[OT - somewhat] mozilla.support.screenshots borked?

2009-06-08 Thread NoOp
Has the "moderator" gone walkabout? Posted a SM 2.0 related screenshot
there hours ago & it's yet to show up.

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Re: Unread items icon in SM2

2009-06-08 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:04:46 -0400, David Wilkinson wrote:
> Philip Chee wrote:
>> In 2.0a3 you should have a menu item View->Apply Theme.
>> 
>> You should also be able to do:
>>   Tools->Add-ons Manager.
>>   Select the Themes pane.
>>   Change the selected theme.
> 
> Ah yes, I see things are organized a little differently in SM2.

Doesn't View->Apply Theme date back to the old Mozilla Suite?

> But I do not see the classic theme. Will that be available in SM2?

It's now called the "Default Theme" but it with new icons for the
buttons. If you want the classic "Classic" then you'll have to look for
a third party theme that does this retro look.

Phil

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Re: [SM 2.0] New news servers not showing up w/out restarting SM

2009-06-08 Thread NoOp
On 06/08/2009 06:45 PM, NoOp wrote:
> Anyone else notice that when you subscribe to a new news server that it
> doesn't show up in the mail/news window unless you close and restart SM?
> 
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
> Gecko/20090608 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre
> 
> Test twice today, and on both occasions the new news server doesn't show
> up without closing & restarting SM. Note: the server does indeed show up
> in Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.

Correction, just found out that if I close and restart the mail windows
(all that are open) the new news servers do show up.

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[SM 2.0] New news servers not showing up w/out restarting SM

2009-06-08 Thread NoOp
Anyone else notice that when you subscribe to a new news server that it
doesn't show up in the mail/news window unless you close and restart SM?

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
Gecko/20090608 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre

Test twice today, and on both occasions the new news server doesn't show
up without closing & restarting SM. Note: the server does indeed show up
in Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.
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Re: Dead Tired of TBird :-(

2009-06-08 Thread Charles Milton Ling

Roger Fink wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

RF wrote:

Hiya SeaMonkies :-)

I have used TBird for many years and in that time for numerous
reasons I had to transfer the user data to the new installation and
it was the ultimate pain.

Now I am looking for something that is far less bloated, and still
secure and simple. Simple enough to be able to transfer all the user
data to a new installation of the program in less than about an
hour.

I'm told it is a combination of a browser and email reader. One
thing
I absolutely require is emails in my computer - not on the ISPs
websites with all of their crap ads.

TIA

If you are the kind of user who gets into irreversible trouble with a
dedicated email application (and you've answered that question in
your posts on the Tbird board), IMO you really don't want to install
a single program that functions as three different applications,
because getting into trouble with a multi-purpose application means
uninstalling everything, at least in the absence of being able to
fix it.



Although I am a big fan of Seamonkey in its present versions, I second
Roger's answer to you.

Being able to fix minor problems - and you will get lots of help here
-
is critical. Believe me, transferring TB from one machine to the other
is very simple, provided you take the time to gather information and
carefully use it.

Transferring Seamonkey data to another machine requires basically the
same steps, so if you think Seamonkey will solve the problems you
encountered, think again.

The strong point of SM is combining a browser and an email program
into
one, as Netscape and Mozilla Suite did. Some prefer this approach,
some don't.

The latest version of SM (1.1.16) is for me ideal: it combines the
ease
of use of TB and the (relative) simplicity of FF2 which I prefer by
fare
to FF3's.


You can actually replicate the integrated feel of the SeaMonkey suite to a
significant degree merely by installing minimize-to-tray for the two
applications TB & FF, and a common theme such as Mostly Crystal. So if you
get into trouble with either one, well then what happens in Las Vegas stays
in Las Vegas. I actually go to the extreme of using a separate newsreader
program to REALLY keep my mistakes compartmentalized, but I believe under
the rules of posting here, I'm not allowed to mention what it is.





How does one install "minimize-to-tray"?  Sorry if this is a stupid 
question. I did install Mostly Crystal and like it very much!


Greetings to all,
Charley

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Re: Managing Identities?

2009-06-08 Thread Richard Lane

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 06.06.2009 19:10, Richard Lane wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

I wanted to add an additional e-mail address to SM 1.1.9 and used the 
"Managing Identities" button on the account menu. I sent a test message 
from this new e-mail address to the same address and it appeared in the 
"Sent" folder but I never received the message. I sent this same message 
to myself OK using my own e-mail address.

Dick


The "identity" must have an email account somewhere in the name/address
of the identity you created.

You can SEND an email using a created ID but not receive mail from that
ID because it doesn't exist outside your local system.

Jay,my aceweb account shows both my e-mail address rql...@aceweb.com and 
the newly added address m...@aceweb.com.
My SM account shows both addresses namely Richard Lane  
which is my ieee alias presently set to aceweb.com and Mary Hollander 
. Editing either address shows for me Your Name Richard 
Lane Email Address rql...@ieee.org Reply to Address is blank and for 
Mary Your Name Mary Hollander Email Address m...@aceweb.com Reply to 
Address m...@aceweb.com

Thanks for your interest, Dick
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Re: Problem moving to ne computer

2009-06-08 Thread stan

stan wrote:
I'm moving to an Acer and also to Vista.  I have written my profile from 
old system to my external hard disk. Then, installed SM16 to new 
machine.  Used profile manager and named a new profile. Then figured I 
could search for a folder with ".slt" and replace the contents to get my 
old profile. BUT, searching in VISTA does not find ther slt folder. 
Wouldn't it at least find one for the default profile?


I now understand all the complaints about Vista.  Can't even get a My 
Computer view that comes close to matching XP.


Help, please.
Stan



I uninstalled and downloaded SM again and this time downloaded it to a 
file.  I located the profile and copied all my old folders and files 
into that profile folder. Started up and the screens look right. 
Clicked on Input (or anything else) and it goes into a "not responding" 
state.


Seems like there are a lot of folders and files in the old profile. I 
had a lot of add-ons installed.  Could this be causing prolems with the 
profile?


Stan

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Re: No more SBC/ATT news groups

2009-06-08 Thread Daniel

Bob wrote:





Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.


then how come it ended up here???

Daniel
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Re: Restore Emails & Address book.

2009-06-08 Thread Daniel

RGWv wrote:

Anyone,

Help! Please!!

I was using Netscape Communicator 4.7 for my email uses and enjoyed it
immensely. But late Friday I got an error message about running out of disk
space or a read/write permission to the file structure was not granted.
Something was said about a period at the end of an address could cause this
particular error. After looking for an hour, no period. But I found 
SeaMonkey.
I installed it and it worked fine. It even automatically imported my 
settings,

address book and previous emails.

Then I made the fatal mistake of uninstalling Netscape. I even answered
no to do I wish to remove all components. SeaMonkey has not worked since. I
went back in to the trash bin all restored all. But SeaMonkey still does 
not
work. I am presently using Windows Live so as to not create a problem in 
any

restoration.

Can someone help me restore my previous emails and address book?

Thank you in advance,

Bob.

Bob, your incoming mail is stored in a file called "inbox" without the 
"'s and no extension.


Have a look at:-
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/hiddenfiles.mspx
http://ilias.ca/mozilla/profilefaq/#locations

to see if you need to un-hide your files, then do a Windows "Find Files 
and Folders" to see if your inbox still exists.


If you find it, report back and someone here will be able to tell you 
how to restore things.


If you don't find it, then I'm sorry, it's gone.

Daniel
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No more SBC/ATT news groups

2009-06-08 Thread Bob

Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
offering access to the Usenet netnews service.  If you wish to continue
reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through third-party
vendors.

Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.
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Re: Problem moving to ne computer

2009-06-08 Thread Ray_Net

stan wrote:
I'm moving to an Acer and also to Vista.  I have written my profile from 
old system to my external hard disk. Then, installed SM16 to new 
machine.  Used profile manager and named a new profile. Then figured I 
could search for a folder with ".slt" and replace the contents to get my 
old profile. BUT, searching in VISTA does not find ther slt folder. 
Wouldn't it at least find one for the default profile?


I now understand all the complaints about Vista.  Can't even get a My 
Computer view that comes close to matching XP.


Help, please.
Stan



Possibly, Vista will not permit you to view inside some directories 
where your profiles are located. You have to reset some option like 
"Hide" files, files with extensions, directories ...etc ..


some infos here
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/a0b4607a-6fa8-42ab-aef6-7418183389da1033.mspx
or here
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a0b4607a-6fa8-42ab-aef6-7418183389da1033.mspx
anyway, there are a lot of option to hide or show files/directories
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Re: Unread items icon in SM2

2009-06-08 Thread David Wilkinson

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Classic is renamed SeaMonkey-Default-Theme.


Yes, I can see that they are similar. And I quite like the 
"SeaMonkey-Default-Theme".


But the unread items icon with the green arrow is like the one in the SM1.x 
modern theme, not the classic theme.


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Re: Unread items icon in SM2

2009-06-08 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

David Wilkinson wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

In 2.0a3 you should have a menu item View->Apply Theme.

You should also be able to do:
  Tools->Add-ons Manager.
  Select the Themes pane.
  Change the selected theme.


Philip:

Ah yes, I see things are organized a little differently in SM2.

But I do not see the classic theme. Will that be available in SM2?

(BTW, I don't know if this affecting how things look, but I am running 
SM2 on Windows 7 RC.)



Classic is renamed SeaMonkey-Default-Theme.
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Problem moving to ne computer

2009-06-08 Thread stan
I'm moving to an Acer and also to Vista.  I have written my profile from 
old system to my external hard disk. Then, installed SM16 to new 
machine.  Used profile manager and named a new profile. Then figured I 
could search for a folder with ".slt" and replace the contents to get my 
old profile. BUT, searching in VISTA does not find ther slt folder. 
Wouldn't it at least find one for the default profile?


I now understand all the complaints about Vista.  Can't even get a My 
Computer view that comes close to matching XP.


Help, please.
Stan

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Re: SeaMonkey 2 and Thunderbird 3

2009-06-08 Thread Robert Kaiser

David Wilkinson wrote:

So my question is: Is the release of SM2 being delayed until Thunderbird
3 is finished?


Yes, it is, we cannot release a stable SeaMonkey release without a 
stable mail/news backend, which we only will have once Thunderbird 3 
goes into at least RC phase.


That said, we'll have a first beta of SM2 in the next few weeks, a 
second beta a few weeks later and then a final another few weeks later.


We should be on the way now and pick up a good drive towards final. It's 
a bit unfortunate that the duration between Alpha 3 and Beta 1 grew 
significantly longer than expected, but things should be moving more 
smoothly from now on.
Unfortunately I can't talk in real schedules right now, as there's one 
large feature for the mail backend (indexing all data to allow for fast 
and easy search across all messages and addresses) is being worked on 
still, and that feature is what's pushing out Thunderbird and SeaMonkey 
beta release dates right now.


Robert Kaiser
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Restore Emails & Address book.

2009-06-08 Thread RGWv

Anyone,

Help! Please!!

I was using Netscape Communicator 4.7 for my email uses and enjoyed it
immensely. But late Friday I got an error message about running out of disk
space or a read/write permission to the file structure was not granted.
Something was said about a period at the end of an address could cause this
particular error. After looking for an hour, no period. But I found 
SeaMonkey.
I installed it and it worked fine. It even automatically imported my 
settings,

address book and previous emails.

Then I made the fatal mistake of uninstalling Netscape. I even answered
no to do I wish to remove all components. SeaMonkey has not worked since. I
went back in to the trash bin all restored all. But SeaMonkey still does not
work. I am presently using Windows Live so as to not create a problem in any
restoration.

Can someone help me restore my previous emails and address book?

Thank you in advance,

Bob.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2 and Thunderbird 3

2009-06-08 Thread David Wilkinson

dominique wrote:
I personally find the current SM2 nightlies at a very high level of 
quality (a good beta, compared to some other open source dev...), thanks 
to the work of the whole team ! Although this work is still referred to 
as "alpha", it is very usable and reliable.


dominique:

I don't have time for the nightlies, but SM2 Alpha 3 already works pretty well 
for me.


But what about TB3? Is this what is holding up the move to release SM2?

And what are the plans for more pre-release builds (if any)?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2 and Thunderbird 3

2009-06-08 Thread dominique

David Wilkinson wrote, On 6/8/2009 1:55 PM:

I'm sure there will be many good things in SM2, but for me the most
important order of business is getting the FireFox 3 rendering engine.
Already there are several sites I use (one in particular) that do not
render well in SM1.x.

So my question is: Is the release of SM2 being delayed until Thunderbird
3 is finished?

Compatibility with TB is good, but if (as might appear) the release of
TB3 is not a matter of great urgency, I am concerned.

I personally find the current SM2 nightlies at a very high level of 
quality (a good beta, compared to some other open source dev...), thanks 
to the work of the whole team ! Although this work is still referred to 
as "alpha", it is very usable and reliable.


Kudos to them
Dominique
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Re: Unread items icon in SM2

2009-06-08 Thread David Wilkinson

Philip Chee wrote:

In 2.0a3 you should have a menu item View->Apply Theme.

You should also be able to do:
  Tools->Add-ons Manager.
  Select the Themes pane.
  Change the selected theme.


Philip:

Ah yes, I see things are organized a little differently in SM2.

But I do not see the classic theme. Will that be available in SM2?

(BTW, I don't know if this affecting how things look, but I am running SM2 on 
Windows 7 RC.)


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SeaMonkey 2 and Thunderbird 3

2009-06-08 Thread David Wilkinson
I'm sure there will be many good things in SM2, but for me the most important 
order of business is getting the FireFox 3 rendering engine. Already there are 
several sites I use (one in particular) that do not render well in SM1.x.


So my question is: Is the release of SM2 being delayed until Thunderbird 3 is 
finished?


Compatibility with TB is good, but if (as might appear) the release of TB3 is 
not a matter of great urgency, I am concerned.


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Automatic mail read

2009-06-08 Thread Broadback
I am using 1.1.6 with this version and previous the automatic mail read 
seems hit and miss. I have 10 email addresses, when I start SM it always 
reads some but it seems not others. The same happens on the scheduled 
reads, I have found this out as I expected emails (plural) on a 
particular address, but none arrived. I immediately opened that address 
then used the "Get Msgs" button to find a number downloaded. This 
happens quite frequently, any ideas please?

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