Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Randy B

I've run with as many as 7 interfaces - one SIS, one dual fxp, and one
quad fxp; no issues there.  However, I've not done that on 1.0

On 10/24/06, Rudi Potgieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi All

Does pfsense have a problem using 4 nics?  Whenever I install a fourth in
the machine, one of the nics (usually opt1 or opt2) conflict
with the LAN interface.  When starting up pfsense, there is an asterisk next
to LAN* and OPT1(OPT1)* ?  And if LAN interface is up, then
OPT1 interface is up as well even though no cable plugged in.  When the pc
starts up each network controller is using its own irq.

Any help.

Thanx

Rudi


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RE: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Tim Dickson
Been running 4 NICS for 8 months now... I am up to the 1.0 release
I am using the xl driver.
(there is actually a fifth that is not in use right now)
Might I recommend turning off everything you are not using in the BIOS
and then reinstalling.  
-Tim

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From: Randy B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:20 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

I've run with as many as 7 interfaces - one SIS, one dual fxp, and one
quad fxp; no issues there.  However, I've not done that on 1.0

On 10/24/06, Rudi Potgieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Does pfsense have a problem using 4 nics?  Whenever I install a fourth
in
> the machine, one of the nics (usually opt1 or opt2) conflict
> with the LAN interface.  When starting up pfsense, there is an
asterisk next
> to LAN* and OPT1(OPT1)* ?  And if LAN interface is up, then
> OPT1 interface is up as well even though no cable plugged in.  When
the pc
> starts up each network controller is using its own irq.
>
> Any help.
>
> Thanx
>
> Rudi

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RE: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Holger Bauer
I have several systems with up to 6 nics that I use for testing or at customers 
sites. In general there is no problem. The nics in use for this are intel, 
realtek, 3com (no mix, each system has either the one or the other). Sounds to 
me like some kind of hardwareproblems.

Holger

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> Been running 4 NICS for 8 months now... I am up to the 1.0 release
> I am using the xl driver.
> (there is actually a fifth that is not in use right now)
> Might I recommend turning off everything you are not using in the BIOS
> and then reinstalling.  
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Randy B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:20 AM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?
> 
> I've run with as many as 7 interfaces - one SIS, one dual fxp, and one
> quad fxp; no issues there.  However, I've not done that on 1.0
> 
> On 10/24/06, Rudi Potgieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Does pfsense have a problem using 4 nics?  Whenever I 
> install a fourth
> in
> > the machine, one of the nics (usually opt1 or opt2) conflict
> > with the LAN interface.  When starting up pfsense, there is an
> asterisk next
> > to LAN* and OPT1(OPT1)* ?  And if LAN interface is up, then
> > OPT1 interface is up as well even though no cable plugged in.  When
> the pc
> > starts up each network controller is using its own irq.
> >
> > Any help.
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> > Rudi
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RE: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread rrobertson
Title: Message



I run three intel dual cards in mine, total of six 
ports. I like Holger's advice, too - I've always made it practice to match 
all the NICs in a system whenever possible. Be careful that adding the fourth 
NIC isn't causing the system to reorder the cards, too - if so, it would be easy 
to have the one you *believe* to be OPT1 from prior experience now be (for 
example) OPT2 when the system has re-ordered things. The card showing active 
with a * might very well be the "new" OPT1. I've seen this happen before, 
particularly when mixing and matching NIC types.


From: Rudi Potgieter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:09 AMTo: 
support@pfsense.comSubject: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 
nics?

Hi 
All
 
Does pfsense have a 
problem using 4 nics?  Whenever I install a fourth in the machine, one of 
the nics (usually opt1 or opt2) conflict
with the LAN 
interface.  When starting up pfsense, there is an asterisk next to LAN* and 
OPT1(OPT1)* ?  And if LAN interface is up, then 
OPT1 interface is 
up as well even though no cable plugged in.  When the pc starts up each 
network controller is using its own irq.
 
Any 
help.
 
Thanx
 
Rudi


RE: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Ted Crow
Title: Message



I have 
been running 6 nics for quite some time in a a production environment.  I 
performed a successful experiment running 11 nics a while back in the early 
alpha days to see if pfSense could handle it, and it passed with flying 
colors.
 
I'd also 
recommend sticking with a single brand of nic. For the moment, 
I prefer Intel nics (vlan & polling support, yay!).  I seem 
to remember having an issue with a test box running an oddball LOM in 
combination with an Intel quad card.
 
Ted Crow
MCP/W2K
Information Technology 
Manager
Tuttle Services, 
Inc.
(419) 228-6262 x 247
 


From: Rudi Potgieter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:09 AMTo: 
support@pfsense.comSubject: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 
nics?

Hi 
All
 
Does pfsense have a 
problem using 4 nics?  Whenever I install a fourth in the machine, one of 
the nics (usually opt1 or opt2) conflict
with the LAN 
interface.  When starting up pfsense, there is an asterisk next to LAN* and 
OPT1(OPT1)* ?  And if LAN interface is up, then 
OPT1 interface is 
up as well even though no cable plugged in.  When the pc starts up each 
network controller is using its own irq.
 
Any 
help.
 
Thanx
 
Rudi


Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Bill Marquette

On 10/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I run three intel dual cards in mine, total of six ports. I like Holger's
advice, too - I've always made it practice to match all the NICs in a system
whenever possible. Be careful that adding the fourth NIC isn't causing the
system to reorder the cards, too - if so, it would be easy to have the one
you *believe* to be OPT1 from prior experience now be (for example) OPT2
when the system has re-ordered things. The card showing active with a *
might very well be the "new" OPT1. I've seen this happen before,
particularly when mixing and matching NIC types.


Bus order is what changes the order here.  It's certainly possible to
have em0 be em1 after inserting another em card in the machine.  Be
thankful that BSD actually identifies the chipset here...I find it
impossible to figure out wth happened in linux when adding/removing
nics (and dmesg is useless when trying to figure out just what eth0
actually is).

--Bill

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Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Curtis Maurand

On linux ifconfig will give you the MAC address.  That should be unique
enough for you to figure out what is what.

Bill Marquette wrote:
> On 10/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I run three intel dual cards in mine, total of six ports. I like Holger's
>> advice, too - I've always made it practice to match all the NICs in a
>> system
>> whenever possible. Be careful that adding the fourth NIC isn't causing
>> the
>> system to reorder the cards, too - if so, it would be easy to have the
>> one
>> you *believe* to be OPT1 from prior experience now be (for example) OPT2
>> when the system has re-ordered things. The card showing active with a *
>> might very well be the "new" OPT1. I've seen this happen before,
>> particularly when mixing and matching NIC types.
> 
> Bus order is what changes the order here.  It's certainly possible to
> have em0 be em1 after inserting another em card in the machine.  Be
> thankful that BSD actually identifies the chipset here...I find it
> impossible to figure out wth happened in linux when adding/removing
> nics (and dmesg is useless when trying to figure out just what eth0
> actually is).
> 
> --Bill
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Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Robert Goley

> Bus order is what changes the order here.  It's certainly possible to
> have em0 be em1 after inserting another em card in the machine.  Be
> thankful that BSD actually identifies the chipset here...I find it
> impossible to figure out wth happened in linux when adding/removing
> nics (and dmesg is useless when trying to figure out just what eth0
> actually is).
>
This can be corrected using udev and setting ethx based on the MAC address of 
the NICs.  Then they are consistent even adding and removing hardware.  Does 
BSD have an equivalent functionality?  Not trying to bring up a BSD/Linux 
flame war, just want to know.  Linux will autoassign or allow setting these 
to specific NICs.  Does BSD have the forced assignment capabilities?

Robert

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Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Bill Marquette

On 10/24/06, Robert Goley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Bus order is what changes the order here.  It's certainly possible to
> have em0 be em1 after inserting another em card in the machine.  Be
> thankful that BSD actually identifies the chipset here...I find it
> impossible to figure out wth happened in linux when adding/removing
> nics (and dmesg is useless when trying to figure out just what eth0
> actually is).
>
This can be corrected using udev and setting ethx based on the MAC address of
the NICs.  Then they are consistent even adding and removing hardware.  Does


Interesting, hadn't heard of that ability.  Thanks, filed away for
future reference (of note, the last kernel I spent any real time on
was 2.2although I have fiddled with newer released, just never
cared for linux after finding my bsd calling ;))


BSD have an equivalent functionality?  Not trying to bring up a BSD/Linux
flame war, just want to know.  Linux will autoassign or allow setting these
to specific NICs.  Does BSD have the forced assignment capabilities?


If you know the IO addresses you might be able to assign them in
config(8) or in the kernel config file.

--Bill

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Re: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Bill Marquette

On 10/24/06, Curtis Maurand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On linux ifconfig will give you the MAC address.  That should be unique
enough for you to figure out what is what.


True...assuming you know the mac of the nic.  Straight up dmesg
showing that Intel nic 1 is eth0 and realcrap nic 1 is eth1 would be
nicer than figuring out that 00:07:e9:10:d7:e4 is an Intel mac so
there for must be the Intel nic.

At any rate, we stray a hair from the subject. :)

--Bill

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RE: [pfSense Support] pfsense using 4 nics?

2006-10-24 Thread Rudi Potgieter
Title: Message








All the NICs are the same.  Disabled
everything in the bios I don’t need and reinstalled with all 4 NICs
installed, but still same problem.  Removed all cables except for LAN and
OPT1 was still up.  I actually had the same problem on another box with
built in lan and 3 pci slots.  The 3rd pci slot always had the
same irq as the onboard lan and couldn’t get it to work.  Got it up
and running now.  All 4 NICs working, but still shows OPT1 up when I
removed the cable.  When I remove LAN cable OPT1 is down as well as
LAN.  But hey … it works so I’m happy.  Thanx everyone.

 









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I run three intel dual cards in mine,
total of six ports. I like Holger's advice, too - I've always made it
practice to match all the NICs in a system whenever possible. Be careful that
adding the fourth NIC isn't causing the system to reorder the cards, too - if
so, it would be easy to have the one you *believe* to be OPT1 from prior
experience now be (for example) OPT2 when the system has re-ordered things. The
card showing active with a * might very well be the "new" OPT1. I've
seen this happen before, particularly when mixing and matching NIC types.

 







From:
Rudi Potgieter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006
6:09 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: [pfSense Support] pfsense
using 4 nics?



Hi All





 





Does pfsense have a problem using 4 nics?  Whenever I
install a fourth in the machine, one of the nics (usually opt1 or opt2)
conflict





with the LAN interface.  When starting up pfsense,
there is an asterisk next to LAN* and OPT1(OPT1)* ?  And if LAN interface
is up, then 





OPT1 interface is up as well even though no cable plugged
in.  When the pc starts up each network controller is using its own irq.





 





Any help.





 





Thanx





 





Rudi














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