Inconsistent handling of Word attachments

2010-07-13 Thread Ray
I'm using SM 2.0.5 on Linux (Ubuntu 10.04), and sometimes with a Word 
attachment on a received email I get a little window offering me a 
choice of saving it or opening it with an Open with option. But 
sometimes the Open with option is missing and the only choice offered 
is to save it.


For example I received email attachments today from two people in my 
contacts list. One was called Payroll summary - April 10.doc and SM 
gave me the choice to open or save, and the other was called Membership 
figures for July 2010 and the option to open it was missing and I was 
offered only to save it.


I can't see a significant difference between these file names (both 
contain spaces and a mix of letters  numerals) and I can't understand 
why SM treats them differently.


If poss I would like the Open with choice every time. Any tips?

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Re: Is there a way...

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel

Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 07/12/2010 04:18 AM, Daniel wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 07/11/2010 03:46 AM, Daniel wrote:

...

I have several Usenet accounts, and even of late with the spamming
here
and here-abouts, I've often thought it would be useful to have just
one
set of filters that apply to each and every account!!

...

Set the filters for the news server (news.mozilla.org) rather than the
group (mozilla.support.seamonkey). That way they apply across all
groups
on the server. Example (msgFilterRules.dat):

snip

No problem, NoOp, when I set up a filter, especially for UseNet, I do
select to apply the filter to the server, not just the particular group.

But, ultimately, I would like to apply them all to all my news
servers at once, not just to a particular server.

Daniel


Ah, I see what you're asking now. I know of no way to do that all in one
go. However, I _think_ if you set up one you could then copy the same
msgFilterRules.dat file to the other news folders. Disclaimer: I've not
tried this, so back up  then try - maybe with a test profile first. I
can try later today on a test system if you'd rather me do the
breaking :-)




I've done this - just a couple days ago. It works.

I don't know how you did it, Rufus, but, if every I get motivated, I'd 
be looking in prefs.js to see if there is a separate location listed for 
each of the msgFilterRules.dat files, and if so, try pointing each one 
to the same location.


Is this how you did it, Rufus??

Daniel

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Re: Opening links in Seamonkey

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel

Beverly Howard wrote:

  To quote from the original post, Fedora 13 Linux 

Apologies... hopefully the post will be of value to a windows user

  edit/pref../navigator/tabbed../linkopen... settings.

  Yes. I know. I've done that. 

Rereading yielded no specific settings information... for my education,
would you mind confirming specifically that Links from other
applications is set to current window.

Beverly Howard




Beverley, how do you re-read the past posts??? You cut out all the past 
posts!!


Daniel
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separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Rick Merrill

Not a popup as I have popup blocker enabled on
Windows XP sp3 SM2.0.5.

But every now and then, say five minutes after
launching SeaMonkey, the URL
http://www.lookupanyonetoday.com/
opens in a new window.

It is a useful website, but I don't want it automatically.

I have SM set to open new URL in a Tab.

I see nothing in Start|All Programs|Startup.

There are no schtasks.


Where/How could this be happening?
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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rick Merrill wrote:

 Not a popup as I have popup blocker enabled on Windows XP sp3 SM2.0.5.
 
 But every now and then, say five minutes after launching SeaMonkey,
 the URL http://www.lookupanyonetoday.com/ opens in a new window. 

While it's ok to ask the question here, this is probably some sort of
hijacking than a SeaMonkey browser issue.

 It is a useful website, but I don't want it automatically.

Here is what I see when clicking your link:
This web page is parked FREE, courtesy of GoDaddy.com
..with a bunch of Godaddy ads. Not very useful, as I see it.

 I have SM set to open new URL in a Tab.
 I see nothing in Start|All Programs|Startup.
 There are no schtasks.
 Where/How could this be happening?

As an experiment, disable JavaScript then restart the browser. If it
doesn't happen, then you'll know the how.  Maybe your start page has
been hijacked.

Examine your stored cookies and look for anything related to this URL
and/or godaddy.com

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Re: Editing forwarded messages

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel

W3BNR wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

Daniel wrote:

 T E X T D E L E T E D 

(1) I hate the breach of privacy that is occurring when these re-posts
of re-posts or re-posts occur.

Daniel


I don't know who originally wrote the following, but I've been using a
modified copy of it to send to friends that don't edit forwarded mails:

Subject: e-mail Addressing

Dear Recipient of This e-mail:

It has been noticed that in your addressing of messages you are using
the TO function in e-mail that goes to many people. The extra lines
of addresses are of no consequence to those to whom you are addressing
the message. They only add to net congestion, which in turn slows down
the overall speed of the network. They also allow spammers to harvest
address.

Would you write your friends' phone numbers on the walls of public
restrooms? If the answer is 'no', then why would you spread their
e-mail addresses to a bunch of strangers, many of whom will in turn
forward the same addresses to even more strangers?

If you don't know how to accomplish this, read the manual or help
files for the software you are using. You should have a BCC address
option. This option will 'hide' the addresses from the recipients of
your e-mail. You might want to ask your peers. I don't suggest that
you ask your ISP Help Desk, since they will probably give you
incorrect information.

Thank you for your consideration to others.



Opps, wrong text. Only the first paragraph as been changed, here's the
correct one:



It has been noticed that in your forwarding of messages to other e-mail
users you have not been deleting the numerous headers that accompany
what may be a short message. The unnecessary lines of previous headers
are of no consequence to those to whom you are forwarding the message.
They only add to net congestion, which in turn slows down the overall
speed of the network. They also allow spammers to harvest address.






Either paragraph would do, ED.

I live remotely from the rest of my family (cannot convince them to 
leave the big smoke). When I do a family news e-mail, I've even 
started BCC:'ing them rather than To:.  (I include myself as the To: 
address, just in case some server requires one.)


I'm sure they each have each others e-mail address, but just to prove a 
point.


Daniel
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Re: Inconsistent handling of Word attachments

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel

Ray wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.5 on Linux (Ubuntu 10.04), and sometimes with a Word
attachment on a received email I get a little window offering me a
choice of saving it or opening it with an Open with option. But
sometimes the Open with option is missing and the only choice offered
is to save it.

For example I received email attachments today from two people in my
contacts list. One was called Payroll summary - April 10.doc and SM
gave me the choice to open or save, and the other was called Membership
figures for July 2010 and the option to open it was missing and I was
offered only to save it.

I can't see a significant difference between these file names (both
contain spaces and a mix of letters  numerals) and I can't understand
why SM treats them differently.

If poss I would like the Open with choice every time. Any tips?



Ray, you are not on your own with this. I think about two weeks ago 
there was a thread here dealing with this situation, I think it might 
have been about opening pdf files, but don't quote me.


If you have a bit of a look back, you might find what you need.

Daniel
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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Rick Merrill

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


Not a popup as I have popup blocker enabled on Windows XP sp3 SM2.0.5.

But every now and then, say five minutes after launching SeaMonkey,
the URL http://www.lookupanyonetoday.com/ opens in a new window.


While it's ok to ask the question here, this is probably some sort of
hijacking than a SeaMonkey browser issue.


It is a useful website, but I don't want it automatically.


Here is what I see when clicking your link:
This web page is parked FREE, courtesy of GoDaddy.com
..with a bunch of Godaddy ads. Not very useful, as I see it.


I have SM set to open new URL in a Tab.
I see nothing in Start|All Programs|Startup.
There are no schtasks.
Where/How could this be happening?


As an experiment, disable JavaScript then restart the browser. If it
doesn't happen, then you'll know the how.  Maybe your start page has
been hijacked.

Examine your stored cookies and look for anything related to this URL
and/or godaddy.com



Thanks for the input: ask elsewhere, check Javascript, and cookies!

I just knew this would be a good place to ask ;-)


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When is an upgrade not an upgrade???

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel

I dual boot MandrivaLinux and Windows 7.

This afternoon, I had reason to boot into Win7, get online, update Win7 
and Java, and checked out the SM version and it was showing as Ver 
2.0.3, so I figured I might as well upgrade SM as well.


13MByte later, i.e. downloading a full version rather than just a couple 
of upgrades 2.0.3-2.0.4-2.0.5, I was told SM would be upgraded next 
time I booted.


Why the full version??

Daniel
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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rick Merrill wrote:

 Thanks for the input: ask elsewhere, check Javascript, and cookies! 

There could be other reasons, of course. It would be possible, but
unlikely, that you're infected with some sort of trojan or other
malware, but since the target site is quite innocuous...

Nevertheless, it might be a good idea to do a malware scan, if you don't
do things like this regularly in your Windows XP. Try:
http://malwarebytes.org/
Get free version; install; update signatures; do full scan.

What is your start page? You might also want to change it for awhile.

 I just knew this would be a good place to ask ;-)

If you do find malware, and Malwarebytes doesn't fix it, next step would
be alt.privacy.spyware ...   :-)

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Re: When is an upgrade not an upgrade???

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Kaiser

Daniel schrieb:

Why the full version??


We only issue partial updates from one version to the next. If you are 
on a version older than 2.0.4, you need to use a full upgrade to get to 
2.0.5, only 2.0.4 will get a partial one.


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Theme comment........

2010-07-13 Thread jim
I installed the blue essence Seamonkey dark theme yesterday.

For those that like NASA Night Launch for Firefox,  I think you'd like
it.

I sent two suggestions to the author -- one on the browser and one on the
email client.  I imagine when you are building a theme it is easy to
overlook some small things.

jim
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Re: Editing forwarded messages

2010-07-13 Thread Joe Zeff
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:53:12 +1000, Daniel wrote:

 I don't suggest that
 you ask your ISP Help Desk, since they will probably give you
 incorrect information.

I did tech support for a major ISP for 7.5 years, mostly at a senior 
level, before our call-center was closed and most of the company's 
institutional memory was laid off.  I find your suggestion that almost 
anybody at an ISP's Help Desk will only have wrong information about such 
a subject very appropriate, as even when I was there, most of my 
colleagues wouldn't have recognized a clue if it came up and introduced 
itself.  More information on what I think about the average Hell-Desk 
monkey can be found in the Tech Support Koan, here: http://www.zeff.us/
koan.html

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Re: Editing forwarded messages

2010-07-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Joe Zeff wrote:


On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:53:12 +1000, Daniel wrote:


I don't suggest that you ask your ISP Help Desk, since they
will probably give you incorrect information.


I did tech support for a major ISP for 7.5 years, mostly at a senior
level, before our call-center was closed and most of the company's 
institutional memory was laid off.  I find your suggestion that

almost anybody at an ISP's Help Desk will only have wrong information
about such a subject very appropriate, as even when I was there, most
of my colleagues wouldn't have recognized a clue if it came up and
introduced itself.  More information on what I think about the
average Hell-Desk monkey can be found in the Tech Support Koan, here:
http://www.zeff.us/koan.html


Good stuff.

But what I've always wondered is, how do those people not get fired?

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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Rick Merrill

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


Thanks for the input: ask elsewhere, check Javascript, and cookies!


There could be other reasons, of course. It would be possible, but
unlikely, that you're infected with some sort of trojan or other
malware, but since the target site is quite innocuous...

Nevertheless, it might be a good idea to do a malware scan, if you don't
do things like this regularly in your Windows XP. Try:
http://malwarebytes.org/
Get free version; install; update signatures; do full scan.

What is your start page? You might also want to change it for awhile.


I just knew this would be a good place to ask ;-)


If you do find malware, and Malwarebytes doesn't fix it, next step would
be alt.privacy.spyware ...   :-)




In the registry I find one
... seamonkey.exe /MAPIStartUp
what on earth could that be?



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Re: Inconsistent handling of Word attachments

2010-07-13 Thread Ray

Joe Zeff wrote:

Assuming that you've quoted the file names correctly, I can see one
reason why it might not have offered you that option: the second file has
no extension, and SM might be set not to offer an Open With option when
that happens.  Personally, I'd think that this would be the best time to
offer it, but it's not completely unreasonable.


Sorry, I quoted the filename incorrectly. They both had the extension 
.doc, and SM correctly identified both as Word documents, but gave me 
the 'open' option on only one of them. I've had many other examples of 
this inconsistency, with nothing obvious about the attachment filename 
or extension.


I've not had any trouble with other file extensions - provided they are 
in the SM helper application list they always produce the 'open' or 
'save' option. It is only with .doc files that this inconsistency occurs.


It's a nuisance because often people send me Word files that I just want 
to have a quick look at but not keep, but when I don't get the 'open' 
option I have to save it somewhere, then go there to look at it, then 
delete it.


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Re: Editing forwarded messages

2010-07-13 Thread Joe Zeff
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:44:36 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 But what I've always wondered is, how do those people not get fired?

Two reasons, probably.  First, we had a database of possible solutions 
for various issues; as most of them had multiple suggestions, there was a 
good chance that a support-monkey would pick a wrong one at random, as 
they didn't know enough to tell which one was probably right.  And, of 
course, when (not if) it didn't work, they could say, But I followed the 
walk-through!  The second reason was that their leads often knew little 
if anything more than they did, being more manager than tech.

I once spoke to a caller who was on his fifth call for the same issue.  
The first tech had decided to remove and replace Dial-Up Networking, 
which IMAO wasn't indicated.  When it didn't work, the next three techs 
he spoke to clearly were suffering from The Bullwinkle Syndrome: This 
time, for *sure!*  Instead, I Did The Right Thing: I went over their 
configuration and corrected several errors in it, after which everything 
worked.  The funny thing is, we were judged, largely, on the average call-
time and my way was much faster.

I've even written a short book on my experiences: http://www.xlibris.com/
FearandLoathinginTechSupport.html

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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rick Merrill wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 [stuff about malware]
 If you do find malware, and Malwarebytes doesn't fix it, next step
 would be alt.privacy.spyware ...   :-)
 
 In the registry I find one
 ... seamonkey.exe /MAPIStartUp
 what on earth could that be?

Sorry Rick, I can't help you with that one. My operating system doesn't
have a registry.

But some Windows user might be able to help if you listed the entire
path.

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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:05:50 -0400, Rick Merrill wrote:

 In the registry I find one
 ... seamonkey.exe /MAPIStartUp
 what on earth could that be?

I believe that this happens on Windows when/if you set SeaMonkey to be
the default mail client.

Google pulls up this related post on Mozillazine:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=4228865sid=9ec73f7277d607203b8e46756b2a7cb2#p4228865

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Re: separate window opens

2010-07-13 Thread Paul

Rick Merrill wrote:

Not a popup as I have popup blocker enabled on
Windows XP sp3 SM2.0.5.

But every now and then, say five minutes after
launching SeaMonkey, the URL
http://www.lookupanyonetoday.com/
opens in a new window.

It is a useful website, but I don't want it automatically.

I have SM set to open new URL in a Tab.

I see nothing in Start|All Programs|Startup.

There are no schtasks.

Where/How could this be happening?


Your computer may have been turned into a zombie.
Root kits hide outside the file area where normal virus
scanners won't see them.
Get a firewall that you can watch.  NOT windows firewall.
Zone alarm free is good.
Do a web search for:  tdsskiller
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Re: Is there a way...

2010-07-13 Thread Rufus

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 07/12/2010 04:18 AM, Daniel wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 07/11/2010 03:46 AM, Daniel wrote:

...

I have several Usenet accounts, and even of late with the spamming
here
and here-abouts, I've often thought it would be useful to have just
one
set of filters that apply to each and every account!!

...

Set the filters for the news server (news.mozilla.org) rather than the
group (mozilla.support.seamonkey). That way they apply across all
groups
on the server. Example (msgFilterRules.dat):

snip

No problem, NoOp, when I set up a filter, especially for UseNet, I do
select to apply the filter to the server, not just the particular 
group.


But, ultimately, I would like to apply them all to all my news
servers at once, not just to a particular server.

Daniel


Ah, I see what you're asking now. I know of no way to do that all in one
go. However, I _think_ if you set up one you could then copy the same
msgFilterRules.dat file to the other news folders. Disclaimer: I've not
tried this, so back up  then try - maybe with a test profile first. I
can try later today on a test system if you'd rather me do the
breaking :-)




I've done this - just a couple days ago. It works.

I don't know how you did it, Rufus, but, if every I get motivated, I'd 
be looking in prefs.js to see if there is a separate location listed for 
each of the msgFilterRules.dat files, and if so, try pointing each one 
to the same location.


Is this how you did it, Rufus??

Daniel



No - I didn't touch any of the .js files...

What I did was to duplicate the one msgFilterRules.dat file that I had 
in my master Account and put those duplicates into the folders for the 
other Accounts, replacing the ones that were there.  That way I ended up 
with the same base rule/filter set for each Account/server.


Then I went into the individual Accounts and performed a couple minor 
Edit actions to add or remove what I wanted for each.  Took me all of 
about 5 minutes.


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