Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 07:46:05PM -0400, Larry Sampas wrote: The newer Supermicro Atom boards have Intel GB NICs. They also go to 4 GB of ram. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182237cm_re=atom_d510_supermicro-_-13-182-237-_-Product I'm using them (with SSDs) and I like them. Haven't made a throughput test however. I run ALIX on my DOCSYS 3.0 (a Cisco, 6/100 MBit/s) at home, which is adequate. I've had great luck so far with mine on pfSense 2 beta, but I have only 20 mbps down from cable. Netflix streaming works fine. I wanted the rackmount, Newegg's combo deal for a mini tower was compelling on price. Also running Snort on two interfaces, using jumbo frames on the inside w/GB enet. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
On 01/09/10 16:00, Michael Riglin wrote: options, I wanted to ask the list for any experience-based recommendations on low power consumption appliances for purchase that have enough CPU power to support 100 Mbps and above. (Quality and future-proofing is more important than cost.) the jetway atom board system I built has been very robust, the onboard realtek is disabled and I used the jetway module which offers three Intel gigabit nics: http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12576 that page lists the compatible motherboards J7F2 J7F3 JNC92 J7F5 JNF76 I have the JNC92-330-LF with dual core atom 330, but there might be a new board out some time which offers more recent atoms more photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/12629...@n05/sets/72157623416008565/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
This place does a two-in-one unit: http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-pfsense-dual-19-appliance.html http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-pfsense-dual-19-appliance.htmlI'm not affiliated with applianceshop. On 1 September 2010 18:51, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: - Tonix (Antonio Nati) to...@interazioni.it wrote: Is there any case which can contain two motherboards and two power supplies? It would be nice hTo have one 1U case with clustered pfsense inside. Travla makes the T1200 which holds 2x Mini-itx boards with independent PSUs: http://www.travla.com/product_d.php?id=16 --Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
Looking at the specs I'd say there are 2 Alix boards in that appliance. According to the hardware sizing document (http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Hardware_requirements) you are going to need something in excess of 700Mhz to handle the full throughput, more if you start using VPNs and plugins. Perhaps something atom based? http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ps_fw101b (No I don't work for logic supply). Regards, Duncan On 2/09/2010 7:12 PM, Jonathan Marriott wrote: This place does a two-in-one unit: http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-pfsense-dual-19-appliance.html http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-pfsense-dual-19-appliance.htmlI'm not affiliated with applianceshop. On 1 September 2010 18:51, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: - Tonix (Antonio Nati) to...@interazioni.it mailto:to...@interazioni.it wrote: Is there any case which can contain two motherboards and two power supplies? It would be nice hTo have one 1U case with clustered pfsense inside. Travla makes the T1200 which holds 2x Mini-itx boards with independent PSUs: http://www.travla.com/product_d.php?id=16 --Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com mailto:support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com mailto:support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
not pushing appliance shop either but browsing thru their products they did have a GHz edition of same dual setup -Original Message- From: Duncan Hall Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:28 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service Looking at the specs I'd say there are 2 Alix boards in that appliance. According to the hardware sizing document (http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Hardware_requirements) you are going to need something in excess of 700Mhz to handle the full throughput, more if you start using VPNs and plugins. Perhaps something atom based? http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ps_fw101b (No I don't work for logic supply). Regards, Duncan On 2/09/2010 7:12 PM, Jonathan Marriott wrote: This place does a two-in-one unit: http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-pfsense-dual-19-appliance.html http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-pfsense-dual-19-appliance.htmlI'm not affiliated with applianceshop. On 1 September 2010 18:51, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: - Tonix (Antonio Nati) to...@interazioni.it mailto:to...@interazioni.it wrote: Is there any case which can contain two motherboards and two power supplies? It would be nice hTo have one 1U case with clustered pfsense inside. Travla makes the T1200 which holds 2x Mini-itx boards with independent PSUs: http://www.travla.com/product_d.php?id=16 --Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com mailto:support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com mailto:support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Another good box might be something like:- http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12711 Http://linitx.com is a good source for these kind of units and also has Duel Motherboard Chassis as well. http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11041 They also have a section on the store for Firewalls:- http://linitx.com/viewcategory.php?catid=79pp=79 - -- Gavin Spurgeon. AKA Da Geek - -- The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes along their way.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx/tH0ACgkQvp6arS3vDiquQACePTXC+hAua+M0KyCXipE1l90V lxsAn1eG3rPdQqNVR4Cuhb/z/vcAQWGA =4Ffn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- This message was scanned by DaGeek Spam Filter and is believed to be clean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
- Original Message - From: Gavin Spurgeon Sent: 09/02/10 10:28 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service Another good box might be something like:- http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12711 Http://linitx.com is a good source for these kind of units and also has Duel Motherboard Chassis as well. http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11041 They also have a section on the store for Firewalls:- http://linitx.com/viewcategory.php?catid=79pp=79 - -- Gavin Spurgeon. AKA Da Geek Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org The rackmount http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11041 does look very good, I like the front NICs. I am in the US and shipping is much more reasonable with a US based supplier. http://nw-ds.com/shop/firewalls.html They sell rackmount unit with pfSense preinstalled but the NICs are in the back.
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
- lee hall lee.h...@gmx.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Gavin Spurgeon Sent: 09/02/10 10:28 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service Another good box might be something like:- http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12711 Http://linitx.com is a good source for these kind of units and also has Duel Motherboard Chassis as well. http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11041 They also have a section on the store for Firewalls:- http://linitx.com/viewcategory.php?catid=79pp=79 - -- Gavin Spurgeon. AKA Da Geek Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org The rackmount http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11041 does look very good, I like the front NICs. I am in the US and shipping is much more reasonable with a US based supplier. http://nw-ds.com/shop/firewalls.html They sell rackmount unit with pfSense preinstalled but the NICs are in the back. shamelessplug LinuxAppliance.net also has pfSense firewall options, shipping from the U.S. /shamelessplug --Tim
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
shamelessplug LinuxAppliance.net also has pfSense firewall options, shipping from the U.S. /shamelessplug --Tim Tim, Thanks for the shamelessplug, I have bookmarked your site. Contacting you off the board, as I have questions about the other firewall software you carry. What do you think of Vyatta and Untangled? I came from using m0n0wall so naturally recommend pfSense to my clients, but wanted to know if you think either of the others are better. Lee
RE: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
Contacting you off the board, as I have questions about the other firewall software you carry. What do you think of Vyatta and Untangled? I came from using m0n0wall so naturally recommend pfSense to my clients, but wanted to know if you think either of the others are better. I use both pfSense and Untangled on my sites. I can't give up pfSense for the power it has as a multi-network router/firewall. I really haven't come across anything that can come close. However, Untangle is a great platform as a UTM - it's dang simple to install, and the reporting is great to keep on file, and easily readable for HR etc.. I tried Vyatta for a week (and gave Endian a try too) and there were no features that I used that trumped pfSense.
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
On 9/1/2010 12:17 PM, Jeppe Øland wrote: I did a similar speed upgrade to find my trusty old WRAP capped out at like 15 mbit. What I ended up getting was a mini-ITX enclosure/PSU: http://www.mini-box.com/M350-enclosure-with-picoPSU-80-and-60W-adapter Supermicro X7SPA-H motherboard (It's fanless, so quiet and reliable): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182233nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Server-_-SuperMicro-_-13182233 And of course some RAM. That thing isn't even breaking a sweat saturating the connection, and power usage was something like 18 watts if I remember correctly. Regards, -Jeppe Try one of these. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.489867 --Curtis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
You can check this : http://www.osnet.eu/en/content/firewall-fwa-3035s Actually there is a fwa-3035l (not yet sold), which might interest you… I'll send you off list the specs, It runs on low voltage and might suite your needs. Thanks. Le 1 sept. 2010 à 17:00, Michael Riglin a écrit : Christmas came early this year, and I am moving to the new DOCSIS 3.0 service that is available from my ISP. This new service will provide a 100/5 Mbps service which is a nice upgrade from the 15/1 Mbps service that I currently have in place. Unfortunately, the reliable ALIX appliances I have used to run pfSense will not support the full downstream bandwidth of this new service. The ALIX model I have currently use is the ALIX2D3 which use the AMD Geode LX800 500 MHz chip and is not quite beefy enough for the full 100 Mbps unfortunately. So, I need to seek out a new ALIX-like appliance to purchase, or I have to build a new mini-ITX box to get the full capabilities of the connection. Before I research the best custom mini-ITX system build options, I wanted to ask the list for any experience-based recommendations on low power consumption appliances for purchase that have enough CPU power to support 100 Mbps and above. (Quality and future-proofing is more important than cost.) Thanks in advance to anyone who replies. Best regards, Michael Service link, in case there is an interest: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/Nitro/ Gregober --- PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
On 9/2/2010 11:42 AM, Tim Dickson wrote: Contacting you off the board, as I have questions about the other firewall software you carry. What do you think of Vyatta and Untangled? I came from using m0n0wall so naturally recommend pfSense to my clients, but wanted to know if you think either of the others are better. I use both pfSense and Untangled on my sites. I can't give up pfSense for the power it has as a multi-network router/firewall. I really haven't come across anything that can come close. However, Untangle is a great platform as a UTM - it's dang simple to install, and the reporting is great to keep on file, and easily readable for HR etc.. I tried Vyatta for a week (and gave Endian a try too) and there were no features that I used that trumped pfSense. I found one Vyatta feature that trumped pfsense where I am. the ability to route VPN via a secondary address/lan on one of the NIC's. I could not make that happen w/pfsense. Otherwise I would be using it, here. In another location that I'm responsible for, I have it running quite nicely. I really like the road-warrior IPSEC abilities that Vyatta doesn't have. --Curtis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
On 9/2/2010 12:03 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote: I found one Vyatta feature that trumped pfsense where I am. the ability to route VPN via a secondary address/lan on one of the NIC's. I could not make that happen w/pfsense. Otherwise I would be using it, here. In another location that I'm responsible for, I have it running quite nicely. I really like the road-warrior IPSEC abilities that Vyatta doesn't have. That should be possible by putting local x.x.x.x; in the config where x.x.x.x is your LAN or internal IP, and by making sure you have a static route to the other endpoint that leads out a local gateway. In 2.0 you can pick any interface (even LAN) to run an OpenVPN instance on. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
RE: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
Hi all, Apart from the Realtek onboard NICs (2x1000Mbps), this looks nice for a non-rackmounted option built around a dual core Atom 330 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856115033 -- Steve -Original Message- From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:21 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service On 9/2/2010 12:03 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote: I found one Vyatta feature that trumped pfsense where I am. the ability to route VPN via a secondary address/lan on one of the NIC's. I could not make that happen w/pfsense. Otherwise I would be using it, here. In another location that I'm responsible for, I have it running quite nicely. I really like the road-warrior IPSEC abilities that Vyatta doesn't have. That should be possible by putting local x.x.x.x; in the config where x.x.x.x is your LAN or internal IP, and by making sure you have a static route to the other endpoint that leads out a local gateway. In 2.0 you can pick any interface (even LAN) to run an OpenVPN instance on. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
RE: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
There's a nice Nokia ip530 for sale in the hardware section of the pfSense forum. Not affiliated, but a happy owner/user. From: Michael Riglin [mailto:michael.rig...@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:00 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service Christmas came early this year, and I am moving to the new DOCSIS 3.0 service that is available from my ISP. This new service will provide a 100/5 Mbps service which is a nice upgrade from the 15/1 Mbps service that I currently have in place. Unfortunately, the reliable ALIX appliances I have used to run pfSense will not support the full downstream bandwidth of this new service. The ALIX model I have currently use is the ALIX2D3 which use the AMD Geode LX800 500 MHz chip and is not quite beefy enough for the full 100 Mbps unfortunately. So, I need to seek out a new ALIX-like appliance to purchase, or I have to build a new mini-ITX box to get the full capabilities of the connection. Before I research the best custom mini-ITX system build options, I wanted to ask the list for any experience-based recommendations on low power consumption appliances for purchase that have enough CPU power to support 100 Mbps and above. (Quality and future-proofing is more important than cost.) Thanks in advance to anyone who replies. Best regards, Michael Service link, in case there is an interest: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/Nitro/
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
Hi, Op 1-9-2010 17:00, Michael Riglin schreef: have enough CPU power to support 100 Mbps and above. (Quality and future-proofing is more important than cost.) Well, if you search the forum for the Lanner FW7535 you should be able to find the benchmarks. This firewall platform is sold with either a single or dual core atom N410 or N510 respectively. The price is hefty though at about 600 euros without taxes. You do get a 6 gigabit port firewall that can do 480Mbps in one direction or 210 in both. You can add either a CF or a 2.5 inch notebook disk for installing pfSense. I'm pretty sure that there are way cheaper mini itx boards with dual gig ports and a atom processor. I saw a mini itx case with power supply for 59 euros. Alternatively a mini itx with a single gig port and a managed vlan switch like the Procurve 1810G-8 would still be cheaper alltogether and give you a nice gigabit lan switch in the process. Regards, Seth Thanks in advance to anyone who replies. Best regards, Michael Service link, in case there is an interest: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/Nitro/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
Is there any case which can contain two motherboards and two power supplies? It would be nice hTo have one 1U case with clustered pfsense inside. Regards, Tonino Jeppe Øland ha scritto: I did a similar speed upgrade to find my trusty old WRAP capped out at like 15 mbit. What I ended up getting was a mini-ITX enclosure/PSU: http://www.mini-box.com/M350-enclosure-with-picoPSU-80-and-60W-adapter Supermicro X7SPA-H motherboard (It's fanless, so quiet and reliable): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182233nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Server-_-SuperMicro-_-13182233 And of course some RAM. That thing isn't even breaking a sweat saturating the connection, and power usage was something like 18 watts if I remember correctly. Regards, -Jeppe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org -- in...@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:17 AM, stephen at stephenjc step...@stephenjc.com wrote: Supermicro twin is like that but they share a ps. I was going to suggest that it wouldn't be hard to modify a SM twin to use dual independent PicoPSU or M4-ATX or the like, but it appears the twins are all Xeon models, and perhaps a little power-hungry for DC power supplies. Anybody know otherwise? db - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Appliance Recommendation for 100 Mbps (DOCSIS 3.0) Service
- Tonix (Antonio Nati) to...@interazioni.it wrote: Is there any case which can contain two motherboards and two power supplies? It would be nice hTo have one 1U case with clustered pfsense inside. Travla makes the T1200 which holds 2x Mini-itx boards with independent PSUs: http://www.travla.com/product_d.php?id=16 --Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
