Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Eric Bernier
Hi,

I want to reinstall my Ubuntu computer and I made all my backups.  Excepted
for Pidgin wich I don't know how to do it.  I want to keep my contacts
infos and all my history (chat with people, etc).  Can you help me please?

Thanks

Eric
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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Programmer In Training

Eric Bernier wrote:

Hi,

I want to reinstall my Ubuntu computer and I made all my backups.  Excepted
for Pidgin wich I don't know how to do it.  I want to keep my contacts
infos and all my history (chat with people, etc).  Can you help me please?

Thanks

Eric
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You'll find all that info in your .purple directory in the following 
files or directories.


For your contacts:
blist.xml

For your accounts:
accounts.xml

For your logs:
.purple/logs

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RE: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Eric Bernier
Hi,

Thanks for your time.

I want to reinstall Ubuntu because he's really slow by now.  I try to find
the .purple directory or the file you say but after severall minutes trying
to find it...  nothing.

Where are these files or folder?
1- They are on MY computer?
2- They are in Systeme de fichiers...  maybe system files in English?
3- They are in bin, dev, home, lib, opt, proc, root, sys, usr, var, ...?

4- They'll give me information or I copy and paste after that I had
reinstalled everything?

Thanks again for your time!

Eric


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 Eric Bernier wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I want to reinstall my Ubuntu computer and I made all my
 backups.  Excepted
  for Pidgin wich I don't know how to do it.  I want to keep my contacts
  infos and all my history (chat with people, etc).  Can you
 help me please?
 
  Thanks
 
  Eric
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 You'll find all that info in your .purple directory in the following
 files or directories.

 For your contacts:
 blist.xml

 For your accounts:
 accounts.xml

 For your logs:
 .purple/logs

 HTH

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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Programmer In Training

Eric Bernier wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your time.

I want to reinstall Ubuntu because he's really slow by now.  I try to find
the .purple directory or the file you say but after severall minutes trying
to find it...  nothing.

Where are these files or folder?
1- They are on MY computer?
2- They are in Systeme de fichiers...  maybe system files in English?
3- They are in bin, dev, home, lib, opt, proc, root, sys, usr, var, ...?

4- They'll give me information or I copy and paste after that I had
reinstalled everything?

Thanks again for your time!

Eric

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C:\Documents and Settings\username-here\Application Data\.purple

That's on Win XP, YMMV on other versions of Windoze.

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RE: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Eric Bernier
Hi,

Thanks for your rapid answer.  The computer I want to reinstall is now on
Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron (April 2008) and I don't find anything in my
personnal folder or the files you tell me...  Sorry.  I want to reinstall
the same Ubuntu.  I maybe tried to don't give enough informations for you to
help me.  Sorry.

Here's why I want to reinstall Ubuntu:
I have Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron - April 2008 on a Pentium III (Coppermine)
with 512 megs (502,4) of memory, much space available on my HDD (24,3
gigabites) and everything was going fine until the October updates that I
did.  Since that my computer is REALLY slow.

I found where to see the History of updates but I wonder if I can remove
these updates to get back my speed?
If I can and I do it, so I'll never be able to do any further updates to be
sure to don't get back into that slow speed?

I've made research to finaly end at the Ubuntu Forums at
www.ubuntuforums.org but I understand nothing...

So, for me that look easyer to reinstall everything.  I found by myself how
to do backup for everything except for Pidgin.

I'm now still with a really slow computer with Ubuntu 8.04 and I want to
reinstall everything because I don't understand the way I can find what I
could do...

That's why I want to be able to do a complete pidgin backup.  Kind of copy
files from my actual Ubuntu and to past them after I reinstaled Ubuntu.

Thanks again for your help!

Eric


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 De: Programmer In Training [mailto:p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us]
 Date: 9 décembre 2009 18:44
 À: optimisation_ericbern...@videotron.ca
 Cc: support@pidgin.im
 Objet: Re: Backup question


 Eric Bernier wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for your time.
 
  I want to reinstall Ubuntu because he's really slow by now.  I
 try to find
  the .purple directory or the file you say but after severall
 minutes trying
  to find it...  nothing.
 
  Where are these files or folder?
  1- They are on MY computer?
  2- They are in Systeme de fichiers...  maybe system files
 in English?
  3- They are in bin, dev, home, lib, opt, proc, root, sys, usr,
 var, ...?
 
  4- They'll give me information or I copy and paste after that I had
  reinstalled everything?
 
  Thanks again for your time!
 
  Eric
 snip

 C:\Documents and Settings\username-here\Application Data\.purple

 That's on Win XP, YMMV on other versions of Windoze.


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 Hi,

 I want to reinstall my Ubuntu computer and I made all my backups.
Excepted
 for Pidgin wich I don't know how to do it.  I want to keep my contacts
 infos and all my history (chat with people, etc).  Can you help me
please?

 Thanks

 Eric
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You'll find all that info in your .purple directory in the following
files or directories.

For your contacts:
blist.xml

For your accounts:
accounts.xml

For your logs:
.purple/logs

HTH
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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Programmer In Training

Eric Bernier wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your rapid answer.  The computer I want to reinstall is now on
Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron (April 2008) and I don't find anything in my
personnal folder or the files you tell me...  Sorry.  I want to reinstall
the same Ubuntu.  I maybe tried to don't give enough informations for you to
help me.  Sorry.


Are you using Windows or Ubuntu right now? The directions I gave tell 
you where .purple is on Windows XP. If you cannot find some of the 
folders I'm telling you about, you need to unhide all system folders on 
Windows, or search for the file and folder names I gave you.



Here's why I want to reinstall Ubuntu:
I have Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron - April 2008 on a Pentium III (Coppermine)
with 512 megs (502,4) of memory, much space available on my HDD (24,3
gigabites) and everything was going fine until the October updates that I
did.  Since that my computer is REALLY slow.


Has no bearing on backing up Pidgin on any platform.


I found where to see the History of updates but I wonder if I can remove
these updates to get back my speed?
If I can and I do it, so I'll never be able to do any further updates to be
sure to don't get back into that slow speed?

I've made research to finaly end at the Ubuntu Forums at
www.ubuntuforums.org but I understand nothing...


Again, has no bearing on backing up and restoring certain Pidgin files. 
I'm sorry your computer is slow, but you'll need to take that up in a 
Linux User Group or Windows User Group mailing list.



So, for me that look easyer to reinstall everything.  I found by myself how
to do backup for everything except for Pidgin.


I told you how to do it on XP. Should be the same for any NT based 
Windows version.



I'm now still with a really slow computer with Ubuntu 8.04 and I want to
reinstall everything because I don't understand the way I can find what I
could do...

That's why I want to be able to do a complete pidgin backup.  Kind of copy
files from my actual Ubuntu and to past them after I reinstaled Ubuntu.

Thanks again for your help!

Eric


Again, you running (or wanting to run, I'm not sure where you are at on 
that, nor do I care (not to be crass, but I'm trying to help you with 
Pidgin)) Ubuntu or not is not relevant to this list. I'm trying to be 
patient and helpful, but I think there is a language barrier preventing 
that.


I gave you a list of the files you'll need, I gave you the directory 
path to where those files should be on any install of Windows XP (or 
really any NT based Windows OS). Perhaps someone running Vista, Win95-ME 
(God forbid) and NT 4.0 (God forbid that too) can help you with those 
particular versions of Windows, I cannot.


HTH,

PIT

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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Paul Aurich
And Programmer In Training spoke on 12/09/2009 07:46 PM, saying:
 Eric Bernier wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for your rapid answer.  The computer I want to reinstall is now on
 Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron (April 2008) and I don't find anything in my
 personnal folder or the files you tell me...  Sorry.  I want to
 reinstall
 the same Ubuntu.  I maybe tried to don't give enough informations for
 you to
 help me.  Sorry.
 
 Are you using Windows or Ubuntu right now? The directions I gave tell
 you where .purple is on Windows XP. If you cannot find some of the
 folders I'm telling you about, you need to unhide all system folders on
 Windows, or search for the file and folder names I gave you.

Eric,
The folder is located in ~/.purple (where ~ is shorthand for /home/your
username) on Unix. It's a dot-folder, so is typically hidden from GUI file
browsers by default.

PiT, Eric never said he was using Windows (in fact, he mentioned he was
using Ubuntu multiple times).

~Paul




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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread John W. Moore III
Programmer In Training wrote:

 Again, you running (or wanting to run, I'm not sure where you are at on
 that, nor do I care (not to be crass, but I'm trying to help you with
 Pidgin)) Ubuntu or not is not relevant to this list. I'm trying to be
 patient and helpful, but I think there is a language barrier preventing
 that.

Doesn't bother Me to sound crass.  :)  He has mentioned many times that
He's running Ubuntu and will reinstall Ubuntu.  He *never* mentioned
Windows. SIGH  Ubuntu is Linux.

Offering Windows assistance to a Linux User is about as helpful as
offering a can of Diesel fuel to a motorist who has run out of gas.  :-\

S/He needs to login as Root and then locate ~/.purple  [~ = Home]

HTH

JOHN ;)
Timestamp: Wednesday 09 Dec 2009, 23:15  --500 (Eastern Standard Time)



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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Programmer In Training

John W. Moore III wrote:

Programmer In Training wrote:


Again, you running (or wanting to run, I'm not sure where you are at on
that, nor do I care (not to be crass, but I'm trying to help you with
Pidgin)) Ubuntu or not is not relevant to this list. I'm trying to be
patient and helpful, but I think there is a language barrier preventing
that.


Doesn't bother Me to sound crass.  :)  He has mentioned many times that
He's running Ubuntu and will reinstall Ubuntu.  He *never* mentioned
Windows. SIGH  Ubuntu is Linux.


I heard he was installing (then reinstalling, then installing) Ubuntu, 
so forgive me for not being on the boat that he is using Ubuntu.



Offering Windows assistance to a Linux User is about as helpful as
offering a can of Diesel fuel to a motorist who has run out of gas.  :-\


This is true, and my apologies to him and the rest of the list. It 
sounded like to me that he was wanting to install (or having used it 
before, reinstall) Ubuntu on a slow running computer. I hope I can be 
forgiven for thinking he was running Windoze.



S/He needs to login as Root and then locate ~/.purple  [~ = Home]


I'm fairly certain Bernie is a he. And he doesn't need to be root to get 
into ~/.purple (unless he's running Pidgin as root, which is just 
silly). I'm very familiar with Linux myself (I've used RH6.2-8, Debian 
and Gentoo), having about a decade of experience with the OS (giving my 
experience with Linux to certify that I do know what I'm talking about).


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RE: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Eric Bernier
THANKS PAUL I'll backup that!

Have a great day!!!

Eric

And thanks for the patience of Pit.


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 Date: 9 décembre 2009 22:59
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 Cc: optimisation_ericbern...@videotron.ca; support@pidgin.im
 Objet: Re: Backup question


 And Programmer In Training spoke on 12/09/2009 07:46 PM, saying:
  Eric Bernier wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for your rapid answer.  The computer I want to
 reinstall is now on
  Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron (April 2008) and I don't find anything in my
  personnal folder or the files you tell me...  Sorry.  I want to
  reinstall
  the same Ubuntu.  I maybe tried to don't give enough informations for
  you to
  help me.  Sorry.
 
  Are you using Windows or Ubuntu right now? The directions I gave tell
  you where .purple is on Windows XP. If you cannot find some of the
  folders I'm telling you about, you need to unhide all system folders on
  Windows, or search for the file and folder names I gave you.

 Eric,
 The folder is located in ~/.purple (where ~ is shorthand for /home/your
 username) on Unix. It's a dot-folder, so is typically hidden
 from GUI file
 browsers by default.

 PiT, Eric never said he was using Windows (in fact, he mentioned he was
 using Ubuntu multiple times).

 ~Paul



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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread Programmer In Training

Programmer In Training wrote:
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I'm fairly certain Bernie is a he. And he doesn't need to be root to get 

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Make that Eric, my apologies!

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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread David Woolley

Eric Bernier wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your time.

I want to reinstall Ubuntu because he's really slow by now.  I try to find
the .purple directory or the file you say but after severall minutes trying
to find it...  nothing.

Where are these files or folder?
1- They are on MY computer?
2- They are in Systeme de fichiers...  maybe system files in English?


These are abstractions created by the GUI.  The second one may actually 
be the directory /, and the English is probably file system.



3- They are in bin, dev, home, lib, opt, proc, root, sys, usr, var, ...?


On a Unix system, you would expect to find files and directories 
beginning with ., and personal to a particular user, in 
/home/username.  More precisely, they should be in the directory named 
by the environment variable $HOME, at the time the program is run. 
Conventionally the initial . causes them to be hidden from directory 
listings, and is used to avoid cluttering listings with lots of 
configuration data files.


I'm afraid this information is so well known to traditional users of 
Unix, that one would not normally expect to have to explain it, however 
netbooks and other Linux distributions trying to mimic Windows are 
probably raising a generation that only knows the GUI abstractions, 
which vary from abstraction to abstraction, even if the same version of 
pidgin will work with all of them.


4- They'll give me information or I copy and paste after that I had
reinstalled everything?


Copy them.





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Re: Backup question

2009-12-09 Thread David Woolley

John W. Moore III wrote:


S/He needs to login as Root and then locate ~/.purple  [~ = Home]


That assumes he is running pidgin as root, or worse that the platform on 
which he is running doesn't encourage the creation of unprivileged 
users.  Root should be root.


Also, it assumes that his GUI tools understand the ~ convention.
I think it is fairly clear from the question that he is only using the 
system via the GUI.  I find it difficult to believe that a command line 
user would not know about home directories and . files.


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