Re: email address fails

[Mark Hansen]

On 01/16/09 16:28, Rick Merrill wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Rick Merrill wrote:
>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Rick Merrill wrote:
> Sometimes an email address fails for one reason or another.
> This is not a problem if you have a single addressee but if
> one of many addresses fails it's nice to know which one had
> the problem.
>
> In email the client says:
> RCPT TO:
> the server replies:
> 550 No such domain
> So the client can see immediately the incorrect address.
> But the SM email client doesn't display the result to the user.
>
> Is there any way to access the "RCPT' message in SM?
> In other words, is there a way to create & examine "a session log"?
>
>
> - Rick

 this isn't a message from SM but rather from the sending server.  And 
 the message only tells you which address, in this case 
 u...@baddomain.com, is bad, cause there is no such domain as 
 baddomain.com.

>>>
>>> SM fails to pass the message, translating all the possible info right 
>>> out of it.  I want the message original message from the server so I 
>>> can debug my address list.
>> 
>> unless I'm missing something, this has nothing to do with SM. Talk to 
>> your email provider
>> 
> 
> I have been told by telnet experts that the diagnostic comes from the 
> server but the mail client (SM) "could" pass it along but does not.
> According to them 'some' clients can maintain a log of the SMTP
> transactions, sooo I was wondering/hoping that SeaMonkey could do that.
> I really hate it when 1 of many email addresses has gone bad, don't you?

Actually, there are two communications happening here. First, is SeaMonkey
talking to your configured SMTP server. That server will "accept" your e-mail
and promises to delivery it "later" (if possible). SeaMonkey will tell you
about any problems which occur during that communication (but that's not
what is going wrong in this case).

The error you're referencing above, however, happens during the second part
of the transaction - when the mail server attempts to deliver the message
to the target mail server. When that has problems, it's up to the target
mail server (and in some cases, you're mail server) to send an "error"
e-mail message back to you. Some will, some won't (and it depends on the
error as well).

In the case you're talking about, SeaMonkey is not involved at all, so there
is nothing SeaMonkey can do to get you that error information.

If you send an e-mail with a bad e-mail address and don't get a "bounce"
message back reporting the error, you should talk to your SMTP provider
(the administrator of the SMTP server your SeaMonkey client is talking
to) and ask them to look into it.

Does that help?
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unicode/western

[Bush]

I have Cheracter code set to Western, But some webpages try to use 
UNICODE and do not load up untill I choose view/character code/ western. 
and the page loads up immediately, But if I hit Reload it tries to use 
UNICoDE again.

Edit/preferences/navigator/language is set to western (ISO-8859-1)

One computer stays WESTERN . the other computer switches to unicode most 
of the time.


seamonkey 1.1.14 on both computers and both are Xp home.

example

http://www.foxnews.comUNICODE

http://www.cnn.comWESTERN

http://www.freep.comWestern

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?location=default 


  loads up as unicode


http://www.wxyz.com/default.aspx  unicode.


all of the above load up as WESTERN on the other computer .
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Re: email address fails

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Rick Merrill wrote:

I really hate it when 1 of many email addresses has gone bad, don't you?


no, not really.  When I receive a message that one of 
my addresses is bad, it tells me which one it is.  So, 
its easy to find.


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Re: email address fails

[Rick Merrill]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes an email address fails for one reason or another.
This is not a problem if you have a single addressee but if
one of many addresses fails it's nice to know which one had
the problem.

In email the client says:
RCPT TO:
the server replies:
550 No such domain
So the client can see immediately the incorrect address.
But the SM email client doesn't display the result to the user.

Is there any way to access the "RCPT' message in SM?
In other words, is there a way to create & examine "a session log"?


- Rick


this isn't a message from SM but rather from the sending server.  And 
the message only tells you which address, in this case 
u...@baddomain.com, is bad, cause there is no such domain as 
baddomain.com.




SM fails to pass the message, translating all the possible info right 
out of it.  I want the message original message from the server so I 
can debug my address list.


unless I'm missing something, this has nothing to do with SM. Talk to 
your email provider




I have been told by telnet experts that the diagnostic comes from the 
server but the mail client (SM) "could" pass it along but does not.

According to them 'some' clients can maintain a log of the SMTP
transactions, sooo I was wondering/hoping that SeaMonkey could do that.
I really hate it when 1 of many email addresses has gone bad, don't you?
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Re: email address fails

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes an email address fails for one reason or another.
This is not a problem if you have a single addressee but if
one of many addresses fails it's nice to know which one had
the problem.

In email the client says:
RCPT TO:
the server replies:
550 No such domain
So the client can see immediately the incorrect address.
But the SM email client doesn't display the result to the user.

Is there any way to access the "RCPT' message in SM?
In other words, is there a way to create & examine "a session log"?


- Rick


this isn't a message from SM but rather from the sending server.  And 
the message only tells you which address, in this case 
u...@baddomain.com, is bad, cause there is no such domain as 
baddomain.com.




SM fails to pass the message, translating all the possible info right 
out of it.  I want the message original message from the server so I can 
debug my address list.


unless I'm missing something, this has nothing to do 
with SM. Talk to your email provider


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Re: email address fails

[Rick Merrill]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes an email address fails for one reason or another.
This is not a problem if you have a single addressee but if
one of many addresses fails it's nice to know which one had
the problem.

In email the client says:
RCPT TO:
the server replies:
550 No such domain
So the client can see immediately the incorrect address.
But the SM email client doesn't display the result to the user.

Is there any way to access the "RCPT' message in SM?
In other words, is there a way to create & examine "a session log"?


- Rick


this isn't a message from SM but rather from the sending server.  And 
the message only tells you which address, in this case 
u...@baddomain.com, is bad, cause there is no such domain as baddomain.com.




SM fails to pass the message, translating all the possible info right 
out of it.  I want the message original message from the server so I can 
debug my address list.

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Re: Which Plugin Needed?

[Anonymous S.]

Tom Pamin ??:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

hb wrote:

/Tom Pamin/ said:

Can someone tell me what plugin I need to listen to this page, and
where to get it? It works fine in IE.

http://heavens-gates.com/fifties/putchristback.html


The Quick Time Alternative plug-in does the job here.  It's readily
available from a variety of sites...
http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=5610

If you're looking for 50s/60s music, the Heavens-Gates site file 
quality

is about as poor as it gets.

Not great, but better, and you may encounter less plug-in hassle, is 
the

site below.  Windows Media Player works for it here.

http://www.bobforrest.com/JukeBox.htm

Can someone email me a copy of the np-mswmp.dll file at 
scnr...@roadrunner.com?
I found the file, and downloaded and installed it. It now shows up in 
About Plugins and the test page works, but the original page I listed 
still does not play ands asks for a missing plugin. Now what?

Here's another page that still doesn't work for me:
http://vancouver-webpages.com/plugins/diodes-wav.html


This work for me,
QuickTime 7.4.5 plug-in can handle .wav
automatic (but "BLIND") playback without interface (UI)
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SM2.0a3 chatzilla bug fixed

[Bill Davidsen]

I got this bug:
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471207

fixed in less than two weeks, and it seems to be the last one biting me. I have 
cautiously moved some of my accounts to the new version, keeping all my mail, 
news, and RSS in one place is convenient enough to mandate a change.


Thanks to the folks who made it happen!

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Re: Mail moving question

[Bill Davidsen]

Norvin wrote:
Under Moz 1.7.13 I am able to have my mail account (eg john doe 
 and one for my wife (jane doe 
. I had a message filter set up that would use 
her friends addresses and move her mail from my inbox mail to her inbox.
She was able to reply, forward the message or compose as she wished and 
the email would show her name as the sender. Using SM, if she does a 
compose, the email will have her name as the sender, but if she does a 
reply or forward, it will put my name as the sender. I have not been 
able to locate what or how I can make this correction. I know that she

could choose her name from the drop down list but she is not very
computer savvy and I want to make things easy for her. Currently I have
her sign on using Moz and everything works fine and I can use SM and be
able to access mail and/or internet. Since Moz and SM use the same files 
(about:config, etc) I am unable to determine what if anything can be 
changed.


Hopefully this all makes sense to someone and a easy fix is available.

It's a little late, but I would have suggested that you use a whole separate 
profile for her. Then create a seamonkey icon for her on the desktop which 
forces use of "her" profile. I can't tell you exactly how to do that in Windows, 
only that it can be done, and then she could have here own copy.


You also should not have used a filer, having a 2nd account to pull only her 
mail would have been better.


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Mail moving question

[Norvin]

Under Moz 1.7.13 I am able to have my mail account (eg john doe 
 and one for my wife (jane doe 
. I had a message filter set up that would use 
her friends addresses and move her mail from my inbox mail to her inbox.
She was able to reply, forward the message or compose as she wished and 
the email would show her name as the sender. Using SM, if she does a 
compose, the email will have her name as the sender, but if she does a 
reply or forward, it will put my name as the sender. I have not been 
able to locate what or how I can make this correction. I know that she

could choose her name from the drop down list but she is not very
computer savvy and I want to make things easy for her. Currently I have
her sign on using Moz and everything works fine and I can use SM and be
able to access mail and/or internet. Since Moz and SM use the same files 
(about:config, etc) I am unable to determine what if anything can be 
changed.


Hopefully this all makes sense to someone and a easy fix is available.

Thanks
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Re: Lost bookmarks (SeaMonkey 1.1.14)

[Bill Davidsen]

BrunoR wrote:

Daniel wrote:

BrunoR wrote:

I just lost the bulk of my bookmarks.  I.E. Book marks are still there
but reduced to about 10 from more than 100.
Are there instructions somewhere on how to retrieve the lost ones, if
possible?
Thank you


Bruno, not withstanding what Bill has said, can you give us a bit of 
detail about what you were doing at the time that you lost the bulk of 
your bookmarks??


Hi, I do agree with what Bill has said;  Sometimes we just cause ourselves
to suffer unnecessary aggravations for reasons that are not always clear 
;-(.


Thank you for that reminder. While I do have recent complete backups of 
everything I have, and I do moderately often put my bookmarks in a file for easy 
recovery, I checked and my export of my address books was months old. While I 
could recover the data from the "save everything" backup, it certainly isn't 
painless to do so. Therefore I backed up each of my address books in both ldif 
and tab-separated format, for easy use in any of several ways.



Also, my bookmarks may not have been that important to keep.  Here is what
I was doing:  I was trying to do what Bill had suggested but before 
making a

backup I successfully sorted my bookmarks then, trying to make that backup
file, whoops, everything was gone without me realizing what really 
happened.

When I looked at bookmarks again I realized that I had lost most of them
except 10 of them..

Thank you both for trying to be helpful, but I think we might as well 
rest the case.





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Re: Comcast Smartzone

[Henry]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Henry wrote:


Sorry to post here but I can't get post to Mozilla NG.

I'm running Mozilla 1.8.1.11 and agent switcher 0.6.10 set to Firefox 
2.0.0.11 on WinXP Pro.


When I go to Comcast home page, I can log in OK, but when I click on 
email it goes to Smartzone, but Smartzone doesn't load, it just sits 
and looks a me.  Everything works with IE6.  Any one else having this 
problem.  Comcast doesn't support Mozilla as we all know, so the guy 
there said "too bad" use IE.


Thanks

Henry



Did you try the server
news.motzarella.org
and the group
alt.online-service.comcast
?

news.motzarella.org works fine.  I've been using it for some time now.
I'll try posting to alt.online-service.comcast for a solution.

I'm having trouble getting to Comcast Smartzone, which isn't a NG but 
their email program.


Henry
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Re: S.M. 1.1.4 Not Advanced Enough For Maps On Some Web Sites?

[keith_w]

Benoit Renard wrote:

keith_w wrote:

You mean... my SeaMonkey 1.1.13 is not as "up to date" as my Firefox
3.0.4?


In terms of security updates, it probably is. But NOT in terms of 
capabilities when it comes to JavaScript and web standards. SeaMonkey 
1.1.x is based on the Gecko 1.8.1 backend, while Firefox 3.0.x is based 
on the Gecko 1.9 backend.


Unless you (Benoit) change your ".x" to real numbers, it doesn't seem 
accurate.


The x stands for all possible numbers. SeaMonkey 1.1.x means SeaMonkey 
1.1.0 through 1.1.14, for instance.


For instance, SeaMonkey 1.1.13 and 1.1.14 are equivalent to FF 
2.0.whatever, but NOT to FF 3.0.x?  Hmmm.



Yes.


Okay, then I DID understand you! Thanks for the confirmation!

keith whaley
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Re: Comcast Smartzone

[Rick Merrill]

Henry wrote:

Sorry to post here but I can't get post to Mozilla NG.

I'm running Mozilla 1.8.1.11 and agent switcher 0.6.10 set to Firefox 
2.0.0.11 on WinXP Pro.


When I go to Comcast home page, I can log in OK, but when I click on 
email it goes to Smartzone, but Smartzone doesn't load, it just sits and 
looks a me.  Everything works with IE6.  Any one else having this 
problem.  Comcast doesn't support Mozilla as we all know, so the guy 
there said "too bad" use IE.


Thanks

Henry


Did you try the server
news.motzarella.org
and the group
alt.online-service.comcast
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Re: email address fails

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Sometimes an email address fails for one reason or another.
This is not a problem if you have a single addressee but if
one of many addresses fails it's nice to know which one had
the problem.

In email the client says:
RCPT TO:
the server replies:
550 No such domain
So the client can see immediately the incorrect address.
But the SM email client doesn't display the result to the user.

Is there any way to access the "RCPT' message in SM?
In other words, is there a way to create & examine "a session log"?


- Rick


this isn't a message from SM but rather from the 
sending server.  And the message only tells you which 
address, in this case u...@baddomain.com, is bad, cause 
there is no such domain as baddomain.com.


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email address fails

[Rick Merrill]

Sometimes an email address fails for one reason or another.
This is not a problem if you have a single addressee but if
one of many addresses fails it's nice to know which one had
the problem.

In email the client says:
RCPT TO:
the server replies:
550 No such domain
So the client can see immediately the incorrect address.
But the SM email client doesn't display the result to the user.

Is there any way to access the "RCPT' message in SM?
In other words, is there a way to create & examine "a session log"?


- Rick
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Re: Quicktime Plugin SM1.1.14

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

jcgg wrote:
When the Quicktime plugin opens in the SM browser the narrow strip for 
QT turns black. Under SM 1.1.13 this did not happen. Is there a way to 
fix this?


sorry to say, but mine shows up just fine.

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Quicktime Plugin SM1.1.14

[jcgg]

When the Quicktime plugin opens in the SM browser the narrow strip for 
QT turns black. Under SM 1.1.13 this did not happen. Is there a way to 
fix this?

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Re: S.M. 1.1.4 Not Advanced Enough For Maps On Some Web Sites?

[Benoit Renard]

keith_w wrote:

You mean... my SeaMonkey 1.1.13 is not as "up to date" as my Firefox
3.0.4?


In terms of security updates, it probably is. But NOT in terms of 
capabilities when it comes to JavaScript and web standards. SeaMonkey 
1.1.x is based on the Gecko 1.8.1 backend, while Firefox 3.0.x is based 
on the Gecko 1.9 backend.


Unless you (Benoit) change your ".x" to real numbers, it doesn't seem 
accurate.


The x stands for all possible numbers. SeaMonkey 1.1.x means SeaMonkey 
1.1.0 through 1.1.14, for instance.


For instance, SeaMonkey 1.1.13 and 1.1.14 are equivalent to FF 
2.0.whatever, but NOT to FF 3.0.x?  Hmmm.


Yes.
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Re: S.M. 1.1.4 Not Advanced Enough For Maps On Some Web Sites?

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

keith_w wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

You might want to change Firefox/2.0 to Firefox/3.0


Let's not create side-effects by being a bad citizen and claiming to 
be using a more capable web browser than we are. SeaMonkey 1.1.x is 
equivalent to Firefox 2.0.x, so let's use that.


You mean... my SeaMonkey 1.1.13 is not as "up to date" as my Firefox 3.0.4?

Unless you (Benoit) change your ".x" to real numbers, it doesn't seem 
accurate.
For instance, SeaMonkey 1.1.13 and 1.1.14 are equivalent to FF 
2.0.whatever, but NOT to FF 3.0.x?  Hmmm.


SM 1.1.14 seems to have created little problems here and there for some 
people, so I'm waiting a bit, reading the mail.


keith whaley


he's saying that SM 1.1.x and FF 3.x are not the same, 
but rather SM 1.1.x and FF 2.x are.  SM 2 and FF 3 will 
[or rather should] be.


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Re: S.M. 1.1.4 Not Advanced Enough For Maps On Some Web Sites?

[keith_w]

Benoit Renard wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

You might want to change Firefox/2.0 to Firefox/3.0


Let's not create side-effects by being a bad citizen and claiming to be 
using a more capable web browser than we are. SeaMonkey 1.1.x is 
equivalent to Firefox 2.0.x, so let's use that.


You mean... my SeaMonkey 1.1.13 is not as "up to date" as my Firefox 3.0.4?

Unless you (Benoit) change your ".x" to real numbers, it doesn't seem accurate.
For instance, SeaMonkey 1.1.13 and 1.1.14 are equivalent to FF 2.0.whatever, but 
NOT to FF 3.0.x?  Hmmm.


SM 1.1.14 seems to have created little problems here and there for some people, 
so I'm waiting a bit, reading the mail.


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Re: Comcast Smartzone

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/15/2009 04:56 PM, Henry wrote:
If people are replying to me, their replys are not getting through. 
When I download the NG it shows the number of messages.  When I click 
on the NG some of the messages disappear. If you have replied via the 
NG, please reply via my email address.


Henry


Your message got through... However I don't see that anyone has
responded so far. Given that this is a SeaMonkey NG, perhaps nobody
knows the answer to your problem?


sorry to say, but someone HAS replied, and I've made a complaint about 
this problem here:

news://news.mozilla.org:119/hssdnbrky_9wqpfunz2dnuvz_juaa...@mozilla.org
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/7166e426f6287632?q=#86ccb83181066af8 



and nobody has given an answer.

So far my reply to this message 4 hours ago, still hasn't shown up.



well, its over 16 hours and this posting of mine still 
hasn't shown up.


And still the Moz "powers to be" have refused to 
explained whats going on.


WARNING: replying to this posting will have your 
message posted to the mozilla.general group.


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Re: Can I start Seamonkey Mail automatically when Windows Vista starts??

[Jens Hatlak]

dirk wrote:

Anyone?


Just place a copy of the SeaMonkey shortcut (Start menu, Programs, 
SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey) in your Autostart folder (Start menu, Programs, 
Autostart). If you want to launch just SeaMonkey Mail independent from 
your general startup settings, go to Properties of the new shortcut add 
 " -mail" (without the quotes) at the end of Target.


HTH

Jens

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Can I start Seamonkey Mail automatically when Windows Vista starts??

[dirk]

Anyone?

Thanks,
DJ

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