Re: SM 2.10.1 doesn't want to run IPv6
NoOp wrote: On 07/02/2012 12:19 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I've been running SM 2.9.1 on a 64 bit Linux system (Fedora 17) which lacks external IPv4 connection. It's been running fine. Are you stating that your Fedora 17 has no IPv4? Odd mine does. What does that have to do with this problem? You have a network connection which supports IPv4 to the external world, mine currently only has IPv4 to machines inside the firewall. Since 2.9.1 worked, and still does after downgrade, I'm assuming that the issue with the change in behavior is caused by the change in software. Today I tried to install on a system and it just goes away without messages or warning. What does? SM 2.10.1? Or IPv6? Seamonkey. Process terminates, nothing in any log, nothing screen, tried the download contributed version, tried the Fedora version from updates-testing, same behavior. Exit status was zero (no error). I suspect virtually no one is running on IPv6 Linux and it's a contributed build so I won't bother to report it on bugzilla, just noting this in case it's useful. https://ipv6.google.com/ Works for me. $ traceroute6 -n ipv6.google.com traceroute to ipv6.l.google.com (2001:4860:4001:803::1014) from 2001:0:53aa:64c:c58:6b5b:ba1b:a8ee, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets 1 2001:470:0:1e1::2 539.081 ms 13.924 ms 14.015 ms 2 2001:470:0:1e1::1 190.978 ms 22.796 ms 14.014 ms $ ping6 ipv6.google.com PING ipv6.google.com(nuq04s07-in-x10.1e100.net) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from nuq04s07-in-x10.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=378 ms 64 bytes from nuq04s07-in-x10.1e100.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=15.8 ms 64 bytes from nuq04s07-in-x10.1e100.net: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=16.4 ms ^C64 bytes from nuq04s07-in-x10.1e100.net: icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=16.5 ms I'm running teredo. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120630 Firefox/14.0 SeaMonkey/2.11 As noted in the subject, this report is about 2.10.1, the current shipping version. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.10.1 continues crashing
Klaus Weber wrote: Windows XP For several weeks I realize that seamonkey crashes very often never asking for a crash report. Sometimes it happens when I change an address in the address book or when I want to send an e-mail often also at other times. What could be the reason? My mail folders are meanwhile quite big. Could that be a reason? Thanks for any advice. Was 2.9.1 stable? I doubt that large mail folders are an issue, I have 2.10.1 on 32 bit Linux, and my mail folders are 1171276kB today, this profile has been in use since 1.0.6 or so. Don't run Windows other than in a VM to test IE behavior on websites, can't help there. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
Every time I delete something from my inbox I get the following. This just started. Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
On 07/03/2012 12:46 PM, Mike C wrote: Every time I delete something from my inbox I get the following. This just started. Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? I would click the Yes button, and compact my folders, to save disk space, because it appears SeaMonkey is telling you that you are reaching your limit. -- Thunderbird (16.0a1) Daily | openSUSE 12.1 | KDE 4.8.4 Practice Safe Computing. Create user accounts for your OS. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
WLS wrote: On 07/03/2012 12:46 PM, Mike C wrote: Every time I delete something from my inbox I get the following. This just started. Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? I would click the Yes button, and compact my folders, to save disk space, because it appears SeaMonkey is telling you that you are reaching your limit. I don't think I'm anywhere near a limit. There must be a box somewhere to uncheck. I just can't find it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
On 07/03/2012 01:21 PM, Mike C wrote: WLS wrote: On 07/03/2012 12:46 PM, Mike C wrote: Every time I delete something from my inbox I get the following. This just started. Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? I would click the Yes button, and compact my folders, to save disk space, because it appears SeaMonkey is telling you that you are reaching your limit. I don't think I'm anywhere near a limit. There must be a box somewhere to uncheck. I just can't find it. If you are getting the notification after you have compacted, then you have a problem. I would try compacting first. No, check box that I see to stop the notification. In my Linux version I have a check in my Compact folders when it will save over XX MB setting, under Edit Preferences Mail and Newsgroups Network and Storage. My setting being 20 MB. Maybe if you deselect that setting, or raise the limit, the warning will go away. Good Luck! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
Mike C: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? Uncheck Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage-Disk Space [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB But it would be better to set to a convenient value. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
Hartmut Figge wrote: Mike C: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? Uncheck Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage-Disk Space [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB But it would be better to set to a convenient value. Hartmut Thanks, That's what I was looking for. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
On 07/03/2012 02:12 PM, Mike C wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Mike C: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? Uncheck Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage-Disk Space [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB But it would be better to set to a convenient value. Hartmut Thanks, That's what I was looking for. So you aren't anywhere near the limit, but want to increase the limit, or disable the limit. Good luck when your folders get corrupted. We do hope you compact folders manually on occasion. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 79, Issue 5
(cqbrodie) 7. Re: SM 2.10.1 doesn't want to run IPv6 (NoOp) 8. Re: Crash on SM 10.1 when I try to open a film clip from an email (Paul B. Gallagher) Message: 6 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:50:43 -0700 From: cqbrodiecqbro...@comcast.net To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Crash on SM 10.1 when I try to open a film clip from an email Message-ID:4ff25e03.7050...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have SM 10.1 and two separate emails with .mwv received (from two trusted persons) would not open and I got a crash msg from SM. I have Windows SP with Service Pk 3 Anyone have any ideas what causes this? Thanks Cliff -- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 23:13:40 -0400 From: Paul B. Gallagherpau...@pbgdashtranslations.com To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Crash on SM 10.1 when I try to open a film clip from an email Message-ID:k-odntbyhlb-_m_snz2dnuvz_qidn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed cqbrodie wrote: I have SM 10.1 and two separate emails with .mwv received (from two trusted persons) would not open and I got a crash msg from SM. 1) Presumably you mean .WMV? 2) What's the crash message say? I have Windows SP with Service Pk 3 Presumably you mean XP? Anyone have any ideas what causes this? Your answers will help the experts figure it out. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ANSWERS TO PAUL'S QUESTIONS (1) Yes, it is am .wmv file (2) Yes, I have windows XP with service pack 3. Here is the drop down menu I received: I did send the report, but I was not able to fill in the detail box. I tried opening the .wmv film clip again today and got this same box. Thanks for your pending help. Cliff ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
WLS wrote: On 07/03/2012 02:12 PM, Mike C wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Mike C: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? Uncheck Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage-Disk Space [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB But it would be better to set to a convenient value. Hartmut Thanks, That's what I was looking for. So you aren't anywhere near the limit, but want to increase the limit, or disable the limit. Good luck when your folders get corrupted. We do hope you compact folders manually on occasion. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders I had just compacting all folders and right after doing it the Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders? started popping up. I've been using SM mail for 10 or 12 years now and never saw that pop up before. I do compact manually from time to time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
On 07/03/2012 03:03 PM, Mike C wrote: WLS wrote: On 07/03/2012 02:12 PM, Mike C wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Mike C: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? Uncheck Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage-Disk Space [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB But it would be better to set to a convenient value. Hartmut Thanks, That's what I was looking for. So you aren't anywhere near the limit, but want to increase the limit, or disable the limit. Good luck when your folders get corrupted. We do hope you compact folders manually on occasion. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders I had just compacting all folders and right after doing it the Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders? started popping up. I've been using SM mail for 10 or 12 years now and never saw that pop up before. I do compact manually from time to time. Nice to hear that you occasionally compact manually. Apologies, I thought you said you received the notification every time after you deleted a message. -- openSUSE 12.1 | KDE 4.8.4 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120619 Thunderbird/14.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.10.1 doesn't want to run IPv6
OK - replying from Fedora 17 now... On 07/03/2012 08:44 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/02/2012 12:19 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I've been running SM 2.9.1 on a 64 bit Linux system (Fedora 17) which lacks external IPv4 connection. It's been running fine. Are you stating that your Fedora 17 has no IPv4? Odd mine does. What does that have to do with this problem? You have a network connection which supports IPv4 to the external world, mine currently only has IPv4 to machines inside the firewall. Well... you tell me :-) Your subject is: SM 2.10.1 doesn't want to run IPv6, and yet: mine currently only has IPv4 to machines inside the firewall. So yeah, I'm still confused as to what your issue with IPv6 is/isn't. Since 2.9.1 worked, and still does after downgrade, I'm assuming that the issue with the change in behavior is caused by the change in software. Today I tried to install on a system and it just goes away without messages or warning. What does? SM 2.10.1? Or IPv6? Seamonkey. Process terminates, nothing in any log, nothing screen, tried the download contributed version, tried the Fedora version from updates-testing, same behavior. Exit status was zero (no error). OK. So SM 2.10.1 doesn't run at all - and that issue has nothing to do with IPv6. Your symptom sounds suspiciously like you have an architecture mismatch. For example, I am running this Fedora 17 in a VMWare VM. Even though my host system is 64bits, the CPU isn't 64bit VM capable, so this F17 is 32bit. If I download, extract, and try to run: seamonkey-2.10.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 I get the same symptoms (SM doesn't run). If I try SeaMonkey from the terminal/bash, I get: $ ./seamonkey bash: ./seamonkey: cannot execute binary file and checking the file: $ file seamonkey seamonkey: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped However if I use the corrext version: seamonkey-2.10.1.tar.bz2 SeaMonkey runs just fine. Note I have 2.10.1 64bit running in 64bit mode on three other partitions. So... you might want to test your version, as I see that you are running 32bit: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 I suspect virtually no one is running on IPv6 Linux and it's a contributed build so I won't bother to report it on bugzilla, just noting this in case it's useful. https://ipv6.google.com/ Works for me. ... I'm running teredo. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120630 Firefox/14.0 SeaMonkey/2.11 As noted in the subject, this report is about 2.10.1, the current shipping version. OK. http://ipv6.google.com/ works for me with 2.10.1 Fedora 17 (again, I am using miredo/teredo as a 4-6)[1]: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miredo ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?
Mike C wrote: WLS wrote: On 07/03/2012 02:12 PM, Mike C wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Mike C: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I eliminate it?? Uncheck Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage-Disk Space [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB But it would be better to set to a convenient value. Hartmut Thanks, That's what I was looking for. So you aren't anywhere near the limit, but want to increase the limit, or disable the limit. Good luck when your folders get corrupted. We do hope you compact folders manually on occasion. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders I had just compacting all folders and right after doing it the Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders? started popping up. I've been using SM mail for 10 or 12 years now and never saw that pop up before. I do compact manually from time to time. So, adjust the level/threshold for compaction as someone else suggested already. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?
Hello. Lately, I noticed two (soon to be more? I will post more that I find since I am a web addict ;)) web sites/pages are currently sucking my web browsers' CPU powers. They sometimes make web browsers very slow (sometimes unusable). I found out it is from JavaScript/JS because it stops if I disable JS and reload/refresh the web pages. Of course, web site/pages' features/functions don't work. Example web pages/sites: 1. http://cbs2.com stories like this story/web page: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/03/cudahy-mayor-resigns-amid-corruption-charges/ 2. http://icanhascheezburger.com and its family of web sites. Example web page: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2012/06/22/funny-animal-videos-the-worlds-oldest-tiger/ I can reproduce them on three different computers (quad core systems with 2.5-8 GB of RAM), two Mozilla's web browsers (SeaMonkey v2.0.14 and 2.10.1 and Firefox/Iceweasel v13.0.1) and operating systems (64-bit Windows 7 HPE, XP Pro. SP3, and Debian stable). I even tried disabling all of my extensions. Also, this happened at work and home with two different ISPs/Internet connections. :( Is anyone else able to reproduce this and seeing this problem on other web sites/pages? Why is it happening recently? I noticed this pattern since the last weekend. :( Thank you in advance. :) -- Yeah, what's left of it. I was in the militia -- national guard... That's good! Wasn't any war any more than there's war between men and ants. --stranger; And we're eat-able ants. I found that out... What will they do with us? --Pierson from H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?
Ant wrote: Lately, I noticed two (soon to be more? I will post more that I find since I am a web addict ;)) web sites/pages are currently sucking my web browsers' CPU powers. They sometimes make web browsers very slow (sometimes unusable). I found out it is from JavaScript/JS because it stops if I disable JS and reload/refresh the web pages. Of course, web site/pages' features/functions don't work. Example web pages/sites: 1. http://cbs2.com stories like this story/web page: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/03/cudahy-mayor-resigns-amid- corruption-charges/ 2. http://icanhascheezburger.com and its family of web sites. Example web page: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2012/06/22/funny-animal-videos-the-worlds- oldest-tiger/ I can reproduce them on three different computers (quad core systems with 2.5-8 GB of RAM), two Mozilla's web browsers (SeaMonkey v2.0.14 and 2.10.1 and Firefox/Iceweasel v13.0.1) and operating systems (64-bit Windows 7 HPE, XP Pro. SP3, and Debian stable). I even tried disabling all of my extensions. Also, this happened at work and home with two different ISPs/Internet connections. :( Is anyone else able to reproduce this and seeing this problem on other web sites/pages? Why is it happening recently? I noticed this pattern since the last weekend. :( I don't see any problems with the pages you cited. I've an i7 with 4GB of ram. I doubt if the JavaScript is your cause, but the videos might. Naturally, with JavaScript disabled, the videos don't work. My CPU usage never went above 26% on any core while watching the videos. No trouble seen here. (Ubuntu 11.04) -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?
No problems here either on Windows 7 SP1 running on Dell Optiplex 760 with 4GB RAM. Using FF 13.0.1 of course. M#On my other work-horse - DELL XPS 8500 with 16 GB RAM, the loading is extremely fast! Have you tried disabling Adobe Shockwave Flash Add-on? Since the beginning of June 2012, I have decided not to use Adobe Flash on my system. They help a lot in avoiding stupid Ads when using hotmail, or Yahoo web mail. My use of browser has become extremely pleasurable these days. Good luck. On 04/07/2012 04:35, Ant wrote: Hello. Lately, I noticed two (soon to be more? I will post more that I find since I am a web addict ;)) web sites/pages are currently sucking my web browsers' CPU powers. They sometimes make web browsers very slow (sometimes unusable). I found out it is from JavaScript/JS because it stops if I disable JS and reload/refresh the web pages. Of course, web site/pages' features/functions don't work. Example web pages/sites: 1. http://cbs2.com stories like this story/web page: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/03/cudahy-mayor-resigns-amid-corruption-charges/ 2. http://icanhascheezburger.com and its family of web sites. Example web page: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2012/06/22/funny-animal-videos-the-worlds-oldest-tiger/ I can reproduce them on three different computers (quad core systems with 2.5-8 GB of RAM), two Mozilla's web browsers (SeaMonkey v2.0.14 and 2.10.1 and Firefox/Iceweasel v13.0.1) and operating systems (64-bit Windows 7 HPE, XP Pro. SP3, and Debian stable). I even tried disabling all of my extensions. Also, this happened at work and home with two different ISPs/Internet connections. :( Is anyone else able to reproduce this and seeing this problem on other web sites/pages? Why is it happening recently? I noticed this pattern since the last weekend. :( Thank you in advance. :) -- Good Guy Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk Website: http://html-css.co.uk Forums: http://mytaxsite.boardhost.com Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?
On 7/3/2012 9:24 PM PT, Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: I don't see any problems with the pages you cited. I've an i7 with 4GB of ram. I doubt if the JavaScript is your cause, but the videos might. Naturally, with JavaScript disabled, the videos don't work. My CPU usage never went above 26% on any core while watching the videos. No trouble seen here. (Ubuntu 11.04) Weird. I use Flashblock and even disabled it. Other web sites with way more Flash work fine. I don't know why those two have problems. :( -- One day he sprained an ankle rather than crush an ant. --Les Miserables /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?
On 7/3/2012 9:44 PM PT, Good Guy typed: No problems here either on Windows 7 SP1 running on Dell Optiplex 760 with 4GB RAM. Using FF 13.0.1 of course. M#On my other work-horse - DELL XPS 8500 with 16 GB RAM, the loading is extremely fast! It's not the loading. It's just looking at the downloaded web pages. Let it idle and it goes slow. Have you tried disabling Adobe Shockwave Flash Add-on? Since the beginning of June 2012, I have decided not to use Adobe Flash on my system. They help a lot in avoiding stupid Ads when using hotmail, or Yahoo web mail. My use of browser has become extremely pleasurable these days. Yeah, I have the latest Flash plugins and tried disabling (FlashBlock too and its plugin). It is weird that other web sites, with lots of Flash videos, do not have this problem. -- An ant's nest could bring down a hill. --Japanese /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
