Re: tar.bz2 for seamonkey

2013-10-01 Thread regz91

Daniel wrote:

regz91 wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Never seen any OS vendors offering a distribution version of SM, I've
always gotten mine from the SM site!



you can see in the below webpage that many distros like Arch, Feodra,
slackware, openSUSE etc offer latest but customised versions of
SeaMonkey for download/installation.

pkgs[dot]org[slash]download[slash]seamonkey


I couldn't find the (corrected) address you give above, but I did go to
pkgs.org and then searched for SeaMonkey and they were only offering
2.20 att.

I did not post the url because i don't know if "linking" is ok in these 
newsgroups.


Here is the url http://pkgs.org/download/seamonkey

pkgs is actually a kind of indexing site and it points back to 
repositories of respective distros. If distros *do* supply latest 
version of packages/software in their repos then it would appear in 
pkgs.org.


Fox example :- you can see in the above url that openSUSE 12.2/12.3 
update repo and Slackware's Patches repo offer 2.21


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Re: tar.bz2 for seamonkey

2013-10-01 Thread Daniel

regz91 wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Never seen any OS vendors offering a distribution version of SM, I've
always gotten mine from the SM site!



you can see in the below webpage that many distros like Arch, Feodra,
slackware, openSUSE etc offer latest but customised versions of
SeaMonkey for download/installation.

pkgs[dot]org[slash]download[slash]seamonkey


I couldn't find the (corrected) address you give above, but I did go to 
pkgs.org and then searched for SeaMonkey and they were only offering 
2.20 att.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508

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Re: @Daniel & other, seamonkey 2.21. tar.bz2

2013-10-01 Thread Daniel

jibel wrote:

Thank you for the help, I have resolv the Problem , every thing is OK
thank you again


So what was your solution??

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508

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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread regz91

flyguy wrote:

regz91 wrote, On 10/1/2013 8:40 PM:

flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I too saw huge CPU usage when accessing that web page

I disabled adblock,noscript etc and the load factor was noticeably less.


Ah ha! When I disable Adblock for that page, CPU usage drops to 1 or 2%;
apparently, it's Adblock, or some interaction of Adblock and SM, with
that page. When I re-enable Adblock, the CPU usage remains at 1  or 2%;
reloading the page and  it zooommms back up 25% CPU usage. Very repeatable.

You can disable adblock for a specific webite alone by right clicking on 
the addon when you are loading a specific site.


90~95 % of the browsing issues are caused by browser's 
Addons/extensions/themes/plugins , some issues are with sites 
themeselves, some issues arise due to firewalls and Antivirus tools. 
Genuine browser issues are generally very few.


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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread flyguy

regz91 wrote, On 10/1/2013 8:40 PM:

flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I too saw huge CPU usage when accessing that web page

I disabled adblock,noscript etc and the load factor was noticeably less.


Ah ha! When I disable Adblock for that page, CPU usage drops to 1 or 2%; 
apparently, it's Adblock, or some interaction of Adblock and SM, with 
that page. When I re-enable Adblock, the CPU usage remains at 1  or 2%; 
reloading the page and  it zooommms back up 25% CPU usage. Very repeatable.


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Re: tar.bz2 for seamonkey

2013-10-01 Thread regz91

Daniel wrote:


Never seen any OS vendors offering a distribution version of SM, I've
always gotten mine from the SM site!



you can see in the below webpage that many distros like Arch, Feodra, 
slackware, openSUSE etc offer latest but customised versions of 
SeaMonkey for download/installation.


pkgs[dot]org[slash]download[slash]seamonkey

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Re: seamonkey esr for windows

2013-10-01 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 02/10/2013 00:46, Bryan v. Roache told the world:
> hi does any one know ware i can get SeaMonkey esr  64 bit for windows  at?

I don't thing there is such an animal.

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Re: SM 2.21 on Win7 does not prompt me for download destination anymore

2013-10-01 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 01/10/2013 14:59, bernard told the world:

> Phew, I have to admit I couldn't make sense of that,
> until realised "down them all" is the name of an existing
> extension for firefox (is it supposed to work with seamonkey?)
> No, I am not using it, or any other download manager.

Yes, it does work with Seamonkey. Personally, I think it's one of major
sales points of the Firefox extension ecosystem; simply stated, there's
nothing for Chrome or IE or Safari or even old-time Opera that comes
close to it.

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seamonkey esr for windows

2013-10-01 Thread Bryan v. Roache

hi does any one know ware i can get SeaMonkey esr  64 bit for windows  at?

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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread regz91

flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I too saw huge CPU usage when accessing that web page

I disabled adblock,noscript etc and the load factor was noticeably less.

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Re: Inbox full?

2013-10-01 Thread NoOp
On 10/01/2013 04:22 AM, Connie wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 10:13, Ken Whiton wrote:
>> How is he supposed to "go back and read the original message"
>> when the original message was never posted in this newsgroup?  The
>> partial References: header quoted above contains the Message-ID of
>> the message/post you replied to to start this thread.
> 
> I /didn't/ start the thread and it /wasn't/ a personal message to me because 
> I 
> don't know the person who DID start the thread.  Also I quoted the whole 
> message 
> in my reply.  The original message CAN therefore be read.
> 
> I didn't post to the newsgroup.  I posted to the mailing list which is 
> gatewayed 
> to the newsgroup.
> 

The message didn't make it to the news server - or if it did it was
filtered along the way.

I _can_ see the original in the mailing list (via gmane.org) but
_cannot_ see it here (news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey).

> Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
> From: "Susan Friedman" 
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user
> Subject: HELP
> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:13:31 +
> Lines: 5
> Approved: n...@gmane.org
> Message-ID: 
> <438185356-1378332811-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1773168975-@b2.c6.bise6.blackberry>
> Reply-To: sfriedman-rAZbjtRKspe1Z/+hsey...@public.gmane.org
> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380510716 29839 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2013 03:11:56 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: use...@ger.gmane.org
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:11:56 + (UTC)

Hence the confusion?


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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread WaltS

On 10/01/2013 10:37 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

flyguy wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I'll bet it has something to do with the 1.8 Megabytes of JavaScript on
that page.

Or maybe the 20 HTML errors, or the 973 CSS errors. It's also a
"jquery" page and most of those are resource hogs.


   Can you determine why IE 8 doesn't have problem with it, and SM 2.21
does? For now, I open the rvtrader pages in IE 8, even though it's
inconvenient.


No, sorry I can't. I don't use Windows so have no IE. I can say that the
page does not hog my CPU when using any of my browsers.


On the latest Beta of SM activity monitor indicate a maximum of 11% CPU
Usage. y Mac uses 8 GB DDR3 1067MHz RAM




1% CPU and 328 KB memory usage with Firefox 25.0b3 and 2 tabs open, 17% 
CPU and 151 KB of memory usage with SeaMonkey 2.21 with the same 2 tabs. 
There is also a plugin container with SeaMonkey open using 9% CPU and 57 
KB of memory.



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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread Paul

flyguy wrote:
This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so 
in IE 8.


http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the 
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


In SM 1119 the page briefly shows that one rv and then locks up
with a white screen.  The home page is blank gray.
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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread Trane Francks

On 10/2/13 11:20 AM +0900, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

flyguy wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I'll bet it has something to do with the 1.8 Megabytes of JavaScript on
that page.

Or maybe the 20 HTML errors, or the 973 CSS errors. It's also a
"jquery" page and most of those are resource hogs.


  Can you determine why IE 8 doesn't have problem with it, and SM 2.21
does? For now, I open the rvtrader pages in IE 8, even though it's
inconvenient.


No, sorry I can't. I don't use Windows so have no IE. I can say that the
page does not hog my CPU when using any of my browsers.

On my Mac running OS X 10.6.8 and SM 2.21, that page only uses ~6.5% 
(give or take a few points) CPU. Interesting.


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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread PhillipJones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

flyguy wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I'll bet it has something to do with the 1.8 Megabytes of JavaScript on
that page.

Or maybe the 20 HTML errors, or the 973 CSS errors. It's also a
"jquery" page and most of those are resource hogs.


   Can you determine why IE 8 doesn't have problem with it, and SM 2.21
does? For now, I open the rvtrader pages in IE 8, even though it's
inconvenient.


No, sorry I can't. I don't use Windows so have no IE. I can say that the
page does not hog my CPU when using any of my browsers.

On the latest Beta of SM activity monitor indicate a maximum of 11% CPU 
Usage. y Mac uses 8 GB DDR3 1067MHz RAM


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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
flyguy wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> flyguy wrote:
>>> This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
>>> in IE 8.
>>>
>>> http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813
>>>
>>> Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
>>> computer, and I can hear the HD whining.
>>
>> I'll bet it has something to do with the 1.8 Megabytes of JavaScript on
>> that page.
>>
>> Or maybe the 20 HTML errors, or the 973 CSS errors. It's also a
>> "jquery" page and most of those are resource hogs.
> 
>   Can you determine why IE 8 doesn't have problem with it, and SM 2.21
> does? For now, I open the rvtrader pages in IE 8, even though it's
> inconvenient.

No, sorry I can't. I don't use Windows so have no IE. I can say that the 
page does not hog my CPU when using any of my browsers.

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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread flyguy

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 10/1/2013 5:34 PM:

flyguy wrote:


This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I'll bet it has something to do with the 1.8 Megabytes of JavaScript on
that page.

Or maybe the 20 HTML errors, or the 973 CSS errors. It's also a "jquery"
page and most of those are resource hogs.


 Can you determine why IE 8 doesn't have problem with it, and SM 2.21 
does? For now, I open the rvtrader pages in IE 8, even though it's 
inconvenient.


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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
flyguy wrote:

> This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
> in IE 8.
> 
> http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813
> 
> Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
> computer, and I can hear the HD whining.

I'll bet it has something to do with the 1.8 Megabytes of JavaScript on 
that page.

Or maybe the 20 HTML errors, or the 973 CSS errors. It's also a "jquery" 
page and most of those are resource hogs.

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Return of zombie compose window

2013-10-01 Thread Mark Berger

Win XP Pro SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 
SeaMonkey/2.21


Every now and then I will get a zombie compose window after sending an 
email.  This appears to be a return of something similar to bugs 347693 
and 153216, reported much earlier.  Doesn't always happen, and the only 
way to get rid of it is to close SM.


Anybody else having this problem?
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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

JAS wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS wrote:

On 10/01/2013 10:33 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:


JAS wrote:

I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812


the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could
click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?


If it does not depend on a plug-in (e.g., is native HTML 5 ),
then one would not expect a configuration parameter specific to
plugs-in to have any effect.  How about media.autoplay.enabled ?

Philip Taylor



Please bottom post. :)

I just installed SM 2.21 to test this site, because I could not
duplicate the problem in Firefox 25.0b3. In fact none of the videos (all
Flash) would not play at http://abcnews.go.com/video with Firefox.

I find the same occurs with this SeaMonkey. Flash is enabled, no ad
blocking, cookies accepted. Videos play at all other sites I tested.


Video plays here immediately on page loading, as the OP complains.

Have you checked your Flash installation? I have
 Shockwave Flash 11.8.800.168
 Shockwave for Director 12.0.4.144

Or was that double negative ("none... would not play") intended as a
positive?


I have the same versions of flash and when right clicking on the video
it shows Kaltura video player??


That's what ABC uses to show vids. But if you look at the rest of the 
context menu you should also see options for Adobe's Flash player.


If Flash is OK, then the next place I'd look is an ad blocker or 
firewall to see if they're blocking it.


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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Taylor wrote:


flyguy wrote:

This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
in IE 8.



Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.


I see similar (except CPU usage is > 90%) in Seamonkey 2.20.


Me too, 25-28% vs. 1-3% in IE. Win7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), SM 2.21.
Intel(R) Core(TM)i5-2320 CPU @3 GHz, 8 GB RAM

Does it really need a quarter of that?

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Re: Email font size

2013-10-01 Thread PhillipJones

sean nathan wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 9/27/2013 9:16 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

I get emails from a variety of email client software users.  Some of
them, their emails are tiny font sizes.  Although, my quoted parts are
displayed at the size I prefer (which is set somewhere in my prefs I
suppose).

I've asked and some of them have said the equivalent of : "I have no
problem, all our messasges display fine."

Any ideas?


  I get this all the time, especially from Mac users using Outlook. May
folks using Cloud based e-mail send me the fonts larger than I want.
In the end everyone has different personal preferences so I just use
CTRL + and CTRL - to zoom in and out if I don't like the size. Easier
than trying to life an elephant over my head


bingo...


There is a difference between the way Mac and PC  the Formula is 6/9 for 
PC to Mac and 9/6 for Mac to PC  Mac Fonts are based on 72 DPI  in a 8px 
wide 9 px long pattern and PC 96 DPI  in a 12 - 8 pattern you always 
going to get a difference in size  a a 10pt font on a Mac will show 
about 14 pt on a PC, a 12 pt font on PC will appear like 9 or 8 point on 
the Mac.  There will always be different. The only a way document will 
look identical on a Mac and PC is convert it to PDF


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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread JAS
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> WaltS wrote:
>> On 10/01/2013 10:33 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> JAS wrote:
 I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
 http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812


 the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could
 click to
 play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
 true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?

>>> If it does not depend on a plug-in (e.g., is native HTML 5 ),
>>> then one would not expect a configuration parameter specific to
>>> plugs-in to have any effect.  How about media.autoplay.enabled ?
>>>
>>> Philip Taylor
>>
>>
>> Please bottom post. :)
>>
>> I just installed SM 2.21 to test this site, because I could not
>> duplicate the problem in Firefox 25.0b3. In fact none of the videos (all
>> Flash) would not play at http://abcnews.go.com/video with Firefox.
>>
>> I find the same occurs with this SeaMonkey. Flash is enabled, no ad
>> blocking, cookies accepted. Videos play at all other sites I tested.
>
> Video plays here immediately on page loading, as the OP complains.
>
> Have you checked your Flash installation? I have
> Shockwave Flash 11.8.800.168
> Shockwave for Director 12.0.4.144
>
> Or was that double negative ("none... would not play") intended as a
> positive?
>
I have the same versions of flash and when right clicking on the video
it shows Kaltura video player??

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Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread Philip Taylor


flyguy wrote:
> This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so
> in IE 8.
> 
> http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813
> 
> Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the
> computer, and I can hear the HD whining.

I see similar (except CPU usage is > 90%) in Seamonkey 2.20.
Philip Taylor
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Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE

2013-10-01 Thread flyguy
This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so 
in IE 8.


http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813

Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the 
computer, and I can hear the HD whining.

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Re: Email font size

2013-10-01 Thread sean nathan

hawker wrote:

On 9/27/2013 9:16 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

I get emails from a variety of email client software users.  Some of
them, their emails are tiny font sizes.  Although, my quoted parts are
displayed at the size I prefer (which is set somewhere in my prefs I
suppose).

I've asked and some of them have said the equivalent of : "I have no
problem, all our messasges display fine."

Any ideas?


  I get this all the time, especially from Mac users using Outlook. May
folks using Cloud based e-mail send me the fonts larger than I want.
In the end everyone has different personal preferences so I just use
CTRL + and CTRL - to zoom in and out if I don't like the size. Easier
than trying to life an elephant over my head


bingo...


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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread WaltS

On 10/01/2013 01:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS wrote:

On 10/01/2013 10:33 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:


JAS wrote:

I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812


the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?


If it does not depend on a plug-in (e.g., is native HTML 5 ),
then one would not expect a configuration parameter specific to
plugs-in to have any effect.  How about media.autoplay.enabled ?

Philip Taylor



Please bottom post. :)

I just installed SM 2.21 to test this site, because I could not
duplicate the problem in Firefox 25.0b3. In fact none of the videos (all
Flash) would not play at http://abcnews.go.com/video with Firefox.

I find the same occurs with this SeaMonkey. Flash is enabled, no ad
blocking, cookies accepted. Videos play at all other sites I tested.


Video plays here immediately on page loading, as the OP complains.

Have you checked your Flash installation? I have
 Shockwave Flash 11.8.800.168
 Shockwave for Director 12.0.4.144

Or was that double negative ("none... would not play") intended as a
positive?




New profile, latest Flash update for Linux, no extensions.

The ads play ;)

Maybe abcnews.go.com/video only works with Windows?

Nope. Installed User Agent Switcher 0.7.3, and the UA update file.

Spoofed as Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/5.0)

This is what I get.

http://imgur.com/ENoO3Vv
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personal digital certificates impossibile to use with SM 2.21

2013-10-01 Thread Gabriel

Hello,

I noticed right now that the menu "Security" in the composition window 
does not show any checkmark when I select "Encrypt" or "Digitally Sign".

I do have valid personal certificates installed in SM.

I'm using:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

Build identifier: 20130908221205


I'm also sure it worked until some times ago.

Gabriel
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Re: SM 2.21 on Win7 does not prompt me for download destination anymore

2013-10-01 Thread bernard

Bryan v. Roache wrote, On 2013-10-01 13:49:

On 10/1/2013 4:41 AM, bernard wrote:

Hello, it seems since I upgraded to v2.21 I am not being
prompted for a destination folder for my downloaded files.
If I change the preferences to always download to a fixed
directory, my downloads correctly end there. Otherwise,
I find the downloaded files lingering in my %TEMP% directory,
albeit with a .part extension...

Is anyone seeing this?
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do you have down them all installed? that might be your issue.


Phew, I have to admit I couldn't make sense of that,
until realised "down them all" is the name of an existing
extension for firefox (is it supposed to work with seamonkey?)
No, I am not using it, or any other download manager.

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@Daniel & other, seamonkey 2.21. tar.bz2

2013-10-01 Thread jibel
Thank you for the help, I have resolv the Problem , every thing is OK 
thank you again

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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

WaltS wrote:

On 10/01/2013 10:33 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:


JAS wrote:

I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812

the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?


If it does not depend on a plug-in (e.g., is native HTML 5 ),
then one would not expect a configuration parameter specific to
plugs-in to have any effect.  How about media.autoplay.enabled ?

Philip Taylor



Please bottom post. :)

I just installed SM 2.21 to test this site, because I could not
duplicate the problem in Firefox 25.0b3. In fact none of the videos (all
Flash) would not play at http://abcnews.go.com/video with Firefox.

I find the same occurs with this SeaMonkey. Flash is enabled, no ad
blocking, cookies accepted. Videos play at all other sites I tested.


Video plays here immediately on page loading, as the OP complains.

Have you checked your Flash installation? I have
Shockwave Flash 11.8.800.168
Shockwave for Director 12.0.4.144

Or was that double negative ("none... would not play") intended as a 
positive?


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Re: Ctrl-N

2013-10-01 Thread Geoff Welsh

Philip Taylor wrote:

My thanks to those who have responded, but the original
question remains unanswered (I was not asking what is the
default behaviour, nor was I asking how to maximise a window) --


Is there any configuration option that will allow me to specify,
when I press Ctrl-N or create a new Seamonkey browser window
in any other way, that the new window should always be full-
screen, regardless of how the current window is currently formatted ?


Philip Taylor


No.
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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread EE

NFN Smith wrote:

JAS wrote:

I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812

the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?




The standard answer to this one is the FlashBlock extension.

However, one variant: I run NoScript, and am pretty limited in which
scripts I give permanent permissions to.  Thus, for most sites that I
visit, scripts are disabled, and if there's Flash content, that won't
run either, until I enable one or more scripts.

For that particular site, there's enough scripts running there, that
it's hard to tell which script is actually delivering the flash, and
it's easier to do a "temporarily enable all" than it is to grant access
(temporarily or permanently) to a single script source.

Smith



Did you set all the plugins to "Ask to Activate" after setting 
click-to-play to true?


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Re: tar.bz2 for seamonkey

2013-10-01 Thread jibelito
Le dimanche 29 septembre 2013 14:28:05 UTC+2, jibel a écrit :
> Hi ,
> 
> I have a big trouble with the seamonkey 2.21 for install him , this 
> 
> folder is an tar.bz2 and for me it's a problem after extracting with any 
> 
> app's style P7zip-all or gestionnaire of folder I have attempts with 
> 
> different app's specific . It's a real problem  to used this style of 
> 
> folder tar.bz , tar-gz , etc many people are the same problem like me 
> 
> for installing your program
> 
> I can't install him , I can't find how to do that for install this 
> 
> program. Please can you explain the install proceed and whit  what used 
> 
> the best to install seamonkey , I would like really trying and using him 
> 
> , but for the moment ...I can't
> 
> Many thanks for your answer , best regard ,
> 
> Jibel

@ Daniel,sorry for the delayed respons ,
My linux distros are ubuntu 12.04.3(latest-one version)I have the surround 
choice between  , KDE, Gnome , lxde, unity, etc (install afterwith 
synaptic)
..unfortunately I have always the same install trouble after extract anywhere 
in the PC ?(download ,board,folders etc)   I trying like you say on the 
terminal " rm etc " nothing happens , no folders exist on???

~/Documents$ tar -xjvf seamonkey-2.21.fr.x86_64.tar.bz2
tar (child): seamonkey-2.21.fr.x86_64.tar.bz2 : open impossible: Aucun fichier 
ou dossier de ce type

 I don't know what to do ??? thanks if you known something different , best 
regard  jibel
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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread NFN Smith

JAS wrote:

I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812
the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?




The standard answer to this one is the FlashBlock extension.

However, one variant: I run NoScript, and am pretty limited in which 
scripts I give permanent permissions to.  Thus, for most sites that I 
visit, scripts are disabled, and if there's Flash content, that won't 
run either, until I enable one or more scripts.


For that particular site, there's enough scripts running there, that 
it's hard to tell which script is actually delivering the flash, and 
it's easier to do a "temporarily enable all" than it is to grant access 
(temporarily or permanently) to a single script source.


Smith



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.21 is a major mess!

2013-10-01 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

Desiree wrote:





How so?  The DEFAULT behavior was changed so I don't follow your
reasoning.  If I had a  USER designated preference and I put that in a
user.js file then that wouldn't be changed with a new version of
SeaMonkey but this happened because the default behavior was changed.


Desiree, if you set a pref in a user.js file then, each time you start
SM or FF, that pref is applied *after* the prefs.js file is read, so,
unless the pref you set is totally disabled, SM/FF will start up with
the pref set to default and then be set as per your user.js file.

Or something like that!!


Thinking further, maybe, in the start-up process, the user.js settings 
might be read into the prefs.js file and then SM/FF starts up.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508

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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread WaltS

On 10/01/2013 10:33 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:


JAS wrote:

I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812
the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?


If it does not depend on a plug-in (e.g., is native HTML 5 ),
then one would not expect a configuration parameter specific to
plugs-in to have any effect.  How about media.autoplay.enabled ?

Philip Taylor



Please bottom post. :)

I just installed SM 2.21 to test this site, because I could not 
duplicate the problem in Firefox 25.0b3. In fact none of the videos (all 
Flash) would not play at http://abcnews.go.com/video with Firefox.


I find the same occurs with this SeaMonkey. Flash is enabled, no ad 
blocking, cookies accepted. Videos play at all other sites I tested.


I'm stumped.

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Seamonkey + Lightning nightly (20131001)

2013-10-01 Thread dominique

Hello all,

Since the recent bump to the new version (SM 2.24a1, lightning 2.9a1, 
both nightlies) things appear broken on my machine (Windows8 Enterprise).


Any bug tracking this issue ? Thanks for pointer or help here.

Best regards,

Dominique
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Re: Ctrl-N

2013-10-01 Thread Philip Taylor


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Sorry, I don't think you can control that.

> You can specify this for shortcuts (.lnk files), if that's any consolation.

No consolation, Paul.  Different and unrelated question.
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Re: Ctrl-N

2013-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Taylor wrote:


Thank you, Paul.  Unfortunately you are still telling me what the
default behaviour is, and how I can take extra steps each time I want
to open a new window in order to avoid that default behaviour.


Sorry, I don't think you can control that.


I do not know how to make it any clearer that this is not the
information I am seeking -- I am asking (for the third time)


You can specify this for shortcuts (.lnk files), if that's any consolation.

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Re: disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread Philip Taylor
If it does not depend on a plug-in (e.g., is native HTML 5 ),
then one would not expect a configuration parameter specific to
plugs-in to have any effect.  How about media.autoplay.enabled ?

Philip Taylor

JAS wrote:
> I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
> http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812
> the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
> play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
> true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?
> 

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disable auto start of videos

2013-10-01 Thread JAS
I am running SM 2.2.1 on XP Pro. When I go to sites like
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-father-shielded-rock-slide-killed/story?id=20427812
the video starts playing and I would rather have it so I could click to
play if desired. In about :config I have  plugins.click_to_play set to
true??  Is there a setting to disable the auto play?

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Re: Ctrl-N

2013-10-01 Thread Philip Taylor
Thank you, Paul.  Unfortunately you are still telling me
what the default behaviour is, and how I can take extra
steps each time I want to open a new window in order
to avoid that default behaviour.  I do not know how to
make it any clearer that this is not the information
I am seeking -- I am asking (for the third time)

>>> Is there any configuration option that will allow me to specify,
>>> when I press Ctrl-N or create a new Seamonkey browser window
>>> in any other way, that the new window should always be full-
>>> screen, regardless of how the current window is currently formatted ?

In other words, I want to make a change to Seamonkey's
configuration such that, each time I open a new Seamonkey
browser window, that window is maximised, /regardless/ of
the state of any previous browser window and of Windows'
default behaviour in the absence of any explicit instruction(s)
as to how a new window should be displayed.

I /really/ do not believe that the Windows' API does not
have an option "Create new window and display maximised" [1]

[1] See
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms633548%28v=vs.85%29.aspx


Paul Gallagher wrote :

> I will repeat and rephrase the answer I gave some moments ago:
> 
> If your previous browser window (before you closed it) was full-screen,
> then Ctrl-N will produce another full window. This is a Windows feature,
> not a SeaMonkey feature.
> 
> So if that's what you want, get in the habit of maximizing the browser
> window before closing it.
> 
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Re: Ctrl-N

2013-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Taylor wrote:


My thanks to those who have responded, but the original
question remains unanswered (I was not asking what is the
default behaviour, nor was I asking how to maximise a window) --


Is there any configuration option that will allow me to specify,
when I press Ctrl-N or create a new Seamonkey browser window
in any other way, that the new window should always be full-
screen, regardless of how the current window is currently formatted ?


I will repeat and rephrase the answer I gave some moments ago:

If your previous browser window (before you closed it) was full-screen, 
then Ctrl-N will produce another full window. This is a Windows feature, 
not a SeaMonkey feature.


So if that's what you want, get in the habit of maximizing the browser 
window before closing it.


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Re: SM 2.21 on Win7 does not prompt me for download destination anymore

2013-10-01 Thread Bryan v. Roache

On 10/1/2013 4:41 AM, bernard wrote:

Hello, it seems since I upgraded to v2.21 I am not being
prompted for a destination folder for my downloaded files.
If I change the preferences to always download to a fixed
directory, my downloads correctly end there. Otherwise,
I find the downloaded files lingering in my %TEMP% directory,
albeit with a .part extension...

Is anyone seeing this?
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Re: Ctrl-N

2013-10-01 Thread Philip Taylor
My thanks to those who have responded, but the original
question remains unanswered (I was not asking what is the
default behaviour, nor was I asking how to maximise a window) --

> Is there any configuration option that will allow me to specify,
> when I press Ctrl-N or create a new Seamonkey browser window
> in any other way, that the new window should always be full-
> screen, regardless of how the current window is currently formatted ?

Philip Taylor


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Re: Inbox full?

2013-10-01 Thread Connie

On 01/10/2013 10:13, Ken Whiton wrote:

How is he supposed to "go back and read the original message"
when the original message was never posted in this newsgroup?  The
partial References: header quoted above contains the Message-ID of
the message/post you replied to to start this thread.


I /didn't/ start the thread and it /wasn't/ a personal message to me because I 
don't know the person who DID start the thread.  Also I quoted the whole message 
in my reply.  The original message CAN therefore be read.


I didn't post to the newsgroup.  I posted to the mailing list which is gatewayed 
to the newsgroup.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.21 is a major mess!

2013-10-01 Thread Desiree

On 9/30/2013 7:48 PM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 30/09/2013 20:46, Desiree wrote:

On 9/30/2013 1:36 AM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 30/09/2013 17:09, Desiree wrote:


Anyhow, it is this setting "browser.taskbar.previews.enable" which has
changed from False to True in SM 2.21 and causes a horrible mess on
Windows 8 Pro.  I toggled it back to False and instantly everything was
fine again.  I cannot imagine why anyone would want to see a "preview"
of maybe 20 to 100 tabs on the taskbar.  It is absurdities like this
that make me glad that with Fx ESR, I only have to endure changes ONCE a
year.


We don't show tab previews if there are more than 7 tabs, so you will
never see previews of "20 to 100 tabs" regardless.


It was showing about 18-20 vertically.  That's how many tabs I had open
in SeaMonkey.  They weren't "previews" anyway. It was just a clickable
list of ALL tabs shown vertically.


Ah OK those are different. Sorry for the confusion.

Phil

I was just on my older XP Pro machine and I updated SeaMonkey there from 
2.20 to 2.21. I was a bit amused (and relieved) that the 
"browser.taskbar.previews.enable" setting has no effect on SeaMonkey on 
XP.  XP is showing its age!


The main problem on Windows 8 Pro with this new setting was not the 
vertical clickable list of all tabs open in SeaMonkey when I hovered the 
mouse over the taskbar icon. That was something not expected but not bad 
except it was hard to read because I use Windows Blinds and have full 
transparency of a window like that.


What was awful was the fact that SeaMonkey could not be maximized from 
the taskbar without considerable effort. There was no thumbnail of 
SeaMonkey on mouse hover on the taskbar icon and clicking on the icon to 
maximize gave me two windows with the second one partially on top of the 
first and the vertical list of tabs on both windows. I finally learned 
that if I clicked on the last tab in the vertical list on the second 
(topmost) window that was partially on top of the window underneath it 
that would make the top window disappear and the window underneath it 
was the maximized SeaMonkey with all my tabs that I should gotten when I 
clicked on the SeaMonkey icon on the taskbar.  This sounds like a bug to 
me.

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Re: Inbox full?

2013-10-01 Thread Connie

On 01/10/2013 10:13, Ken Whiton wrote:

  How is he supposed to "go back and read the original message"
when the original message was never posted in this newsgroup?  The
partial References: header quoted above contains the Message-ID of
the message/post you replied to to start this thread.  That message
doesn't appear in this newsgroup on this server, nor does Google
Groups find that Message-ID.


PS:  Look at the date of Susan's message (my emphasis):

On *04/09/2013* 23:13, Susan Friedman wrote:

I didn't get that until 30 Sept.  It seems to have been wandering around 
cyberspace for 26 days.


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Re: Inbox full?

2013-10-01 Thread Connie

On 30/09/2013 19:23, EE wrote:

You should make a habit of emptying the trash after deleting messages, and then
compacting the folders.  And do not use the inbox for storage.  It was not meant
for that.  This page was written for Thunderbird, but it also applies to 
SeaMonkey:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keep_it_working_%28Thunderbird%29


I take it the above is for Susan's benefit rather than mine.

The mail Susan was querying was in all likelihood a spam mail that was sent 
through to her inbox by her email provider.  It doesn't actually have anything 
to do with SeaMonkey.


I get mails periodically from "support", or whatever, claiming I've exceeded my 
inbox quota of 3GB or 5GB.  I use Gmail.  My inbox quota is well in excess of 
that.  Gmail correctly treats the mail with the contempt it's due and dumps it 
in the junk mail.


However, there are still some ISPs who DO limit the size of their client's 
inbox, hence my question to Susan as to whether there was a limit on her inbox. 
 If she has then she needs to attend to the matter in webview.  If she hasn't, 
she can safely ignore the mail and mark it as spam/junk mail or whatever..


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Re: tar.bz2 for seamonkey

2013-10-01 Thread Daniel

WaltS wrote:

On 09/30/2013 08:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

WaltS wrote:

On 09/29/2013 09:57 AM, Daniel wrote:

jibel wrote:

Hi ,
I have a big trouble with the seamonkey 2.21 for install him , this
folder is an tar.bz2 and for me it's a problem after extracting with
any
app's style P7zip-all or gestionnaire of folder I have attempts with
different app's specific . It's a real problem  to used this style of
folder tar.bz , tar-gz , etc many people are the same problem like me
for installing your program
I can't install him , I can't find how to do that for install this
program. Please can you explain the install proceed and whit  what
used
the best to install seamonkey , I would like really trying and using
him
, but for the moment ...I can't
Many thanks for your answer , best regard ,
Jibel


Jibel, although I can see that you are using a Linux x86_64 version of
TB to send this post, I've got no idea which version of Linux you are
using, so I will just explain how I install my Linux x86_64 version on
my Mandriva 2009 Linux. Hope that helps.

After I download the file to my desire location, I then open a terminal
and point it at that location. Then, in the terminal window, I enter
.

rm -rf seamonkey
tar -xjvf seamonkey-2.21.en-us.x86_64.tar.bz2

The first line removes all directories and files, recursively, from the
directory seamonkey (i.e. deletes the "old" version), which you
probably
will not have do do, as this is your first install. The second line
(with the version number adjusted for the version you are installing)
runs the file to install the SeaMonkey program into a sub-folder of
your
current location.

Hope this helps you.




Those are the reinforce the stereotype that Linux is for geeks
instructions. :)

I download the file to my applications folder, right-click, select
Extract > Extract Archive Here.

All done.


Walt, do you worry about de-installing the old version, or do you just
plonk the new over the old??

If I remember when I next have to install a new SM (I'm currently
waiting for SM 2.22b1 to be released), I'll try to remember to give this
a go.




I don't have any old, unless I install the distributions build. Then I
wait until they get around to providing the update, and just install
over the old version. Chemspill builds almost never show up.


Sorry, Walt, you've lost me!! (I know, easy done!! ;-P ) If you have, at 
some time, installed SM, then, when you go to install another version, 
as you type "I don't have any old", you must have removed this "old" 
version sometime along the way!



Unlike the OS vendors distribution version, with an installation of the
tarball file SeaMonkey updates automagically when released by Mozilla.


Never seen any OS vendors offering a distribution version of SM, I've 
always gotten mine from the SM site!



No waiting for the distributions builder to get around to it.

Currently don't have any SeaMonkey on my system.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.21 is a major mess!

2013-10-01 Thread Daniel

Desiree wrote:

On 9/30/2013 7:50 AM, EE wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 9/22/2013 1:49 AM, Desiree wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.21 from 2.20 on Windows 8 Pro.  I lost ALL mail
(already posted here about that).

SeaMonkey is minimized to the Taskbar and when I try to maximize it, it
behaves very weirdly. It shows the tabs in a vertical transparent list.
   I can't maximize it.

It is COMPLETELY UNUSABLE AFTER MINIMIZING TO TASKBAR.  It works
normally as long as I don't minimize it (or open Mail window as then I
cannot later go to SeaMonkey tabs window). Once minimized,  it is
crippled.  I don't know how to describe it. Is there a way to upload
screenshots here?



I'm really surprised no one here had the answer. I thought Mozilla read
this news group?

Someone joined dslreports.com just to answer this question that I had
posted there also. I use Fx 17.0.9 ESR as my default browser (but also
enjoy using SeaMonkey). Fx 17.0.9 ESR has this particular setting
defaulted to FALSE. But the latest SeaMonkey has it, for some
unfathomable reason, defaulted to TRUE.  I suppose it must default to
"true" on Fx on some version past the current ESR version 17.0.9 and
SeaMonkey is just following Fx's lead. So, I assume I will also
encounter this absurdity on Fx 24 ESR when it is pushed through an
internal update in January 2014.

Anyhow, it is this setting "browser.taskbar.previews.enable" which has
changed from False to True in SM 2.21 and causes a horrible mess on
Windows 8 Pro.  I toggled it back to False and instantly everything was
fine again.  I cannot imagine why anyone would want to see a "preview"
of maybe 20 to 100 tabs on the taskbar.  It is absurdities like this
that make me glad that with Fx ESR, I only have to endure changes ONCE a
year.


If you put settings like that into a user.js file, you never have to be
bothered with the settings being changed on you again.


How so?  The DEFAULT behavior was changed so I don't follow your
reasoning.  If I had a  USER designated preference and I put that in a
user.js file then that wouldn't be changed with a new version of
SeaMonkey but this happened because the default behavior was changed.


Desiree, if you set a pref in a user.js file then, each time you start 
SM or FF, that pref is applied *after* the prefs.js file is read, so, 
unless the pref you set is totally disabled, SM/FF will start up with 
the pref set to default and then be set as per your user.js file.


Or something like that!!

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Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508

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Re: Password manager

2013-10-01 Thread Daniel

EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

lsq2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:57:40 PM UTC-7, Ed Mullen wrote:

Not@home wrote:


I have SeaMonkey 2.20 on a Vista machine.







For sites I don't consider vital, I have SeaMonkey remember the



passwords, and when I forget one, I open Password Manager and look
it up.







However, with the latest version of SeaMonkey, this no longer
works.  It



still acts like it is remembering the passwords, but when I go to look



one up, the Password manager option opens Data Manager, showing all
the



cookies that have been installed.







Is there a way to look up my forgotten passwords?




This might help:



chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul



Put that into your location bar and press Enter.  Then filter on the

domain in question.



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a T-shirt with bloodstains all over it, maybe your laundry isn't your

biggest problem.


Ed, why can't you read?


As I understand it, if you select the site you are trying to locate a
password for, one of the column headers will be for the Passwords for
that site.

At least, that's how it works for me!!


Preferences/Options > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Manage Stored
Passwords > choose the domain > click Show Passwords


Yeap, that'll do but I prefer Tools->Data Manager and select the site of 
interest!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508

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Re: Inbox full?

2013-10-01 Thread Philip Taylor


EE wrote:

> You should make a habit of emptying the trash after deleting messages,
> and then compacting the folders.  And do not use the inbox for storage.
>  It was not meant for that.  This page was written for Thunderbird, but
> it also applies to SeaMonkey:
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keep_it_working_%28Thunderbird%29

These may well represent good advice (the cited document states "Keep
the Inbox empty. Move new messages that you want to keep to another
folder after you've read them. This may help avoid corrupting your Inbox
folder, and will help maintain best performance.", but in
my experience neither is acually necessary.  My inbox accumulates
/all/ e-mail for the current calendar year (21628 messages to date)
and I use shift-delete when mass-deleting so my "Deleted items"
is normally virtually empty.  If, as both you and the author of
the cited article state, "Do not use the inbox for storage / Keep the
Inbox empty", then I would argue that the current behaviour of
Seamonkey is sub-optimal and it should /automatically/ move all
read items into a different folder (e.g., "Read") so that it enforces
the very principle that it enshrines.

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Re: Inbox full?

2013-10-01 Thread Ken Whiton

*-* On Mon, 30 Sep 2013, at 12:27:37 +0100,
*-* In Article 
,

*-* Connie wrote
*-* About Re: Inbox full?


References: 
<438185356-1378332811-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1773168975-@b2.c6.bise6.blackberry>



On 30/09/2013 11:28, Philip Taylor wrote:

And how exactly would the scammer gain that list of live addresses
by the simple act of Susan compacting her mailbox ?



If you go back and read the original message you will see I was
answering her other question.


 How is he supposed to "go back and read the original message"
when the original message was never posted in this newsgroup?  The
partial References: header quoted above contains the Message-ID of
the message/post you replied to to start this thread.  That message
doesn't appear in this newsgroup on this server, nor does Google
Groups find that Message-ID.

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SM 2.21 on Win7 does not prompt me for download destination anymore

2013-10-01 Thread bernard

Hello, it seems since I upgraded to v2.21 I am not being
prompted for a destination folder for my downloaded files.
If I change the preferences to always download to a fixed
directory, my downloads correctly end there. Otherwise,
I find the downloaded files lingering in my %TEMP% directory,
albeit with a .part extension...

Is anyone seeing this?
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