Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Gabriel Cabillón wrote:

 Rick Merrill wrote:

 Mark Hansen wrote:

 On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:



 maps.google.com with SM enter
 Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
 map won't snap!

 works with IE

 - beats me



 Went right to it for me.


 I have enabled images, cookies, popups, but it still says
 "Loading..." - does not lock up but does not go to map - just
 stays on the USA map.

 - willing-to-try-anything


 Make sure you have checked "Change images" on Preferences, Advanced,
 Scripts&  Plugins.





AH HA! THANK YOU! BINGO!


Nice catch, Gabriel.   -JW
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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Paul]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lee wrote:


Your browser will be unsupported soon.
Please upgrade to a modern browser.


Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.


"On March 13, we are dropping support for your browser. You'll still be 
able to watch videos after that date, but new features may not work 
properly.


There must be 50 ways to leave your browser—here are 5:"
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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Paul]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lee wrote:


Your browser will be unsupported soon.
Please upgrade to a modern browser.


Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.


On the opening page:
"Your browser will be unsupported soon.
Please upgrade to a modern browser.".

Next are links to IE8, FF36, etc.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) 
Gecko/20090605 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 Firefox/2.0.0.24

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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 4:27 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:


On 2/27/2010 12:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Lee wrote:


Your browser will be unsupported soon. Please upgrade to a modern
browser.


Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.

Does your browser report itself as "Firefox/2.0.0.20"?

I think that's the OP's problem.

Nope, mine doesn't. Reveal my mail headers and see.

His, on the other hand, says:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) 
Gecko/20100205 Suck Firefox/2.0.0.20 SeaMonkey/2.0.3




Yes, this was the point I was making. You implied that it was
working in your browser.


And so it is.

But I see the problem's solved, so it's all water under the bridge.

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[William Morrison]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:



maps.google.com with SM enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 
01453-4265

map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me



Went right to it for me.


I have enabled images, cookies, popups, but it still says
"Loading..." - does not lock up but does not go to map - just
stays on the USA map.

- willing-to-try-anything


even poking the url into the address field does nothing:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=1&jsv=209c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.724817,56.337891&ie=UTF8&geocode=FYcoVAId4y1o-w&split=0 






I plugged in just the street address from above and it shows me a wooded 
area on the south side of the street with a square warehouse building 
with offices on the front and list the businesses here as Anglers & 
Archers 
?  
and Still Alive Taxidermy 
?   
looks to be a semi trailer parked in the area just passed the employee 
parking.  The is using Windows XP SP3 and Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 
SeaMonkey/2.0.3



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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 5:14 PM, Frog wrote:
> Sorry Mark, that was not the problem.  I checked every entry and I 
> believe they are all correct.  Now, I am back to looking for solution 
> for my problem.
> 
> Frog
> 

So make sure that SM 1.1.X is not running, launch SM 2.X and make
sure you can reproduce the problem. If so, start a new thread for
that question (since it's not on topic in this thread) - more people
are likely to look at it then.

Good luck, and I'll watch the other thread in case I can provide any
help there, but as I don't have 2.X installed yet, I'm not sure I can.

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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 4:49 PM, Frog wrote:
> I think I found the critter that is causing my problem.  Each of the 
> accounts in 2.0.3 are pointing to:
> 
> Local Directory
> C:Documents and Settings\Frog\Application 
> Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\x1pcx8dh\Mail\Local Folders
> 
> I believe this entry (in 2.0.3) is pointing to a location in 1.1.18. 
> That is not where it should be pointing.  Now, if I am right, I need to 
> figure out where it should be pointing in 2.0.3.
> 
> Frog

I would double check with someone before making any changes. SM 2.X
should not be confused about where to find its profile data (unless
you did some profile location tweaking since you installed it).

Word to the wise...
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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 4:32 PM, Frog wrote:
> Snip
>>>
>>> Now I need to learn how to make the items listed under Go on the 2.0.3
>>> mail page turn black.
>> 
>> I have no idea what this means. Perhaps you don't have your e-mail or
>> newsgroup accounts setup in your 2.X profile yet?
>> 
> 
> I hope I can make sense out of this for you.  On 1.1.18 Mail window I
> can click "Go" at the top of the screen (the line just under the blue
> banner)and see the following:
> 
> Next >
> Previous  >
> ___
> Mail Start Page
> ___
> f...@pond.com  >
> Local Folders  >
> Microsoft Help  >
> Mozilla Help  >
> etc.
> 
> All are in black letters except Mail Start Page, and that entry is in
> gray letters.  The same listing is visible in 2.0.3 but the only items
> in black letters are Next and Previous--all other entries are gray
> letters.  I need to know how to make the gray letters in 2.0.3 black so
> that I can click on them to make them take me to the items clicked.
> That is how it now works in 1.1.8.
> 
> When I click Edit>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... on the 2.0.3 mail 
> page, I see all of my accounts listed.  Thus, the account information 
> made the migration okay---but it appears to be turned off in the "Go" 
> area.  Does this make sense?

Yes. I wasn't confused about that. Sorry my response wasn't clear. What
I meant was: "I don't have any idea what is causing that..."

> Also, I am not finding the setting that I need to fix so that
> downloading messages to 2.0.3 will not remove them from the server.

Well, I use IMAP, and it seems this is not an option there (since
IMAP leaves the messages on the server anyway) so someone else will
have to help you with that.

By the way, don't you already have that set? If you don't, then when
you "Get new messages" with 2.X, it will remove them from the server,
such that you won't be able to get the messages in your SM 1.1.X
instance.

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Re: new form manager is great

[Phillip Jones]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

»Q« wrote:

In,
Phillip Joneswrote:


»Q« wrote:

In,
Bill Davidsen wrote:


Well this is the very first and only person I have every met who
actually /likes/ the new crippled forms manager.


People who don't like it don't come to a support forum about it;


I didn't comment before, but the issue is they *do* come!


they're just happily using their browsers.  I find the current
behavior *much* preferable to the old.


Not I.


Case in point.  People who do like it don't come to the support
group to
say so, whereas there are a few posters in the support group who've
said they don't like it several dozen times each.  And they continue to
say it every time someone so much as mentions the feature.


Shouldn't that tell you something, as said previously very few people
even know these groups exist. They are either told by other that do know
or stumble upon them if they get aggravated enough to try to find help.
Most just stew in their own juices. Or for complete newbies, are unware
that valuable features are missing from the version they have.


Honestly, the real shame is not that there are features that they
don't have,
it's that there *are* features they don't know they have. I suspect
that most
users are missing a handful of things which would make them either more
productive or happier.

That said, Phil Chee is a prince among men for giving us a usable form
manager
extension.


Yes he needs to elevated to lead Mozilla Developer.


My first thought about that is that "no good deed goes unpunished."



If he could get so much accomplished in the extension he writes or rewrites
Maybe he could shake up things.Get folks to think outside their comfort 
zone.

Be more Responsive to what users want instead of just what developers want.

--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net   http://www.vpea.org
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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Frog]

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:

Snip


Now I need to learn how to make the items listed under Go on the 2.0.3
mail page turn black.


I have no idea what this means. Perhaps you don't have your e-mail or
newsgroup accounts setup in your 2.X profile yet?



I hope I can make sense out of this for you.  On 1.1.18 Mail window I
can click "Go" at the top of the screen (the line just under the blue
banner)and see the following:

Next >
Previous  >
___
Mail Start Page
___
f...@pond.com  >
Local Folders  >
Microsoft Help  >
Mozilla Help  >
etc.

All are in black letters except Mail Start Page, and that entry is in
gray letters.  The same listing is visible in 2.0.3 but the only items
in black letters are Next and Previous--all other entries are gray
letters.  I need to know how to make the gray letters in 2.0.3 black so
that I can click on them to make them take me to the items clicked.
That is how it now works in 1.1.8.

When I click Edit>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... on the 2.0.3 
mail page, I see all of my accounts listed.  Thus, the account 
information made the migration okay---but it appears to be turned off 
in the "Go" area.  Does this make sense?


I hope this clarification will help--if now, let me know and I will try
again.

Also, I am not finding the setting that I need to fix so that
downloading messages to 2.0.3 will not remove them from the server.

Thanks for the continued help.
Frog


I think I found the critter that is causing my problem.  Each of the 
accounts in 2.0.3 are pointing to:


Local Directory
C:Documents and Settings\Frog\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\x1pcx8dh\Mail\Local Folders


I believe this entry (in 2.0.3) is pointing to a location in 1.1.18. 
That is not where it should be pointing.  Now, if I am right, I need to 
figure out where it should be pointing in 2.0.3.


Frog





Sorry Mark, that was not the problem.  I checked every entry and I 
believe they are all correct.  Now, I am back to looking for solution 
for my problem.


Frog

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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 4:27 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
> 
>> On 2/27/2010 12:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> 
>>> Lee wrote:
>>> 
 Your browser will be unsupported soon. Please upgrade to a modern
 browser.
 
>>> Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.
>> 
>> Does your browser report itself as "Firefox/2.0.0.20"?
>> 
>> I think that's the OP's problem.
> 
> Nope, mine doesn't. Reveal my mail headers and see.
> 
> His, on the other hand, says:
> 
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) 
> Gecko/20100205 Suck Firefox/2.0.0.20 SeaMonkey/2.0.3
> 

Yes, this was the point I was making. You implied that it was
working in your browser.

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Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

[Bill Davidsen]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

James Greenidge avait soumis l'idée :

Greetings:



A clueless non-techie just asking you mavens out there; Is it possible
via special plug-ins to turn Composer into a full-fledged word
processor?



Thanks for any remarks.



Jim

I suppose you are aware that composer's goal is to produce web pages.
The code to involved for this isn't the same as for word processing.

Drive a 4 wheel driven jeep when in heavy accidented terrain.
Drive a sedan while on a smooth motorway.



Bernard, I'm not convinced that your metaphor is correct. For the OP a
page-is-a-page; in fact lots of people use MS Word to compose web pages
since it can output html code. Lots of people love to "publish" via web
pages. More and more people "read" web pages ;-)


Ahh yes but to put it mildly, Word makes absolutely lousy html Code.
Don't believe it. Borrow a Copy of DreamWeaver and go to Tools menu and
choose Fix MS Word HTML. The html in word is used more for embellishing
text with bold, italic. underline They only place it renders properly is
to dowload it and open again in Office.


If your document is going to "live" as a web page, your word processor
should produce it.

I think the OP's question makes a lot of sense, especially in terms of
cloud computing and assuming that resources (e.g. speed) are not a
concern.

Which is more of a kludge: putting "links" into word processors (as we
know them) or putting Table Of Contents into Composer?

I see the OP's question as correctly portending the merger of word
processing and web page composition until there is no longer a
distinction.


sorry sorry sorry - my use of "ms word" is a red herring! pls ignore.



In an ideal world word processor should produce validatable html code.

I have to try OO the next time I'm using a current version. See how well that 
does. But Composer, at least the recent one, is good enough for most of what I 
do. My needs are simple. ;-)


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Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

[Bill Davidsen]

JeffM wrote:

JeffM wrote:

If you are going to put something on a Port 80 location,
make it **REAL** HTML.


Rick Merrill wrote:

"Real?"
Have you ever tried to get google/yahoo/cnn html code to "validate"?!


I have said here MANY times that
there is a great number of people trying to pass themselves off
as qualified Web developers who have no clue what they are doing.
Large corporations do not have immunity from the scourge.


There is no agreement on the meaning of "real".


Of course there is.
Just because Ebonics was pushed as legit by misguided people
doesn't mean there isn't a standard for spoken and written English.

W3C==WorldWide Web Consortium.
*Those* are the folks who maintain the Web standards
and who get to say what is proper Web coding
and what is a steaming pile of broken code.
Their tools are readily available and they are free.
You can even select what levels of the standards you use.
There is no excuse for publishing crap code.
The reasons you encounter it are sloth and ignorance.

In some diciplines, standards are enforced
(think: National Electrical Code).  In others, charlatans abound.


Well said. Of course there are two standards, the other is "works with IE" 
regardless. Someone mentioned a site which snooped browser and excluded other 
browsers, because "people keep complaining about my HTML." Microsoft is a 
$tandard to some people.


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Re: Warning to upgrade

[Bill Davidsen]

Daniel wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Why is 2.0.3 telling me there's a new version available and I should
download 2.0.3? Is it looking at the version of the default SM in
/usr/bin instead of what I'm running which is 2.0.3 (not pre on this
machine)?

I leave the distribution default in /usr/bin and run the latest stable
or pre out of /usr/local/ instead.

This is not an error report, I'd just like to know why in case I set up
a user this way.



Bill, don't know if it matters but your header indicates you're using
SM 1.1.16!!


Different machine, this one is used only for a few groups and filling
out forms. Until the last few days the forms capability in 2.0.x has
been less than I need, although the add-on from Phil Chee seems to have
fixed that and I plan to migrate. Of course the forms will not migrate
and I will have to do them all over, so I'm being hesitant about it.

Thanks for taking the time to check, but I really was on a 2.0.3 machine
when I saw the problem.



O.K., Bill how aboutWhen you were on SM 2.0.2, you had it set to 
check for updates each week, and, just a couple of days after SM 2.0.2 
did a check you heard here that 2.0.3 was out so you, manually, 
downloaded and installed the update, then several days later SM (that 
was 2.0.2) was doing its weekly check and found the update to 2.0.3 was 
available!


i.e. before actually doing the update, SM did not check to see what 
version it (itself) was.


Could this fit with your situation, Bill??

Almost. I didn't manually download in the "get the tarball" sense, but it's 
certainly possible that I clicked "check for updates" and applied 2.0.3 from 
there. I normally disable the automatic upgrade, but clearly the check was still 
there. ;-)


In any case it's a possible cause, and when 2.0.4 comes out I'll make careful 
notes of what options are set if I get a similar reminder.


I'll add to this thread if I have more info. Thanks for the ideas.

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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Frog]

Frog wrote:

Snip


Now I need to learn how to make the items listed under Go on the 2.0.3
mail page turn black.


I have no idea what this means. Perhaps you don't have your e-mail or
newsgroup accounts setup in your 2.X profile yet?



I hope I can make sense out of this for you.  On 1.1.18 Mail window I
can click "Go" at the top of the screen (the line just under the blue
banner)and see the following:

Next >
Previous  >
___
Mail Start Page
___
f...@pond.com  >
Local Folders  >
Microsoft Help  >
Mozilla Help  >
etc.

All are in black letters except Mail Start Page, and that entry is in
gray letters.  The same listing is visible in 2.0.3 but the only items
in black letters are Next and Previous--all other entries are gray
letters.  I need to know how to make the gray letters in 2.0.3 black so
that I can click on them to make them take me to the items clicked.
That is how it now works in 1.1.8.

When I click Edit>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... on the 2.0.3 mail 
page, I see all of my accounts listed.  Thus, the account information 
made the migration okay---but it appears to be turned off in the "Go" 
area.  Does this make sense?


I hope this clarification will help--if now, let me know and I will try
again.

Also, I am not finding the setting that I need to fix so that
downloading messages to 2.0.3 will not remove them from the server.

Thanks for the continued help.
Frog


I think I found the critter that is causing my problem.  Each of the 
accounts in 2.0.3 are pointing to:


Local Directory
C:Documents and Settings\Frog\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\x1pcx8dh\Mail\Local Folders


I believe this entry (in 2.0.3) is pointing to a location in 1.1.18. 
That is not where it should be pointing.  Now, if I am right, I need to 
figure out where it should be pointing in 2.0.3.


Frog






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Re: new form manager is great

[Bill Davidsen]

»Q« wrote:

In ,
Phillip Jones  wrote:


»Q« wrote:

In,
Phillip Jones  wrote:


»Q« wrote:

In,
Bill Davidsen   wrote:


Well this is the very first and only person I have every met who
actually /likes/ the new crippled forms manager.

People who don't like it don't come to a support forum about it;
they're just happily using their browsers.  I find the current
behavior *much* preferable to the old.

Not I.

Case in point.  People who do like it don't come to the support
group to say so, whereas there are a few posters in the support
group who've said they don't like it several dozen times each.  And
they continue to say it every time someone so much as mentions the
feature.

Shouldn't that tell you something,


Yes, it tells me they think that repeating the same thing over and over
might make it seem more important than if they just said it once or
even a few times.


as said previously very few people even know these groups exist.


Sure, and a few of the people who do know the groups exist really miss
the old form manager.

I have mixed feelings about that statement, because it's true, but there's more 
than that. Because if the new forms manager would solve the problem of filling 
in forms, people would have grumbled but would not have been so intense. Yes, my 
opinion, I don't claim any divine origin for it. ;-)


But the new "form manager" is more of a "form fields" manager, in that it not 
only lets you make choices on every field, but it forces you to do so. At least 
in my attempts it didn't treat a form as a set of values, but a group of sets of 
field values. So it didn't really save much time, because all of the fields with 
multiple possible values needed to be visited.


Now we have an extension, it works, I think I have found a technique to use is 
much better, and when I am sure I'm doing an intended use and pass it to Phil to 
make sure he agrees, then I'll write it up and pass it on. Until then I won't 
lead anyone into something which may fail in a corner case.



And one or two of those are not satisfied with the extensions(s) they
can use with SM 2 for it.

You will never satisfy everyone, and I hope no developer gets depressed by that, 
or expects happy users to be vocal users. As someone told me a decade ago, "bug 
tracking systems don't include a category for praise."


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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Frog]

Snip


Now I need to learn how to make the items listed under Go on the 2.0.3
mail page turn black.


I have no idea what this means. Perhaps you don't have your e-mail or
newsgroup accounts setup in your 2.X profile yet?



I hope I can make sense out of this for you.  On 1.1.18 Mail window I
can click "Go" at the top of the screen (the line just under the blue
banner)and see the following:

Next >
Previous  >
___
Mail Start Page
___
f...@pond.com  >
Local Folders  >
Microsoft Help  >
Mozilla Help  >
etc.

All are in black letters except Mail Start Page, and that entry is in
gray letters.  The same listing is visible in 2.0.3 but the only items
in black letters are Next and Previous--all other entries are gray
letters.  I need to know how to make the gray letters in 2.0.3 black so
that I can click on them to make them take me to the items clicked.
That is how it now works in 1.1.8.

When I click Edit>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... on the 2.0.3 mail 
page, I see all of my accounts listed.  Thus, the account information 
made the migration okay---but it appears to be turned off in the "Go" 
area.  Does this make sense?


I hope this clarification will help--if now, let me know and I will try
again.

Also, I am not finding the setting that I need to fix so that
downloading messages to 2.0.3 will not remove them from the server.

Thanks for the continued help.
Frog




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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mark Hansen wrote:


On 2/27/2010 12:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Lee wrote:


Your browser will be unsupported soon. Please upgrade to a modern
browser.


Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.


Does your browser report itself as "Firefox/2.0.0.20"?

I think that's the OP's problem.


Nope, mine doesn't. Reveal my mail headers and see.

His, on the other hand, says:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) 
Gecko/20100205 Suck Firefox/2.0.0.20 SeaMonkey/2.0.3


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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Rick Merrill]

Gabriel Cabillón wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:



maps.google.com with SM enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me



Went right to it for me.


I have enabled images, cookies, popups, but it still says
"Loading..." - does not lock up but does not go to map - just
stays on the USA map.

- willing-to-try-anything


Make sure you have checked "Change images" on Preferences, Advanced,
Scripts & Plugins.





AH HA! THANK YOU! BINGO!



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Re: new form manager is great

[Bill Davidsen]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

»Q« wrote:

In,
Phillip Jones   wrote:


»Q« wrote:

In,
Bill Davidsenwrote:


Well this is the very first and only person I have every met who
actually /likes/ the new crippled forms manager.


People who don't like it don't come to a support forum about it;


I didn't comment before, but the issue is they *do* come!


they're just happily using their browsers.  I find the current
behavior *much* preferable to the old.


Not I.


Case in point.  People who do like it don't come to the support 
group to

say so, whereas there are a few posters in the support group who've
said they don't like it several dozen times each.  And they continue to
say it every time someone so much as mentions the feature.


Shouldn't that tell you something, as said previously very few people
even know these groups exist. They are either told by other that do know
or stumble upon them if they get aggravated enough to try to find help.
Most just stew in their own juices. Or for complete newbies, are unware
that valuable features are missing from the version they have.

Honestly, the real shame is not that there are features that they 
don't have,
it's that there *are* features they don't know they have. I suspect 
that most

users are missing a handful of things which would make them either more
productive or happier.

That said, Phil Chee is a prince among men for giving us a usable form 
manager

extension.


Yes he needs to elevated to lead Mozilla Developer.


My first thought about that is that "no good deed goes unpunished."

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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 3:42 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> Well, I have made a little progress at this point.

Great!

> 
> I now know that the mail ICON I have on my desktop belongs to 1.1.18.
> It is located as follows:
> C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -mail
> As I stated my earlier message, C:Program Files\mozilla.org\Seamonkey
> contains information pertaining to 1.1.8.  I based this fact on going to
> Windows Explorer>C:\Program Files\mozilla>selecting Properties>looked at
> the Created date of Monday, Feb 04, 2008, 12:20.  That tell me that the
> ICON on my desktop (before this message) belongs to 1.1.18.

Okay.

> 
> I next clicked the web page on my desktop for 2.0.3>clicked Help of the

By "clicked on the web page", I assume you mean the desktop shortcut.


> Web page>clicked About SeaMonkey>and the window that opened displays
> "SeaMonkey Version 2.0.3."  I now know that I am in the new SeaMonkey
> version.  I next clicked Windows>Mail & Newsgroups>and I was taken to
> the 2.0.3 mail page.  Note; All of the items under Go on the mail page
> where my newsgroups and inbox are listed are grayed out.  Thus, I now
> know that my last message on the newsgroup was prepared on 1.1.18 not
> 2.0.3 as I thought.
> 
> Now I need to learn how to make the items listed under Go on the 2.0.3
> mail page turn black.

I have no idea what this means. Perhaps you don't have your e-mail or
newsgroup accounts setup in your 2.X profile yet?

> 
> My Desktop ICONs point to executable files.

Great. I think this is important in being able to keep two different
versions of SM on the computer.

> 
> For 1.1.18 I see the following: "C:\Program
> Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -mail

Great.

> 
> I have not been doing this up to now.  I have been looking at the bottom
> of my screen where all of the software items running on my system are 
> identified in own tabs.  I will start checking the task manager before 
> clicking a  SeaMonkey ICON.

That would be going too far, IMHO. You do *not* have to check the
task manager each time you want to launch SM. If when you launch
SM, you don't get the version you think you should, use the task
manager as a way to see if you currently have an instance running.

Really though, if you don't have the SM 1.1.X quick launch configured,
and there are no browser windows visible (on the window or in the
task bar) then you're probably good to go.

>> 
>> Note that there is a way to run both at the same time, but this
>> requires some additional effort, which I didn't mention as you
>> said you didn't want to run them both at the same time.
> 
> I will make this change as soon as I know that both systems are loaded
> and working properly--one version at a time.  As you can see, I will 
> need some very elementary lever instructions on how this is accomplished.

Note that you don't *need* to run both versions at the same time. In
fact you probably don't want to do this at all. Unless you feel you
need to do this for some reason, just don't do it.

Your plan should be to eventually have just one version of SM on
the computer. As soon as you are comfortable with SM 2.X, then
stop running SM 1.1.X (and fix up the 'leave messages on server',
etc.).

>> 
>> I don't know about where 2.X places it's profile info, so the above
>> may or may not be correct. I'll let someone else answer. However,
>> SM 1.1.X and SM 2.X will each use their own profile, so I don't
>> think it matters too much - so long as you didn't tweak either
>> version to use a custom location such that one may be using the
>> location used by the other.
> 
> I believe--repeat--I believe that they are separated completely from one 
> another--at least that is how it appears to this very low level 
> technician.

You shouldn't have to worry about the location of the profiles. Each
version of SM will work with the correct profile. If I were you, I
would just ignore the profiles for now.

> 
> Thanks to you, I now have working ICONs on my Desktop for both versions. 
> Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Sounds great.

> 
> I now need to know how to fix the grayed out items under the mail 
> page>Go pertaining to my listing of mail and newsgroup entries.  Any 
> suggestions?

See above. Otherwise, I'm not sure what is going on with that.
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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Frog]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 1:23 PM, Frog wrote:
Ok, I will have to think about this for a moment.  I presently have 2 
ICONs on my desktop--one opens the web page window for 2.0.3 and the 
other opens the web page for 1.1.18.  That is what I want for the web 
pages.  Now, I am attempting to create 2 additional ICONs on the desktop 
for opening mail in each version.  The ICON for 2.0.3 (which for now 
will not be my default browser) was established when 2.0.3 was 
installed.  When I click it, it keeps asking me if I want to make it my 
default browser.  When I say no, it reverts (I think) to 1.1.18.


No. This should not be happening. See more below.


Well, I have made a little progress at this point.

I now know that the mail ICON I have on my desktop belongs to 1.1.18.
It is located as follows:
C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -mail
As I stated my earlier message, C:Program Files\mozilla.org\Seamonkey
contains information pertaining to 1.1.8.  I based this fact on going to
Windows Explorer>C:\Program Files\mozilla>selecting Properties>looked at
the Created date of Monday, Feb 04, 2008, 12:20.  That tell me that the
ICON on my desktop (before this message) belongs to 1.1.18.

I next clicked the web page on my desktop for 2.0.3>clicked Help of the
Web page>clicked About SeaMonkey>and the window that opened displays
"SeaMonkey Version 2.0.3."  I now know that I am in the new SeaMonkey
version.  I next clicked Windows>Mail & Newsgroups>and I was taken to
the 2.0.3 mail page.  Note; All of the items under Go on the mail page
where my newsgroups and inbox are listed are grayed out.  Thus, I now
know that my last message on the newsgroup was prepared on 1.1.18 not
2.0.3 as I thought.

Now I need to learn how to make the items listed under Go on the 2.0.3
mail page turn black.




  I say
this because--when I click Help and then About SeaMonkey (subsequent to 
clicking NO to the default question) I see a window that opens to 
1.1.18.  I'm not sure what is going on at the moment.  I think I am 
sending this message using 2.0.3--but I'm not sure of that 
fact--because, after clicking help, I again see 1.1.18.


When you go to Help -> About and see 1.1.18, then you are running
version 1.1.18.


See information above.


If you believe you're launching SM 2.0.3 and are getting 1.1.18, then
something is not set up correctly.


See information above.


This could be one of a couple problems that I can think of off-hand.
First, how do you have the shortcut set up on the desktop. Shortcuts
can point to an executable, or they can be "web" shortcuts, where
they just reference a web resource (like an HTML file) and allow
the system to determine the application to launch.


My Desktop ICONs point to executable files.


When you go to Properties on the shortcut, do you see the full path
to the seamonkey.exe executable in the Target field? If not, then
this may be your problem.


For 1.1.18 I see the following: "C:\Program
Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -mail



Second problem is that when one version of SM is running, trying to
launch the other will just give you a new window to the currently-
running version. For example, say SM 1.1.X is currently running (even
if it's just the quick launch icon) and you launch the 2.X version
of SM, you will just get a new SM 1.1.X window.


I do understand.  I will attempt to make the fix you suggested during
our earlier newsgroup conversation as soon as I get the two versions 
working.


Before you can launch SM 2.X, you need to make sure you have no
instance of SM 1.1.X running at all. If you're not sure, check
the processes in the task manager - you should see no "seamonkey.exe"
process running.


I have not been doing this up to now.  I have been looking at the bottom
of my screen where all of the software items running on my system are 
identified in own tabs.  I will start checking the task manager before 
clicking a  SeaMonkey ICON.


Note that there is a way to run both at the same time, but this
requires some additional effort, which I didn't mention as you
said you didn't want to run them both at the same time.


I will make this change as soon as I know that both systems are loaded
and working properly--one version at a time.  As you can see, I will 
need some very elementary lever instructions on how this is accomplished.




Note: I allowed to installation to install in the default locations.

I have the following under Documents and Settings:

C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla\
  Extensions
  Profiles
  SeaMonkey
I believe the Extensions and Profiles Folders are connected with 1.1.18, 
while SeaMonkey is associated with 2.0.3.


I don't know about where 2.X places it's profile info, so the above
may or may not be correct. I'll let someone else answer. However,
SM 1.1.X and SM 2.X will each use their own profile, so I don't
think it matters 

Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 1:23 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> Ok, I will have to think about this for a moment.  I presently have 2 
> ICONs on my desktop--one opens the web page window for 2.0.3 and the 
> other opens the web page for 1.1.18.  That is what I want for the web 
> pages.  Now, I am attempting to create 2 additional ICONs on the desktop 
> for opening mail in each version.  The ICON for 2.0.3 (which for now 
> will not be my default browser) was established when 2.0.3 was 
> installed.  When I click it, it keeps asking me if I want to make it my 
> default browser.  When I say no, it reverts (I think) to 1.1.18.

No. This should not be happening. See more below.


>   I say
> this because--when I click Help and then About SeaMonkey (subsequent to 
> clicking NO to the default question) I see a window that opens to 
> 1.1.18.  I'm not sure what is going on at the moment.  I think I am 
> sending this message using 2.0.3--but I'm not sure of that 
> fact--because, after clicking help, I again see 1.1.18.

When you go to Help -> About and see 1.1.18, then you are running
version 1.1.18.

If you believe you're launching SM 2.0.3 and are getting 1.1.18, then
something is not set up correctly.

This could be one of a couple problems that I can think of off-hand.
First, how do you have the shortcut set up on the desktop. Shortcuts
can point to an executable, or they can be "web" shortcuts, where
they just reference a web resource (like an HTML file) and allow
the system to determine the application to launch.

When you go to Properties on the shortcut, do you see the full path
to the seamonkey.exe executable in the Target field? If not, then
this may be your problem.

Second problem is that when one version of SM is running, trying to
launch the other will just give you a new window to the currently-
running version. For example, say SM 1.1.X is currently running (even
if it's just the quick launch icon) and you launch the 2.X version
of SM, you will just get a new SM 1.1.X window.

Before you can launch SM 2.X, you need to make sure you have no
instance of SM 1.1.X running at all. If you're not sure, check
the processes in the task manager - you should see no "seamonkey.exe"
process running.

Note that there is a way to run both at the same time, but this
requires some additional effort, which I didn't mention as you
said you didn't want to run them both at the same time.


> 
> Note: I allowed to installation to install in the default locations.
> 
> I have the following under Documents and Settings:
> 
> C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla\
>   Extensions
>   Profiles
>   SeaMonkey
> I believe the Extensions and Profiles Folders are connected with 1.1.18, 
> while SeaMonkey is associated with 2.0.3.

I don't know about where 2.X places it's profile info, so the above
may or may not be correct. I'll let someone else answer. However,
SM 1.1.X and SM 2.X will each use their own profile, so I don't
think it matters too much - so long as you didn't tweak either
version to use a custom location such that one may be using the
location used by the other.

> 
> I have the following under Program Files:
> 
> C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey (followed by a number of sub folders.
> I believe this is associated with 1.1.18
> 
> C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey (followed by a number of sub folders).
> I believe this is associated with 2.0.3

That seems reasonable.

> 
> 
> Now I must determine how to do what you suggest.  I am not sure that I 
> can understand your recommendation--thus, I will likely be back with 
> further questions.

On your desktop, right-click and select New -> Shortcut
In the "Type the location of the item" entry field, enter the full path
to the "seamonkey.exe" executable. For the SM 1.1 icon, this will be
  "C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"
For the SM 2.X icon, this will be:
  "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"

In the "Type a name for this shortcut" entry field, you can enter
"SM 1.1.18" for SM 1.1.X and "SM 2.0.3" for SM 2.X (or whatever you
like).

This should give you shortcuts to launch each version of the browser.

You can then add two additional shortcuts created just like the above,
except adding the "-mail" command line option, as in:

  "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -mail"

and name those icons something like "SM 2.X EMail".
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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Ray_Net]

Frog wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 11:57 AM, Frog wrote:

I just added SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system. I anticipated that I would
have to re-establish my ICONs for 1.1.8 on my desktop when I started
this process. I, however, am having a memory moment--I can't remember
where the mail short cut points to. The loading of the new 2.0.3
version is working just fine so far.

Frog


Thank you Mark for helping me again.


You probably mean SM 1.1.18. If not, you should probably consider
upgrading your 1.1 version to 1.1.18.


Yes, I was talking about 1.1.18--sorry for my mistake.


To launch SM 1.1.X and have it open the Mail & Newsgroups windows,
just pass it the -mail command line option, as in:

C:\seamonkey-1.1\seamonkey.exe -mail

where C:\seamonkey-1.1 is the directory where SM 1.1.X is installed.


Ok, I will have to think about this for a moment. I presently have 2
ICONs on my desktop--one opens the web page window for 2.0.3 and the
other opens the web page for 1.1.18. That is what I want for the web
pages. Now, I am attempting to create 2 additional ICONs on the desktop
for opening mail in each version. The ICON for 2.0.3 (which for now will
not be my default browser) was established when 2.0.3 was installed.
When I click it, it keeps asking me if I want to make it my default
browser. When I say no, it reverts (I think) to 1.1.18. I say this
because--when I click Help and then About SeaMonkey (subsequent to
clicking NO to the default question) I see a window that opens to
1.1.18. I'm not sure what is going on at the moment. I think I am
sending this message using 2.0.3--but I'm not sure of that
fact--because, after clicking help, I again see 1.1.18.

Note: I allowed to installation to install in the default locations.

I have the following under Documents and Settings:

C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla\
Extensions
Profiles
SeaMonkey
I believe the Extensions and Profiles Folders are connected with 1.1.18,
while SeaMonkey is associated with 2.0.3.



Examining the creation dates of folders tell me that only "profiles" is 
for 1.1.18 and that "Extensions" and "Seamonkey" are for 2.0.3.

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Re: Progress Window Mockups

[Phillip Jones]

Benoit Renard wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok Here is the deal:

A vocal minority of people who USE the progress windows don't like them
as they stand.

These people wish to have changes made.

KaiRo, the original owner of this area has abandoned it due to "stop
energy" when he tried to make improvements.

*I* Am willing to pickup work, however I am self-proclaimed "not good at
UI".


I spearheaded some work myself, through a patch to get the buttons back,
before KaiRo cancelled my patch when he started working on it. Neil
contributed a patch of his own at the end, so I wonder how the window
looks like at the moment.

Most people seem to just want the old progress window back instead of
reinventing the wheel.

we want the *style* of the progress windows as in SM 1.1.18, not the
code.


Why thank you, Captain Obvious.>_>
Not its not that obvious. in previous threads about another subject many 
were explaining they code not port the code. and t was pointed out their 
it was not the code we wanted ported it was what the code originally did.


I am avoiding bring up the subject of that thread. so we won't go on 
subject.


It means look at the old way (open up the old version) possibly do some 
scree shoots the emulate that action using the new code.


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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Gabriel Cabillón]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:



maps.google.com with SM enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me



Went right to it for me.


I have enabled images, cookies, popups, but it still says
"Loading..." - does not lock up but does not go to map - just
stays on the USA map.

- willing-to-try-anything


Make sure you have checked "Change images" on Preferences, Advanced, 
Scripts & Plugins.



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Re: Adobe Flash Player

[Cruz, Jaime]

Rufus wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Has anyone been able to get the new Flash Player to install on Windows?
Instead of just downloading an executable to run, they've decided to get
fancy and use Mozilla's "XPI" package instead.

The only problem is, when you try to install it, you get a message
telling you it isn't compatible with Seamonkey 2.0.3!! WTF??

Has anyone gotten this to work?
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/



Installed just fine for me, and works...SM 2.0.3, on a MacBook Pro.

I finally found the link to DOWNLOAD the installer.  Had to dig for it. 
The default attempts to install with an XPI that doesn't recognize 
Seamonkey.  Once I had that, it installed and works just fine.



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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Frog]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 11:57 AM, Frog wrote:
I just added SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system.  I anticipated that I would 
have to re-establish my ICONs for 1.1.8 on my desktop when I started 
this process.  I, however, am having a memory moment--I can't remember 
where the mail short cut points to.  The loading of the new 2.0.3 
version is working just fine so far.


Frog


Thank you Mark for helping me again.


You probably mean SM 1.1.18. If not, you should probably consider
upgrading your 1.1 version to 1.1.18.


Yes, I was talking about 1.1.18--sorry for my mistake.


To launch SM 1.1.X and have it open the Mail & Newsgroups windows,
just pass it the -mail command line option, as in:

  C:\seamonkey-1.1\seamonkey.exe -mail

where C:\seamonkey-1.1 is the directory where SM 1.1.X is installed.


Ok, I will have to think about this for a moment.  I presently have 2 
ICONs on my desktop--one opens the web page window for 2.0.3 and the 
other opens the web page for 1.1.18.  That is what I want for the web 
pages.  Now, I am attempting to create 2 additional ICONs on the desktop 
for opening mail in each version.  The ICON for 2.0.3 (which for now 
will not be my default browser) was established when 2.0.3 was 
installed.  When I click it, it keeps asking me if I want to make it my 
default browser.  When I say no, it reverts (I think) to 1.1.18.  I say 
this because--when I click Help and then About SeaMonkey (subsequent to 
clicking NO to the default question) I see a window that opens to 
1.1.18.  I'm not sure what is going on at the moment.  I think I am 
sending this message using 2.0.3--but I'm not sure of that 
fact--because, after clicking help, I again see 1.1.18.


Note: I allowed to installation to install in the default locations.

I have the following under Documents and Settings:

C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla\
 Extensions
 Profiles
 SeaMonkey
I believe the Extensions and Profiles Folders are connected with 1.1.18, 
while SeaMonkey is associated with 2.0.3.


I have the following under Program Files:

C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey (followed by a number of sub folders.
I believe this is associated with 1.1.18

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey (followed by a number of sub folders).
I believe this is associated with 2.0.3


Now I must determine how to do what you suggest.  I am not sure that I 
can understand your recommendation--thus, I will likely be back with 
further questions.




Note that you generally can't have both SM 2.X and SM 1.1.X running
at the same time, so make sure you manage this (or look into the
command line options needed to make this possible).


I understand that both versions should not be active at the same time 
until I make the change suggested in an earlier exchange we had on this 
subject.  Thanks for reminding me again.  I still have to fix the server 
 message retain for 2.0.3 and message delete for 1.1.18.





Best Regards,


Thanks for the help,
Frog



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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Rick Merrill]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


- willing-to-try-anything


Whatever you've got that's adding "Firefox 3" to your user agent, try
changing it to "Firefox/3". -JW



Ok. I did that (using about:config) and I can report this:
clicking on the search result link which maps.google.com displays (the 
"A" one) does nothing. But right mouse "open link in new window" works fine.


Could there be a limit on the length of a link?!



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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Rick Merrill wrote:


- willing-to-try-anything


Whatever you've got that's adding "Firefox 3" to your user agent, try 
changing it to "Firefox/3".  -JW

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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 12:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Lee wrote:
> 
>> Your browser will be unsupported soon.
>> Please upgrade to a modern browser.
> 
> Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.
> 

Does your browser report itself as "Firefox/2.0.0.20"?

I think that's the OP's problem.

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Re: Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 11:57 AM, Frog wrote:
> I just added SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system.  I anticipated that I would 
> have to re-establish my ICONs for 1.1.8 on my desktop when I started 
> this process.  I, however, am having a memory moment--I can't remember 
> where the mail short cut points to.  The loading of the new 2.0.3 
> version is working just fine so far.
> 
> Frog

You probably mean SM 1.1.18. If not, you should probably consider
upgrading your 1.1 version to 1.1.18.

To launch SM 1.1.X and have it open the Mail & Newsgroups windows,
just pass it the -mail command line option, as in:

  C:\seamonkey-1.1\seamonkey.exe -mail

where C:\seamonkey-1.1 is the directory where SM 1.1.X is installed.

Note that you generally can't have both SM 2.X and SM 1.1.X running
at the same time, so make sure you manage this (or look into the
command line options needed to make this possible).

Best Regards,

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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Lee wrote:


Your browser will be unsupported soon.
Please upgrade to a modern browser.


Where? I can't find it. And I have an older browser than yours.

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/26/2010 3:16 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Devil's_Advocate wrote:
A couple of days ago, both versions 1.18 and 2.x of Seamonkey quit 
working

with Google Maps and it's a REAL PAIN.

Does anyone know why??

I put in an address and click on it and it comes up on the left side of
Google Maps but NOT in the map area and clicking on the left side does
nothing.

I cant keep using this browser if it quits working.



maps.google seems to stutter: first map is ok, but it won't zoom etc.
earth.google is fine.

Win xp sp3 with SM 2.0.3


I've been using maps.google.com and it zooms just fine. No stuttering
that I can see (but perhaps I don't know what you mean by that).

I've zoomed-in on the main US map that is shown when first visiting
the page, as well as maps shown for specific addresses. I've even
used the street view. All works as expected.

I'm using SM 1.1.16 on Windows XP SP3.

FYI.



maps.google.com  with SM  enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me


Works fine here, AFAICT -- zoom, pan, etc.

What's "snap"?

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Devil's_Advocate wrote:

"S. Beaulieu"   wrote :


Devil's_Advocate a écrit :
A couple of days ago, both versions 1.18 and 2.x of Seamonkey quit 

working

with Google Maps and it's a REAL PAIN.

Does anyone know why??

I put in an address and click on it and it comes up on the left side of
Google Maps but NOT in the map area and clicking on the left side does
nothing.

I cant keep using this browser if it quits working.



Google Maps is working perfectly fine in my SM2.0.3 running on Win7 Pro. 
I don't think SM is to blame.


I'm still using XP.

Is XP no longer workable with Seamonkey?


Works fine here with SM 1.1.16 and WinXP Pro SP3.

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Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

[Frog]

I just added SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system.  I anticipated that I would 
have to re-establish my ICONs for 1.1.8 on my desktop when I started 
this process.  I, however, am having a memory moment--I can't remember 
where the mail short cut points to.  The loading of the new 2.0.3 
version is working just fine so far.


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Re: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

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In ,
Lee  wrote:

> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US;
> rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 Suck Firefox/2.0.0.20 SeaMonkey/2.0.3
   

> Subject: This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

> Your browser will be unsupported soon.
> Please upgrade to a modern browser.

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This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

[Lee]

Your browser will be unsupported soon.
Please upgrade to a modern browser.


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Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

[Bernard Mercier]

Rick Merrill a écrit :
> Bernard Mercier wrote:
>> James Greenidge avait soumis l'idée :
>>> Greetings:
>>
>>> A clueless non-techie just asking you mavens out there; Is it possible
>>> via special plug-ins to turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?
>>
>>> Thanks for any remarks.
>>
>>> Jim
>> I suppose you are aware that composer's goal is to produce web pages.
>> The code to involved for this isn't the same as for word processing.
>>
>> Drive a 4 wheel driven jeep when in heavy accidented terrain.
>> Drive a sedan while on a smooth motorway.
>>

> Bernard, I'm not convinced that your metaphor is correct. For the OP a 
> page-is-a-page; in fact lots of people use MS Word to compose web pages 
> since it can output html code.  Lots of people love to "publish" via web 
> pages. More and more people "read" web pages ;-)

> If your document is going to "live" as a web page, your word processor 
> should produce it.

> I think the OP's question makes a lot of sense, especially in terms of 
> cloud computing and assuming that resources (e.g. speed) are not a concern.

> Which is more of a kludge: putting "links" into word processors (as we 
> know them) or putting Table Of Contents into Composer?

> I see the OP's question as correctly portending the merger of word 
> processing and web page composition until there is no longer a distinction.
I have seen people using excell to make letters.
That doesn't mean it's the good way to do it.

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Rick Merrill]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:



maps.google.com with SM enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me



Went right to it for me.


I have enabled images, cookies, popups, but it still says
"Loading..." - does not lock up but does not go to map - just
stays on the USA map.

- willing-to-try-anything


even poking the url into the address field does nothing:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=1&jsv=209c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.724817,56.337891&ie=UTF8&geocode=FYcoVAId4y1o-w&split=0


(no plugins, no extensions)

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Rick Merrill]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:



maps.google.com  with SM  enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me



Went right to it for me.


I have enabled images, cookies, popups, but it still says
"Loading..."  - does not lock up but does not go to map - just
stays on the USA map.

- willing-to-try-anything
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Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 4:30 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
> David Wilkinson wrote:
>> JeffM wrote:
>>> W3C==WorldWide Web Consortium.
>>> *Those* are the folks who maintain the Web standards
>>> and who get to say what is proper Web coding
>>> and what is a steaming pile of broken code.
>>> Their tools are readily available and they are free.
>>> You can even select what levels of the standards you use.
>>> There is no excuse for publishing crap code.
>>> The reasons you encounter it are sloth and ignorance.
>>>
>>> In some diciplines, standards are enforced
>>> (think: National Electrical Code).  In others, charlatans abound.
>>
>> I thought the introduction of XHTML would improve things, but it seems only 
>> to
>> have introduced more ways in which typical pages can fail validation. Why
>> someone would specify the XHTML DocType when they have made no effort to
>> validate the page is quite beyond me.
>>
> 
> We should have a site where validations (or violations) can be posted: a 
> wall of shame if you will.  Otherwise there are no teeth to the standards.
> 
> 

Of course there are: You don't have to visit the site.

If others want to continue to visit the site even with the errors, why
do you care?
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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/27/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
> 
> 
> maps.google.com  with SM  enter
> Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
> map won't snap!
> 
> works with IE
> 
> - beats me
> 

Went right to it for me.
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Re: Progress Window Mockups

[Benoit Renard]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok Here is the deal:

A vocal minority of people who USE the progress windows don't like them
as they stand.

These people wish to have changes made.

KaiRo, the original owner of this area has abandoned it due to "stop
energy" when he tried to make improvements.

*I* Am willing to pickup work, however I am self-proclaimed "not good at
UI".


I spearheaded some work myself, through a patch to get the buttons back,
before KaiRo cancelled my patch when he started working on it. Neil
contributed a patch of his own at the end, so I wonder how the window
looks like at the moment.

Most people seem to just want the old progress window back instead of
reinventing the wheel.
we want the *style* of the progress windows as in SM 1.1.18, not the 
code.


Why thank you, Captain Obvious. >_>
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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Rick Merrill wrote:

maps.google.com  with SM  enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me



Works perfectly here, with "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; 
en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 NOT Firefox/3.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.3", Win 
XP SP3. Street mode doesn't work on that street, but works just fine on 
"Central St.", nearby.


Check cookies and blockers; try a clean profile.
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Re: Migration help needed 1.1.18 to 2.0.3

[Robert Kaiser]

hawker wrote:

What did work was to uninstall 2.0.3, delete the profile from my user
profile by hand then reinstall 2.0.3. On the second go around it
properly imported everything.


Thanks, that's good to hear. I love it when the migration code does 
actually work. :)


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Re: Progress Window Mockups

[Robert Kaiser]

Dean Scott wrote:

Ah HAA!  So THAT's where the old "launch or run" button that appeared
after download completed hid itself! I was so missing that feature. Yes,
I understand the need for "security" for the more naive in not
presenting them with a big, fat "run" button out in the open like it was
previously, BUT this seasoned veteran had absolutely NO visual
indication that you could click on the filename in this dialog box and
access these two "open" and "open containing folder" options. I was just
about to write a complaint to have this option brought back.


I know, it was pretty undiscoverable, and that was nagging me a long 
time, and I only found a solution when working on getting an actual 
"open" icon button again - which was determined to be not liked in 
ui-review though. :(


In any case, not my playing field any more. :)

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Rick Merrill]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/26/2010 3:16 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Devil's_Advocate wrote:

A couple of days ago, both versions 1.18 and 2.x of Seamonkey quit working
with Google Maps and it's a REAL PAIN.

Does anyone know why??

I put in an address and click on it and it comes up on the left side of
Google Maps but NOT in the map area and clicking on the left side does
nothing.

I cant keep using this browser if it quits working.



maps.google seems to stutter: first map is ok, but it won't zoom etc.
earth.google is fine.

Win xp sp3 with SM 2.0.3


I've been using maps.google.com and it zooms just fine. No stuttering
that I can see (but perhaps I don't know what you mean by that).

I've zoomed-in on the main US map that is shown when first visiting
the page, as well as maps shown for specific addresses. I've even
used the street view. All works as expected.

I'm using SM 1.1.16 on Windows XP SP3.

FYI.



maps.google.com  with SM  enter
Still Alive Taxidermy, 101 Marguerite Avenue, Leominster, MA 01453-4265
map won't snap!

works with IE

- beats me

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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Rick Merrill]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/26/2010 3:16 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Devil's_Advocate wrote:

A couple of days ago, both versions 1.18 and 2.x of Seamonkey quit working
with Google Maps and it's a REAL PAIN.

Does anyone know why??

I put in an address and click on it and it comes up on the left side of
Google Maps but NOT in the map area and clicking on the left side does
nothing.

I cant keep using this browser if it quits working.



maps.google seems to stutter: first map is ok, but it won't zoom etc.
earth.google is fine.

Win xp sp3 with SM 2.0.3


I've been using maps.google.com and it zooms just fine. No stuttering
that I can see (but perhaps I don't know what you mean by that).

I've zoomed-in on the main US map that is shown when first visiting
the page, as well as maps shown for specific addresses. I've even
used the street view. All works as expected.

I'm using SM 1.1.16 on Windows XP SP3.

FYI.


w3c validation on
maps.google.com
reports
190 Errors, 3 warning(s)
! !!!

so I have to believe it is not SM's bug!


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Email Replies with Included Items

[nr]

If I reply to an email (SM 2.03) that has an included item, such as a
small Excel spreadsheet, I delete the sheet, and the characters
disappear but the formatting box (red squares) remains.  Is there any
way to remove this remaining part of the Excel sheet?

Thanks for any assistance.
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Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

[Rick Merrill]

David Wilkinson wrote:

JeffM wrote:

W3C==WorldWide Web Consortium.
*Those* are the folks who maintain the Web standards
and who get to say what is proper Web coding
and what is a steaming pile of broken code.
Their tools are readily available and they are free.
You can even select what levels of the standards you use.
There is no excuse for publishing crap code.
The reasons you encounter it are sloth and ignorance.

In some diciplines, standards are enforced
(think: National Electrical Code).  In others, charlatans abound.


I thought the introduction of XHTML would improve things, but it seems only to
have introduced more ways in which typical pages can fail validation. Why
someone would specify the XHTML DocType when they have made no effort to
validate the page is quite beyond me.



We should have a site where validations (or violations) can be posted: a 
wall of shame if you will.  Otherwise there are no teeth to the standards.



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Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

[David Wilkinson]

JeffM wrote:
> W3C==WorldWide Web Consortium.
> *Those* are the folks who maintain the Web standards
> and who get to say what is proper Web coding
> and what is a steaming pile of broken code.
> Their tools are readily available and they are free.
> You can even select what levels of the standards you use.
> There is no excuse for publishing crap code.
> The reasons you encounter it are sloth and ignorance.
> 
> In some diciplines, standards are enforced
> (think: National Electrical Code).  In others, charlatans abound.

I thought the introduction of XHTML would improve things, but it seems only to
have introduced more ways in which typical pages can fail validation. Why
someone would specify the XHTML DocType when they have made no effort to
validate the page is quite beyond me.

-- 
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Re: Odd Characters in Sidebar Search

[Daniel]

Dean Scott wrote:



when you actually do the search, does it return millions of pages
that have "some" in them, millions of pages that have "thing" in them,
etc, etc or just the pages that have "some thing with spaces" in them??

In other words, is the % a magic "connecting" character??

Daniel


That test didn't use quotes to contain the phrase so no pages with those
words in that exact order were returned, so yes, lots-o-pages with
individual words highlighted (bolded).

Upon the second search using the string that had the spaces replaced
with %, the results were identical, so Google ignored the %.

If I put a search phrase within quotes, such as "walt disney world", the
same thing happens. After clicking the search button in the sidebar (or
hitting Enter key), the spaces are replaced with %, per
"walt%disney%world", and of course, the webpage returns hits with the
highlighted phrase "Walt Disney World". etc. etc.



O.K., Dean, this is were I say that I don't use the sidebar for 
searches, so we've exceeded my knowledge.


Maybe someone else will drop by!!

Daniel
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Re: Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

[Ant]

On 2/26/2010 4:21 PM PT, Devil's_Advocate typed:


Does it work with IE?


Yes.

I'm using XP by the way.


Try a new clean SM profile yet?
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