Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

km wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

km wrote:


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


Who knew? No smilies or anything, just invective.



... I ABHOR SMILEYS!!!



Just to say, smileys would have gone a long way in introducing the
context that would have meant that was a joke there.

My initial reading of it was taken aback, and felt you were trying to
make a real complaint that was backed up by no facts or even a real
quantitative complaint. And instead it ended up failing as a joke, and
succeeding in wasting my time and others.

This response is offered to try and assist you in formulating your jokes
clearer in the future.

Thank You,


... LOOK, I ASSUMED PEOPLE HERE ARE BIT BRIGHT AND WOULD SEE BY, SAY, 
THE NAMES ON THE AD HOCK PETITION THAT IT REALLY WAS A JOKE!!! MY 
APOLOGIES IF I MISSLED YOU. IT WAS A JOKE!!!


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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

km wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

km wrote:


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


Who knew? No smilies or anything, just invective.



... I ABHOR SMILEYS!!!



Just to say, smileys would have gone a long way in introducing the
context that would have meant that was a joke there.

My initial reading of it was taken aback, and felt you were trying to
make a real complaint that was backed up by no facts or even a real
quantitative complaint. And instead it ended up failing as a joke, and
succeeding in wasting my time and others.

This response is offered to try and assist you in formulating your jokes
clearer in the future.

Thank You,


... LOOK, I ASSUMED PEOPLE HERE ARE BIT BRIGHT AND WOULD SEE BY, SAY, 
THE NAMES ON THE AD HOCK PETITION THAT IT REALLY WAS A JOKE!!! MY 
APOLOGIES IF I MISSLED YOU. IT WAS A JOKE!!!


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Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread JB
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:43:00 -0500 From: Jim 
Taylor  To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org 
Subject: Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Jim Taylor wrote:



JB wrote:

Sorry, my apologies. A typical URL, is as follows:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19222829.html
but it is also happening with all pages I'm looking at. If you see the
tack/info/task bar running across the picture, that then is what I'm
getting. Not just this picture but every one I view. This has only
started to occur since installing 2.7 a couple of days ago, prior to
that, I've been seeing the bar at the bottom of the picture for well
over a year now, so something very recent has caused this. Got any
ideas please? Regards - jb (dufus) Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012
17:02:35 +0100 From: Ray_Net  To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org  Subject: Re: Image display in SM
2.7 - Win 7 Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed JB wrote:


Hi, searching sites for property for sale, the images usually come up
with an info/navigation bar at the bottom of the picture. Suddenly,
with
newly installed 2.7, this bar now appears right across the picture,
almost central, which is a real handicap. Is there an option somewhere
which will enable this task bar to be moved down to the bottom of the
image?

Regards - dufus



May be if the webmaster create better pages ...
Thanks for not giving us the url


I can verify that I get the same thing on that page with SeaMonkey 2.7
and that IE displays it correctly. 64 Bit Windows 7 Home Premium -
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0)
Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7. But I can't help with why.
I haven't had any problems with the pages I go to and haven't seen
anything like that anywhere else except the link you posted. I ran
that page through validator.w3.org and it has 68 markup errors and 11
warnings and 204 CSS errors but I don't know if one of them is causing
the display problem or not. However, IE 9 does display it correctly.

Jim

The following line in the propertyDetails.css file is what is causing
the problem:

#controlpanel{background-color:#5d5d5d;left:0;bottom:7.5em;height:2.4em;opacity:.85;filter:alpha(opacity=85);color:#FFF;position:absolute;width:620px}

The bottom:7.5em causes the control panel to be displayed 7.5em (font
heights) up from the bottom of the main image container.  If that is
changed to bottom:0 it displays at the bottom of the container where
you would expect it.  I don't know html or css so don't know if it is
coded wrong or is being rendered wrong, but to me it looks like it is
being rendered just as it is coded.  Perhaps somebody that knows html
and css will comment.

Jim


Thanks Jim, following your remarks, I now see it works correctly on Chrome too.

Does anyone know how a non-techie like me can fix this problem?

And, am I re-posting this correctly??

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

km wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

km wrote:


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


Who knew? No smilies or anything, just invective.



... I ABHOR SMILEYS!!!



Just to say, smileys would have gone a long way in introducing the 
context that would have meant that was a joke there.


My initial reading of it was taken aback, and felt you were trying to 
make a real complaint that was backed up by no facts or even a real 
quantitative complaint. And instead it ended up failing as a joke, and 
succeeding in wasting my time and others.


This response is offered to try and assist you in formulating your jokes 
clearer in the future.


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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

km wrote:


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


Who knew? No smilies or anything, just invective.



... I ABHOR SMILEYS!!!

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Kevin is deaf, badly visually impaired, and in a home for the
handicapped ; it would be worth bearing these things in mind before
calling him a troll.


That would account for sloppy typing, which of course is forgivable, but
not for the hostile attitude.


... A JOKE!!

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

km wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Yeah, I know .. but he did profess a couple months ago to be a
handicapped person (blind, I think I remember), so I was willing to
give him a short leash.  ;-)


... NO, I AM DEAF!


Then you probably couldn't hear just how serious your post sounded.


Philip TAYLOR  WHY SO STUFFY???


Learn to use smilies.  :-)  :-)  :-)

(Deaf or not - or even blind - why would you post 60 lines of invective?)



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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

km wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Yeah, I know .. but he did profess a couple months ago to be a
handicapped person (blind, I think I remember), so I was willing to
give him a short leash.  ;-)


... NO, I AM DEAF!


Then you probably couldn't hear just how serious your post sounded.


Philip TAYLOR  WHY SO STUFFY???


Learn to use smilies.  :-)  :-)  :-)

(Deaf or not - or even blind - why would you post 60 lines of invective?)



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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
km wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I know .. but he did profess a couple months ago to be a
>> handicapped person (blind, I think I remember), so I was willing to
>> give him a short leash.  ;-)
>
> ... NO, I AM DEAF!

Then you probably couldn't hear just how serious your post sounded.

> I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???

Learn to use smilies.  :-)  :-)  :-)

(Deaf or not - or even blind - why would you post 60 lines of invective?)

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

km wrote:


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


Who knew? No smilies or anything, just invective.

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Kevin is deaf, badly visually impaired, and in a home for the
handicapped ; it would be worth bearing these things in mind before
calling him a troll.


That would account for sloppy typing, which of course is forgivable, but 
not for the hostile attitude.


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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb:

km wrote:

... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!! SeaMonkey has been down
the last 2 days!!! AND i am blaming  you!


Take a chill pill, dude. Everyone else's SeaMonkey is working just
fine. In fact, you're posting using it. When you recover, post details
instead of rant.


1) Don't feed the trolls.

2) Apparently, he's playing out some kind of weird role playing game
here in the channel. I wouldn't take those comments as anything than
in-game play messages.


Yeah, I know .. but he did profess a couple months ago to be a
handicapped person (blind, I think I remember), so I was willing to give
him a short leash.  ;-)


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Kevin is deaf, badly visually impaired,
and in a home for the handicapped ; it
would be worth bearing these things in
mind before calling him a troll.

Philip Taylor
 'preciate but i don't need any excuses for my action. I WAS JOKING 
AROUND!!!


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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb:

km wrote:

... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!! SeaMonkey has been down
the last 2 days!!! AND i am blaming  you!


Take a chill pill, dude. Everyone else's SeaMonkey is working just
fine. In fact, you're posting using it. When you recover, post details
instead of rant.


1) Don't feed the trolls.

2) Apparently, he's playing out some kind of weird role playing game
here in the channel. I wouldn't take those comments as anything than
in-game play messages.


Yeah, I know .. but he did profess a couple months ago to be a
handicapped person (blind, I think I remember), so I was willing to give
him a short leash.  ;-)


... NO, I AM DEAF! I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND! WHY SO STUFFY???


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Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 09/02/2012 22:30, MCBastos told the world:

> So, it's a Javascript issue. What I'm not equipped to say, since I don't
> know much Javascript, is if this is a bug on the site or a bug in the
> latest version of Gecko's Javascript engine.

Wups! Jim Taylor tracked it to CSS. Apparently it's a CSS property that
only becomes relevant after Javascript is run... my mistake.

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Re: SeaMonkay & Copernic Desktop Search?

2012-02-09 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 09/02/2012 21:36, George Carden told the world:
> Does Copernic Desktop Search function with SeaMonkey 2.7?

Not directly. But I managed to find a workaround.

What I did was to install a copy of Thunderbird 3.1.x, run it once
without adding any accounts (so it creates its own profiles), then edit
the Thunderbird profiles.ini (you can find it in %APPDATA%\Thunderbird)
in order to make it point to *Seamonkey's* profile instead of Thunderbirds.

My Thunderbird profiles.ini looks like this:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=../Mozilla/Seamonkey/Profiles/27kymd3w.default

Once this is done, you must NEVER open Thunderbird again (well, unless
you turn back the profiles.ini to its original values beforehand).
There's a non-trivial risk of damaging your profile if you do so, since
the structure of Seamonkey's profiles and Thunderbird's profiles is
likely different (Thunderbird 3.1 uses an older version of Gecko, for
instance -- and doesn't include some components Seamonkey has.)

I tried uninstalling Thunderbird afterwards (for maximum safety and to
free a bit of space), but Copernic stopped scanning my e-mails. So,
there's something in a valid Thunderbird install that it needs. Since I
have a lot of hard disk space and this is a non-shared computer, having
an inactive TB does not cause me problems, so I didn't try to figure out
what is it that Copernic needs.

I didn't try this with a newer release of Thunderbird, either. Copernic
only claims compatibility with releases up to 3.1, but it *might* work.
If you try it, please report your results.

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Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread Jim Taylor

Jim Taylor wrote:

JB wrote:

Sorry, my apologies. A typical URL, is as follows:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19222829.html
but it is also happening with all pages I'm looking at. If you see the
tack/info/task bar running across the picture, that then is what I'm
getting. Not just this picture but every one I view. This has only
started to occur since installing 2.7 a couple of days ago, prior to
that, I've been seeing the bar at the bottom of the picture for well
over a year now, so something very recent has caused this. Got any
ideas please? Regards - jb (dufus) Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012
17:02:35 +0100 From: Ray_Net  To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Image display in SM
2.7 - Win 7 Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed JB wrote:


Hi, searching sites for property for sale, the images usually come up
with an info/navigation bar at the bottom of the picture. Suddenly,
with
newly installed 2.7, this bar now appears right across the picture,
almost central, which is a real handicap. Is there an option somewhere
which will enable this task bar to be moved down to the bottom of the
image?

Regards - dufus



May be if the webmaster create better pages ...
Thanks for not giving us the url



I can verify that I get the same thing on that page with SeaMonkey 2.7
and that IE displays it correctly. 64 Bit Windows 7 Home Premium -
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0)
Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7. But I can't help with why.
I haven't had any problems with the pages I go to and haven't seen
anything like that anywhere else except the link you posted. I ran
that page through validator.w3.org and it has 68 markup errors and 11
warnings and 204 CSS errors but I don't know if one of them is causing
the display problem or not. However, IE 9 does display it correctly.

Jim


The following line in the propertyDetails.css file is what is causing 
the problem:


#controlpanel{background-color:#5d5d5d;left:0;bottom:7.5em;height:2.4em;opacity:.85;filter:alpha(opacity=85);color:#FFF;position:absolute;width:620px}

The bottom:7.5em causes the control panel to be displayed 7.5em (font 
heights) up from the bottom of the main image container.  If that is 
changed to bottom:0 it displays at the bottom of the container where 
you would expect it.  I don't know html or css so don't know if it is 
coded wrong or is being rendered wrong, but to me it looks like it is 
being rendered just as it is coded.  Perhaps somebody that knows html 
and css will comment.


Jim


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Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 09/02/2012 17:20, JB told the world:
> Sorry, my apologies. A typical URL, is as follows: 
> http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19222829.html 
> but it is also happening with all pages I'm looking at. If you 
> see the tack/info/task bar running across the picture, that then 
> is what I'm getting. Not just this picture but every one I view. 
> This has only started to occur since installing 2.7 a couple of 
> days ago, prior to that, I've been seeing the bar at the bottom 
> of the picture for well over a year now, so something very 
> recent has caused this. Got any ideas please? Regards - jb 


Hmmm, yes, this affects both SM 2.7 and Firefox 10. A quick check with
Javascript disabled verified that that bar (and the "horizontal
scrolling with thumbnails") is done via Javascript.

So, it's a Javascript issue. What I'm not equipped to say, since I don't
know much Javascript, is if this is a bug on the site or a bug in the
latest version of Gecko's Javascript engine.

HOWEVER, the W3C Validator found 68 errors and 11 warnings on this page.
This does not inspire a lot of trust in the cleanness and conformance of
the author's code.
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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/9/12 2:09 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 02/08/2012 07:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/8/12 4:58 PM, NoOp wrote:
> ...
>>> Tested with:
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
>>> Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0)
>>> Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20111228
>>> Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
>>> Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021
>>> Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 
>>>
>>> This one seems to work (Win7):
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0.1)
>>> Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Okay.  I went to  with all cookies blocked and
>> no prior google.com cookies.  Then I SUCCESSFULLY did your #3 and #4.  I
>> actually tried several links, and all worked for both #3 and #4.
>>
> 
> Earlier today I tried on 2.7 and got:
> 
> (I still have the tab open from this morning).
> 
> But now testing succesfully redirects to test.com. Checked on the other
> machines: 2.5 & the 64bit 2.7, WinXP 2.7, and they all work now. Odd, as
> I've changed nothing (on any of the machines) - so I can't help but
> think it may have been a glitch on google's side. I'll switch back from
> yahoo! to google & see if it borks.
> 
> Again, thanks for testing David - much appreciated.

Your quite welcom.

Note that, merely because I could not recreate your problem, I never
said you don't have a problem.  Too often, I have a problem that I can
recreate at will but that no one else has seen.

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SeaMonkay & Copernic Desktop Search?

2012-02-09 Thread George Carden

Does Copernic Desktop Search function with SeaMonkey 2.7?


Thanks.
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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Please reply to the correct post. I did not call him a troll.


Nor did I suggest that you did.  I replied to the most
recent contribution to the thread.


Quoting would help as well. Thanks for your considerations.


Quoting would both repeat the insult, and insult others'
intelligence by suggesting that they are incapable of
recalling what has already been written.

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Philip TAYLOR wrote:

> Kevin is deaf, badly visually impaired, and in a home for the
> handicapped ; it would be worth bearing these things in mind before
> calling him a troll.

Please reply to the correct post. I did not call him a troll.

Quoting would help as well. Thanks for your considerations.

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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-09 Thread NoOp
On 02/08/2012 07:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 2/8/12 4:58 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
>> Tested with:
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
>> Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0)
>> Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20111228
>> Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
>> Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021
>> Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5  
>> 
>> This one seems to work (Win7):
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0.1)
>> Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
>> 
>> 
> 
> Okay.  I went to  with all cookies blocked and
> no prior google.com cookies.  Then I SUCCESSFULLY did your #3 and #4.  I
> actually tried several links, and all worked for both #3 and #4.
> 

Earlier today I tried on 2.7 and got:

(I still have the tab open from this morning).

But now testing succesfully redirects to test.com. Checked on the other
machines: 2.5 & the 64bit 2.7, WinXP 2.7, and they all work now. Odd, as
I've changed nothing (on any of the machines) - so I can't help but
think it may have been a glitch on google's side. I'll switch back from
yahoo! to google & see if it borks.

Again, thanks for testing David - much appreciated.

Gary
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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Philip TAYLOR

Kevin is deaf, badly visually impaired,
and in a home for the handicapped ; it
would be worth bearing these things in
mind before calling him a troll.

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Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread Jim Taylor

JB wrote:

Sorry, my apologies. A typical URL, is as follows:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19222829.html
but it is also happening with all pages I'm looking at. If you see the
tack/info/task bar running across the picture, that then is what I'm
getting. Not just this picture but every one I view. This has only
started to occur since installing 2.7 a couple of days ago, prior to
that, I've been seeing the bar at the bottom of the picture for well
over a year now, so something very recent has caused this. Got any
ideas please? Regards - jb (dufus) Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012
17:02:35 +0100 From: Ray_Net  To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Image display in SM
2.7 - Win 7 Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed JB wrote:


Hi, searching sites for property for sale, the images usually come up
with an info/navigation bar at the bottom of the picture. Suddenly,
with
newly installed 2.7, this bar now appears right across the picture,
almost central, which is a real handicap. Is there an option somewhere
which will enable this task bar to be moved down to the bottom of the
image?

Regards - dufus



May be if the webmaster create better pages ...
Thanks for not giving us the url



I can verify that I get the same thing on that page with SeaMonkey 2.7 
and that IE displays it correctly. 64 Bit Windows 7 Home Premium - 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0) 
Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7. But I can't help with why. 
 I haven't had any problems with the pages I go to and haven't seen 
anything like that anywhere else except the link you posted.  I ran 
that page through validator.w3.org and it has 68 markup errors and 11 
warnings and 204 CSS errors but I don't know if one of them is causing 
the display problem or not.  However, IE 9 does display it correctly.


Jim
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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Robert Kaiser wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb:
>> km wrote:
>>> ... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!! SeaMonkey has been down
>>> the last 2 days!!! AND i am blaming  you!
>>
>> Take a chill pill, dude. Everyone else's SeaMonkey is working just
>> fine. In fact, you're posting using it. When you recover, post details
>> instead of rant.
> 
> 1) Don't feed the trolls.
> 
> 2) Apparently, he's playing out some kind of weird role playing game
> here in the channel. I wouldn't take those comments as anything than
> in-game play messages.

Yeah, I know .. but he did profess a couple months ago to be a 
handicapped person (blind, I think I remember), so I was willing to give 
him a short leash.  ;-)

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Re: Can't delete messages in SM 2.7

2012-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Rickles wrote:


You're not alone in the behavior you describe. I experienced the same
sort of thing about 2 minutes before reading your submission.
WinXP SP3, patched; SM2.7 updated just 2 or 3 days ago, manually.

Tried to delete an email which didn't delete. And I had the hourglass,
and I had the blank contents, etc.

I've seen the Trash folder issue before, so when my SM hung I went to
Properties/Repair Folder, first on the Inbox and then the Deleted Items
folders. Inbox repair didn't do anything, but Deleted gave me a message
to the effect that it couldn't be processed because it was busy with
something else. So I shut down SM, verified there were no other SM
processes running and started Mail again.

Views were normal, except that now I had the original message in Inbox
and a duplicate in Deleted. This time when I deleted the Inbox instance
it worked, so that I got 2 copies of the same thing in the Deleted
folder.


Have tried your solution, will report back if it works/doesn't.

Thanks for the suggestion.


Nope, problem returned immediately. Thanks anyway.


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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread WLS
On 02/09/2012 02:56 PM, km wrote:



Nope, km dude is gone.

Now I remember why I had a filter for this poster in SeaMonkey.

Bye!

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Re: Can't delete messages in SM 2.7

2012-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rickles wrote:


You're not alone in the behavior you describe. I experienced the same
sort of thing about 2 minutes before reading your submission.
WinXP SP3, patched; SM2.7 updated just 2 or 3 days ago, manually.

Tried to delete an email which didn't delete. And I had the hourglass,
and I had the blank contents, etc.

I've seen the Trash folder issue before, so when my SM hung I went to
Properties/Repair Folder, first on the Inbox and then the Deleted Items
folders. Inbox repair didn't do anything, but Deleted gave me a message
to the effect that it couldn't be processed because it was busy with
something else. So I shut down SM, verified there were no other SM
processes running and started Mail again.

Views were normal, except that now I had the original message in Inbox
and a duplicate in Deleted. This time when I deleted the Inbox instance
it worked, so that I got 2 copies of the same thing in the Deleted folder.


Have tried your solution, will report back if it works/doesn't.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kaiser

Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb:

km wrote:


... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!! SeaMonkey has been down
the last 2 days!!! AND i am blaming  you!


Take a chill pill, dude. Everyone else's SeaMonkey is working just fine.
In fact, you're posting using it. When you recover, post details instead
of rant.


1) Don't feed the trolls.

2) Apparently, he's playing out some kind of weird role playing game 
here in the channel. I wouldn't take those comments as anything than 
in-game play messages.



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Re: ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
km wrote:

> ... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!! SeaMonkey has been down
> the last 2 days!!! AND i am blaming  you!

Take a chill pill, dude. Everyone else's SeaMonkey is working just fine. 
In fact, you're posting using it. When you recover, post details instead 
of rant.

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ooo!! Calek dude is gone!!!

2012-02-09 Thread km

... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!!
SeaMonkey has been down the last 2 days!!! AND i
am blaming  you!

... i think you better heed this warning and take
an early retirement before the big wigs find out and
decide it would be best to fire you.

km

ps;
the above is friendly advice

day 3:

... look, calek dude, i'm getting kinda pissed here, ok?
sees this is my life. ya sure, it's not much of a life but
it *is* a life! you are killing this  life!! murder is
illegal [i think?] i'll see you in court!!!

?Wednesday, ?February ?08, ?2012 5:28:05 PM

... i becum slowly pissed as i contemplate my revenge against the calek 
dude. all i know is the dude must bw stopped.


. it may not do i've decided to take up a petion. it may not do any good 
but these are desperate times. THE MAN MUST BE TOPPED!!!


We, the undersigned call for the dismissal of Calek dude for many reason 
 which are left as an exercise for the acute angles:


Artie Bonk
Mike Hunt
Dick Hertze
Zelda Rottencrotch
Allota Fagina
Kenny Fakur
Mike Rotchburns

7:12:28 PM

... that's it!!! i'[m pissed! i don't like to do this but i'm gonna 
hafta call a press conference:


:press conference!, press conference!

... i have called this press conference together today to announce to 
you, my people, that i, Kevin W Mc Auley, am very dissapointed in the 
'calek dude'. i don't feel that i, or the other denizens of this group 
should have to put up with such irresponsible behavior! and to think i 
once respected the man! i feel he should lose his bathroom privileges 
for this one!!!


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That's impossible. Just try
and free ur mind. then you will
realize the truth. … there is no pain.

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Re: Can't delete messages in SM 2.7

2012-02-09 Thread Rickles

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I wrote:


My normal routine with incoming mail is read, delete, read, delete,
read, delete, etc. except for those messages that should be saved or
answered.

But this morning I've been having trouble deleting (both with the Del
key and with right-click, Delete message). After I've deleted a dozen or
so messages from a particular folder, the function stops working and I
can't delete any messages from that folder. Additionally, no matter
which message I select, the message pane displays the content of the
last selected message, so they all appear to be the same. Drag-and-drop
to Trash stops working, too, though I can drag and drop to other folders.

If I navigate away to a different folder and return, I can display the
various messages correctly, but I can't delete any, and the moment I
try, the display issue returns.

I've tried shutting SM down and deleting the relevant MSF file, which
helps for a little while, but the issue returns. I've also tried
compacting, with or without deleting the MSF file, and that doesn't help
either.

I really don't want to have to shut SM down every five minutes to
restore the delete function. Any other ideas?


Followup: The problem seems to be with the Trash folder in one account
(the primary one) in my profile; the other accounts are unaffected.

Normally, if I click on "Trash," I can view the contents of that folder.
But if I click on "Trash" when the issue is in effect, the spinner
(hourglass) appears and remains indefinitely; the contents of the folder
are not displayed. If I then shut down SM and delete both Trash and
Trash.msf, the issue is gone when I relaunch (as you know, SM creates a
new Trash folder if it doesn't find one).

Even when the issue is in effect, I can still drag/drop messages to
other folders, so a clumsy workaround is to drag/drop messages I want to
delete to some arbitrary holding folder. Later, when I've deleted the
Trash folder and relaunched, I can then delete them from the holding
folder.

If I tell SM to empty the Trash, I can then view the empty Trash folder
without getting the spinner (hourglass), but that doesn't enable me to
delete messages or move them to Trash.

You're not alone in the behavior you describe.  I experienced the same 
sort of thing about 2 minutes before reading your submission.

WinXP SP3, patched; SM2.7 updated just 2 or 3 days ago, manually.

Tried to delete an email which didn't delete.  And I had the hourglass, 
and I had the blank contents, etc.


I've seen the Trash folder issue before, so when my SM hung I went to 
Properties/Repair Folder, first on the Inbox and then the Deleted Items 
folders.  Inbox repair didn't do anything, but Deleted gave me a message 
to the effect that it couldn't be processed because it was busy with 
something else.  So I shut down SM, verified there were no other SM 
processes running and started Mail again.


Views were normal, except that now I had the original message in Inbox 
and a duplicate in Deleted.  This time when I deleted the Inbox instance 
it worked, so that I got 2 copies of the same thing in the Deleted folder.

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Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread JB
Sorry, my apologies. A typical URL, is as follows: 
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19222829.html 
but it is also happening with all pages I'm looking at. If you 
see the tack/info/task bar running across the picture, that then 
is what I'm getting. Not just this picture but every one I view. 
This has only started to occur since installing 2.7 a couple of 
days ago, prior to that, I've been seeing the bar at the bottom 
of the picture for well over a year now, so something very 
recent has caused this. Got any ideas please? Regards - jb 
(dufus)  Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:02:35 +0100 From: 
Ray_Net  To: 
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Image display 
in SM 2.7 - Win 7 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed JB wrote:



Hi, searching sites for property for sale, the images usually come up
with an info/navigation bar at the bottom of the picture.  Suddenly, with
newly installed 2.7, this bar now appears right across the picture,
almost central, which is a real handicap.  Is there an option somewhere
which will enable this task bar to be moved down to the bottom of the
image?

Regards - dufus



May be if the webmaster create better pages ...
Thanks for not giving us the url

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Who's monkeying with the mozilla.support.seamonkey: record in my news.mozilla.com.rc file?

2012-02-09 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Every several months something corrupts the contents of the
mozilla.support.seamonkey: record in the news.mozilla.com.rc file of my
SM profile. All of a sudden, all of the unread articles in the newsgroup
are marked as read. This happens in between news reading sessions.

i.e. when I connect to the server the next time, the number of unread articles
reported has dropped from whatever it was when I ended the previous reading
session, down to only the number of new articles that have just arrived.
If I open the .rc file with an editor, the record for the newsgroup has been
modified to show most of the articles for the newsgroup, as having been
already read.

Since this is happening in between news reading sessions, I think that,
it must be happening when the .rc file is being rewritten, saved back
from memory to disk.

Have any of you also encountered this bug. Is it a known bug, since?...,
I have had it byte me several times in the last year or so, until it's
finally annoyed me enough to write.
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Re: Can't delete messages in SM 2.7

2012-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

I wrote:


My normal routine with incoming mail is read, delete, read, delete,
read, delete, etc. except for those messages that should be saved or
answered.

But this morning I've been having trouble deleting (both with the Del
key and with right-click, Delete message). After I've deleted a dozen or
so messages from a particular folder, the function stops working and I
can't delete any messages from that folder. Additionally, no matter
which message I select, the message pane displays the content of the
last selected message, so they all appear to be the same. Drag-and-drop
to Trash stops working, too, though I can drag and drop to other folders.

If I navigate away to a different folder and return, I can display the
various messages correctly, but I can't delete any, and the moment I
try, the display issue returns.

I've tried shutting SM down and deleting the relevant MSF file, which
helps for a little while, but the issue returns. I've also tried
compacting, with or without deleting the MSF file, and that doesn't help
either.

I really don't want to have to shut SM down every five minutes to
restore the delete function. Any other ideas?


Followup: The problem seems to be with the Trash folder in one account 
(the primary one) in my profile; the other accounts are unaffected.


Normally, if I click on "Trash," I can view the contents of that folder. 
But if I click on "Trash" when the issue is in effect, the spinner 
(hourglass) appears and remains indefinitely; the contents of the folder 
are not displayed. If I then shut down SM and delete both Trash and 
Trash.msf, the issue is gone when I relaunch (as you know, SM creates a 
new Trash folder if it doesn't find one).


Even when the issue is in effect, I can still drag/drop messages to 
other folders, so a clumsy workaround is to drag/drop messages I want to 
delete to some arbitrary holding folder. Later, when I've deleted the 
Trash folder and relaunched, I can then delete them from the holding folder.


If I tell SM to empty the Trash, I can then view the empty Trash folder 
without getting the spinner (hourglass), but that doesn't enable me to 
delete messages or move them to Trash.


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Re: Can't delete messages in SM 2.7

2012-02-09 Thread chicagofan

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

My normal routine with incoming mail is read, delete, read, delete,
read, delete, etc. except for those messages that should be saved or
answered.

But this morning I've been having trouble deleting (both with the Del
key and with right-click, Delete message). After I've deleted a dozen or
so messages from a particular folder, the function stops working and I
can't delete any messages from that folder. Additionally, no matter
which message I select, the message pane displays the content of the
last selected message, so they all appear to be the same. Drag-and-drop
to Trash stops working, too, though I can drag and drop to other folders.

If I navigate away to a different folder and return, I can display the
various messages correctly, but I can't delete any, and the moment I
try, the display issue returns.

I've tried shutting SM down and deleting the relevant MSF file, which
helps for a little while, but the issue returns. I've also tried
compacting, with or without deleting the MSF file, and that doesn't help
either.

I really don't want to have to shut SM down every five minutes to
restore the delete function. Any other ideas?

Thanks.



Sorry, I can't offer any advice, and even sorrier to hear this is a 
problem with 2.7.  I haven't used 2.7 enough to comment, but I began 
having a "delete" problem with Bookmarks in version 2.0.14 very similar 
to what you are experiencing now.


I'm presently moving from one laptop to another, this one has 2.0.14, 
and the new one I received Tuesday has the new 2.7 installation, which 
I'm beginning to regret.  ;)

bj



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Problems of deleting a duplicate folder

2012-02-09 Thread Jim Van Abbema

  
  
I've created a number of folders (many
  with subfolders) in SeaMonkey Mail, which are assigned to various
  clients with incoming mail filtered to the corresponding clients'
  folders.
  
  Today one of the client's folder appeared as a subfolder of
  another.  I have no idea how it got there, but it appeared to have
  been copied because the original folder was intact except for a
  few new messages that had come in, which appeared only in the new
  copied folder.  
  
  I successfully moved the messages from the new folder to the
  original and then attempted to delete the now empty folder.  I got
  an error message that "There is already a folder by that name;
  please try another folder."  I renamed the folder (I called it
  "Delete") but still got the same error message when attempting to
  delete it.
  
  Then I probably complicated things further by attempting to move
  the newly named "Delete" folder into the original folder.  It did
  as was expected and created "Delete" as a subfolder.  But
  unfortunately "Delete" also remained a subfolder under the other
  client's folder.  Again I attempted to delete "Delete" in that
  location and got the same error message.  So I went back to the
  original folder and attempted to delete it there.  But that action
  causes SM Mail to crash.  :-(  
  I ran Compact Folders, but it has had no effect.  I am reluctant
  to try any thing else for fear of making matters worse.  So far I
  have not lost any messages; I just have two empty subfolders under
  two main client folders that I cannot remove.
  
  Any suggestions would be appreciated!
  
  Jim  

  

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are you on Facebook? Fluff Busting Purity now compatible w/Seamonkey

2012-02-09 Thread sean nathan bean
Facebook is now the bane of many folks online existence... I certainly 
have a love/hate relationship with it, being that its the only way to 
stay in contact with younger members of one's family anymore...


but the noise and advertising are so annoying... but now I'm happy to 
have discovered that


http://www.fbpurity.com/

works in Seamonkey...

yippee...

sean


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Re: [Off-topic] 800 x 600 full-screen in Windows 7

2012-02-09 Thread chicagofan

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Composing mail : type a character or two, then press and hold
"control" while rotating your mouse wheel; the characters
should get progressively larger.

Should also work for most web sites.


In my 2.6.1, you need not launch a composition window or type anything.
Just do CTRL-wheel and it varies the font size. When you reply, the
setting is remembered and the composition window opens with the
larger/smaller font.




Wow, thanks guys!  That will help.  :)

I don't understand why the appearance settings for font size and type 
don't appear to be working.  I'm thinking about going back to a version 
of SM in which those controls do work and the Walnut theme is up to 
date, if I can find out what version that would be.  ;)

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Can't delete messages in SM 2.7

2012-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
My normal routine with incoming mail is read, delete, read, delete, 
read, delete, etc. except for those messages that should be saved or 
answered.


But this morning I've been having trouble deleting (both with the Del 
key and with right-click, Delete message). After I've deleted a dozen or 
so messages from a particular folder, the function stops working and I 
can't delete any messages from that folder. Additionally, no matter 
which message I select, the message pane displays the content of the 
last selected message, so they all appear to be the same. Drag-and-drop 
to Trash stops working, too, though I can drag and drop to other folders.


If I navigate away to a different folder and return, I can display the 
various messages correctly, but I can't delete any, and the moment I 
try, the display issue returns.


I've tried shutting SM down and deleting the relevant MSF file, which 
helps for a little while, but the issue returns. I've also tried 
compacting, with or without deleting the MSF file, and that doesn't help 
either.


I really don't want to have to shut SM down every five minutes to 
restore the delete function. Any other ideas?


Thanks.

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Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread Ray_Net

JB wrote:


Hi, searching sites for property for sale, the images usually come up
with an info/navigation bar at the bottom of the picture.  Suddenly, with
newly installed 2.7, this bar now appears right across the picture,
almost central, which is a real handicap.  Is there an option somewhere
which will enable this task bar to be moved down to the bottom of the 
image?


Regards - dufus



May be if the webmaster create better pages ...
Thanks for not giving us the url :-)
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Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7

2012-02-09 Thread JB


Hi, searching sites for property for sale, the images usually 
come up
with an info/navigation bar at the bottom of the picture.  
Suddenly, with

newly installed 2.7, this bar now appears right across the picture,
almost central, which is a real handicap.  Is there an option 
somewhere
which will enable this task bar to be moved down to the bottom 
of the image?


Regards - dufus


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Re: one for the calek dude

2012-02-09 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

W3BNR wrote:

Dick Hertze


Is this the same Dick Hertze from Holden?

Holden consult
Hauanveien 34, 3213 Sandefjord, Norway

???

[yes *that* is certainly meant as a lewd joke]

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Re: one for the calek dude

2012-02-09 Thread W3BNR
On 2/8/2012 11:13 PM km submitted the following:
> ... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!!
> SeaMonkey has been down the last 2 days!!! AND i
> am blaming  you!
> 
> ... i think you better heed this warning and take
> an early retirement before the big wigs find out and
> decide it would be best to fire you.
> 
> km
> 
> ps;
> the above is friendly advice
> 
> day 3:
> 
> ... look, calek dude, i'm getting kinda pissed here, ok?
> sees this is my life. ya sure, it's not much of a life but
> it *is* a life! you are killing this  life!! murder is
> illegal [i think?] i'll see you in court!!!
> 
> ?Wednesday, ?February ?08, ?2012 5:28:05 PM
> 
> ... i becum slowly pissed as i contemplate my revenge against the calek dude.
> all i know is the dude must bw stopped.
> 
> . it may not do i've decided to take up a petion. it may not do any good but
> these are desperate times. THE MAN MUST BE TOPPED!!!
> 
> We, the undersigned call for the dismissal of Calek dude for many reason  
> which
> are left as an exercise for the acute angles:
> 
> Artie Bonk
> Mike Hunt
> Dick Hertze
> Zelda Rottencrotch
> Allota Fagina
> Kenny Fakur
> Mike Rotchburns
> 
> 7:12:28 PM
> 
> ... that's it!!! i'[m pissed! i don't like to do this but i'm gonna hafta 
> call a
> press conference:
> 
> :press conference!, press conference!
> 
> ... i have called this press conference together today to announce to you, my
> people, that i, Kevin W Mc Auley, am very dissapointed in the 'calek dude'. i
> don't feel that i, or the other denizens of this group should have to put up
> with such irresponsible behavior! and to think i once respected the man! i 
> feel
> he should lose his bathroom privileges for this one!!!
> 

Kevin - You turned too many pages on your calendar last week.  This is February,
Valentine's Day - Not April, April Fools Day.



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Possible bug with Flah

2012-02-09 Thread Frank
There appears to be a bug with SM 2.7 that I hadn't noticed with earlier 
versions. When I run a Flash video, say on Youtube, I notice after a 
while  that the menu bar becomes inactive. Once that happens, not only 
can you not access any of the option buttons, but even clickiing amy 
Personal Toolbar buttons (which have not blanked out) does not work 
either.The only way to restore the situation is to close SM and restart it.


Anyone else had this problem?

Frank

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Re: one for the calek dude

2012-02-09 Thread Edmund
MCBastos wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 09/02/2012 02:13, km told the world:
>> ... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!!
>> SeaMonkey has been down the last 2 days!!! AND i
>> am blaming  you!
> 
> Uh... are we supposed to take this at face value? Because if it's
> supposed to be a joke, it's missing a couple emoticons.
> 
No. It's not missing emoticons. It's missing "sense".
There's zero context in that message to even remotely give
the reader any sense of what's going on.

Edmund
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Re: one for the calek dude

2012-02-09 Thread Edmund
km wrote:
> ... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!!
> SeaMonkey has been down the last 2 days!!! AND i
> am blaming  you!

Uh oh.  Someone has forgotten to take his medication.

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Re: one for the calek dude

2012-02-09 Thread Daniel

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

km wrote:

... i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!!
SeaMonkey has been down the last 2 days!!! AND i
am blaming you!

... i think you better heed this warning and take
an early retirement before the big wigs find out and
decide it would be best to fire you.

km


Note that I am not an employee, and do this and work on this, in
strictly my free time, and out of pure passion for the product.



and there are a heck of a lot here and here-abouts that are thankful for 
the efforts you, Callek, and the rest of the SeaMonkey Council do just 
for the hell of it and the benefit of most of those here-abouts.



Blame will get you nowhere, and I am not afraid of being fired, as I
won't lose any money if so.

That said, I'll presume you are just frustrated at the moment, and will
now read the rest of your message as if this quoted part was never said.



This "km" dude must be on some bad stuff!

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Daniel
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Re: link to local named anchors...

2012-02-09 Thread HoganGABRIELLE
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