Re: Icon Idea
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Re: Looking for DictionarySearch for Seamonkey
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Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
I have all Comodo related certs untrusted in all browsers since December 2008. I want to be alerted each time I go to a secure site that uses Comodo. I will then decide on a per site, one time only, exception basis if I wish to allow the exception or not. SM 2.5 has NO way to allow me to accept a Comodo cert used at Amazon.com when logging in there. The cert is for images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com. I get an untrusted cert popup but all I can do is examine the cert. I cannot accept it. That means that I do get logged in because the main cert for Amazon is from Verisign and I have not disabled Verisign certs. But, because I cannot accept the Comodo cert on a one time basis, I have no images at Amazon after logging in. I have not tried other secure sites that use Comodo related certs with SM 2.5 but I would assume that I will not be able to use ANY of those sites with SM because there is no way to make a one time or permanent exception. Is this a known bug? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tricking sites into thinking SeaMonkey is Firefox
On 12/5/2011 1:34 PM PT, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] typed: On 12/5/11 6:39 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: Did we ever come up with a sure way of tricking sites into thinking we are using Firefox? I need to switch banks and it appears they only accept the browsers on their list. Isn't this what the Advertise Firefox compatibility setting in 2.6 under HTTP Networking supposed to accomplish? As I indicated earlier in this thread, I was a customer of a bank that rejected Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 because it had more than Firefox/8.0.1 in the UA string. All other financial institutions where I had online accounts allowed Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 SeaMonkey/2.5 without any spoofing of Firefox. For the one bank, I used PrefBar to spoof with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0 (not really) Somehow, the (not really) was acceptable. Yes, I could see why that would be. It would nice if when that option is checked in Preferences it just flatly reports the UA string as Firefox/8.0.1 and omits the SeaMonkey/2.5 portion. This would probably work in cases where the Web admin was basing things solely on the UA string to allow or not allow it to work which doesn't sound like a good idea. Do other web sites have this problem only that bank (which one was it? I am late to this newsgroup thread)? -- I've been on some fairways that are as good as the greens we putted on back then. We had crab grass. I remember one green where I putted through ants. --Sam Snead /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Removing and symbols when sending links through e-mails?
On 12/5/2011 5:53 AM PT, Jay Garcia typed: Is there a way to remove the and symbols that surround the URLs with sending links through e-mails (right click on a link on a web page)? I find them annoying. :( Thank you in advance. :) No way that I know of to automatically remove those, you can do it manually. Thanks. :) -- An ant can do more than an ox that is lying down. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Removing and symbols when sending links through e-mails?
On 12/5/2011 11:10 AM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed: The user asked how to remove the and so maybe he has a particular reason other than conforming to line length and RFC's, etc. Maybe we should listen to what he has to say first and then we may be able to proceed accordingly, still keeping in mind that the suggestions are actually appropriate, etc. I think Ant already did list a reason. :-) I find them annoying. :( His annoyance must be happening during forwarding, since if it was an original email, he simply wouldn't type them. He might also mean he doesn't want to see them while reading a received email. If that's the case, there's no way to remove them as the cutting of would ruin any HTML message. Well, if he's sending in HTML, the brackets (and other tags) need not be displayed. They're only useful in plain-text messages. Yes, I use plain texts. I don't need fancy graphics, colors, etc. :) -- The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant. --Indian /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: After sending e-mails with attachments
Danny Kile wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote: After sending e-mails with attachments, the send process is completed. Then the next steps to copy the mail to the sent folder then it hangs. If I look in the send items folder the mail is sent and the person it is sent to receives it. However, the copy complete box never closes. Any help would be appreciated, You just need to close the pop-up window. Other actions are not useful. Yes that is what I am doing, however, I never had to close it before it would close on it's own when it was done. So what has happened to keep it from working correctly. Just verify that the mail is present in the sent folder, before closing this pop-up window. You need to stay like that. working correctly you will never be in that case; When SM decided to not close this pop-up window, you can dance the rain-dance :-) No way ! SM developpers will never correct this bug - They don't know what is causing this ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tricking sites into thinking SeaMonkey is Firefox
On 12/6/11 4:53 AM, Ant wrote: On 12/5/2011 1:34 PM PT, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] typed: On 12/5/11 6:39 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: Did we ever come up with a sure way of tricking sites into thinking we are using Firefox? I need to switch banks and it appears they only accept the browsers on their list. Isn't this what the Advertise Firefox compatibility setting in 2.6 under HTTP Networking supposed to accomplish? As I indicated earlier in this thread, I was a customer of a bank that rejected Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 because it had more than Firefox/8.0.1 in the UA string. All other financial institutions where I had online accounts allowed Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 SeaMonkey/2.5 without any spoofing of Firefox. For the one bank, I used PrefBar to spoof with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0 (not really) Somehow, the (not really) was acceptable. Yes, I could see why that would be. It would nice if when that option is checked in Preferences it just flatly reports the UA string as Firefox/8.0.1 and omits the SeaMonkey/2.5 portion. This would probably work in cases where the Web admin was basing things solely on the UA string to allow or not allow it to work which doesn't sound like a good idea. Do other web sites have this problem only that bank (which one was it? I am late to this newsgroup thread)? The bank was California Oaks State Bank. It merged with the slightly larger California United Bank the beginning of 2011. Their Web systems were merged a month ago. California Oaks State Bank no longer exists. The Web system at California United Bank either does not sniff or else it sniffs for Gecko. I can now access my account with the UA string Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 SeaMonkey/2.5 without any spoofing of Firefox. I seem to recall only one other Web site that would not accept Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 It must not be one I visit frequently because I cannot remember what site it was. Note that some sites do not require spoofing until you navigate to the meaty parts. For example, Adobe Systems allows you even to logon without any spoofing, without Advertise Firefox compatibility. However, you cannot download any software for SeaMonkey without spoofing Firefox. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: After sending e-mails with attachments
I'm having this problem with perhaps 1/2 my e-mails. It has always been there but has gotten progressively worse and more frequent the last few revisions (it used to be rare, no it is common). So it is not you. I too just close the window and verify that it is in my sent basket. On 12/6/2011 9:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote: After sending e-mails with attachments, the send process is completed. Then the next steps to copy the mail to the sent folder then it hangs. If I look in the send items folder the mail is sent and the person it is sent to receives it. However, the copy complete box never closes. Any help would be appreciated, You just need to close the pop-up window. Other actions are not useful. Yes that is what I am doing, however, I never had to close it before it would close on it's own when it was done. So what has happened to keep it from working correctly. Just verify that the mail is present in the sent folder, before closing this pop-up window. You need to stay like that. working correctly you will never be in that case; When SM decided to not close this pop-up window, you can dance the rain-dance :-) No way ! SM developpers will never correct this bug - They don't know what is causing this ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.5 update
I just updated SeaMonkey to: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 Again all my contacts and bookmarks are gone. Is it possible to retain them? Is this a bug or by design? If its a bug I will report it. i have a csv of my personal address book and saved the HTML bookmarks but it seem silly to have to rebuild everything again each time, Especially the distribution lists Am I missing some step? Thanks -- Russ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: After sending e-mails with attachments
hawker wrote: I'm having this problem with perhaps 1/2 my e-mails. It has always been there but has gotten progressively worse and more frequent the last few revisions (it used to be rare, no it is common). So it is not you. I too just close the window and verify that it is in my sent basket. On 12/6/2011 9:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote: After sending e-mails with attachments, the send process is completed. Then the next steps to copy the mail to the sent folder then it hangs. If I look in the send items folder the mail is sent and the person it is sent to receives it. However, the copy complete box never closes. Any help would be appreciated, You just need to close the pop-up window. Other actions are not useful. Yes that is what I am doing, however, I never had to close it before it would close on it's own when it was done. So what has happened to keep it from working correctly. Just verify that the mail is present in the sent folder, before closing this pop-up window. You need to stay like that. working correctly you will never be in that case; When SM decided to not close this pop-up window, you can dance the rain-dance :-) No way ! SM developpers will never correct this bug - They don't know what is causing this ... Well this is what I have been doing also. However,I am a geek, but I have some family and friends that barely know how to turn on a PC and are still trying to figure out how to stop the 12:00 from flashing on the VCR, (DVD). These are the one that will call me just before I go to bed and ask me what is this and what should I do. Just I could get them on Firefox and Thunderbird, but maybe it has the same problem I do not know have not used it in some time. Thanks for the reply's, Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copying Bookmarks.html file Does Not Work
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Re: Tricking sites into thinking SeaMonkey is Firefox
David E. Ross wrote: Note that some sites do not require spoofing until you navigate to the meaty parts. For example, Adobe Systems allows you even to logon without any spoofing, without Advertise Firefox compatibility. However, you cannot download any software for SeaMonkey without spoofing Firefox. This must be something new. I've downloaded and installed Adobe software for years without spoofing Firefox or thinking that I had to. In fact, the first time I ever pretended to have Firefox was when the program itself started lying with version 2.4. This covers both the free stuff -- Acrobat Reader, Flash Player, Shockwave -- and the paid program Adobe Acrobat v. 8 ff. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
Desiree wrote: I have all Comodo related certs untrusted in all browsers since December 2008. I want to be alerted each time I go to a secure site that uses Comodo. I will then decide on a per site, one time only, exception basis if I wish to allow the exception or not. SM 2.5 has NO way to allow me to accept a Comodo cert used at Amazon.com when logging in there. The cert is for images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com. I get an untrusted cert popup but all I can do is examine the cert. I cannot accept it. That means that I do get logged in because the main cert for Amazon is from Verisign and I have not disabled Verisign certs. But, because I cannot accept the Comodo cert on a one time basis, I have no images at Amazon after logging in. I have not tried other secure sites that use Comodo related certs with SM 2.5 but I would assume that I will not be able to use ANY of those sites with SM because there is no way to make a one time or permanent exception. Is this a known bug? Comodo has had issues and is explicitly blocked, if Amazon-na is using them, you should contact amazon about the issue. This issue exists in all current and updated webbrowsers. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
On 12/06/2011 11:34 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Desiree wrote: I have all Comodo related certs untrusted in all browsers since December 2008. I want to be alerted each time I go to a secure site that uses Comodo. I will then decide on a per site, one time only, exception basis if I wish to allow the exception or not. SM 2.5 has NO way to allow me to accept a Comodo cert used at Amazon.com when logging in there. The cert is for images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com. I get an untrusted cert popup but all I can do is examine the cert. I cannot accept it. That means that I do get logged in because the main cert for Amazon is from Verisign and I have not disabled Verisign certs. But, because I cannot accept the Comodo cert on a one time basis, I have no images at Amazon after logging in. I have not tried other secure sites that use Comodo related certs with SM 2.5 but I would assume that I will not be able to use ANY of those sites with SM because there is no way to make a one time or permanent exception. Is this a known bug? Comodo has had issues and is explicitly blocked, if Amazon-na is using them, you should contact amazon about the issue. This issue exists in all current and updated webbrowsers. Are they? If so how? I show them as an trusted authority in SM 2.6b2. And: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/included/ http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/security/nss/lib/ckfw/builtins/certdata.txt # 5826 # Certificate Comodo AAA Services root 5827 # 5828 CKA_CLASS CK_OBJECT_CLASS CKO_CERTIFICATE 5829 CKA_TOKEN CK_BBOOL CK_TRUE 5830 CKA_PRIVATE CK_BBOOL CK_FALSE 5831 CKA_MODIFIABLE CK_BBOOL CK_FALSE 5832 CKA_LABEL UTF8 Comodo AAA Services root 5833 CKA_CERTIFICATE_TYPE CK_CERTIFICATE_TYPE CKC_X_509 5834 CKA_SUBJECT MULTILINE_OCTAL etc. I would think if they were blocked, they would have a entry similar to diginotar: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/included/#DigiNotar%20%28DISABLED%29 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/security/nss/lib/ckfw/builtins/certdata.txt # 22439 # Certificate Explicitly Distrust DigiNotar Root CA 22440 # 22441 CKA_CLASS CK_OBJECT_CLASS CKO_CERTIFICATE 22442 CKA_TOKEN CK_BBOOL CK_TRUE 22443 CKA_PRIVATE CK_BBOOL CK_FALSE 22444 CKA_MODIFIABLE CK_BBOOL CK_FALSE 22445 CKA_LABEL UTF8 Explicitly Distrust DigiNotar Root CA 22446 CKA_CERTIFICATE_TYPE CK_CERTIFICATE_TYPE CKC_X_509 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
NoOp wrote: On 12/06/2011 11:34 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Desiree wrote: I have all Comodo related certs untrusted in all browsers since December 2008. I want to be alerted each time I go to a secure site that uses Comodo. I will then decide on a per site, one time only, exception basis if I wish to allow the exception or not. SM 2.5 has NO way to allow me to accept a Comodo cert used at Amazon.com when logging in there. The cert is for images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com. I get an untrusted cert popup but all I can do is examine the cert. I cannot accept it. That means that I do get logged in because the main cert for Amazon is from Verisign and I have not disabled Verisign certs. But, because I cannot accept the Comodo cert on a one time basis, I have no images at Amazon after logging in. I have not tried other secure sites that use Comodo related certs with SM 2.5 but I would assume that I will not be able to use ANY of those sites with SM because there is no way to make a one time or permanent exception. Is this a known bug? Comodo has had issues and is explicitly blocked, if Amazon-na is using them, you should contact amazon about the issue. This issue exists in all current and updated webbrowsers. Are they? If so how? ... I would think if they were blocked, they would have a entry similar to diginotar: Actual from refreshing my memory the Comodo CA only had specific cert serials blocked. And I don't *think* amazon was one of them. The blocking here was done in a different way to diginotar. That said, loading https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/ Is showing as properly secure, and accepted for me in SM2.6b2. Even though I get Forbidden for the root load there. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IETAB Install
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Re: Fix for 1.1.1. issued already?!
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Re: Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
David E. Ross wrote: * * * Much snipping * * . Check the trust bits for AddTrust External CA Root on your system to make sure This certificate can identify web sites. is checked. Been following this thread with interest. But, how do I do this? I get to the Certificate Manager, but can't see how to proceed from there. Thanks and appreciation for any help! Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
On 12/6/11 6:20 PM, schwe...@optonline.net wrote: David E. Ross wrote: * * * Much snipping * * . Check the trust bits for AddTrust External CA Root on your system to make sure This certificate can identify web sites. is checked. Been following this thread with interest. But, how do I do this? I get to the Certificate Manager, but can't see how to proceed from there. Thanks and appreciation for any help! Larry When you reach Certificate Manager: 1. Select the Authorities tab. 2. Scroll through the list of root certificates and select the certificate in which you are interested. 3. Select the Edit Trust button. You will see checkmarks (or not) indicating which of three certificate uses are trusted. No, the use of the Edit Trust button merely to view the trust settings is NOT intuitive. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to add Security exceptiion at Amazon
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/6/11 6:20 PM, schwe...@optonline.net wrote: David E. Ross wrote: * * * Much snipping * * . Check the trust bits for AddTrust External CA Root on your system to make sure This certificate can identify web sites. is checked. Been following this thread with interest. But, how do I do this? I get to the Certificate Manager, but can't see how to proceed from there. Thanks and appreciation for any help! Larry When you reach Certificate Manager: 1. Select the Authorities tab. 2. Scroll through the list of root certificates and select the certificate in which you are interested. 3. Select the Edit Trust button. You will see checkmarks (or not) indicating which of three certificate uses are trusted. No, the use of the Edit Trust button merely to view the trust settings is NOT intuitive. Works like a charm, as does all of your advice. Thank you! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
