Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread Daniel

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, figuring that would pull the 2.11
files, but no luck... it still pulls the 2.10.1 files.



Jamie, have you gone directly to the 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.11 page to download the 
required Linux version??


Note the Linux/x86_64 version is linked as a contributed version further 
down the page!


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Re: User Agent location

2012-08-08 Thread Daniel

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Philip, have a look at Edit-Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings, and
select Server Settings for your Email account.

On the bottom right, it shows Local directorythis is the location
of your profile, so is the location of your prefs.js file and should be
the location for any future user.js file.


Agreed, this does indeed tally with the location of my profile.

But is this sufficiently reliable that we could recommend this
route to everyone ?  As the local directory can be specified
using the browse button, would it not be possible for someone
to select a root for other than their profile location for their
mail directory ?  It seems to me that the alternative (via
Help / Troubleshooting) should work in all cases, whereas the
mail directory location could fail in some circumstances.

Philip Taylor


I would suspect that if you used the Browse button to select a 
different location, SM would expect to find a profile structure at this 
different location!!


If you wanted to locate your profile somewhere else, you would select 
Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile and tell it 
where you want your new profile!!


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Re: email passwords....

2012-08-08 Thread NO

Rufus wrote:

NO wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Rufus wrote:

NO wrote:

Hello all - my problem is I changed my yahoo password, because it was
hacked, entered it into SM 2.11.

I did not write it down and now cannot get into the web site using the
pw I thought it was. I Am able to get mail vis-a-vis SM. Is the
password
stored somewhere that I can retrieve it easily or do I have to
change it
and write it down this time?

Thank you-Bo1953


If you have/use a SM Master Password you can go into the SM Password
Manager, choose Show Passwords, and you will be prompted to enter
your
Master Password - SM will then let you see the Passwords it has stored.

WARNING - if you don't have a Master and enter one just to try this SM
will wipe out *all* of your Stored Passwords as it resets!

I'm not sure what the SM Password Manager does if you don't use a
Master...I've never used SM without one. And this situation is *why* I
use one. But the same may actually even if you don't have a Master
Password set - which is a bit dangerous, security-wise.



If you have not set a Master Password for SM then use the Password
Manager to reveal all your passwords.  The Password Manager works the
same for both preferences, (master password set, or never set).  The
warning above should be noted, If you set a Master Password SM will wipe
out all previous passwords.

Michael G



Thank you everyone for responding. So if I understand correctly, the
passwords under Edit-Preferences-Privacy-Passwords holds the passwords
for SM email accounts which are part of the suite??



Or go to: Tools-Password Manager-Manage Stored Passwords.  That will
show *all* passwords that you've stored.


I know that passwords for web based access to web sites are there, but
did not know that it contained the passwords for SM mail/newsgroups.



Yes - it contains *all* of what you've told/allowed SM to save.  You can
recognize what is which by the associated domain name or URL.


Thank you for confirming this.

Bo



de nada.



Rufus and all,

I have gone to Edit - Privacy  Security - Passwords and found the 
PW's, where they always have been. Yet when I use the passwords stored 
there to try and access my yahoo webmail, none of them work. There are 
three (3) showing.


Yet, SM mail box can access and retrieve mail for that box. I constantly 
lock myself out of the mailbox trying to guess the pw.


Any other ideas or suggestions as to where I can find the PW's for SM 
mail suite stored?


TIA - SamuelS
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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread WLS

On 08/07/2012 09:54 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, figuring that would pull the 2.11
files, but no luck... it still pulls the 2.10.1 files.



This might explain why.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2511095

and

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/987713

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Seamonkey e-mail compose options

2012-08-08 Thread Philip TAYLOR

Although in general I prefer to control where my
line breaks are when composing e-mails, the re-wrap
functionality that is exposed when I configure
Seamonkey to automatically wrap at or before column
72 has many benefits when re-cycling (i.e., quoting)
parts of the message to which I am replying in my
own reply.  However, once I enable wrapping, I am
unable to physically differentiate between soft wrapping
and hard wrapping, as a result of which I quite
frequently send out messages with at least one line
of length nearly 144 characters.  My question is therefore
this : is there any (concealed) option for Seamonkey
that would allow me to identify soft line breaks when
composing e-mails in plain text ?  And if not, is there
any option that would allow me to identify hard line
breaks ?  The former would be better, since I would
hope that there are relatively few, but the latter would
be better than nothing.

Philip Taylor
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Special folder names?

2012-08-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Can someone provide a list of special folder names in SeaMonkey?

I know for example, that Inbox, Sent, etc. are special because they 
always appear at top and cannot be alphabetized, etc.


In particular, I'm wondering about one called Archives, which I don't 
recall creating, has no contents, and cannot be moved or deleted.


Thanks.

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Re: email passwords....

2012-08-08 Thread Rufus

NO wrote:

Rufus wrote:

NO wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Rufus wrote:

NO wrote:

Hello all - my problem is I changed my yahoo password, because it was
hacked, entered it into SM 2.11.

I did not write it down and now cannot get into the web site using
the
pw I thought it was. I Am able to get mail vis-a-vis SM. Is the
password
stored somewhere that I can retrieve it easily or do I have to
change it
and write it down this time?

Thank you-Bo1953


If you have/use a SM Master Password you can go into the SM Password
Manager, choose Show Passwords, and you will be prompted to enter
your
Master Password - SM will then let you see the Passwords it has
stored.

WARNING - if you don't have a Master and enter one just to try this SM
will wipe out *all* of your Stored Passwords as it resets!

I'm not sure what the SM Password Manager does if you don't use a
Master...I've never used SM without one. And this situation is *why* I
use one. But the same may actually even if you don't have a Master
Password set - which is a bit dangerous, security-wise.



If you have not set a Master Password for SM then use the Password
Manager to reveal all your passwords.  The Password Manager works the
same for both preferences, (master password set, or never set).  The
warning above should be noted, If you set a Master Password SM will
wipe
out all previous passwords.

Michael G



Thank you everyone for responding. So if I understand correctly, the
passwords under Edit-Preferences-Privacy-Passwords holds the passwords
for SM email accounts which are part of the suite??



Or go to: Tools-Password Manager-Manage Stored Passwords.  That will
show *all* passwords that you've stored.


I know that passwords for web based access to web sites are there, but
did not know that it contained the passwords for SM mail/newsgroups.



Yes - it contains *all* of what you've told/allowed SM to save.  You can
recognize what is which by the associated domain name or URL.


Thank you for confirming this.

Bo



de nada.



Rufus and all,

I have gone to Edit - Privacy  Security - Passwords and found the
PW's, where they always have been. Yet when I use the passwords stored
there to try and access my yahoo webmail, none of them work. There are
three (3) showing.

Yet, SM mail box can access and retrieve mail for that box. I constantly
lock myself out of the mailbox trying to guess the pw.

Any other ideas or suggestions as to where I can find the PW's for SM
mail suite stored?

TIA - SamuelS


It sounds like you managed to change your password via webmail and then 
somehow SM didn't save the new one after you went back. or vise versa...


Look and make sure the URL for your webmail and the associated one in SM 
Password Manager are the same - you may be trying to access two 
different site URLs, each with a unique association...I've seen that 
happen before with logins, but not very often.


Other than that I'm stumped...

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Re: email passwords....

2012-08-08 Thread Arnie Goetchius
NO wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 NO wrote:
 Michael Gordon wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 NO wrote:
 Any other ideas or suggestions as to where I can find the PW's for SM mail
 suite stored?

Can you go to Yahoo and use the following to get the password they have on
file for you?

https://edit.yahoo.com/forgot?stage=fe100src=fpctxintl=usdone=http://www.yahoo.com/partner=
 
 TIA - SamuelS

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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread Cruz, Jaime

WLS wrote:

On 08/07/2012 09:54 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, figuring that would pull the 2.11
files, but no luck... it still pulls the 2.10.1 files.



This might explain why.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2511095

and

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/987713



What I don't understand is that, using Ubuntuzilla, I had no problems 
installing 2.9.  When 2.10 came out, that also installed quickly with no 
problems.  Same for 2.10.1.  Now that 2.11 is out, there's nothing there.


I've dumped it (for now) and installed Chrome instead.  Of course, now I 
have the other problem of trying to figure out how to import the 
bookmarks, since Chrome only recognizes Firefox...



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Re: User Agent location

2012-08-08 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:45:40 +0800
Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:22:17 -0500, »Q« wrote:
 
  But I don't understand why SeaMonkey would be using the XFCE setting
  when I'm running a KDE session.  (And I confirmed, using
  xfce4-settings-manager to change the file manager does result in
  SeaMonkey using whatever I select.)  
 
 SeaMonkey doesn't know anything about KDE. As I understand it,
 SeaMonkey will first try using the Gnome settings, if that fails it
 then falls back to XFCE if available and if that fails, it gives up.

That makes sense.  If it reads the XFCE settings directly from the XFCE
config files, maybe just creating the files will work for people who
don't have XFCE.  As far as I can tell from grepping dotfiles, there
are two that were modified or created by xfce4-settings-manager:

$ cat ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc 
TerminalEmulator=Terminal
MailReader=sylpheed-claws
FileManager=custom-FileManager

$ cat ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers/custom-FileManager.desktop 
[Desktop Entry]
NoDisplay=true
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8
Type=X-XFCE-Helper
X-XFCE-Category=FileManager
X-XFCE-CommandsWithParameter=dolphin %s
Icon=dolphin
Name=dolphin
X-XFCE-Commands=dolphin


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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread WLS

On 08/08/2012 06:04 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

WLS wrote:

On 08/07/2012 09:54 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, figuring that would pull the 2.11
files, but no luck... it still pulls the 2.10.1 files.



This might explain why.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2511095

and

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/987713



What I don't understand is that, using Ubuntuzilla, I had no problems
installing 2.9.  When 2.10 came out, that also installed quickly with no
problems.  Same for 2.10.1.  Now that 2.11 is out, there's nothing there.

I've dumped it (for now) and installed Chrome instead.  Of course, now I
have the other problem of trying to figure out how to import the
bookmarks, since Chrome only recognizes Firefox...




What I don't get is people that can't comprehend the links I provide for 
them to read, so I will quote,


Since we have no one stepping up at the moment to maintain this for 5 
years, I think it makes the most sense to remove it from precise. We can 
always backport from later releases if someone volunteers to help with 
this.


and

Changed in seamonkey (Ubuntu Precise):
milestone:  none → ubuntu-12.04

In other words they don't package it anymore. Download and install it 
manually, or install Firefox.


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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:11:50 -0400
WLS wls15...@removeyahoo.com wrote:

 On 08/08/2012 06:04 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

  What I don't understand is that, using Ubuntuzilla, I had no
  problems installing 2.9.  When 2.10 came out, that also installed
  quickly with no problems.  Same for 2.10.1.  Now that 2.11 is out,
  there's nothing there.

[snip]
 
 Changed in seamonkey (Ubuntu Precise):
 milestone:none → ubuntu-12.04
 
 In other words they don't package it anymore. Download and install it 
 manually, or install Firefox.

That means it's not in Ubuntu's official repositories for 12.04 any
more, but Ubuntuzilla is a third-party repository.

Jaime, nobody here follows Ubuntuzilla.  Their support forum is 
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=251, and the guy who does
the packaging is active there.

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Re: Password Manager not filling in Cisco site credentials

2012-08-08 Thread lsdavitian
 
 It is possible that the login page for the website has changed from what it 
 was 
 
 when you first logged in to that domain.  I use the password manager to look 
 up
 
 the password and re-enter it in the new page (after double checking that it is
 
 the intended page).

No, it happens with a clean profile. The first time I log in it asks if I want 
to save, I answer yes and the user id and password are visible in the data 
manager. The next time I go to log in I don't have the user id available as a 
drop down, even if I click in the text box first, and I'm not prompted to save 
again.
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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread WLS

On 08/08/2012 07:41 PM, »Q« wrote:

On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:11:50 -0400
WLS wls15...@removeyahoo.com wrote:


On 08/08/2012 06:04 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:



What I don't understand is that, using Ubuntuzilla, I had no
problems installing 2.9.  When 2.10 came out, that also installed
quickly with no problems.  Same for 2.10.1.  Now that 2.11 is out,
there's nothing there.


[snip]


Changed in seamonkey (Ubuntu Precise):
milestone:  none → ubuntu-12.04

In other words they don't package it anymore. Download and install it
manually, or install Firefox.


That means it's not in Ubuntu's official repositories for 12.04 any
more, but Ubuntuzilla is a third-party repository.

Jaime, nobody here follows Ubuntuzilla.  Their support forum is
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=251, and the guy who does
the packaging is active there.



Thanks for that clarification.
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Re: Password Manager not filling in Cisco site credentials

2012-08-08 Thread Rufus

lsdavit...@gmail.com wrote:


It is possible that the login page for the website has changed from what it 
was

when you first logged in to that domain.  I use the password manager to look up

the password and re-enter it in the new page (after double checking that it is

the intended page).


No, it happens with a clean profile. The first time I log in it asks if I want 
to save, I answer yes and the user id and password are visible in the data 
manager. The next time I go to log in I don't have the user id available as a 
drop down, even if I click in the text box first, and I'm not prompted to save 
again.



You may be running into this sort of issue; it could be the site 
preventing you -


http://www.onkarjoshi.com/blog/117/force-firefox-to-save-password-even-if-autocomplete-is-disabled/


I used this solution with SM once myself...it worked for me.

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Re: Password Manager not filling in Cisco site credentials

2012-08-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/8/12 7:00 PM, Rufus wrote:
 lsdavit...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is possible that the login page for the website has changed from what 
 it was

 when you first logged in to that domain.  I use the password manager to 
 look up

 the password and re-enter it in the new page (after double checking that it 
 is

 the intended page).

 No, it happens with a clean profile. The first time I log in it asks if I 
 want to save, I answer yes and the user id and password are visible in the 
 data manager. The next time I go to log in I don't have the user id 
 available as a drop down, even if I click in the text box first, and I'm not 
 prompted to save again.

 
 You may be running into this sort of issue; it could be the site 
 preventing you -
 
 http://www.onkarjoshi.com/blog/117/force-firefox-to-save-password-even-if-autocomplete-is-disabled/
 
 
 I used this solution with SM once myself...it worked for me.
 

File nsLoginManager.js is now embedded by zipping into omni.jar.  In any
case, tweaking nsLoginManager.js (after unzipping omni.jar and then
rezipping it) does not seem to work.

Instead, I use the Remember Passwords 1.0.2 extension from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/remember-passwords/.

See also bug #425145 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425145.

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Re: Password Manager not filling in Cisco site credentials

2012-08-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/8/12 7:49 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/8/12 7:00 PM, Rufus wrote:
 lsdavit...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is possible that the login page for the website has changed from what 
 it was

 when you first logged in to that domain.  I use the password manager to 
 look up

 the password and re-enter it in the new page (after double checking that 
 it is

 the intended page).

 No, it happens with a clean profile. The first time I log in it asks if I 
 want to save, I answer yes and the user id and password are visible in the 
 data manager. The next time I go to log in I don't have the user id 
 available as a drop down, even if I click in the text box first, and I'm 
 not prompted to save again.


 You may be running into this sort of issue; it could be the site 
 preventing you -

 http://www.onkarjoshi.com/blog/117/force-firefox-to-save-password-even-if-autocomplete-is-disabled/


 I used this solution with SM once myself...it worked for me.

 
 File nsLoginManager.js is now embedded by zipping into omni.jar.  In any
 case, tweaking nsLoginManager.js (after unzipping omni.jar and then
 rezipping it) does not seem to work.
 
 Instead, I use the Remember Passwords 1.0.2 extension from
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/remember-passwords/.
 
 See also bug #425145 at
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425145.
 

Oops!  The name of the file changed from omni.jar to omni.ja early this
year, with SeaMonkey 2.7.

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Re: Netscape in Windows XP Registry

2012-08-08 Thread sean nathan

David E. Ross wrote, On 08/05/2012 12:00 PM:

While trying to solve another problem, I noticed a number of Windows XP
registry keys and values for Netscape.  I have SeaMonkey and Thunderbird
installed, but I no longer have any version of Netscape.  Can these
registry entries be safely deleted?


when i was still using windows products i always deleted the netcape 
entries with no adverse effects... i still have one old machine that i 
can flip on and double check to see if they are still there...


nope, no netscape entries all runs well...

sean


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