in pf NAT, when the PPTP Server is enabled, PPTP 
clients cannot use the same public IP for outbound PPTP connections. This means 
if you have only one public IP, and use the PPTP Server, PPTP clients inside 
your network will not work. The work around is to use a second public IP with 
Advanced Outbound NAT for your internal clients. See also the PPTP limitation 
under NAT on this page. 

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:

 Tried putting an unused LAN IP in the server field, no difference
 whatsoever.  It gives me the same exact errors on the client side and
 in the
 PFSense logs.  Anything else I can try?  Just as an FYI, the clients I
 am
 testing with are XP Pro and Vista Ultimate.  Both are behind another
 PFSense
 firewall.  I only try a single machine at any one time.  I can't get
 my head
 wrapped around the fact that it used to work like a charm with the
 same
 exact config.  I even went back into previously saved configs and
 compared
 them and there is no difference.  It worked with this config as
 recently as
 12/29/07 (last PPTP log entry).
 
 Christopher Iarocci
 Network Solutions Manager
 Twin Forks Office Products
 631-727-3354
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?
 
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci
 ciaro...@tfop.net
 wrote:
  Chris,
 
  Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the
 LAN IP
 of
  the PFSense box, or something other than that?
 
 
 Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.
 
 
  Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address
 specified
  there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field,
 requests
 to
  the radius server came from the LAN IP.
 
 
 The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN.
 The
 server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.
 
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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-12 Thread Christopher Iarocci
Tim,

If that is it, I'm going to shoot myself.  I'll check again tonight when I am 
home.  I've never used the PPTP server at home so my first instinct would be 
no, it is not enabled, but who knows.  Maybe I checked the box at one time, or 
maybe someone else did (there is another admin in my web of IPSec VPNs that can 
modify my firewall).  Thank you for pointing that out though.  I wouldn't have 
checked it.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354


-Original Message-
From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:56 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

Is the PPTP server enabled on the 'other' pfSense firewall where the clients 
are connecting *FROM*? That may be your problem... see here:  
http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=43
'
Specifically this text:

Limitations
* Because of limitations in pf NAT, when the PPTP Server is enabled, PPTP 
clients cannot use the same public IP for outbound PPTP connections. This means 
if you have only one public IP, and use the PPTP Server, PPTP clients inside 
your network will not work. The work around is to use a second public IP with 
Advanced Outbound NAT for your internal clients. See also the PPTP limitation 
under NAT on this page. 

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:

 Tried putting an unused LAN IP in the server field, no difference
 whatsoever.  It gives me the same exact errors on the client side and
 in the
 PFSense logs.  Anything else I can try?  Just as an FYI, the clients I
 am
 testing with are XP Pro and Vista Ultimate.  Both are behind another
 PFSense
 firewall.  I only try a single machine at any one time.  I can't get
 my head
 wrapped around the fact that it used to work like a charm with the
 same
 exact config.  I even went back into previously saved configs and
 compared
 them and there is no difference.  It worked with this config as
 recently as
 12/29/07 (last PPTP log entry).
 
 Christopher Iarocci
 Network Solutions Manager
 Twin Forks Office Products
 631-727-3354
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?
 
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci
 ciaro...@tfop.net
 wrote:
  Chris,
 
  Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the
 LAN IP
 of
  the PFSense box, or something other than that?
 
 
 Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.
 
 
  Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address
 specified
  there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field,
 requests
 to
  the radius server came from the LAN IP.
 
 
 The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN.
 The
 server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.
 
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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-09 Thread Christopher Iarocci
Chris,

Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the LAN IP of
the PFSense box, or something other than that?

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354

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Buechler
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:34 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net
wrote:
 I also noticed that when I save the config, it shows the PPTP server
address
 as 0.0.0.0 in the log, even though I clearly have the WAN IP address in
that
 field.

There's at least one problem, that has to be an IP on your LAN,
assuming you're putting the PPTP clients on your LAN subnet.  I don't
know how that ever could have worked.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-09 Thread Christopher Iarocci
Chris,

Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the LAN IP of
the PFSense box, or something other than that?

[Christopher Iarocci] 
Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address specified
there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field, requests to
the radius server came from the LAN IP.

Sorry for the double post.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354

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Buechler
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:34 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net
wrote:
 I also noticed that when I save the config, it shows the PPTP server
address
 as 0.0.0.0 in the log, even though I clearly have the WAN IP address in
that
 field.

There's at least one problem, that has to be an IP on your LAN,
assuming you're putting the PPTP clients on your LAN subnet.  I don't
know how that ever could have worked.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:
 Chris,

 Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the LAN IP of
 the PFSense box, or something other than that?


Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.


 Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address specified
 there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field, requests to
 the radius server came from the LAN IP.


The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN. The
server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-09 Thread Christopher Iarocci
Chris,

Thank you.  I will try the new config tonight and report back.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354


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From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net
wrote:
 Chris,

 Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the LAN IP
of
 the PFSense box, or something other than that?


Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.


 Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address specified
 there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field, requests
to
 the radius server came from the LAN IP.


The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN. The
server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-09 Thread Tim Nelson
On the increasingly rare occasions I set up PPTP, I put the server on .15 and 
clients starting at .16 for the LAN subnet. If your client 'subnet' does not 
begin on a CIDR boundary, pfSense will complain. Hence, the .16 choice.

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:

 Chris,
 
 Thank you.  I will try the new config tonight and report back.
 
 Christopher Iarocci
 Network Solutions Manager
 Twin Forks Office Products
 631-727-3354
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?
 
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christopher Iarocci
 ciaro...@tfop.net
 wrote:
  Chris,
 
  Does it matter which IP address on my LAN it is?  Should it be the
 LAN IP
 of
  the PFSense box, or something other than that?
 
 
 Just pick an unused IP on your LAN.
 
 
  Does the radius server see requests coming from the IP address
 specified
  there or the LAN IP?  In the past with the WAN IP in that field,
 requests
 to
  the radius server came from the LAN IP.
 
 
 The IP of the interface closest to the RADIUS server, usually LAN.
 The
 server IP is just for PPTP client - server communication.
 
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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-08 Thread Christopher Iarocci
That being said, does ANYONE have a clue why my PPTP server is suddenly
broken after the 1.2.1 upgrade?  BTW, doing more testing, I tried
eliminating the Radius server and used local authentication.  The same exact
errors appear, so it does not seem to be a problem with the radius setup.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354

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From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:59 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Morgan Reed morgan.s.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net
wrote:
 I have a single WAN setup and PPTP has been broken since I upgraded to
 1.2.1.  In version 1.2 it worked perfectly.  I've tried changing settings
 and putting them back, but it continues to fail at the authentication
 process as you've described.  I have the same setup as you, a W2K3 server
 acting as radius and the PFSense machine acting as the PPTP server.
Anyone
 else notice that PPTP has broken since 1.2.1 upgrade?  Here is a snippit
of
 my logs

 Apparently there are three major bugs being fixed in 1.2.2, this may
 be one of them.


They aren't major, aside from the setup wizard issue they're rare edge
cases or minor things. PPTP isn't one.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:
 That being said, does ANYONE have a clue why my PPTP server is suddenly
 broken after the 1.2.1 upgrade?  BTW, doing more testing, I tried
 eliminating the Radius server and used local authentication.  The same exact
 errors appear, so it does not seem to be a problem with the radius setup.


Not sure, I did look at the PPTP server last night and didn't have any
trouble at all.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:
 I also noticed that when I save the config, it shows the PPTP server address
 as 0.0.0.0 in the log, even though I clearly have the WAN IP address in that
 field.

There's at least one problem, that has to be an IP on your LAN,
assuming you're putting the PPTP clients on your LAN subnet.  I don't
know how that ever could have worked.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-07 Thread Christopher Iarocci
 in that
field.  Here is a snippit of that..


Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt15] using interface ng16
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt15] ppp node is mpd57834-pt15
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt14] using interface ng15
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt14] ppp node is mpd57834-pt14
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt13] using interface ng14
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt13] ppp node is mpd57834-pt13
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt12] using interface ng13
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt12] ppp node is mpd57834-pt12
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt11] using interface ng12
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt11] ppp node is mpd57834-pt11
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt10] using interface ng11
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt10] ppp node is mpd57834-pt10
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt9] using interface ng10
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt9] ppp node is mpd57834-pt9
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt8] using interface ng9
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt8] ppp node is mpd57834-pt8
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt7] using interface ng8
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt7] ppp node is mpd57834-pt7
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt6] using interface ng7
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt6] ppp node is mpd57834-pt6
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt5] using interface ng6
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt5] ppp node is mpd57834-pt5
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt4] using interface ng5
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt4] ppp node is mpd57834-pt4
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt3] using interface ng4
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt3] ppp node is mpd57834-pt3
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt2] using interface ng3
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt2] ppp node is mpd57834-pt2
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt1] using interface ng2
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt1] ppp node is mpd57834-pt1
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt0] using interface ng1
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: mpd: local IP address for PPTP is 0.0.0.0
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: [pt0] ppp node is mpd57834-pt0
Jan 7 19:26:28  mpd: mpd: pid 57834, version 3.18
(r...@freebsd7-releng_1_2.pfsense.org 20:18 9-Nov-2008)

Any help would be appreciated as I'm at a loss as to why it worked perfectly
under 1.2 but not under 1.2.1 with the same config.

Christopher Iarocci
Network Solutions Manager
Twin Forks Office Products
631-727-3354

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From: Morgan Reed [mailto:morgan.s.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:27 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

Hi all,

  We've a multi-WAN setup on our pfSense (no redundancy or load
balancing, one is dedicated to office internet traffic, the other is
dedicated to inbound server traffic), just wondering if it's possible
to setup pfSense so we can accept PPTP in on either WAN link (that way
if the main link is down we can come in the backup and vice versa).

pfSense is our PPTP server, and it authenticates against our Windows
2000 AD via RADIUS/IAS if that makes any difference.

I've added a firewall rule to allow 1723 in on WAN2 but there appears
to be something else required as my connection attempts timeout at
authentication (I've been able to connect PPTP to the WAN2 interface
from inside the office with no trouble so I assume that means that the
PPTP daemon listens on all interfaces) I recall PPTP also uses IP
Proto 47 (GRE), do I need to add a rule to allow that traffic on WAN2?

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Morgan

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-07 Thread Morgan Reed
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net wrote:
 I have a single WAN setup and PPTP has been broken since I upgraded to
 1.2.1.  In version 1.2 it worked perfectly.  I've tried changing settings
 and putting them back, but it continues to fail at the authentication
 process as you've described.  I have the same setup as you, a W2K3 server
 acting as radius and the PFSense machine acting as the PPTP server.  Anyone
 else notice that PPTP has broken since 1.2.1 upgrade?  Here is a snippit of
 my logs

Apparently there are three major bugs being fixed in 1.2.2, this may
be one of them.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Morgan Reed morgan.s.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Christopher Iarocci ciaro...@tfop.net 
 wrote:
 I have a single WAN setup and PPTP has been broken since I upgraded to
 1.2.1.  In version 1.2 it worked perfectly.  I've tried changing settings
 and putting them back, but it continues to fail at the authentication
 process as you've described.  I have the same setup as you, a W2K3 server
 acting as radius and the PFSense machine acting as the PPTP server.  Anyone
 else notice that PPTP has broken since 1.2.1 upgrade?  Here is a snippit of
 my logs

 Apparently there are three major bugs being fixed in 1.2.2, this may
 be one of them.


They aren't major, aside from the setup wizard issue they're rare edge
cases or minor things. PPTP isn't one.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-07 Thread Morgan Reed
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Chris Buechler cbuech...@gmail.com wrote:
 They aren't major, aside from the setup wizard issue they're rare edge
 cases or minor things. PPTP isn't one.

*shrug* commenting based on what I've seen about the place, admittedly
I haven't actually read the changelog...

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[pfSense Support] Multi-WAN PPTP?

2009-01-05 Thread Morgan Reed
Hi all,

  We've a multi-WAN setup on our pfSense (no redundancy or load
balancing, one is dedicated to office internet traffic, the other is
dedicated to inbound server traffic), just wondering if it's possible
to setup pfSense so we can accept PPTP in on either WAN link (that way
if the main link is down we can come in the backup and vice versa).

pfSense is our PPTP server, and it authenticates against our Windows
2000 AD via RADIUS/IAS if that makes any difference.

I've added a firewall rule to allow 1723 in on WAN2 but there appears
to be something else required as my connection attempts timeout at
authentication (I've been able to connect PPTP to the WAN2 interface
from inside the office with no trouble so I assume that means that the
PPTP daemon listens on all interfaces) I recall PPTP also uses IP
Proto 47 (GRE), do I need to add a rule to allow that traffic on WAN2?

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Morgan

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