Re: SeaMonkey/2.19 on Linux nuked all messages in InBox and ALL folders underneath

2013-07-16 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-07-13 18:26 (GMT-0400) Michael Lueck composed:


Suggestions other than roll that account back to my most recent profile backup?


Not a fix, just a suggestion for the future: Back up daily. I think that's 
the only way to prevent inexplicable failures. Using Linux, the only time 
I've needed to restore from backup is due to disappearance of a folder due to 
an accidental drag. I've been using Mozilla.org's 2.19 downloaded and 
unpacked manually since day of release announcement. I have several mail 
accounts, and several news servers configured. In browser I usually have no 
less than 30 tabs open, often many more.


32 bit openSUSE 11.4
KDE3
EXT3 /home


System configuration:
Ubuntu 12.04 x64
XFS filesystem
SeaMonkey via UbuntuZilla, so the official Mozilla binaries

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Re: Buttons in 2.20

2013-07-16 Thread Daniel

EAW wrote:

On 7/13/2013 4:44 AM, Daniel wrote:

EAW wrote:

Hi, I just upgraded from 2.19 to 2.20b1 today (I'm on Windows 7).  I
noticed that the dual-mode buttons have all gained some weight, and the
dropdown arrow section now takes up more horizontal space than before.
Does anyone else notice this?  Possibly a regression?


Sorry, haven't installed on my Win7 as yet!!

Not sure what you mean by dual-mode buttons, in any case.


They're the toolbar buttons that have a small dropdown arrow to the
right.  If you click the arrow portion, the button can perform
additional functions.  The back and forward buttons on the browser's
navigation toolbar are a good example.


Ah! So I was aware of the functionality, just not the "dual-mode 
buttons" term ... just usually referred to as the "drop-down", i.e. the 
"Get Msgs drop-down", "Compose drop-down", etc!!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130403022815

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Re: Usenet Account troubles!!

2013-07-16 Thread Daniel

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/15/2013 2:42 AM, Daniel wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 7/14/13, Daniel  wrote:

I use Teranews.com for my Usenet account, and have two accounts for it,
free.teranews.com has my forty-odd general usenet groups, and
69.16.185.252 (the equivalent of free.teranews.com)


Maybe they changed the server IP addresses.  See what you get with an
nslookup free.teranews.com.

$ nslookup free.teranews.com.
Non-authoritative answer:
Server:  Broadband_Router.home
Address:  192.168.1.1

Name:news.iad.highwinds-media.com
Addresses:  69.16.179.22
69.16.179.23
Aliases:  free.teranews.com
news.geo.highwinds-media.com


Regards,
Lee



... is for my dozen or
so computer usage groups, however.

For the past few days, this second account has been timing out, so I've
got no access to these groups.

The first account works, but (as you're probably aware) there's very
little activity on any of the general groups, some but not much!

I cannot recall anything I've done which might have broken this second
account!

Has anybody got any suggestions as to how I can get the account
responding correctly?? Should I remove the account entries from the
password manager and hope I get asked to enter them, again?? Any other
suggestions??

TIA

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Lee, thanks for the response, but note for the future ... If someone
post to a group/list, then chances are they will be checking the
group/list for any responses, so there is no need for you to post to
their email account as well!! No biggie!!

I wouldn't expect Teranews to go changing their server IP address
without telling people it's going to happen, but it seems something has
changed, so I might have to change the address, as you suggest.



It is rarely a good idea to use an IP address in place of a domain name.

If a server has to be taken out of service for maintenance or repair,
its replacement will have a different IP address.  That replacement,
however, might only be temporary, which means you will have to keep
changing the IP address to which you refer.

Furthermore, where servers are mirrored (several identical servers, all
with the same domain name), a particular server -- with its unique IP
address -- might be allowed to die without replacement.


Thanks for that David.

Up above, I stated that I had been using 69.16.185.252, whereas Lee came 
up with 69.16.179.22/69.16.179.23, so you may well be right with your 
"die without replacement" suggestion.


Last night, I tried setting up (or, rather, modified the existing 
account) to the 69.16.179.22 address, and in trying to update the 
account I've exceeded my monthly limit so am now barred!! As the "new" 
server has yet to give me a full listing of the new or old messages in 
the (I said "a dozen or so" in error) 20 newsgroups, I guess I'll have 
to find something else to do with my time!!


Or try 69.16.185.252 again!! ;-)

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130403022815

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Re: SeaMonkey/2.19 on Linux nuked all messages in InBox and ALL folders underneath

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Lueck

Felix Miata wrote:

Not a fix, just a suggestion for the future: Back up daily.


Well, I do weekly backups on Saturday... this was to be the last email sent 
prior to weekly mailbox compaction, then backup.

I know of no way to gracefully exit Mozilla products via command line. I leave SM up "all the time", though have to restart it periodically due some blasted folder memory leak, disappearing child 
folders. To mask that, I can open a new SM mail window instance and at least the folders show up again. Sluggish folder open/close performance requires a restart however.


"Unable to expand a folder's subfolders without opening the folder first in a new 
email window"
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593519

Anyway... for daily backups I could run them on the local filesystem, and not go through the compact... IF I could automate graceful exit/restart of SM. Suggestions to accomplish such? Then I could 
have the weekly manual backup remain to our server, run that after cleanup/compact.



Using Linux, the only time I've needed to restore from backup is due to
disappearance of a folder due to an accidental drag.


Jah, I am suspecting I detected I "accidentally started to drag", realized what 
SM thought I meant, stopped, and it was too late. :-(

Sincerely,

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Re: Seamonkey is crashing my computer

2013-07-16 Thread goodwin

On 07/15/2013 09:33 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

Seamonkey 2.19 on CentOS 5.9 Linux.

Plugins:

Shockwave Flash

 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /usr/local/seamonkey.2.19/plugins/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11,2,202,297
 State: Enabled
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Adobe Reader 9.5

 File: nppdf.so,nppdf.so
 Path:
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so,/usr/local/seamonkey.2.19/plugins/nppdf.so

 Version:
 State: Disabled
 The Adobe Reader plugin is used to enable viewing of PDF and FDF
files from within the browser.

Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible

 File: nphelix.so,nphelix.so
 Path:
/usr/local/RealPlayer/mozilla/nphelix.so,/usr/local/seamonkey.2.19/plugins/nphelix.so

 Version:
 State: Enabled
 Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version
0.4.0.5745 built with gcc 3.4.6 on Nov 17 2010


I was browsing on a web page, clicked a link, and my monitor went black.
A few seconds later the BIOS boot screen started up. I had this about a
week ago, but I think I was running 2.17.1 then.

At any rate, I am not a happy camper.

Any suggestions on how to fix this? I don't like having to take the time
to recover my computer and check that the files have not been corrupted
by the unceremonious shutdown.

Also, anyone know why e2fsck clears orphaned inodes instead of attaching
them to the appropriate lost+found directory?



what makes you think this is a SM issue?
what desktop you using?
what do your logs say?

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Re: Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-16 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:01:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls  wrote:

>
>Composing an email, I have not been able to paste from the clipboard into
>the Subject field.  For me, this new with 2.19 - or did I change something?

FWIW. I am running XP.

Pasting into the subject field was only part of the problem - I was also not
able to cut or copy text in the body into the clipboard when composing an
email.

I use that capability far too often so I deleted SM 2.19 and reinstalled
2.17.1.  All clipboard actions now work as expected.


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Re: Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-16 Thread hawker

On 7/16/2013 2:30 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:01:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls  wrote:



Composing an email, I have not been able to paste from the clipboard into
the Subject field.  For me, this new with 2.19 - or did I change something?


FWIW. I am running XP.

Pasting into the subject field was only part of the problem - I was also not
able to cut or copy text in the body into the clipboard when composing an
email.

I use that capability far too often so I deleted SM 2.19 and reinstalled
2.17.1.  All clipboard actions now work as expected.




That would be a show stopper for me.  I have not updated  yet, waiting 
to hear things shake out. Can anyone confirm this bug?

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Re: Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-16 Thread Hartmut Figge
JohnW-Mpls:

>Pasting into the subject field was only part of the problem - I was also not
>able to cut or copy text in the body into the clipboard when composing an
>email.
>
>I use that capability far too often so I deleted SM 2.19 and reinstalled
>2.17.1.  All clipboard actions now work as expected.

Did you try C&P with SM 2.19 in safe-mode?

Hartmut
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Re: Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-16 Thread Hank

hawker wrote:

On 7/16/2013 2:30 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:01:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls 
wrote:



Composing an email, I have not been able to paste from the clipboard
into
the Subject field.  For me, this new with 2.19 - or did I change
something?


FWIW. I am running XP.

Pasting into the subject field was only part of the problem - I was
also not
able to cut or copy text in the body into the clipboard when composing an
email.

I use that capability far too often so I deleted SM 2.19 and reinstalled
2.17.1.  All clipboard actions now work as expected.




That would be a show stopper for me.  I have not updated  yet, waiting
to hear things shake out. Can anyone confirm this bug?


Works with SM 2.19 and W7 Home.
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Re: Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-16 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Hank wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 7/16/2013 2:30 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:01:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls 
wrote:



Composing an email, I have not been able to paste from the clipboard
into
the Subject field.  For me, this new with 2.19 - or did I change
something?


FWIW. I am running XP.

Pasting into the subject field was only part of the problem - I was
also not
able to cut or copy text in the body into the clipboard when
composing an
email.

I use that capability far too often so I deleted SM 2.19 and reinstalled
2.17.1.  All clipboard actions now work as expected.




That would be a show stopper for me.  I have not updated  yet, waiting
to hear things shake out. Can anyone confirm this bug?


Works with SM 2.19 and W7 Home.


Works just fine with SW 2.19 and Ubuntu Linux 12.04.2 LTS.


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