Re: Removal from mailing list

2012-05-26 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 
Larry Werner wrote:

> Please remove my address from your recipient's list.
> 
> Thank you.

You need to do that yourself, and the details are in every email you 
receive.

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Removal from mailing list

2012-05-26 Thread Larry Werner 

Please remove my address from your recipient's list.

Thank you.
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Re: #&$*@ing random Master Password requests...

2012-05-26 Thread Rich Gray 

Rufus wrote:



That was what I've been thinking.  Mac users?..anybody?..else?..


MacBook Pro, OS X 10.6.8
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120522 
Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10


Always prompted for master password at startup...

Sorry I can't be much help...

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Re: Seamonkey excessive memory usage, et al

2012-05-26 Thread chicagofan 

Joe Rotello wrote:
Those having rather recent or "sudden" extreme memory usage in Seamonkey, may want to try this possibility that HAS 
lessened or solved Firefox's similar memory problems.


It may work on SM as well, as it's not adjusting part of the browser itself, but instead adjusting Java via the Java 
Plug-In that most all browsers use, especially FF and SM.




<< Although the memory leak problem appears to have begun with the release of Firefox 12, it is actually not Firefox 
that is causing the problem. The problem is your friend and mine, Sun Java, whose concept of a "next-generation plug 
in" appears to be lag your computer to all hell.


Go to your control panel, double click Java, and review your settings.

There is an option [called] "Enable the next-generation java plug-in". Make 
sure you uncheck that.

This fixed my Firefox memory problem (similar to those problems posted) 
immediately.

You must disable the plug in through Java, it will override Firefox settings.
I would like to end this by saying I have always hated Java, and regret that it is 
2012 and that it is still in use. >>

*Does this Java related "fix" ruin or turn off Java usage in Firefox 12, or does it just "disconnect" a probably 
faulty part of Java ? >>

*

*Answer back states:
*

Hi, disabling this option has had no effect on my web browsing experience, 
other than

1.) halving the memory usage by firefox.exe
2.) prevent firefox.exe process from still running after I have closed all 
firefox windows and tabs



Again, this "recommended fix" may also assist SM browser users, and the fix may not adversely affect those of us that 
want or need Java to work in our browsers.


Joe


I'm using SM 2.8... what version of Java or plug in would work with it, and what's the best way to get it installed?
I can't use the tools at BBR without Java which I do not have in Win7.


When I try to download it there, it tells me "Your browser does not support 
Java"... end of the line.
bj



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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-26 Thread Paul 

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/24/2012 07:28 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/22/2012 10:17 AM:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes. You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the
recipient's phone number something like:

1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover
the proper format.

The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.



hmmm just tested this from my laptop to my att cell phone...

Your message was rejected by mx.cingularme.com for the following 
reason:


Invalid recipient: <1234567...@cingularme.com>

The following recipients did not receive this message:

<1234567...@text.att.net>






Umm, you should replace "1234567890" with your cell phone's number.  :-D



well gee... i did, but wasn't quite willing to post it in here... ;-)


Google
how to txt att.net
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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-26 Thread sean nathan 

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/24/2012 07:28 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/22/2012 10:17 AM:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes. You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the
recipient's phone number something like:

1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover
the proper format.

The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.



hmmm just tested this from my laptop to my att cell phone...


Your message was rejected by mx.cingularme.com for the following reason:

Invalid recipient: <1234567...@cingularme.com>

The following recipients did not receive this message:

<1234567...@text.att.net>






Umm, you should replace "1234567890" with your cell phone's number.  :-D



well gee... i did, but wasn't quite willing to post it in here... ;-)

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Re: Seamonkey excessive memory usage, et al

2012-05-26 Thread Lewis Rosenthal 
Hi...

On 05/26/12 07:24 am, Joe Rotello thus wrote :
> Those having rather recent or "sudden" extreme memory usage in
> Seamonkey, may want to try this possibility that HAS lessened or solved
> Firefox's similar memory problems.
> 
> It may work on SM as well, as it's not adjusting part of the browser
> itself, but instead adjusting Java via the Java Plug-In that most all
> browsers use, especially FF and SM.
> 

I *think* this only applies to Windows systems. It surely does not apply
to OS/2, as we currently do not support Java in the browser (though work
is being done on IcedTea, to utilize OpenJDK, which we do have). I
haven't seen such an option on any of the Linux systems I run, either.



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Re: Can't copy / paste HTML with SM2.12 nightly (Win 7)

2012-05-26 Thread Philip Chee 
On 26/05/2012 21:47, dominique wrote:
> Strange thing happening to my system:
> 
> I can't copy / paste HTML formatted text. All the HTML formatting seems 
> lost in the operation.
> My laptop runs Win7 Enterprise and I don't recall any change that could 
> have triggered this behavior...
> 
> Any hint ?
> 
> Dom,

What's the regression range? It might be fallout from:
Bug 749527 - When trying to 'copy' a picture directly from Firefox into
a windows live chat box, it copys the image location (link) instead of
the image.

Also see SeaMonkey Bug 752505 - Copy Image broken on Nightly

Phil

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Re: SM 2.10 beta 64 bit

2012-05-26 Thread NoOp 
On 05/23/2012 02:32 PM, sean nathan wrote:
> currently running:
> 
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120511 
>> Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10
> 
> in a fresh new install of peppermintOS2 64 bit linux...
> 
> most things working splendidly
> 
> but ctrl+ isn't affecting the font sizing like it used to do...
> 
> thoughts?
> 


Works for me w/2.10b2:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0)
Gecko/20120522 Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10


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Re: #&$*@ing random Master Password requests...

2012-05-26 Thread GerardJan 

PhillipJones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/25/2012 06:48 PM, Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/25/2012 02:56 PM, Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

This thread (mine from 2009) might be of interest:




Try the first recommendation by Ricardo (setting email query
times). And
as a swag: set "mail.biff.on_new_window" to false.



Well...that's why I asked the question about checking in the
background
- I have (and have always had) my Mail pref set to check for new mail
manually; i.e., "check for new messages every X minutes" is
unchecked,
as is "check for new messages at startup". It's interesting that my
Mail account is a POP3 account, though. If this bug does apply,
then SM
is also ignoring my pref setting(s) in this regard as well.

I just checked about: config, and "mail.biff.on_new_window" *is*
set to
false...now what?..



Punt? Perhaps find another Mac user with the same system& compare?
Don't know what else to suggest.




Yeah...I'm out of airspeed and ideas myself. Everything seems "normal"
on the surface. And slightly under it.

FWIW, the same thing is happening on all *four* of my
systems/installs -
an Intel Core 2 Duo iMac, a PPC iMac, an Intel Core 2 Macbook Pro, and
an Intel i7 Mac Mini.



Sounds like a Mac issue :-)

Seriously, it's probably an issue with the Mac build as I've not seen
this for several years on linux or Windows builds.




That was what I've been thinking. Mac users?..anybody?..else?..


On pictures I just sent if you choose security on you will always be
required enter the password. What you do to make it security when first
asked you give user name and Password then when asked have SeaMonkey save.


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Re: #&$*@ing random Master Password requests...

2012-05-26 Thread PhillipJones 

Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/25/2012 06:48 PM, Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/25/2012 02:56 PM, Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

This thread (mine from 2009) might be of interest:



Try the first recommendation by Ricardo (setting email query
times). And
as a swag: set "mail.biff.on_new_window" to false.



Well...that's why I asked the question about checking in the
background
- I have (and have always had) my Mail pref set to check for new mail
manually; i.e., "check for new messages every X minutes" is unchecked,
as is "check for new messages at startup". It's interesting that my
Mail account is a POP3 account, though. If this bug does apply,
then SM
is also ignoring my pref setting(s) in this regard as well.

I just checked about: config, and "mail.biff.on_new_window" *is*
set to
false...now what?..



Punt? Perhaps find another Mac user with the same system& compare?
Don't know what else to suggest.




Yeah...I'm out of airspeed and ideas myself. Everything seems "normal"
on the surface. And slightly under it.

FWIW, the same thing is happening on all *four* of my systems/installs -
an Intel Core 2 Duo iMac, a PPC iMac, an Intel Core 2 Macbook Pro, and
an Intel i7 Mac Mini.



Sounds like a Mac issue :-)

Seriously, it's probably an issue with the Mac build as I've not seen
this for several years on linux or Windows builds.




That was what I've been thinking. Mac users?..anybody?..else?..

On pictures I just sent if you choose security on you will always be 
required enter the password. What you do to make it security when first 
asked you give user name and Password then when asked have SeaMonkey save.


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Re: Slow opening of SeaMonkey/ Similar to problem in Thunderbird/FF

2012-05-26 Thread Ed Mullen 

GerardJan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

nr wrote:

Would you please provide the full path for the preference.js file? I
can't find mine.

Thanks.

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:

In one of the other groups Thunderbird of Firefox support. There was
mention of a problem of slow, slow opening at the beginning.

I noticed that SeaMonkey had the same problem. often taking as long
as a
minute to open.

There was mention of opening the preference.js file and looking for
some
lines with LDAP and nonascii in it and removing all but the first three
items. Someone can chime in with the desired lines.

Anyway sounded like problem I was having with SeaMonkey. Low and behold
I had from line 66 to 203 were repetions of of these three items.

I removed all but the first three items and SeaMonkey come up almost
instantly.

Sounds like That SeaMonkey is bit with the same bug as TB/FF.
Supposedly
the problem is fixed in the latest version of TB/FF (1.5.0.8) and
hopefully they used the same code in SeaMonkey 1.6 which I just
downloaded when it came out.
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http://mozilla.edmullen.net/moz_profile.html


mozilla.edmullen.net could not be found. Please check the name and try
again.


Wow!  That's a REALLY old link.  I haven't used sub-domains on my site 
for many years.


http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_profile.php



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Re: Slow opening of SeaMonkey/ Similar to problem in Thunderbird/FF

2012-05-26 Thread GerardJan 

Ed Mullen wrote:

nr wrote:

Would you please provide the full path for the preference.js file?  I
can't find mine.

Thanks.

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:

In one of the other groups Thunderbird of Firefox support. There was
mention of a problem of slow, slow opening at the beginning.

I noticed that SeaMonkey had the same problem. often taking as long as a
minute to open.

There was mention of opening the preference.js file and looking for some
lines with LDAP and nonascii in it and removing all but the first three
items. Someone can chime in with the desired lines.

Anyway sounded like problem I was having with SeaMonkey. Low and behold
I had from line 66 to 203 were repetions of of these three items.

I removed all but the first three items and SeaMonkey come up almost
instantly.

Sounds like That SeaMonkey is bit with the same bug as TB/FF. Supposedly
the problem is fixed in the latest version of TB/FF (1.5.0.8) and
hopefully they used the same code in SeaMonkey 1.6 which I just
downloaded when it came out.
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If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!mailto:pjo...@kimbanet.com

http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm





http://mozilla.edmullen.net/moz_profile.html

mozilla.edmullen.net could not be found. Please check the name and try 
again.




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Re: HTML5 video playback

2012-05-26 Thread Cruz, Jaime 

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I noticed that the Firefox playback window has a "Fullscreen" button
that is missing from the Seamonkey playback window. In order to get
fullscreen playback in Seamonkey, you have to right click on the video
and select "Fullscreen" from the pop-up menu. That is far less
user-friendly and I'm wondering why the difference if they use the same
rendering engine?


Obviously because this is a question of UI, not back-end. The back-end
(including the rendering engine) is shared, the UI is not.

I could imagine that this is because we still don't have support for DOM
full-screen, which is covered by the following bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701714

As you can see, there's already been done some work on that, but
unfortunately it depends on another bug which has stalled.



I'll admit I don't quite understand ALL of that but... thanks.


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Can't copy / paste HTML with SM2.12 nightly (Win 7)

2012-05-26 Thread dominique 

Strange thing happening to my system:

I can't copy / paste HTML formatted text. All the HTML formatting seems 
lost in the operation.
My laptop runs Win7 Enterprise and I don't recall any change that could 
have triggered this behavior...


Any hint ?

Dom,
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Re: Seamonkey excessive memory usage, et al

2012-05-26 Thread Joe Rotello 
Those having rather recent or "sudden" extreme memory usage in 
Seamonkey, may want to try this possibility that HAS lessened or solved 
Firefox's similar memory problems.


It may work on SM as well, as it's not adjusting part of the browser 
itself, but instead adjusting Java via the Java Plug-In that most all 
browsers use, especially FF and SM.




<< Although the memory leak problem appears to have begun with the 
release of Firefox 12, it is actually not Firefox that is causing the 
problem. The problem is your friend and mine, Sun Java, whose concept of 
a "next-generation plug in" appears to be lag your computer to all hell.


Go to your control panel, double click Java, and review your settings.

There is an option [called] "Enable the next-generation java plug-in". 
Make sure you uncheck that.


This fixed my Firefox memory problem (similar to those problems posted) 
immediately.


You must disable the plug in through Java, it will override Firefox 
settings.
I would like to end this by saying I have always hated Java, and regret 
that it is 2012 and that it is still in use. >>


*Does this Java related "fix" ruin or turn off Java usage in Firefox 12, 
or does it just "disconnect" a probably faulty part of Java ? >>

*

*Answer back states:
*

Hi, disabling this option has had no effect on my web browsing 
experience, other than


1.) halving the memory usage by firefox.exe
2.) prevent firefox.exe process from still running after I have closed 
all firefox windows and tabs




Again, this "recommended fix" may also assist SM browser users, and the 
fix may not adversely affect those of us that want or need Java to work 
in our browsers.


Joe


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Re: HTML5 video playback

2012-05-26 Thread Jens Hatlak 

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I noticed that the Firefox playback window has a "Fullscreen" button
that is missing from the Seamonkey playback window.  In order to get
fullscreen playback in Seamonkey, you have to right click on the video
and select "Fullscreen" from the pop-up menu.  That is far less
user-friendly and I'm wondering why the difference if they use the same
rendering engine?


Obviously because this is a question of UI, not back-end. The back-end 
(including the rendering engine) is shared, the UI is not.


I could imagine that this is because we still don't have support for DOM 
full-screen, which is covered by the following bug:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701714

As you can see, there's already been done some work on that, but 
unfortunately it depends on another bug which has stalled.


HTH

Jens

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