Re: SM 2.15 nightly: unable to save as from the main mail window with a right-click

2012-09-14 Thread dominique

On 9/13/2012 7:05 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:


Cannot reproduce, build identifier 20120913003003, Win 7 and Linux x86.
I get Save Attachment as file box title. Have you tried disabling
add-ons / safe mode?

Greetings,

Jens


Well, cannot reproduce anymore with (now) the 20120913003003 !
I tried safe mode as well as normal mode while bisecting the Add-ons in 
use, but finally everything works fine !


(there was also a Windows reboot in the mean time ;-) )

Thanks

Dominique
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Re: Update Failed

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel

Crossposted to moz.gen and follow-up set there.

NoOp wrote:

On 09/13/2012 07:12 AM, Daniel wrote:


Snip



NoOp, is the Linux i686 on x64_86 version the equivalent of the
Windows WOW64 version, i.e. 32bit version made to work on 64bit systems??


No. It's an actual 64bit version.




O.K., so if the Linux i686 on x64_86 is an actual 64bit version, what is 
the difference between it and the straight x64_86 version??


Is it tied up with the differences in CPU's, AMD v Intel?

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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote:

Desiree wrote:

My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not support SPDY.
Sea
Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in about:config
partly because of the current security vulnerability and also because
there
is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV is used. I
tried to
install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will not install. Is
there a trick that will get it to install?


In English please ;/
A very loose translation of the likely French version of question might be:
What does SPDY wish to say?

IOW HUH



Sorry, Richard, where did you get the impression that Desiree was trying 
to translate from Native French to English??


Reads o.k. to me!

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Re: Safe Browsing

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel

Philip Chee wrote:

On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:23:26 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


For more than a half century I've been a learn by experiment
learner. Before posting my initial message I had looked at
headers of messages that were tagged as possible scam and
those which were not. I spotted no difference. Afterwards I
did a little more experimentation to determine exactly what
SeaMonkey found objectionable.

SeaMonkey thinks the existence of a numeric URL in the body
of a message indicates a possible scam.

After reading your post, I sent myself two one line
messages. The body of one was www.example.com. The body of
the other was http://1.2.3.4;. [Obviously without quotation
marks]

[Note to new users following this thread - You can see the
complete headers either by using CNTRL-U while reading the
message or by a Right-click in message body and choosing
Forward in the menu.]


Currently our scam detection is a hard coded piece of code that looks
for a limited number of patterns including URLs using numeric IPs
e.g.http://1.2.3.4;. Thunderbird's code was originally similar but they
moved long ago to use the Firefox/Google Safe Browsing API. This
downloads regular updates from Google's safe browsing servers.



Phil, I find it interesting that Google has a Safe Browsing API, yet 
on several of my Usenet groups, and even here on some of the moz groups, 
a lot of the Spam seems to come via Google-Groups!!


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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-14 Thread Richard Owlett

Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Desiree wrote:

My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not
support SPDY.
Sea
Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in
about:config
partly because of the current security vulnerability and
also because
there
is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV
is used. I
tried to
install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will
not install. Is
there a trick that will get it to install?


In English please ;/
A very loose translation of the likely French version of
question might be:
What does SPDY wish to say?

IOW HUH



Sorry, Richard, where did you get the impression that
Desiree was trying to translate from Native French to English??

Reads o.k. to me!



Well my weird sense of humor kicks in when I'm up too late ;)
I had no idea what SPDY was. A normal person might have said 
her post was Greek to me. Her response referencing 
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-spdy-build/ gave me 
enough background to have an idea of what she was talking about.


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How to Sort Order Of Bookmark Folders List?

2012-09-14 Thread Arnie Goetchius
When I add a Bookmark, it goes to the bottom of the Bookmark Folder list.
How do I get the list of folders in alphabetical order? I can manually
drag and drop the folder but am looking for a way to do it automagically.

For clarification, I do not mean sorting the bookmarks with in a folder. I
know how to do that. It is the list of folders that I'm trying to sort.
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Re: How to Sort Order Of Bookmark Folders List?

2012-09-14 Thread Jay Garcia
On 14.09.2012 09:38, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 When I add a Bookmark, it goes to the bottom of the Bookmark Folder list.
 How do I get the list of folders in alphabetical order? I can manually
 drag and drop the folder but am looking for a way to do it automagically.
 
 For clarification, I do not mean sorting the bookmarks with in a folder. I
 know how to do that. It is the list of folders that I'm trying to sort.
 

Click on Bookmarks in the menu bar then Show All Bookmarks = View =
Sort = by name or other selection.

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Re: How to Sort Order Of Bookmark Folders List?

2012-09-14 Thread Jay Garcia
On 14.09.2012 09:38, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 When I add a Bookmark, it goes to the bottom of the Bookmark Folder list.
 How do I get the list of folders in alphabetical order? I can manually
 drag and drop the folder but am looking for a way to do it automagically.
 
 For clarification, I do not mean sorting the bookmarks with in a folder. I
 know how to do that. It is the list of folders that I'm trying to sort.
 

Correction .. In SM that's Bookmarks = Manage Bookmarks .. in FF it's
Show all bookmarks.

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(Seamonkey) dialogue boxes and user interface design.

2012-09-14 Thread Philip TAYLOR

It is, and will probsbly remain, a complete mystery to me as to
why some GUI designers (including Microsoft and Mozilla) see fit
to generate dialogue panes/panels with a fixed width.  This is
/particularly/ galling when the default dialogue, produced with
zero user input, fails to fit in the space allocated.  This has
just happened to me again.  An e-mail arrived from Nvidia, telling
me that a new driver was available; Seamonkey though it was either
junk or a scam (I forget which), and once I had assured it that it
was not, it invited me to Click here to always load remote content
from driv...@nvidia.eu.  I clicked here, and was presented with
a non-resizable dialogue box.  In the very first field, Add to:,
it offered me a drop-down list, pre-populated with Personal Address
B  That was it.  No clue as to which character(s) had been
replaced with the ellipsis.  The only way to find out was to click
on the expand list downwards-pointing triangle.  What on /earth/
is the point of a dialogue box that one can neither resize nor read
the default contents without having to click somewhere ?  Do UI
designers never try their user interfaces for themselves, and
discover the shortfalls ?  OK, this is not the worst example I have
ever seen (Microsoft have some absolutely appalling ones), but
surely Mozilla can do better than this.  Non-resizable dialogue
boxes are the bane of a user's life; the sooner they are consigned
to the great bit-bin in the sky (along with those that prevent
their contents from being copied for bug-reporting purposes),
the better.  Diatribe over : it has been a Very Bad Day [tm].

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Not informed of updates

2012-09-14 Thread Craig
I have been running Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on 
x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11.


Today in reading this newsgroup, I noticed mention of 2.12.1. I went to 
the Help pull-down on the menu bar and then selected Check for 
Updates. The window that came up said There are no updates available. 
Seamonkey will check periodically for updates.


http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/ shows a 
2.12.1 directory and I am currently downloading the tarball.


In addition, I find the same result with Firefox. I run Mozilla/5.0 
(X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1. 
Going to Help, selecting About Firefox, and clicking on Check for 
Updates says, Firefox is up to date. You are currently on the release 
update channel.


But if I go to
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/, I see a 
directory for 15.0.1.


Why are my browsers not telling me about updates?

Thanks,


Craig
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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Desiree schrieb:

I think the update to 2.12.1 was partly to patch the vulnerability?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/09/crime-hijacks-https-sessions/


No, this has been fixed before already.

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Re: How to Sort Order Of Bookmark Folders List?

2012-09-14 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 14.09.2012 09:38, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 
  --- Original Message ---
 
 When I add a Bookmark, it goes to the bottom of the Bookmark Folder list.
 How do I get the list of folders in alphabetical order? I can manually
 drag and drop the folder but am looking for a way to do it automagically.

 For clarification, I do not mean sorting the bookmarks with in a folder. I
 know how to do that. It is the list of folders that I'm trying to sort.

 
 Correction .. In SM that's Bookmarks = Manage Bookmarks .. in FF it's
 Show all bookmarks.
 
That is not what I'm talking about. I'm trying to sort the Folders them
selves, not what is in the Folders, that show up in the left hand pane
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Re: How to Sort Order Of Bookmark Folders List?

2012-09-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 14.09.2012 09:38, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


When I add a Bookmark, it goes to the bottom of the Bookmark Folder list.
How do I get the list of folders in alphabetical order? I can manually
drag and drop the folder but am looking for a way to do it automagically.

For clarification, I do not mean sorting the bookmarks with in a folder. I
know how to do that. It is the list of folders that I'm trying to sort.



Correction .. In SM that's Bookmarks = Manage Bookmarks .. in FF it's
Show all bookmarks.


That is not what I'm talking about. I'm trying to sort the Folders them
selves, not what is in the Folders, that show up in the left hand pane


In the Bookmarks Manager, you have two options:

1) Select any folder (including the root Bookmarks Menu), right-click, 
choose Sort by Name;


2) Manually reorder by dragging and dropping folders and/or individual 
bookmarks as you see fit.


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Does mozilla.dev.accessibility continuously exist?

2012-09-14 Thread Richard Owlett

SeaMonkey was not sure just now.
I have just now clicked *MANY TIMES* on news.mozilla.org 
followed by clicking on Get Messages.


ALL resulted in an error message to effect that 
mozilla.dev.accessibility did not appear to exist and did I 
wish to unsubscribe. Each time I chose cancel. I have no 
problem reading existing messages. [I do not locally save 
any messages.]




I have cross posted to mozilla.support.seamonkey as that 
appears normal at the moment.

My email address is valid, so one may respond there also.

Who should be notified of the problem?

I use

SeaMonkey 2.12
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0)
Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12
Build identifier: 20120826214753

on WinXP Pro SP3
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Re: How to Sort Order Of Bookmark Folders List?

2012-09-14 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 14.09.2012 09:38, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

 When I add a Bookmark, it goes to the bottom of the Bookmark Folder list.
 How do I get the list of folders in alphabetical order? I can manually
 drag and drop the folder but am looking for a way to do it automagically.

 For clarification, I do not mean sorting the bookmarks with in a
 folder. I
 know how to do that. It is the list of folders that I'm trying to sort.


 Correction .. In SM that's Bookmarks = Manage Bookmarks .. in FF it's
 Show all bookmarks.

 That is not what I'm talking about. I'm trying to sort the Folders them
 selves, not what is in the Folders, that show up in the left hand pane
 
 In the Bookmarks Manager, you have two options:
 
 1) Select any folder (including the root Bookmarks Menu), right-click,
 choose Sort by Name;

Just what I was looking for. Many thanks for your response.
 
 2) Manually reorder by dragging and dropping folders and/or individual
 bookmarks as you see fit.
 

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Re: Does mozilla.dev.accessibility continuously exist?

2012-09-14 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:38:44 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@pcnetinc.com wrote:

 SeaMonkey was not sure just now.
 I have just now clicked *MANY TIMES* on news.mozilla.org 
 followed by clicking on Get Messages.
 
 ALL resulted in an error message to effect that 
 mozilla.dev.accessibility did not appear to exist and did I 
 wish to unsubscribe. Each time I chose cancel. I have no 
 problem reading existing messages. [I do not locally save 
 any messages.]
 
 I have cross posted to mozilla.support.seamonkey as that 
 appears normal at the moment.
 My email address is valid, so one may respond there also.
 
 Who should be notified of the problem?
 
 I use
 
 SeaMonkey 2.12
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0)
  Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12
 Build identifier: 20120826214753
 
 on WinXP Pro SP3

I just used telnet to connect to the server and go to that group, and
it seems to be working fine.

  $ telnet news.mozilla.org 119
  Trying 216.196.97.169...
  Connected to news.mozilla.org.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  200 news.mozilla.org
  group mozilla.dev.accessibility
  211 3139 2 3140 mozilla.dev.accessibility

After that I pulled some headers and then some full articles, without
any problems.

Since AFAICT the server is acting normal WRT that group, I'd pursue
this in the support group first.  (Sorry, I can't help troubleshoot
SeaMonkey on this, but I hope others can.)

If it does become necessary to notify the server folks or to ask them
questions, the group for them is mozilla.dev.mozilla-org

Good luck!


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Re: Does mozilla.dev.accessibility continuously exist?

2012-09-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/14/12 1:38 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
 SeaMonkey was not sure just now.
 I have just now clicked *MANY TIMES* on news.mozilla.org 
 followed by clicking on Get Messages.
 
 ALL resulted in an error message to effect that 
 mozilla.dev.accessibility did not appear to exist and did I 
 wish to unsubscribe. Each time I chose cancel. I have no 
 problem reading existing messages. [I do not locally save 
 any messages.]
 
 
 
 I have cross posted to mozilla.support.seamonkey as that 
 appears normal at the moment.
 My email address is valid, so one may respond there also.
 
 Who should be notified of the problem?
 
 I use
 
 SeaMonkey 2.12
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0)
  Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12
 Build identifier: 20120826214753
 
 on WinXP Pro SP3
 

I just now subscribed (and then unsubscribed) to
mozilla.support.seamonkey.  There were only a few messages.  However, I
saw a message and a reply to that message, both with yesterday's date.

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Delete me

2012-09-14 Thread George Andothers
Pls delete me from the mailing list.
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Re: Delete me

2012-09-14 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
George Andothers wrote:

 Pls delete me from the mailing list.

You will have to do that yourself. It tells you how in every email you 
receive.

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
subject=unsubscribe

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Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)

2012-09-14 Thread Geoff Welsh

OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1

In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day.
I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying.

Is this a Bug anyone knows about?  Is there some setting that got 
changed during an update?


thanks!
GW
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