Some web pages have no font anti-aliasing (Linux version)

2012-03-21 Thread Kertesz Laszlo

Hello,

I observed that fonts on some web pages seem to lack anti-aliasing. Example:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/

I use Debian and i tried both the version from the repos (2.7.3) and the 
official builds from the site, they all behave the same. Firefox/Iceweasel 
behaves the same though, so i suppose that the issue is down to the rendering 
engine.
Other pages look fine with anti aliasing and all.

Why is that? Other browsers (Chrome/Chromium, Opera) have no such issues (but 
Midori seems to behave just like Seamonkey though). 

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Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail

2012-03-21 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/20/12 10:18 PM, Mike C wrote:
 Is there a way to Use Wingdings in SM mail?

There was an extensive discussion about Wingdings in Web pages, not so
long ago.  The conclusion is that, since this is contrary to the HTML
specifications, it is generally NOT allowed.  Only those special
characters that are part of the Unicode standard can be represented in
HTML.

Since Wingdings are not supported by plain-text, ASCII-formatted E-mail,
you would need to use HTML-formatted E-mail.  You would thus face the
same restrictions imposed by the HTML specifications that apply to Web
pages.

See:
http://www.unicode.org/
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/named-character-references.html
(best viewed with JavaScript disabled before loading and with [View 
Text Zoom  150%])
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/characters.html
http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html

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Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail

2012-03-21 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 21/03/2012 02:18, Mike C told the world:
 Is there a way to Use Wingdings in SM mail?

I don't think so. Not easily, anyway. The problem with
wingdings/webdings and other dingbat fonts is that they aren't Unicode
fonts, so there's no way to provide a fallback glyph if the recipient
happens to not have that particular font: the recipient has to have a
compatible font, that is, one with the the glyphs in the exact same
order, AND to be configured to map the fonts correctly if they don't
have the exact same name.

Since e-mail (and Webmaking, for that matter) is a medium where you have
*no* control over the environment where it will be read, this is
discouraged -- because it's a recipe for broken pages.

Say you pick a nice broad arrow pointing right in Wingdings3; this is
character 0xE2. Unless the recipient has Wingdings 3, he won't be able
to see the arrow. Even having a large Unicode font, like Arial Sans
Unicode (which, I'm pretty sure, does have glyphs for right-pointing
arrows), won't be any help, because 0xE2 in any Unicode font points to
the character â. Even having a different Wingding font won't help,
because, for instance, in WingDings2 this code points to an asterisk.

Yes, Windows and Macs usually do have this font installed. So what? This
is no longer a Windows-only world. For instance, AFAIK Android phones
and tablets don't come with a Wingdings-compatible font. Same, I think,
for Blackberries. (I have seen some info that IOS devices do have
Wingdings, but apparently it's called Wingdings-regular there.) In the
Linux world, you can't be certain that there will be a compatible font
installed. And so on.

Is it POSSIBLE? Well, maybe. Seamonkey Mail and Composer won't even list
fonts with weird glyph mappings, such as Wingdings. But there might be
some way to work around it. I just don't think it's worth the trouble.
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Re: Some web pages have no font anti-aliasing (Linux version)

2012-03-21 Thread GerardJan

Kertesz Laszlo wrote:


Hello,

I observed that fonts on some web pages seem to lack anti-aliasing. Example:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/

I use Debian and i tried both the version from the repos (2.7.3) and the 
official builds from the site, they all behave the same. Firefox/Iceweasel 
behaves the same though, so i suppose that the issue is down to the rendering 
engine.
Other pages look fine with anti aliasing and all.

Why is that? Other browsers (Chrome/Chromium, Opera) have no such issues (but 
Midori seems to behave just like Seamonkey though).



i really don´t know, Fedora stays on 2.7.1

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Re: Some web pages have no font anti-aliasing (Linux version)

2012-03-21 Thread Kertesz Laszlo
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:24:29 +0100
GerardJan gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kertesz Laszlo wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I observed that fonts on some web pages seem to lack anti-aliasing. Example:
 
  http://asoiaf.westeros.org/
 
  I use Debian and i tried both the version from the repos (2.7.3) and the 
  official builds from the site, they all behave the same. Firefox/Iceweasel 
  behaves the same though, so i suppose that the issue is down to the 
  rendering engine.
  Other pages look fine with anti aliasing and all.
 
  Why is that? Other browsers (Chrome/Chromium, Opera) have no such issues 
  (but Midori seems to behave just like Seamonkey though).
 
 
 i really don´t know, Fedora stays on 2.7.1
 

Its NOT the version that is of interest here, its the way that the rendering 
engine behaves on certain pages. And this issue is since a long time, i have 
seen it in older versions too (it persists in the 2.8 version). BTW the link is 
safe, it is a forum regarding game of thrones (both series and the books).



PS. For those that are baffled by the debian seamonkey (iceape) version: the 
2.7.3 version is not an official one, it seems to be a debian maintainer 
patched something. From the changelog:

* New manually-made upstream release. (Upstream Seamonkey doesn't release
from the ESR branch)




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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-21 Thread Daniel

Jesse Molina wrote:


Follow-up on this issue from last month.

I had posted about using Seamonkey on Linux. I use mail and browser and
have a lot of tabs open and I almost never reboot or restart Seamonkey
unless I need to. I was finding that Seamonkey was really dragging with
the amount of load I was putting it under, and drag-and-drop features
would stop working often, requiring a restart to fix.

Someone suggested I try the 64bit version of Seamonkey, and I now am.

The performance improvement is dramatically positive. I have not yet
experienced the same trouble that I was having before, and I have really
tried to open a lot of windows and tabs.

Unfortunately, I just realized that Google maps is not working for me.
Otherwise, I had not had any other technical issues. Yahoo maps are
working fine though.



Google Maps works for me, SM 2.8 on Mandriva Linux 2007!


I did not mention it in my original post, but I was also having problems
with Flash and other videos jumping, skipping and doing other bad things
during playback. This is not longer happening.

Same user profile as before.



Jesse Molina wrote:


Oh really... I had no idea.

Do any plugins or addons have any problem with it?

Do you know of any other trouble that I might want to look out for?

Thanks for the tip! I will definitely try it out.



Daniel wrote:

Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!

Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2





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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-21 Thread Jesse Molina


Thanks for the report.  I will check my own setup and see what the cause 
might be.


It could be one of my addons not working correctly.



Daniel wrote:

Google Maps works for me, SM 2.8 on Mandriva Linux 2007!


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Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail

2012-03-21 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:19:36 -0300, MCBastos wrote:

 Yes, Windows and Macs usually do have this font installed. So what? This
 is no longer a Windows-only world. For instance, AFAIK Android phones
 and tablets don't come with a Wingdings-compatible font. Same, I think,
 for Blackberries.

But Androids and iOS do come with Emoji compatible fonts.

Phil (insert emoji for laughing cat here)

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Re: Some web pages have no font anti-aliasing (Linux version)

2012-03-21 Thread GerardJan

Kertesz Laszlo wrote:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:24:29 +0100
GerardJangertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com  wrote:


Kertesz Laszlo wrote:


Hello,

I observed that fonts on some web pages seem to lack anti-aliasing. Example:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/

I use Debian and i tried both the version from the repos (2.7.3) and the 
official builds from the site, they all behave the same. Firefox/Iceweasel 
behaves the same though, so i suppose that the issue is down to the rendering 
engine.
Other pages look fine with anti aliasing and all.

Why is that? Other browsers (Chrome/Chromium, Opera) have no such issues (but 
Midori seems to behave just like Seamonkey though).



i really don´t know, Fedora stays on 2.7.1



Its NOT the version that is of interest here, its the way that the rendering 
engine behaves on certain pages. And this issue is since a long time, i have 
seen it in older versions too (it persists in the 2.8 version). BTW the link is 
safe, it is a forum regarding game of thrones (both series and the books).



PS. For those that are baffled by the debian seamonkey (iceape) version: the 
2.7.3 version is not an official one, it seems to be a debian maintainer 
patched something. From the changelog:

* New manually-made upstream release. (Upstream Seamonkey doesn't release
 from the ESR branch)






but tell me... why does Micro-soft Silverlight does not work on 
Seamonkey 8.x ?

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Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail

2012-03-21 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 21/03/2012 08:19, Philip Chee told the world:
 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:19:36 -0300, MCBastos wrote:
 
 Yes, Windows and Macs usually do have this font installed. So what? This
 is no longer a Windows-only world. For instance, AFAIK Android phones
 and tablets don't come with a Wingdings-compatible font. Same, I think,
 for Blackberries.
 
 But Androids and iOS do come with Emoji compatible fonts.
 
 Phil (insert emoji for laughing cat here)
 

Interesting, I had to look that up. From what I read, I understand that
emoji have been incorporated into Unicode 6. I didn't find out if the
ios and android implementations use Unicode or the older Japanese
encoding. BUT, even under the Japanese encoding, it should be possible
to unambigously encode emoji in messages/HTML by simply specifying the
correct code page, making it possible to use any font that includes the
emoji character range for rendering.

Not so with Wingdings, which don't have their own codepages -- they
mostly replace glyphs on the standard Western European codepages with
custom glyphs. The different versions of Wingdings each use the same
codepoint for different glyphs, even. The only way to get the correct
glyph is to select a specific font.

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

2012-03-21 Thread Kent Briggs

NoOp wrote:


Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter: cursor
that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click
'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'.


Yeah I did that for now. But the wait cursor has a legitimate purpose to 
show a page is still loading so that functionality is now gone. But at 
least the visible annoyance is gone while reading my newsgroups. I 
eagerly await the bug fix.

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

2012-03-21 Thread GerardJan

Kent Briggs wrote:

NoOp wrote:


Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter:
cursor
that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click
'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'.


Yeah I did that for now. But the wait cursor has a legitimate purpose to
show a page is still loading so that functionality is now gone. But at
least the visible annoyance is gone while reading my newsgroups. I
eagerly await the bug fix.


should I change it back to true?


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Re: Some web pages have no font anti-aliasing (Linux version)

2012-03-21 Thread NoOp
On 03/20/2012 11:01 PM, Kertesz Laszlo wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I observed that fonts on some web pages seem to lack anti-aliasing.
 Example:
 
 http://asoiaf.westeros.org/
 
 I use Debian and i tried both the version from the repos (2.7.3) and
 the official builds from the site, they all behave the same.
 Firefox/Iceweasel behaves the same though, so i suppose that the
 issue is down to the rendering engine. Other pages look fine with
 anti aliasing and all.
 
 Why is that? Other browsers (Chrome/Chromium, Opera) have no such
 issues (but Midori seems to behave just like Seamonkey though).
 

They all look pretty much the same to me using:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8

User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/11.0

Chromium 17.0.963.79 (Developer Build 125985 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10

Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.61

Epiphany: Web Browser 2.30.2

Perhaps you could post a webshot somewhere that points out the font
differences?
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Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen

2012-03-21 Thread David Wilkinson
I have the Acer W500 Windows tablet (which has both a touch screen and a docking 
keyboard/mouse). It came with Windows 7, but I installed the Windows 8 developer 
Preview and later the Consumer Preview on it.


In both DP and CP Windows 8 versions, in touchscreen mode the menus in FireFox 
and SeaMonkey do not work (I haven't tried Thunderbird). The menu drops down, 
but pressing an item does not work. It is as if the menu is transparent -- the 
press registers on the the window underneath the menu. This does not happen with 
other desktop applications that I have tried.


The menus work fine with the mouse. I don't know if this touchscreen problem 
occurred with Windows 7, because I installed Windows 8 as soon as I got the device.


Does anybody else see this (I found one other posting of this, also with the 
Acer W500, but there were no responses).


Is there something unusual about the way menus are implemented in the Mozilla 
products (on Windows)?


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Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail

2012-03-21 Thread NoOp
On 03/21/2012 04:19 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:19:36 -0300, MCBastos wrote:
 
 Yes, Windows and Macs usually do have this font installed. So what? This
 is no longer a Windows-only world. For instance, AFAIK Android phones
 and tablets don't come with a Wingdings-compatible font. Same, I think,
 for Blackberries.
 
 But Androids and iOS do come with Emoji compatible fonts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Emoji_in_the_Unicode_standard

 
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Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail

2012-03-21 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/20/12 11:09 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 3/20/12 10:18 PM, Mike C wrote:
 Is there a way to Use Wingdings in SM mail?
 
 There was an extensive discussion about Wingdings in Web pages, not so
 long ago.  The conclusion is that, since this is contrary to the HTML
 specifications, it is generally NOT allowed.  Only those special
 characters that are part of the Unicode standard can be represented in
 HTML.
 
 Since Wingdings are not supported by plain-text, ASCII-formatted E-mail,
 you would need to use HTML-formatted E-mail.  You would thus face the
 same restrictions imposed by the HTML specifications that apply to Web
 pages.
 
 See:
 http://www.unicode.org/
 http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/named-character-references.html
 (best viewed with JavaScript disabled before loading and with [View 
 Text Zoom  150%])
 http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/characters.html
 http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html
 

One thing to remember is that Wingdings, Digbats, and other such symbol
fonts were never intended for use with the Internet.  They were intended
for use in preparing hard-copy documents (e.g., via Word).

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Can't send e-mail

2012-03-21 Thread Mark Smith
I am running Windows 7 with SeaMonkey 2.8. I can browse the web and
receive e-mail. When I try to send e-mail, SeaMonkey tells me the
message has been sent. The message never gets to its address. I tried
re-installing SeaMonkey 2.7.2 and then 2.7  I still cannot send e-
mail.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread NoOp
On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's 
 working
 in IE with VLC;
 
 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/
 
 

Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.


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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread W3BNR
On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:
 On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's 
 working
 in IE with VLC;

 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/


 
 Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
 Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
 likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
 (http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
 directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.
 
 

Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread Rufus

W3BNR wrote:

On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/




Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.




Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.



It works for me using SM Mac version with Flip4Mac installed.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread W3BNR
On 3/21/2012 9:26 PM Rufus submitted the following:
 W3BNR wrote:
 On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:
 On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's
 working
 in IE with VLC;

 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/



 Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
 Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
 likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
 (http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
 directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.



 Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.

 
 It works for me using SM Mac version with Flip4Mac installed.
 

I was using Win XP.  Never thought to use my laptop to check.  I've got Linux on
that.  Oh, well, the launch is postponed again.  I'll check things out tomorrow
night.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread NoOp
On 03/21/2012 06:14 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:
 On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's 
 working
 in IE with VLC;

 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/


 
 Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
 Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
 likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
 (http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
 directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.
 
 
 
 Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.
 

As I mentioned, I think in my case it's a configuration issue (PEBKAC).
For example: the wmv on this site:
http://www.ifactorystream.eu/wmtest.html
Played fine in Chromium. But in FF, SM, and Opera I only got a black
window. I then reinstalled an mplayer package (again linux), reloaded FF
and SM, and now the video plays just fine in FF, SM, and Opera.

So, were I you I'd go looking for similar streams as you were viewing on
the NASA site and see if perhaps the issue is a plugin (installed or
lack thereof).


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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread PhillipJones

W3BNR wrote:

On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/




Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.




Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.


Not just SM 2.0.14, 2.11.1, and FF12 won't play it either.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread PhillipJones

Rufus wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/




Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.




Thanks for the confirmation. It would then appear to be a SM problem.



It works for me using SM Mac version with Flip4Mac installed.

I just tried and received an error message. see error message I posted 
previously.


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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread PhillipJones

NoOp wrote:

On 03/21/2012 06:14 PM, W3BNR wrote:

On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/




Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.




Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.



As I mentioned, I think in my case it's a configuration issue (PEBKAC).
For example: the wmv on this site:
http://www.ifactorystream.eu/wmtest.html
Played fine in Chromium. But in FF, SM, and Opera I only got a black
window. I then reinstalled an mplayer package (again linux), reloaded FF
and SM, and now the video plays just fine in FF, SM, and Opera.

So, were I you I'd go looking for similar streams as you were viewing on
the NASA site and see if perhaps the issue is a plugin (installed or
lack thereof).


This link iFactorystream works perfect. There is an issue with the 
server serving the material.


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Re: Can't send e-mail

2012-03-21 Thread Jay Garcia
On 21.03.2012 20:04, Mark Smith wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 I am running Windows 7 with SeaMonkey 2.8. I can browse the web and
 receive e-mail. When I try to send e-mail, SeaMonkey tells me the
 message has been sent. The message never gets to its address. I tried
 re-installing SeaMonkey 2.7.2 and then 2.7  I still cannot send e-
 mail.
 
 Mark Smith

Send one to yourself to see if you get it. Report back.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread Miles Fidelman

PhillipJones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/21/2012 06:14 PM, W3BNR wrote:

On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:
Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), 
but it's working

in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/




Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.




Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM problem.



As I mentioned, I think in my case it's a configuration issue (PEBKAC).
For example: the wmv on this site:
http://www.ifactorystream.eu/wmtest.html
Played fine in Chromium. But in FF, SM, and Opera I only got a black
window. I then reinstalled an mplayer package (again linux), reloaded FF
and SM, and now the video plays just fine in FF, SM, and Opera.

So, were I you I'd go looking for similar streams as you were viewing on
the NASA site and see if perhaps the issue is a plugin (installed or
lack thereof).


This link iFactorystream works perfect. There is an issue with the 
server serving the material.



On a Mac, running OS 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard)

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/, click through to 
http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644


SeaMonkey - Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 - FAILS

Safari - Version 5.1.4 (6534.54.16) - FAILS
Firefox 11.0 - asks to restart in 32-bit mode - FAILS (after a long time)
Chrome 17.0.963.83 - FAILS
probably has to do with being of type video/x-ms-asf

On the other hand, http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html 
(main NASA TV page)
SeaMonkey - video on main page plays, click through to ustream (flash) 
worked, click through to quicktime didn't

Firefox - same as SeaMonkey
Safari - http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html, ustream 
works, quicktime launches realplayer, doesn't play

Chrome - same
note: I'm pretty sure this has to do with quicktime missing the right 
codec on a Mac


Miles Fidelman





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Robbie Williamson

2012-03-21 Thread gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-21 Thread Rufus

PhillipJones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/




Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or
Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most
likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL
(http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644)
directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine.




Thanks for the confirmation. It would then appear to be a SM problem.



It works for me using SM Mac version with Flip4Mac installed.


I just tried and received an error message. see error message I posted
previously.



I tried just now and got a Microsoft Media Server error, and a message 
to contact the website administrator...it did work for me before.  Maybe 
something is up at the site itself?


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