Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Glamsmash Productions
I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

Please help me figure this out, thanks!
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How do I convert database?

2012-04-22 Thread Yaakov Nahum Ben-Avraham - Яаков Нахум Бен-Аврахам - יעקב נחום בן אברהם

I am using SeaMonkey 1.1.13 on a Linux 2.6.27.7
kernel and Slackware 12.2 distribution.

I would like to convert my database, including the
Address Book and other Mail info, Bookmarks, etc.
to SeaMonkey 2.1b3 on a Linux 2.6.37.6 kernel
and Slackware 13.37 distribution.

How do I go about doing this in a fail-safe manner?

- Yaakov

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Glamsmash Productions wrote:

 I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
 editor)

Is this a new web site?  The code underneath looks very much 1990s. New 
work should be DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Strict, instead of Transitional. Are you 
transitioning from older legacy pages?

You might want to consider updating by switching to something more modern 
than the ancient Composer. AFAIK, it hasn't been worked on for a long 
time. Perhaps you could at least use the standalone fork called KompoZer.

http://www.kompozer.net/

 and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
 However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables I
 created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have no
 idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like the
 WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

I don't understand what you mean when you say smashed together or 
wrong size. Do you have a better description? (I don't use Windows, so 
no Internet Explorer here.) You may mean that there is no space between 
the words and the pictures. If so, you need padding in the table cells.

Tables for layout concept is also quite old. These days we use divs 
to create column and layout.

 Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com
 
 and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
 http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or
 http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

http://www.glamsmash.com/services.html 

 Please help me figure this out, thanks!

From the Home page:
based [in] New York City
who's [whose] mission is to conceptualize
In house [Inhouse] services 

..probably others...

You may check your pages for errors here:

http://validator.w3.org/ and 
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

Questions of this nature should be put to a web-authoring newsgroup, such 
as alt.html

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Glamsmash Productions wrote:


I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor)


Is this a new web site?  The code underneath looks very much 1990s. New
work should be DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Strict, instead of Transitional. Are you
transitioning from older legacy pages?


There are, sadly, still valid reasons for using HTML 4.01 Transitional.
Consider the following report :


I discovered today that I need to use the
S element in what was, until now, an HTML 4.01 Strict
document.  The reason : CSS text-decoration allows only
one value, and thus a stretch of text cannot be both struck-
through (as per MSS) and underlined (used to indicate the
stretch of text to which a dynamically-displayed lexicographic
note applies).


HTML 4.01 Strict does not allow S and hence an element in
HTML 4.01 Strict cannot be both struck-through and underlined.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Philip TAYLOR wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Glamsmash Productions wrote:
 I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
 editor)

 Is this a new web site?  The code underneath looks very much 1990s. New
 work should be DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Strict, instead of Transitional. Are
 you transitioning from older legacy pages?
 
 There are, sadly, still valid reasons for using HTML 4.01 Transitional.
 Consider the following report :
 
 I discovered today that I need to use the S element in what was,
 until now, an HTML 4.01 Strict document.  The reason : CSS
 text-decoration allows only one value, and thus a stretch of text
 cannot be both struck- through (as per MSS) and underlined (used to
 indicate the stretch of text to which a dynamically-displayed
 lexicographic note applies).
 
 HTML 4.01 Strict does not allow S and hence an element in HTML 4.01
 Strict cannot be both struck-through and underlined.

s is deprecated. One should use strike ... /strike instead. This 
works, but of course u is deprecated as well.

pText is strikeustruck-through and underlined/u/strike./p

Of course, this thread isn't a SeaMonkey problem, but one of web design.

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Re: How do I convert database?

2012-04-22 Thread A Williams
Yaakov Nahum Ben-Avraham - Яаков Нахум Бен-Аврахам - יעקב נחום בן אברהם 
wrote:

I am using SeaMonkey 1.1.13 on a Linux 2.6.27.7
kernel and Slackware 12.2 distribution.

I would like to convert my database, including the
Address Book and other Mail info, Bookmarks, etc.
to SeaMonkey 2.1b3 on a Linux 2.6.37.6 kernel
and Slackware 13.37 distribution.

How do I go about doing this in a fail-safe manner?

- Yaakov



Kernel levels are irrelevant for this operation, Slackware levels are 
also meaningless for those of us who do not use Slackware.


I believe the conversion is done automatically when you start the newer 
Seamonkey, although I would make some preparations first:

- Clear your Cache
- take a backup of your $home/.mozilla directory (this is the 
fail-safe part).

- Start the new Seamonkey.

I seem to remember reading that the newest versions of Seamonkey no 
longer contain the code to migrate 1.x levels, but your Seamonkey level 
is old enough for that not to be a problem.

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Re: Only check for new mail after opening Mail Newsgroups

2012-04-22 Thread Daniel

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Kevin L. Hill wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:45:16 -0400, BIll Spikowski wrote:


Snip


The situation I was inquiring about was the only glitch in my grand
plan, which happened when I leave a SM browser window open at my
office to download some huge file overnight. Now I know this will be
OK as long as I exit all of SM first, then reopen only a browser
window. Also, when a hidden SM process is stuck running, that messes
my system up because email continues to download. But overall, I
couldn't be happier with SM mail and the flexibility it provides me,
and the great help that's available in this newsgroup!




Bill, if you are about to leave your SM Browser, only, up overnight for 
your big file download, a couple of minutes after you close SM 
completely, do a three finger salute, Ctrl-Alt-Del) to see if SM is 
still running. If so, end task on it.


Then start your Browser-only SM for the overnight session.

HTH

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Picky-Picky (was:- Re: Message Appearance)

2012-04-22 Thread Daniel


Snip


  at
least a decade or more.


Is that a tautology??


(Follow-up set to mozilla.general

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Re: How do I convert database?

2012-04-22 Thread Daniel

A Williams wrote:

Yaakov Nahum Ben-Avraham - Яаков Нахум Бен-Аврахам - יעקב נחום בן אברהם
wrote:

I am using SeaMonkey 1.1.13 on a Linux 2.6.27.7
kernel and Slackware 12.2 distribution.

I would like to convert my database, including the
Address Book and other Mail info, Bookmarks, etc.
to SeaMonkey 2.1b3 on a Linux 2.6.37.6 kernel
and Slackware 13.37 distribution.

How do I go about doing this in a fail-safe manner?

- Yaakov



Kernel levels are irrelevant for this operation, Slackware levels are
also meaningless for those of us who do not use Slackware.

I believe the conversion is done automatically when you start the newer
Seamonkey, although I would make some preparations first:
- Clear your Cache
- take a backup of your $home/.mozilla directory (this is the
fail-safe part).
- Start the new Seamonkey.

I seem to remember reading that the newest versions of Seamonkey no
longer contain the code to migrate 1.x levels, but your Seamonkey level
is old enough for that not to be a problem.


Yes, when I read the OP, I was wondering why Yaakov was just going to 
SM2.1b3 and why to a b3 level at all?? Why not to SM2.1 final, and then 
update through to SM2.8 or the soon to be released SM2.9??


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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-22 Thread Rick Merrill

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 21/04/2012 19:35, Rick Merrill told the world:



Yes but - it would be nice to make it automatic.  I think the eml is
from a Microsoft standard - it should be fixable somewhere inside, say,
Windows XP.



Just an addendum to my previous post:

You might be thinking of .msg, the format Office Outlook uses. .MSG is
based on a Microsoft format called COM stuctured storage OLE2 compound
documents

The .eml format (used, among others, by Outlook Express) is supposed to
be RFC822-based. At least, the Mozilla version is.



Thanks for the tour de force - I should try .msg!


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Re: How do I convert database?

2012-04-22 Thread A Williams

Daniel wrote:

A Williams wrote:

Yaakov Nahum Ben-Avraham - Яаков Нахум Бен-Аврахам - יעקב נחום בן אברהם
wrote:

I am using SeaMonkey 1.1.13 on a Linux 2.6.27.7
kernel and Slackware 12.2 distribution.

I would like to convert my database, including the
Address Book and other Mail info, Bookmarks, etc.
to SeaMonkey 2.1b3 on a Linux 2.6.37.6 kernel
and Slackware 13.37 distribution.

How do I go about doing this in a fail-safe manner?

- Yaakov



Kernel levels are irrelevant for this operation, Slackware levels are
also meaningless for those of us who do not use Slackware.

I believe the conversion is done automatically when you start the newer
Seamonkey, although I would make some preparations first:
- Clear your Cache
- take a backup of your $home/.mozilla directory (this is the
fail-safe part).
- Start the new Seamonkey.

I seem to remember reading that the newest versions of Seamonkey no
longer contain the code to migrate 1.x levels, but your Seamonkey level
is old enough for that not to be a problem.


Yes, when I read the OP, I was wondering why Yaakov was just going to
SM2.1b3 and why to a b3 level at all?? Why not to SM2.1 final, and then
update through to SM2.8 or the soon to be released SM2.9??




I tried to use Slackware for a while in the mid 90's and seem to 
remember that updating software was . . . pretty fraught.  Then again, 
configuring it to do what I wanted was pretty fraught as well so I 
checked out Red Hat and SuSE and then moved on.
Going back to the point, Slackware 13.37 was released a year ago this 
week, my guess would be that it came with that level of Seamonkey.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/21/12 11:00 PM, Glamsmash Productions wrote:
 I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
 editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
 However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
 I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
 no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
 the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.
 
 Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com
 
 and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
 http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.
 
 Please help me figure this out, thanks!

Try posting your question to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
newsgroup on a non-Mozilla newsgroup server.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Ed Mullen

Glamsmash Productions wrote:

I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

Please help me figure this out, thanks!


http://www.granneman.com/webdev/coding/css/centertables/

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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-22 Thread Ray_Net

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/04/2012 00:07:

Ray_Net wrote:


WLS wrote, On 21/04/2012 19:13:


What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?

When i save it with the .txt extension double-clicking on it - NOTEPAD
opens it showing
Subject: the subject
From:the from address
Date:the date sent
To:the to address
MAIL TEXT


When I saved your message as .eml and opened it with Notepad, I saw 
the full headers and everything, as if I had hit CTRL-U.



BUT !!!

When i save it with the .eml extension, if i double-click on it - SM
opens it showing
Subject: missing or blank
From:missing or blank
Date:missing or blank
To:missing or blank
MAIL TEXT

Is this another unresolved SM bug ?


When I opened exactly the same file with SeaMonkey, everything was 
there, properly formatted, no omissions or corruptions. So if it's a 
bug, it's peculiar to your installation (I'm using 2.8 as well).



ok, i have re-tested and this is the new complain:
When i save it with the .txt extension double-clicking on it - NOTEPAD 
opens it showing

Subject: the subject
From:the from adress
Date:the date sent
To:the to adress
MAIL TEXT

BUT !!!

When i CHANGE the .txt extension to the .eml extension, if i 
double-click on it - SM opens it showing

Subject: missing or blank
From:missing or blank
Date:missing or blank
To:missing or blank
MAIL TEXT

So, SM cannot show the saved headers which are in the .txt file.
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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Philip TAYLOR



David E. Ross wrote:


Try posting your question to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
newsgroup on a non-Mozilla newsgroup server.


Alternatively, if the code is exactly as emitted from Seamonkey
Composer, file a bug report that, in certain circumstances, the
composer can emit invalid code :

 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.glamsmash.com/

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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-22 Thread Ray_Net

Rick Merrill wrote, On 22/04/2012 13:37:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 21/04/2012 19:35, Rick Merrill told the world:



Yes but - it would be nice to make it automatic.  I think the 
eml is

from a Microsoft standard - it should be fixable somewhere inside, say,
Windows XP.



Just an addendum to my previous post:

You might be thinking of .msg, the format Office Outlook uses. .MSG is
based on a Microsoft format called COM stuctured storage OLE2 compound
documents

The .eml format (used, among others, by Outlook Express) is supposed to
be RFC822-based. At least, the Mozilla version is.



Thanks for the tour de force - I should try .msg!



SM save as .msg or save as .eml gives the same result.
SM save as .txt give a different result, the header are the simplified 
one, and changing the extension as .eml permit by a double-click to open 
in SM BUT the headers is not shown.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

2012-04-22 Thread Michael Gordon

Glamsmash Productions wrote:

I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

Please help me figure this out, thanks!


The first thing you will want to do is make your web document compatible 
for web standards, and then for Internet Explorer.  Within your tables 
declarations you have used a CSS element called: margin-right: auto; and 
margin-left: auto;  IE ignores those elements if the DOCTYPE is not 
compatible.


Your DOCTYPE: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 
Transitional//EN


Change your DOCTYPE to: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 
Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
Notice the quotes after the EN and the complete doctype.  The entire 
doctype should be on a single line with only one blank space between the 
quots of EN and http://


You will need to modify the doctype in a text editor and set Komposer 
(Composer) to not change the HTML coding when opening a web document.


Good luck,

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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-22 Thread WLS
On 04/21/2012 05:26 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 WLS wrote, On 21/04/2012 19:13:
 Rick Merrill wrote:
 When ever I File  Save As  File
 the default extension is .eml but I would
 like it to be .txt (as I don't use Outlook...)


 Thx,


 What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?
 When i save it with the .txt extension double-clicking on it - NOTEPAD
 opens it showing
 Subject: the subject
 From:the from adress
 Date:the date sent
 To:the to adress
 MAIL TEXT
 
 BUT !!!
 
 When i save it with the .eml extension, if i double-click on it - SM
 opens it showing
 Subject: missing or blank
 From:missing or blank
 Date:missing or blank
 To:missing or blank
 MAIL TEXT
 
 Is this another unresolved SM bug ?

When I save it with the .eml extension, and select SeaMonkey mail from
one of the 3 mail programs on my system, it just opens the browser.

If I change the pref to open Mail and Newsgroups, it opens Mail and
Newsgroups, and doesn't display the message. Is that an unresolved SM
bug or, bug of the Linux build?

Thunderbird and KMail display the message properly, as does my text
editor program.

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seamonkey vs. PDFs (macintosh)

2012-04-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
I wonder if others are experiencing similar problems, or have ideas on 
how to resolve this:


I'm running SM 2.8 on a Macintosh (OSX 10.6.8, Snow Leopard), and more 
precisely:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) 
Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8


For a long time (multiple releases), PDFs have never presented inside 
SeaMonkey - despite installing Adobe's standard collection of plug-ins.  
Instead, SeaMonkey always treated PDFs by opening them in a helper 
application - in my case, set to Apple's Preview.


Since the last Adobe updater, SeaMonkey seems to try to open PDFs inside 
a browser window, but they don't actually open - I just get a blank 
white page.  It doesn't seem to matter how I set the preferences for 
helper applications - the default is listed as Adobe Reader, the other 
choices are Preview and Adobe NPAPI plug-in.  No matter what the 
setting, SeaMonkey tries to open the file in a browser window, and fails 
- I can't seem to get it to revert to it's previous behavior of giving a 
choice to save or open in Preview.


Note that the plug-in seems to work fine in Safari, but also fails in 
Firefox.


Any thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,

Miles Fidelman



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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-22 Thread Jay Garcia
On 22.04.2012 16:32, Ray_Net wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 So, SM cannot show the saved headers which are in the .txt file.

In SM 2.8 I show exactly the same headers no matter how saved.

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Re: seamonkey vs. PDFs (macintosh) - RESOLVED

2012-04-22 Thread Miles Fidelman

A little googling reveals that:

- this is a common problem - apparently the latest Adobe reader is 
simply incompatible with the latest SeaMonkey or Firefox


There are two suggested work-arounds:

- set SeaMonkey/Firefox to open in 32-bit mode - this DOESN'T work for 
me, SeaMonkey promptly and repeatedly crashes when trying to open a PDF


- disable the Adobe NPAPI plug-in (via add-on manager) - SeaMonkey then 
automatically opens preview after loading a PDF - works fine


Sigh...

Miles

Miles Fidelman wrote:
I wonder if others are experiencing similar problems, or have ideas on 
how to resolve this:


I'm running SM 2.8 on a Macintosh (OSX 10.6.8, Snow Leopard), and more 
precisely:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; 
rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8


For a long time (multiple releases), PDFs have never presented inside 
SeaMonkey - despite installing Adobe's standard collection of 
plug-ins.  Instead, SeaMonkey always treated PDFs by opening them in a 
helper application - in my case, set to Apple's Preview.


Since the last Adobe updater, SeaMonkey seems to try to open PDFs 
inside a browser window, but they don't actually open - I just get a 
blank white page.  It doesn't seem to matter how I set the preferences 
for helper applications - the default is listed as Adobe Reader, the 
other choices are Preview and Adobe NPAPI plug-in.  No matter what the 
setting, SeaMonkey tries to open the file in a browser window, and 
fails - I can't seem to get it to revert to it's previous behavior of 
giving a choice to save or open in Preview.




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Re: seamonkey vs. PDFs (macintosh) - RESOLVED

2012-04-22 Thread Rufus
I guess I never noticed this because I immediately went back to Reader 
9.x due to not liking the interface changes in Reader 10...I've read 
that a lot of people don't - the menu options in particular.


I guess enough people did that to get Adobe's attention - I recall 
recently doing an update for my 9.x installs.


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Miles Fidelman wrote:

A little googling reveals that:

- this is a common problem - apparently the latest Adobe reader is
simply incompatible with the latest SeaMonkey or Firefox

There are two suggested work-arounds:

- set SeaMonkey/Firefox to open in 32-bit mode - this DOESN'T work for
me, SeaMonkey promptly and repeatedly crashes when trying to open a PDF

- disable the Adobe NPAPI plug-in (via add-on manager) - SeaMonkey then
automatically opens preview after loading a PDF - works fine

Sigh...

Miles

Miles Fidelman wrote:

I wonder if others are experiencing similar problems, or have ideas on
how to resolve this:

I'm running SM 2.8 on a Macintosh (OSX 10.6.8, Snow Leopard), and more
precisely:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6;
rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8

For a long time (multiple releases), PDFs have never presented inside
SeaMonkey - despite installing Adobe's standard collection of
plug-ins. Instead, SeaMonkey always treated PDFs by opening them in a
helper application - in my case, set to Apple's Preview.

Since the last Adobe updater, SeaMonkey seems to try to open PDFs
inside a browser window, but they don't actually open - I just get a
blank white page. It doesn't seem to matter how I set the preferences
for helper applications - the default is listed as Adobe Reader, the
other choices are Preview and Adobe NPAPI plug-in. No matter what the
setting, SeaMonkey tries to open the file in a browser window, and
fails - I can't seem to get it to revert to it's previous behavior of
giving a choice to save or open in Preview.




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Re: send mail causes abort - Fixed

2012-04-22 Thread NoOp
On 04/18/2012 09:48 AM, A Williams wrote:
...
 In the last 10 days I have had one machine where the root partition was 
 damaged, files missing in /bin, /etc and somewhere else as well.  Only 
 that partition was affected.  /usr, /home, /var, /boot were all ok. 
 Still an absolute pain to recover from.  The cause is still unknown but 
 it feels as though I was cracked.
 
 Then the power supply went on my other main machine.  Cause unknown but 
 totally unrelated to the first problem of course.
 
 Finally I have the time to go back to this problem.  That last link did 
 the job - the main Evergreen repository still has the old Seamonkey but 
 the Test one has the new Seamonkey and it works.  Of course it had 
 updates to another 60-odd packages but none of them has toasted this 
 machine :-)
 
 Thank you, you may not know SuSE but you still provided all the help I 
 could possibly have asked for.  Now I'll post another problem . . .

You are most welcome. I'll have to load up openSuSE in a virtual machine
just to see how it goes. Glad you got it sorted out.

Gary

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