Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Les Fenison
  

Is it even a good idea to run pidgin on multiple machines logged
into the same facebook account at the same time? 

Not only am I seeing
data missing from one machine or the other but also it seems to be very
confused as to if people are online or offline. The system that i was
complaining about that was missing data, shows my buddy as being offline
and he has been for 6 hours. Facebook and my mobile devices also agree
that he is offline. Yet the other system that wasn't missing the data,
still thinks he is not only ONline but also not idle. 

Also, I
discovered that the two machines ARE NOT running the same versions. 


Version 2.9.0 is missing the data occasionally yet accurately reports
when the person is on/off line. 

Version 2.7.7 Doesn't miss any data
but inaccurately reports hen the person is on/off line. 

On Sun, 10 Jul
2011 23:08:15 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: 

> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011
13:09:11 -0700
> Les Fenison wrote:
> 
>> 3. I have two instances of
Pidgin 2.9.0 logged in on two machines here at one time. One machine has
ALL the chat data, while the one I am sitting at is missing data.
> 
>
Well, it looks like you need to compare these two machines and see
>
what's different. It does not appear to be the other systems involved.



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Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:09:11 -0700
Les Fenison  wrote:

> 3. I have two instances of Pidgin 2.9.0  logged in on two machines here 
> at one time.   One machine has ALL the chat data, while the one I am 
> sitting at is missing data.

Well, it looks like you need to compare these two machines and see
what's different. It does not appear to be the other systems involved.

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Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Estevao B. K.

On 07/10/2011 05:09 PM, Les Fenison wrote:

I will do that but it may be some time before I can. Meanwhile. I do
have more details that may give a clue.

1. It only happens with one person, who happens to be the only person I
chat with that is located on the opposite side of the planet from me.
(Cyprus) Might have something to do with the server he is hitting and
path to get here. (doubtful, see #3 & #4)

2. The person on the other end is using Facebook for Android.

3. I have two instances of Pidgin 2.9.0 logged in on two machines here
at one time. One machine has ALL the chat data, while the one I am
sitting at is missing data.

4. I also have the Facebook website open monitoring the chat which is
how I knew I was missing data.



On 7/10/2011 12:58 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:50:08 -0700
Les Fenison wrote:


I am using XMPP. Can you explain exactly what I need to do with the
debug log? I have never used it before and know nothing about it.
Maybe it is logging now and I can go find the last event?

I don't know if it will log the incoming packets, but it is accessed
via the help menu, it's just a window.

You could post the contents here, and maybe show the difference between
it and the FB chat on the web, assuming it's all something you're happy
to post to a public list.



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This is happening on other IM clients too... Seems that may have 
something to do with Facebook protocol and not pidgin itself.


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Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Les Fenison
I will do that but it may be some time before I can.   Meanwhile. I do 
have more details that may give a clue.


1. It only happens with one person, who happens to be the only person I 
chat with that is located on the opposite side of the planet from me. 
(Cyprus)   Might have something to do with the server he is hitting and 
path to get here.  (doubtful, see #3 & #4)


2. The person on the other end is using Facebook for Android.

3. I have two instances of Pidgin 2.9.0  logged in on two machines here 
at one time.   One machine has ALL the chat data, while the one I am 
sitting at is missing data.


4. I also have the Facebook website open monitoring the chat which is 
how I knew I was missing data.




On 7/10/2011 12:58 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:50:08 -0700
Les Fenison  wrote:


I am using XMPP.   Can you explain exactly what I need to do with the
debug log?  I have never used it before and know nothing about it.
Maybe it is logging now and I can go find the last event?

I don't know if it will log the incoming packets, but it is accessed
via the help menu, it's just a window.

You could post the contents here, and maybe show the difference between
it and the FB chat on the web, assuming it's all something you're happy
to post to a public list.



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Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:50:08 -0700
Les Fenison  wrote:

> I am using XMPP.   Can you explain exactly what I need to do with the 
> debug log?  I have never used it before and know nothing about it.  
> Maybe it is logging now and I can go find the last event?

I don't know if it will log the incoming packets, but it is accessed
via the help menu, it's just a window.

You could post the contents here, and maybe show the difference between
it and the FB chat on the web, assuming it's all something you're happy
to post to a public list.

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Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Les Fenison
I am using XMPP.   Can you explain exactly what I need to do with the 
debug log?  I have never used it before and know nothing about it.  
Maybe it is logging now and I can go find the last event?


On 7/10/2011 12:43 PM, David Woolley wrote:

Les Fenison wrote:
Not all chat transmissions come thru to pidgin from Facebook.When 
in chat, if I open up both the facebook web page and use pidgin to 
chat. I see some responses coming back from the other person on the 
facebook web chat that never show up on pidgin.


Are you using XMPP or the facebook plugin?  The latter is not 
supported here.


If you are using XMPP, you really need to provide information from the 
debug log.






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Re: Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread David Woolley

Les Fenison wrote:
Not all chat transmissions come thru to pidgin from Facebook.When in 
chat, if I open up both the facebook web page and use pidgin to chat. I 
see some responses coming back from the other person on the facebook web 
chat that never show up on pidgin.


Are you using XMPP or the facebook plugin?  The latter is not supported 
here.


If you are using XMPP, you really need to provide information from the 
debug log.




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Facebook - Pidgin unreliable ever since recent facebook chat changes.

2011-07-10 Thread Les Fenison
Not all chat transmissions come thru to pidgin from Facebook.When in 
chat, if I open up both the facebook web page and use pidgin to chat. I 
see some responses coming back from the other person on the facebook web 
chat that never show up on pidgin.


I have done the same using mobile applications such as facebook for 
iphone, and friendly for ipad.   These apps do get everything as does 
the facebook web page chat.  Only pidgin misses incoming chat lines.


The severity is about 1 line out of every 5 that is missing.

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Re: icons/picture of the contacts

2011-07-10 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, July 06, 2011 a las 08:08:51PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have in my netbook 2.7.11 and in my laptop 2.9.0 (both run different
> versions of FreeBSD too); I see a difference of the icons/picture of
> some contact:
> 
> in 2.7.11 I see 3 pictures: a small cellphone, the MSN symbol and a
> picture of the contact (provided by the contact)
> 
> in 2.9.0 I see only the MSN symbol:
> 
> Of what is depending this?

Just for the record: It's a known issue:
http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/12999

matthias

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