Re: [WISH] An idea for a future built-in translator.

2010-01-06 Thread David Woolley

Kristoffer Grundström wrote:

My idea is that Pidgin could have a built-in script or function that 
doesn't really needs to be enabled to work that translates the incoming 
text into YOUR language  the same back to the other person  the script 


That pre-supposes an open source machine translator.  I'm not aware of 
any such project.  Machine translation, even between Western European 
languages is a difficult problem and may well be beyond the resources of 
any reasonable open source development project, which will have to 
re-invent a lot of the work done for proprietary programs.


would also recognize if this text is written like a document or letter 
or just a plain conversation so that the text will turn out correct when 
translated. I know that it's a big project, but think a bit.


If a person writes in their native language to you and you don't understand.
If you want this text translated you have to spend time after time after 
time after.you know the drill..to find what that particular 
word or sentence means if you DO find it.


What might be possible would be the facility to look up individual words 
 in a dictionary, but maintaining those dictionaries would have to be a 
project in its own right.  Dictionaries require a lot of work to 
compile, and you cannot use existing dictionaries in the process, 
because that would infringe on the dictionary compilers' copyrights. 
CEDICT has existed for some time, but only gives the translation, with 
no explanation on usage, and is missing many words.



Google translate doesn't translate whole sentences correctly since many 
words can mean many things.


Most words have multiple meanings!  Google and Babelfish will have cost 
a lot to develop (they may be based on commercial, standalone, 
products).  They do not translate word for word, but the fact that they 
are still produce very bad translations demonstrates how difficult the 
problem is for someone with lots of commercial resources, including the 
ability to licence existing dictionary data.




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Google talk vs Pidgin

2010-01-06 Thread William Basser
I have Pidgin installed on a laptop, when I run away from the corporate
network, I get connection to the server with no problem.  However, on the
company network, no connection.  Google Talk on the other hand has no
problem connecting in either location?  Am I missing something here?  I have
tried various proxy settings but no avail.  Internet Explorer also has a box
checked that says detect proxy settings automatically. The same as Google
Talk.  I would like to use one IM tool since our company uses Sametime
internally.

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this.
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Problem with regular disconnects

2010-01-06 Thread Jaldora Kyor
I'm not certain- this may be covered by ticket #10744.
http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/10744

 

Basically, what happens is that connections die and reconnect. I am
currently (and regularly) connected to five separate services- MSN, two AIM
accounts, and two separate IRC servers. On a regular basis, (between thirty
and ninety minutes) connections disconnect and then require reconnection.
They do not disconnect concurrently; one MSN account may disconnect and
reconnect while the other is working, and then the other will
disconnect/reconnect forty (or whatever) minutes later. This occurs
regardless of internet access; when I take my laptop to work, or to a coffee
shop, identical behaviour occurs.

 

This behaviour occurs regularly, regardless of service. 

 

I am running Pidgin 2.6.4 on Windows 7 Release Candidate, with the following
plugins on:

 

Buddy State Notification 2.6.4

History 2.6.4

I'dle Mak'er 2.6.4

IRC Helper 2.5.1

IRC More 2.5.1

Log Reader 2.6.4

Message Notification 2.6.4

Off-The-Record Messaging 3.2.0

Pidgin GTK+ Theme Control 2.6.4

Psychic Mode 2.6.4

Release Notification 2.6.4

Text Replacement 2.6.4

Windows Pidgin Options 2.6.4

 

I am also running Avast antivirus and the standard Windows firewall. 

 

Oddly, this behaviour only began fairly recently- specifically, December 25,
2009. There was, in fact, a hardware change at that time- I changed from a
large (approximately USB-drive sized) Bluetooth dongle to a micro-USB
Bluetooth dongle. However, in testing I have removed that dongle and rolled
back driver updates pertaining to it and it does not change the current
behaviour.

 

An example (typical) debug log of this behaviour is as follows:

 

(10:34:14) oscar: Scheduling destruction of FLAP connection of type 0x0002

(10:34:14) oscar: Destroying oscar connection of type 0x0002.  Disconnect
reason is 4

(10:34:14) oscar: Disconnected.  Code is 0x and msg is Connection
interrupted by other software on your computer.

(10:34:14) connection: Connection error on 067D0788 (reason: 0 description:
Lost connection with server: Connection interrupted by other software on
your computer.)

(10:34:14) account: Disconnecting account Acountname (0206C240)

(10:34:14) connection: Disconnecting connection 067D0788

(10:34:14) connection: Deactivating keepalive.

(10:34:14) oscar: Destroying oscar connection of type 0x0010.  Disconnect
reason is 0

(10:34:14) oscar: Disconnected.  Code is 0x and msg is 

(10:34:14) oscar: Destroying oscar connection of type 0x0018.  Disconnect
reason is 0

(10:34:14) oscar: Disconnected.  Code is 0x and msg is 

(10:34:14) oscar: Destroying oscar connection of type 0x000d.  Disconnect
reason is 0

(10:34:14) oscar: Disconnected.  Code is 0x and msg is 

(10:34:14) oscar: Signed off.

(10:34:14) connection: Destroying connection 067D0788

 

I am wondering if anyone else has any suggestions- I seem to be at my wit's
end.

 

-Jaldora Kyor

 

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Buddy Names show twice in Pidgin window

2010-01-06 Thread Betty Garrison
Buddy names appear twice in the Pidgin window.
 
Tried removing plugins one by one.  No luck.  Using Pidgin 2.6.4
 
Tried searching for a fix on Pidgin website and other sites.  No luck.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Betty

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Re: Buddy Names show twice in Pidgin window

2010-01-06 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/6/2010 11:57 AM, Betty Garrison wrote:
 Buddy names appear twice in the Pidgin window.
  
 Tried removing plugins one by one.  No luck.  Using Pidgin 2.6.4
  
 Tried searching for a fix on Pidgin website and other sites.  No luck.
  
 Any suggestions?
  
 Thanks,
 Betty
 
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Do you have your contacts expanded?

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Re: Buddy Names show twice in Pidgin window

2010-01-06 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/6/2010 12:03 PM, Betty Garrison wrote:
 I have the buddy names expanded in the window.  is that the same thing?



On 1/6/2010 12:04 PM, Betty Garrison wrote:
 like under Buddy names/Show/Buddy details
snip

Keep all replies going to the list. I have it sent to you as well
because I don't know if you're subscribed.

No, that just makes the contacts bigger and shows buddy icons to the
right of their name. Here is a screen shot of what I am talking
about[0]. The first contact (as indicated by the black text) isn't
expanded and only shows the name once (blocked out for privacy). The
second contact (as indicated by the red text) is expanded and will show
the name twice. To disable that for your users, go to each user, right
click on them, and select collapse. If that isn't what your list looks
like, then I'm not sure what's up.

[0]:
http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/help-images/expanded-vs-nonexpanded.png

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Re: Buddy Names show twice in Pidgin window

2010-01-06 Thread Daniel Atallah
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 15:33, Betty Garrison bgarri...@elon.edu wrote:
 I wish it was as simple as collapsing or expanding the name, but it's not.  
 This has happened to us before, I just can't remember how we fixed it.
 The list of buddies has everyone's buddy name twice, exact duplicates one 
 after the other.  If anyone knows of a fix, that would be helpful.  Just kind 
 of annoying, it doesn't bother the function.

Do you have the same buddies in several accounts?

Which protocol do you see this happen with?

-D

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The 2010 Reader's Choice Awards on About.com

2010-01-06 Thread Brandon De Hoyos
Dear Pidgin:

For the third year, About.com is hosting the Reader's Choice Awards, honoring 
the year's best
in technology, including the best IM clients in the industry.

Now through midnight EST, on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, we are accepting 
nominations through
our easy-to-use nominations form (located at 
http://im.about.com/library/blnominate.htm) in the following categories:
  a.. Best IM Client Overall 
  b.. Best Third-Party IM Client 
  c.. Best Mac IM Client 
  d.. Best Mobile IM Client 
  e.. Best IM Feature 
  f.. Best Chat Rooms on IM 
  g.. Best IM Design 
  h.. Developers of the Year (IM)

  We invite you to tell your fellow developers, associates and users to vote! 
The top five nominees in each category will go on to the voting phase beginning 
February 1.

  Winners in each category will be given featured Essentials placement for one 
year on http://im.about.com, in addition to all the bragging rights among the 
IM community.

May the best IM win!

Brandon De Hoyos 
Guide to IM 
About.com | Guidance. Not Guesswork. 
  
C: 832.352.8617 

IM (All Networks): Brandon4IMHelp



About.com is part of The New York Times Company

Brandon De Hoyos 
Guide to IM 
About.com | Guidance. Not Guesswork. 
  
C: 832.352.8617 

IM (All Networks): Brandon4IMHelp



About.com is part of The New York Times Company
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pidgin with bonjour on fedora6

2010-01-06 Thread Sandeep Kumar

Hi All,
 I am trying to install pidgin 6.2.4 on fedora6. I have copied 
pidgin.repo to /etc/yum/.repos.d. But i am getting the following error.


Loading installonlyn plugin
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Could not retrieve mirrorlist 
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=core-6arch=i386 error was

[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core

This is offtopic, but would appreciate any help on this.

Thanks,
Sandeep.

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