"Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread Philip TAYLOR 

1) Cannot be copied, so makes reporting issues with it
more difficult than need be;

2) Fails to indicate which plug-ins are required,
instead inviting the user  to "Install plugin ..." with
all the concomitant risks that that might involve.

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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread WLS 
On 02/17/2012 04:26 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> 1) Cannot be copied, so makes reporting issues with it
> more difficult than need be;
> 
> 2) Fails to indicate which plug-ins are required,
> instead inviting the user  to "Install plugin ..." with
> all the concomitant risks that that might involve.
> 
> Philip Taylor

Failed to provide a link so we could check the site.


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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



WLS wrote:


Failed to provide a link so we could check the site.


Any site that requires a plug-in that the user does not
have currently installed.  Since I have no idea which
plug-ins anyone else has installed, there is little
point in referring them to any specific URL.  This
one (taken at random from Youtube) demonstrates the
problem on my machine; whether it would do the same
for those who already have the necessary plug-in
seems moot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRFv5ynyoF0&feature=context&context=G27e6472RVAQ

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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread WLS 
On 02/17/2012 10:17 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> 
> 
> WLS wrote:
> 
>> Failed to provide a link so we could check the site.
> 
> Any site that requires a plug-in that the user does not
> have currently installed.  Since I have no idea which
> plug-ins anyone else has installed, there is little
> point in referring them to any specific URL.  This
> one (taken at random from Youtube) demonstrates the
> problem on my machine; whether it would do the same
> for those who already have the necessary plug-in
> seems moot.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRFv5ynyoF0&feature=context&context=G27e6472RVAQ
> 
> 
> Philip Taylor

That one would be Flash.

So what does about:plugins show for you?

Mine shows:

Shockwave Flash
Java
Quicktime
DivX Web Player
VLC Multimedia
Windows Media Player

Help for installing plugins is available from

http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/


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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

WLS wrote:


On 02/17/2012 10:17 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:


WLS wrote:


Failed to provide a link so we could check the site.


Any site that requires a plug-in that the user does not
have currently installed.  Since I have no idea which
plug-ins anyone else has installed, there is little
point in referring them to any specific URL.  This
one (taken at random from Youtube) demonstrates the
problem on my machine; whether it would do the same
for those who already have the necessary plug-in
seems moot.




That one would be Flash.

So what does about:plugins show for you?

Mine shows:

Shockwave Flash
Java
Quicktime
DivX Web Player
VLC Multimedia
Windows Media Player

Help for installing plugins is available from



I'm sure Philip knows, as most of us do, how to install a particular 
plugin. What he's concerned about -- and I have been, too -- is that 
"Install plugin..." seems to be asking the user to write a blank check. 
It doesn't say "learn more..." or something, it seems to want permission 
to install some unnamed software with no understanding of its source or 
nature. How many sane people will do that?


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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



WLS wrote:


That one would be Flash.

So what does about:plugins show for you?

Mine shows:

Shockwave Flash
Java
Quicktime
DivX Web Player
VLC Multimedia
Windows Media Player

Help for installing plugins is available from

http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/


Some confusion, WLS.  I am not asking "How do I install
Flash", I am asking (a) Why can't I copy the text
"Additional plugins are required to display all the media on 
this page" in order to simplify fault reporting, and (b)

why does Seamonkey (2.7.1) not tell me /which/ plug-in
it is proposing to install rather than asking me to blindly
authorise it to install whatever plug-in it chooses ?

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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread WLS 
On 02/17/2012 10:32 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> WLS wrote:
> 
>> On 02/17/2012 10:17 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>>>
>>> WLS wrote:
>>>
 Failed to provide a link so we could check the site.
>>>
>>> Any site that requires a plug-in that the user does not
>>> have currently installed.  Since I have no idea which
>>> plug-ins anyone else has installed, there is little
>>> point in referring them to any specific URL.  This
>>> one (taken at random from Youtube) demonstrates the
>>> problem on my machine; whether it would do the same
>>> for those who already have the necessary plug-in
>>> seems moot.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> That one would be Flash.
>>
>> So what does about:plugins show for you?
>>
>> Mine shows:
>>
>> Shockwave Flash
>> Java
>> Quicktime
>> DivX Web Player
>> VLC Multimedia
>> Windows Media Player
>>
>> Help for installing plugins is available from
>> 
> 
> I'm sure Philip knows, as most of us do, how to install a particular
> plugin. What he's concerned about -- and I have been, too -- is that
> "Install plugin..." seems to be asking the user to write a blank check.
> It doesn't say "learn more..." or something, it seems to want permission
> to install some unnamed software with no understanding of its source or
> nature. How many sane people will do that?
> 

Hope he solves his problem.

I just disabled all my plugins, restarted SeaMonkey and the video at
that link still played for me. View Page Source shows the page encoded
in HTML5, so is probably using the  tag somewhere.

The missing plugin issue is being addressed. In the road map for the
second half of this year.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Improved_missing_plugin_experience

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Re: "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"

2012-02-17 Thread WLS 
On 02/17/2012 10:37 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> 
> 
> WLS wrote:
> 
>> That one would be Flash.
>>
>> So what does about:plugins show for you?
>>
>> Mine shows:
>>
>> Shockwave Flash
>> Java
>> Quicktime
>> DivX Web Player
>> VLC Multimedia
>> Windows Media Player
>>
>> Help for installing plugins is available from
>>
>> http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/
> 
> Some confusion, WLS.  I am not asking "How do I install
> Flash", I am asking (a) Why can't I copy the text
> "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page"
> in order to simplify fault reporting, and (b)
> why does Seamonkey (2.7.1) not tell me /which/ plug-in
> it is proposing to install rather than asking me to blindly
> authorise it to install whatever plug-in it chooses ?
> 
> Philip Taylor

OK.

I'm wondering why you are getting the message at all.

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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread TMitchell 

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it, nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.

I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read 
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5 
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first 
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do 
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.

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Re: gmail ...

2012-02-17 Thread hawker 

On 2/16/2012 6:15 PM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 16/02/2012 20:07, hawker told the world:


There are plenty of valid reasons to use POP over IMAP, especially if
you have a limited bandwidth connection (such as cell phone).  I have
some of my e-mail accounts IMAP, and some POP. There are valid reasons
why I use both and different ones for different accounts.


Actually, for limited bandwidth IMAP is a rather good choice, since you
don't run the risk of downloading 20mb attachments by accident. You
don't even have to download the message *body* if you know from the
header that it can wait until you are somewhere with better/unlimited
bandwidth.



I suppose for some accounts that could be true. For my work account on 
my phone I have it set to not download any attachment over 50k unless I 
say. POP downloads anything new and takes a few seconds to check the 
account (on thing to check, only new files I have not downloaded). IMAP 
must check though all the folders on the IMAP account and so take around 
90 seconds for my work account. It must also sync up anything that has 
changed and that I have done locally which takes another 30-120 seconds.


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Seamonkey 2.7.2?

2012-02-17 Thread MCBastos 
I notice that both Firefox and Thunderbird released versions 10.0.2. So,
whatever is the chemspill bug this time, it doesn't look
Firefox-specific. Therefore, should we expect Seamonkey 2.7.2 anytime soon?

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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread Justin Wood (Callek) 

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it, nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.


I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.


What OS are you on?

How do you update SeaMonkey?

How do you install SeaMonkey manually when its broken?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.7.2?

2012-02-17 Thread AlainF 

look at :

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.7.2

MCBastos a écrit :

I notice that both Firefox and Thunderbird released versions 10.0.2. So,
whatever is the chemspill bug this time, it doesn't look
Firefox-specific. Therefore, should we expect Seamonkey 2.7.2 anytime soon?


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Re: Seamonkey 2.7.2?

2012-02-17 Thread Jens Hatlak 

MCBastos wrote:

I notice that both Firefox and Thunderbird released versions 10.0.2. So,
whatever is the chemspill bug this time, it doesn't look
Firefox-specific. Therefore, should we expect Seamonkey 2.7.2 anytime soon?


Yes, today (and 2.8b3 tomorrow).

HTH

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Re: Seamonkey 2.7.2?

2012-02-17 Thread WLS 
On 02/17/2012 12:39 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
> MCBastos wrote:
>> I notice that both Firefox and Thunderbird released versions 10.0.2. So,
>> whatever is the chemspill bug this time, it doesn't look
>> Firefox-specific. Therefore, should we expect Seamonkey 2.7.2 anytime
>> soon?
> 
> Yes, today (and 2.8b3 tomorrow).
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jens
> 


Thanks for reminding me! I gotta file that bug report about my SeaMonkey
2.7 beta not updating when I check for updates.

I'm pretty sure all my settings are the way I want them. Still not
updating when I click Help > Check for updates.


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Re: E-Mail Account Password

2012-02-17 Thread Cecil Bankston 

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/02/2012 12:42, Cecil Bankston told the world:

I have Seamonkey Mail set for POP download from my ISP and from GMail.
Recently, each time I start Mail I have to enter my GMail password; and
there is no option in the password dialog to have SM remember the
password as it previously had.  How can I get SM to enter the password
automatically?


That's strange. I have no problems with Gmail. Perhaps your saved
password is corrupted?

Go in Tools, Data Manager. Type "gmail" in the left-hand search box.
Select "gmail.com". Now go to the right-hand pane, select the
"Passwords" tab. Delete the relevant passwords (note that there should
be two passwords -- one for POP and one for SMTP).

Now try downloading from Gmail again. With no saved password, it should
offer to save again

Thanks for the advice.  Unfortunately it didn't work.  I deleted the 
passwords as you directed.  The next time I opened SM Mail it again 
requested the password for GMail without any option to save the 
password.  I would welcome any other suggestions.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.7.2?

2012-02-17 Thread Ant 

On 2/17/2012 9:28 AM PT, MCBastos typed:


I notice that both Firefox and Thunderbird released versions 10.0.2. So,
whatever is the chemspill bug this time, it doesn't look
Firefox-specific. Therefore, should we expect Seamonkey 2.7.2 anytime soon?


My installed SM v2.7.1, in Debian stable, doesn't show an update through 
its checker. :( Amusing, 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/ says the fix 
from Debian Security Advisor (DSA). What the heck? :(

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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread TMitchell 

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it,
nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.


I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.


What OS are you on?

How do you update SeaMonkey?

How do you install SeaMonkey manually when its broken?

Be as specific as possible.


Windows XP SP3

I always update by downloading the latest version from the Seamonkey.org 
website and running it's installer program.


I have not been able to install it at all since Ver 2.5.  (I always have 
to do a system restore using Acronis True Image) to get back there.)


As soon as the installer gets to the screen to finish and I select 
"Launch Seamonkey", the screen flashes quickly (one time it looked like 
a pop up was opened for checking extensions) ans then in less than a 
second vanishes taking the newly installed desktop icon with it. 
Subsequent attempts to launch bring the "XUIL Runner" error message.



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Override Add-on Manager

2012-02-17 Thread Stan 
Image Zoom has been identified as incompatible. Actually it was working 
fine until I enabled checking. How do I get Image Zoom to run again?


Thanks
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Re: Override Add-on Manager

2012-02-17 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 17/02/2012 20:00, Stan told the world:
> Image Zoom has been identified as incompatible. Actually it was working 
> fine until I enabled checking. How do I get Image Zoom to run again?

Install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on.

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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread Justin Wood (Callek) 

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it,
nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may
not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.


I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.


What OS are you on?

How do you update SeaMonkey?

How do you install SeaMonkey manually when its broken?

Be as specific as possible.


Windows XP SP3

I always update by downloading the latest version from the Seamonkey.org
website and running it's installer program.

I have not been able to install it at all since Ver 2.5. (I always have
to do a system restore using Acronis True Image) to get back there.)


These two paragraphs worry me and confuse me.

So you download the Setup .exe from our website, save it locally then 
try to run the installer. It doesn't work? (if so how do you get it) and 
then System Restore (why, what is the error message/problem to cause that)




As soon as the installer gets to the screen to finish and I select
"Launch Seamonkey", the screen flashes quickly (one time it looked like
a pop up was opened for checking extensions) ans then in less than a
second vanishes taking the newly installed desktop icon with it.
Subsequent attempts to launch bring the "XUIL Runner" error message.


It sounds like in your case this is a function of the former issue. 
(application.ini is certainly in in the .exe installer)


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Re: Override Add-on Manager

2012-02-17 Thread Stan 

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 17/02/2012 20:00, Stan told the world:

Image Zoom has been identified as incompatible. Actually it was working
fine until I enabled checking. How do I get Image Zoom to run again?


Install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on.

I already have this installed but I think its function has changed. I 
tried reinstalling Image Zoom and it won't install. I was running fine 
until the Add-ons Manager caused it to be marked Incompatible.  Now I 
can't find a way to reverse that.

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Re: Override Add-on Manager

2012-02-17 Thread WLS 
On 02/17/2012 05:00 PM, Stan wrote:
> Image Zoom has been identified as incompatible. Actually it was working
> fine until I enabled checking. How do I get Image Zoom to run again?
> 
> Thanks
> Stan

Image Zoom is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.7.2

Version 0.4.6 Released December 26, 2010 78.8 KB

Works with Firefox 3.0 - 10.*, SeaMonkey 2.0 - 2.0.*, Thunderbird 2.0 -
3.1.*

You could try editing the install.rdf file so the min version is 2.1 and
max version is something higher like 2.9.*

That worked for me.

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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Gordon 

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me
at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it,
nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should
alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may
not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and
affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't
find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could
find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.


I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.


What OS are you on?

How do you update SeaMonkey?

How do you install SeaMonkey manually when its broken?

Be as specific as possible.


Windows XP SP3

I always update by downloading the latest version from the Seamonkey.org
website and running it's installer program.

I have not been able to install it at all since Ver 2.5. (I always have
to do a system restore using Acronis True Image) to get back there.)


These two paragraphs worry me and confuse me.

So you download the Setup .exe from our website, save it locally then
try to run the installer. It doesn't work? (if so how do you get it) and
then System Restore (why, what is the error message/problem to cause that)



As soon as the installer gets to the screen to finish and I select
"Launch Seamonkey", the screen flashes quickly (one time it looked like
a pop up was opened for checking extensions) ans then in less than a
second vanishes taking the newly installed desktop icon with it.
Subsequent attempts to launch bring the "XUIL Runner" error message.


It sounds like in your case this is a function of the former issue.
(application.ini is certainly in in the .exe installer)



Callek,

Perhaps the OP has a Windows XP sr3 configuration change in his system.
Maybe he is using a restricted user account.
Maybe his Firewall, or AV is blocking the running of the .ini file.

I run the same system and have no problems installing any SM updates.

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Re: Override Add-on Manager

2012-02-17 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 17/02/2012 21:21, Stan told the world:
> MCBastos wrote:
>> Interviewed by CNN on 17/02/2012 20:00, Stan told the world:
>>> Image Zoom has been identified as incompatible. Actually it was working
>>> fine until I enabled checking. How do I get Image Zoom to run again?
>>
>> Install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on.
>>
> I already have this installed but I think its function has changed. I 
> tried reinstalling Image Zoom and it won't install. I was running fine 
> until the Add-ons Manager caused it to be marked Incompatible.  Now I 
> can't find a way to reverse that.


Hmm. When you enabled checking, you reset the
extensions.CheckCompatibility pref to its default (true) value. For some
reason, the Reporter does not provide UI to reset it to "false."

BUT, I think it DOES set it to "false" when initially installed. So, you
might try REMOVING the Add-on Compatibility Reporter and then
reinstalling it.

Failing that, you can manually set the pref to "false" in about:config.
I remember doing so in the early days of SM 2.1.

What surprised me on checking about:config is that there are now
something like 50 variants of that pref, apparently to deal with
specific cases. I don't know if those are part of the new "compatible by
default" approach, or if the Reporter set them. They are all set to
"false" in my copy.

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Re: E-Mail Account Password

2012-02-17 Thread Philip Chee 
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:34:14 -0600, Cecil Bankston wrote:
> MCBastos wrote:
>> Interviewed by CNN on 15/02/2012 12:42, Cecil Bankston told the world:
>>> I have Seamonkey Mail set for POP download from my ISP and from GMail.
>>> Recently, each time I start Mail I have to enter my GMail password; and
>>> there is no option in the password dialog to have SM remember the
>>> password as it previously had.  How can I get SM to enter the password
>>> automatically?
>>
>> That's strange. I have no problems with Gmail. Perhaps your saved
>> password is corrupted?
>>
>> Go in Tools, Data Manager. Type "gmail" in the left-hand search box.
>> Select "gmail.com". Now go to the right-hand pane, select the
>> "Passwords" tab. Delete the relevant passwords (note that there should
>> be two passwords -- one for POP and one for SMTP).
>>
>> Now try downloading from Gmail again. With no saved password, it should
>> offer to save again
>>
> Thanks for the advice.  Unfortunately it didn't work.  I deleted the 
> passwords as you directed.  The next time I opened SM Mail it again 
> requested the password for GMail without any option to save the 
> password.  I would welcome any other suggestions.

Do you have gmail in the "never remember passwords from this site" section?

Phil

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Re: E-Mail Account Password

2012-02-17 Thread Larry S. 


Do you have gmail in the "never remember passwords from this site" section?

Phil

Hmmm . . . AFAIK that section disappeared with the advent of the Data 
Manager. Anyhow, can't find it. What am I missing?


Larry
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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread TMitchell 

Michael Gordon wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me
at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it,
nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should
alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may
not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and
affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so
I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from
me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't
find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could
find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.


I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.


What OS are you on?

How do you update SeaMonkey?

How do you install SeaMonkey manually when its broken?

Be as specific as possible.


Windows XP SP3

I always update by downloading the latest version from the Seamonkey.org
website and running it's installer program.

I have not been able to install it at all since Ver 2.5. (I always have
to do a system restore using Acronis True Image) to get back there.)


These two paragraphs worry me and confuse me.

So you download the Setup .exe from our website, save it locally then
try to run the installer. It doesn't work? (if so how do you get it) and
then System Restore (why, what is the error message/problem to cause
that)



As soon as the installer gets to the screen to finish and I select
"Launch Seamonkey", the screen flashes quickly (one time it looked like
a pop up was opened for checking extensions) ans then in less than a
second vanishes taking the newly installed desktop icon with it.
Subsequent attempts to launch bring the "XUIL Runner" error message.


It sounds like in your case this is a function of the former issue.
(application.ini is certainly in in the .exe installer)



Callek,

Perhaps the OP has a Windows XP sr3 configuration change in his system.
Maybe he is using a restricted user account.
Maybe his Firewall, or AV is blocking the running of the .ini file.

I run the same system and have no problems installing any SM updates.

Michael G

None of the above.  Absolutely no changes to any programs or OS settings 
have been made in the time before or after encountering the problems 
updating since ver. 2.5

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Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-17 Thread TMitchell 

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ok guys, I need your help.

I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about
application.ini being missing.

Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me
at a
update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened.

I need that log to help diagnose why, since I have never hit it,
nor do
I know of any other developer who has.

That said, I just landed a patch on trunk today that should
alleviate
much of this problem (by doing something pretty different), it may
not
fix this bug if it is just manifesting as application.ini and
affects
other parts. It is also too risky of a change for any branch, so I'd
want to get a simpler fix in for 2.8 and 2.9


You asked for the update log in answer to a previous posting from me,
but you showed a path for W7. I've searched my XP SP3 and don't
find a
file by that name. Any suggestions? Love to send it in if I could
find
it!


Sorry for the delay here, my time got really squashed...

Anyway, on my machine its at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey\updates

Where "Justin" is my windows username. And some of these folders are
marked "hidden".

Thank You.


I have experienced the "XUL Runner" error message box "Can't read
application .ini" every time I have tried updating since Ver.2.5
(frustrating enough so that I am about to switch to IE for the first
time ever, and I've been around since the pre-Netscape days), but I do
not have the file folder on my system that you referenced.


What OS are you on?

How do you update SeaMonkey?

How do you install SeaMonkey manually when its broken?

Be as specific as possible.


Windows XP SP3

I always update by downloading the latest version from the Seamonkey.org
website and running it's installer program.

I have not been able to install it at all since Ver 2.5. (I always have
to do a system restore using Acronis True Image) to get back there.)


These two paragraphs worry me and confuse me.

So you download the Setup .exe from our website, save it locally then
try to run the installer. It doesn't work? (if so how do you get it) and
then System Restore (why, what is the error message/problem to cause that)


It is as I posted.  The downloaded program seems to install until I try 
to actually launch it, then it does what I stated earlier.  The repeated 
error message that pops up after trying to launch the completed update 
each time means I cannot get back into Seamonkey at all unless I restore 
my system to its previous configuration with ver. 2.5.  I can either do 
a complete system restore or else just restore The entire 2.5 Seamonkey 
programs folder and Profile.  Barring that, no Seamonkey.




As soon as the installer gets to the screen to finish and I select
"Launch Seamonkey", the screen flashes quickly (one time it looked like
a pop up was opened for checking extensions) ans then in less than a
second vanishes taking the newly installed desktop icon with it.
Subsequent attempts to launch bring the "XUIL Runner" error message.


It sounds like in your case this is a function of the former issue.
(application.ini is certainly in in the .exe installer)


Not sure what you mean by "the former issue".

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Does Linux SeaMonkey v2.7.2 have a chrome directory?

2012-02-17 Thread Ant 
I cannot seem to find them in my Debian box's SM2 profile directory. I 
did find IceWeasel (aka Firefox) v3.6.27's though. I am trying to edit 
user*.css files.


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Re: Problem on a mac

2012-02-17 Thread Jewel23Cervantes 
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Re: Thunderbird Bugday, Thursday 04/17 - Join us to help improve Thunderbird bug reports!

2012-02-17 Thread MELANIEMcdonald 
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