Re: No 2.24b2 candidates?
On 02/02/14 09:24, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote: On 31/01/2014 05:40, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 30/01/2014 02:23, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: Since it looks like 2.24b1 failed to build, will we see a 2.24b2 or just straight to 2.24? 1. Our release engineering team says 2.24 uplift is on 3rd February. 2. There may or may not be a b1 but the timing is very tight. 3. I'm very doubtful there'll be a b2 Phil And what does this lack/skipping of a stage, or two, of user testing portend for the quality of the expected product release? --Rostyk Well, whatever fixes go into Firefox go into SM. Whatever ESR fixes go into Thunderbird go into SM. I remember a while back they said SM is Well, yes and no. Fixes in shared areas with Firefox (Toolkit, Gecko) would mostly be picked up automatically. Ditto for shared code with Thunderbird (e.g. MailNews:Core)). If a feature requires some work on front end code, someone might need to porting the changes to SeaMonkey. If you know a bit of JavaScript and xhtml and CSS, you might even be able to help. And even as much as I am a hardcore/diehard SM user, I think it's a drain on your already valuable resources. Have you guys though of just killing SM off? I would be sad but even I think it's about time. The main reason I use SM is because it seems more stable---to me---than Firefox. But, you guys are trying to get a lot of metrics out of usage and crash data, etc. out of Firefox and that code is not present in SM. It's a missed opportunity if you guys keep going the way you are with SM. I used to use Eudora for Email but since the morons at Qualcomm abandoned it---even after saying they would not---I went to Thunderbird, reluctantly, and haven't looked back. I needed a little goading in the form of moving from XP to Windows 7 but it's what basically forced me to jump ship and enjoy new benefits from better apps. not going to get the same love that Firefox gets. Bit of a red-headed stepchild. Some of the newer Firefox developers who joined Mozilla in the last few years might not even know SeaMonkey exists. There's probably a reason for that. I dunno how big the SM community is but I can't imagine we're too big. Thanks for still giving us some love though. I wonder if the SM Consortium keep any stats on how many downloads there are of the various versions released each six weeks!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Watched Threads?
azed13 wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Trane Francks wrote:
On 2/2/14 8:50 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Dennis wrote:
LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by
the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key. View/Threads says
that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
Still works here.
Not here -- I can't seem to find any way to mark a thread as
watched or
ignored. Tried both here in the NG and in regular mail. SM 2.23, Win7.
WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.
So it works in Linux and Mac.
That would seem to indicate it's an SMWindowsversion issue.
(';')
Just tried it here, Windows 7 Pro SM2.23 Menu Bar Message last item
Watch thread little eye popped right up. So, it would not seem to be a
Windows problem.
Just tried exactly as you said, here in the NG, with the current thread
(view settings: messages all, threads with unread, sort by date,
ascending, threaded). Menu option had no effect, letter W had no effect.
Toggled several times, no visible change. If SM is marking the thread,
it's a secret to me.
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Re: No 2.24b2 candidates?
Trane Francks wrote: On 2/2/14 7:17 AM +0900, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote: [ much snippage ] separate apps for the functions. Email clients are becoming a dying breed but for many old-school people like me who want to port or backup all our email dating from well over a decade ago, it's nice. I Perhaps in consumer-land, yes, but e-mail clients are where the meat and potatoes of communication happen in the corporate world. There hasn't ever been a client office I've administered that only did browser-based mail. That could change someday if we ever get true broadband in this country. I've always hated and shunned webmail because it was so... bleeping... slow and cumbersome. But for now, you're right. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Re: Watched Threads?
On 2/1/2014 5:56 PM, LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key.
View/Threads says that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
After selecting a thread message,
under the Message menu on the toolbar, the last section shows:
Cancel Message (The n is underscored)
Ignore Thread K (The I is underscored)
Ignore SubthreadShift+K (The S is underscored)
Watch ThreadW (The W is underscored)
Does any of this work? (It works here.)
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SM Crashes
For a couple of months I have several SM crashes per day. Very aggravating when it happens while I am composing an email. Cannot seem to find an answer. Have taken my computer to my son and he can never get it to crash at his place he says. I have deleted "FLASH" since it has been known to cause crashes. Is there anyone who can read my crash reports to maybe give me a clue? Not sure how to send these reports out however. One reason given was LdrShutdown Process or EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_EXEC Another was just EXCEPTION_BREAKPOINT Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Watched Threads?
On Sunday, February 02, 2014 06:10:58 AM Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
azed13 wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Trane Francks wrote:
On 2/2/14 8:50 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Dennis wrote:
LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by
the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key. View/Threads
says
that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
Still works here.
Not here -- I can't seem to find any way to mark a thread as
watched or
ignored. Tried both here in the NG and in regular mail. SM 2.23,
Win7.
WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.
So it works in Linux and Mac.
That would seem to indicate it's an SMWindowsversion issue.
(';')
Just tried it here, Windows 7 Pro SM2.23 Menu Bar Message last
item
Watch thread little eye popped right up. So, it would not seem to
be a Windows problem.
Just tried exactly as you said, here in the NG, with the current
thread (view settings: messages all, threads with unread, sort by
date, ascending, threaded). Menu option had no effect, letter W had
no effect. Toggled several times, no visible change. If SM is marking
the thread, it's a secret to me.
After recent update to SeaMonkey 2.23, I also cannot see a place to mark
thread or message as watched. My version of SeaMonkey may be modified by
openSUSE?
SeaMonkey 2.23
Build ID:2013121000
Way I am doing it now is to create a Customized Tag. Then select the
message/messages to watch, right click and select the new tag under
tags. Not the best way.
Russ
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Re: Watched Threads?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
azed13 wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Trane Francks wrote:
On 2/2/14 8:50 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Dennis wrote:
LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by
the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key. View/Threads says
that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
Still works here.
Not here -- I can't seem to find any way to mark a thread as
watched or
ignored. Tried both here in the NG and in regular mail. SM 2.23,
Win7.
WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.
So it works in Linux and Mac.
That would seem to indicate it's an SMWindowsversion issue.
(';')
Just tried it here, Windows 7 Pro SM2.23 Menu Bar Message last item
Watch thread little eye popped right up. So, it would not seem to be a
Windows problem.
Just tried exactly as you said, here in the NG, with the current thread
(view settings: messages all, threads with unread, sort by date,
ascending, threaded). Menu option had no effect, letter W had no effect.
Toggled several times, no visible change. If SM is marking the thread,
it's a secret to me.
Works for me in the Mac version, but the Watch eye is only shown if I
also display Threads, which I usually don't - I usually display by Date
only.
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Re: SM Crashes
On 2/2/2014, 1:43 PM, Lee Noga wrote: For a couple of months I have several SM crashes per day. Very aggravating when it happens while I am composing an email. Cannot seem to find an answer. Have taken my computer to my son and he can never get it to crash at his place he says. I have deleted FLASH since it has been known to cause crashes. Is there anyone who can read my crash reports to maybe give me a clue? Not sure how to send these reports out however. One reason given was LdrShutdown Process or EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_EXEC Another was just EXCEPTION_BREAKPOINT Does the Mozilla Crash Reporter come up? If so, 1. Open SeaMonkey. 2. Go to Help--Troubleshooting_Information, then click on about:crashes. That should take you to a page listing your crash reports. 3. Click on your latest crash report, which should take you to a web page starting with https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/; 4. Open a reply to this post and paste the address of your latest crash report. We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a better idea of what is causing the problem. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Watched Threads?
upscope wrote:
On Sunday, February 02, 2014 06:10:58 AM Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
azed13 wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Trane Francks wrote:
On 2/2/14 8:50 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Dennis wrote:
LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by
the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key. View/Threads
says
that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
Still works here.
Not here -- I can't seem to find any way to mark a thread as
watched or
ignored. Tried both here in the NG and in regular mail. SM 2.23,
Win7.
WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.
So it works in Linux and Mac.
That would seem to indicate it's an SMWindowsversion issue.
(';')
Just tried it here, Windows 7 Pro SM2.23 Menu Bar Message last
item
Watch thread little eye popped right up. So, it would not seem to
be a Windows problem.
Just tried exactly as you said, here in the NG, with the current
thread (view settings: messages all, threads with unread, sort by
date, ascending, threaded). Menu option had no effect, letter W had
no effect. Toggled several times, no visible change. If SM is marking
the thread, it's a secret to me.
After recent update to SeaMonkey 2.23, I also cannot see a place to mark
thread or message as watched. My version of SeaMonkey may be modified by
openSUSE?
SeaMonkey 2.23
Build ID:2013121000
Way I am doing it now is to create a Customized Tag. Then select the
message/messages to watch, right click and select the new tag under
tags. Not the best way.
Russ
Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop
openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (i586)
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23
Build identifier: 2013121000
(from the openSuse repository)
Watched thread still works for me with the 'eye' icon showing in the
thread column.
Dennis
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Re: Watched Threads?
Tom S. wrote:
On 2/1/2014 5:56 PM, LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key.
View/Threads says that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
After selecting a thread message,
under the Message menu on the toolbar, the last section shows:
Cancel Message (The n is underscored)
Ignore Thread K (The I is underscored)
Ignore SubthreadShift+K (The S is underscored)
Watch ThreadW (The W is underscored)
Does any of this work? (It works here.)
Thank you, Tom, but None of those work for me. SM 2.17.1
(';')
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Re: Watched Threads?
LnrB wrote:
Tom S. wrote:
On 2/1/2014 5:56 PM, LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key.
View/Threads says that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
After selecting a thread message,
under the Message menu on the toolbar, the last section shows:
Cancel Message(The n is underscored)
Ignore Thread K(The I is underscored)
Ignore Subthread Shift+K(The S is underscored)
Watch Thread W(The W is underscored)
Does any of this work? (It works here.)
Thank you, Tom, but None of those work for me. SM 2.17.1
(';')
Which theme do you use?
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Re: Watched Threads?
JAS wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Tom S. wrote:
On 2/1/2014 5:56 PM, LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key.
View/Threads says that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
After selecting a thread message,
under the Message menu on the toolbar, the last section shows:
Cancel Message(The n is underscored)
Ignore Thread K(The I is underscored)
Ignore Subthread Shift+K(The S is underscored)
Watch Thread W(The W is underscored)
Does any of this work? (It works here.)
Thank you, Tom, but None of those work for me. SM 2.17.1
(';')
Which theme do you use?
Modern Theme.
(';')
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Re: Watched Threads?
LnrB wrote:
JAS wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Tom S. wrote:
On 2/1/2014 5:56 PM, LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key.
View/Threads says that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
After selecting a thread message,
under the Message menu on the toolbar, the last section shows:
Cancel Message(The n is underscored)
Ignore Thread K(The I is underscored)
Ignore Subthread Shift+K(The S is underscored)
Watch Thread W(The W is underscored)
Does any of this work? (It works here.)
Thank you, Tom, but None of those work for me. SM 2.17.1
(';')
Which theme do you use?
Modern Theme.
(';')
OK, it sometimes makes a difference as some of the themes are not
compatiable with everything but Modern should be. I yse Mostly Crystal
and mine shows using SM 2.23 and windows XP PRO
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Re: Watched Threads?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
azed13 wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Trane Francks wrote:
On 2/2/14 8:50 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Dennis wrote:
LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by
the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key. View/Threads says
that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
Still works here.
Not here -- I can't seem to find any way to mark a thread as
watched or
ignored. Tried both here in the NG and in regular mail. SM 2.23,
Win7.
WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.
So it works in Linux and Mac.
That would seem to indicate it's an SMWindowsversion issue.
(';')
Just tried it here, Windows 7 Pro SM2.23 Menu Bar Message last item
Watch thread little eye popped right up. So, it would not seem to be a
Windows problem.
Just tried exactly as you said, here in the NG, with the current
thread (view settings: messages all, threads with unread, sort by
date, ascending, threaded). Menu option had no effect, letter W had no
effect. Toggled several times, no visible change. If SM is marking the
thread, it's a secret to me.
I should have added that the w lc key toggles the eye on and off for
me, the i key lc or uc and uc W have no effect. since I rarely use
this function I don't know if that is normal or not. I'm a little
confused, the Watch Thread option is under Message on the menu bar not
under View. Perhaps I misunderstood your reply.
azed13
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Re: Watched Threads?
On 2/3/14 3:18 PM +0900, azed13 wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
azed13 wrote:
LnrB wrote:
Trane Francks wrote:
On 2/2/14 8:50 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Dennis wrote:
LnrB wrote:
What happened to the little eye that used to indicate watched
threads?
When I was more active I used that quite a lot. It used to be
set by
the 'W' key, and ignored threads by the 'I' key. View/Threads says
that's how it's still supposed to be.
I can't make mine work. Bug?
(';')
Still works here.
Not here -- I can't seem to find any way to mark a thread as
watched or
ignored. Tried both here in the NG and in regular mail. SM 2.23,
Win7.
WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.
So it works in Linux and Mac.
That would seem to indicate it's an SMWindowsversion issue.
(';')
Just tried it here, Windows 7 Pro SM2.23 Menu Bar Message last item
Watch thread little eye popped right up. So, it would not seem to be a
Windows problem.
Just tried exactly as you said, here in the NG, with the current
thread (view settings: messages all, threads with unread, sort by
date, ascending, threaded). Menu option had no effect, letter W had no
effect. Toggled several times, no visible change. If SM is marking the
thread, it's a secret to me.
I should have added that the w lc key toggles the eye on and off for
me, the i key lc or uc and uc W have no effect. since I rarely use
this function I don't know if that is normal or not. I'm a little
confused, the Watch Thread option is under Message on the menu bar not
under View. Perhaps I misunderstood your reply.
azed13
Don't confuse Shift-w with an uppercase W. In the world of key-press
parsing, Shift-w is not key-code equivalent to an uppercase W. If you
turn on caps lock, I think you'll find that pressing w works just fine.
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