Re: promises

[Frosted Flake]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/22/2014 1:15 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:

"Promises have been enabled by default." in latest release.

WHAT are "promises"???



See
.
  I read it and still do not understand it.  Maybe you will do better.

I did not understand it either.  Since it is so obscure, perhaps, in the 
release notes, there should be a (very) large information box with 
instructions to disable promises.

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Re: how to delete list of recent URLs visited? P.S. Now Recycle bin Items Are Hidden

[Mort]

Hi,

I do not know if this is connected with my recent problem, but I hope 
not. Now, when I click onto my Recycle Bin, there are no icons to 
indicate the items that are in the bin. When I click onto Empty Recycle 
Bin, then I get a message about deleting x items, X = the number of 
items there. With no name and no icon, I no longer know what items are 
in fact in the recycle bin. I did not stop recycle bin history when I 
reset my PC, just the history in the tool bar.


Any help would be greatly appreciated, again.

Mort Linder


Mort wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/12/2014 7:45 AM, Mort wrote:

Hi,

I'm running the latest iteration of SM, with Windows XP and 7 , on
separate PCs. To the right of the upper toolbar is a small icon which,
when clicked on, shows a dropdown list of recently visited URLs. How can
I delete that list after I am done with it?

Thanks.

Mort Linder



1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select [Privacy &
Security > Private Data].

3,  On the Private Data pane, check the checkbox for "Location Bar
History" (along with any of the other checkboxes you want).

4.  If you always want the history cleared when you termminate
SeaMonkey, also check the checkbox for "Always clear my private data
when I close SeaMonkey" on the Private Data pane.

5.  If you want the data cleared immediately, select the Clear Now
button on the Private Data pane.

NOTE WELL:  "Private data" consists only of those items for which you
already checked checkboxes on the Private Data pane below "When I ask
SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:".



Hi David,

It worked beautifully,and I thank you very much. Like many things in
life, it seems easy when you know how. I am so glad that you know how,
and were kind enough to tell me.

Regards,

Mort Linder


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Re: Sync Problem

[WaltS48]

John T Nichols wrote:

When I try to set up sync in the Account Details window as soon as I
type the first letter of my e-mail address I get an "Invalid email
address" message and nothing else will work. Filling in an e-mail
address does nothing, i.e. if I continue I never get an active
"Continue  button.



Why doesn't anybody read *Release Notes*?

*Known Issue*

You cannot set up a new Sync account or pair a device anymore (bug 
998807). Workaround: Use an older version of SeaMonkey for such tasks 
for now.



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Re: Modern Theme

[WaltS48]

Rufus wrote:

EE wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?


Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars.



...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one.

Now I'm *really* suspicious...




They do if installed as a separate extension when installing the theme.

Nobody noticed they were installing two add-ons?

Looking at the  Metal Lion Silver Sea Monkey theme I see an extension 
called Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Scrollbars that comes with the 
theme. Same for the Sea Monkey Metal Lion theme called Metal Lion Sea 
Monkey Scrollbars II.


I like the Silver theme best.

Check your extensions and remove the scrollbar extension.

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Re: SM often asks for email password

[question]

Rob wrote:

flyguy  wrote:

We've been using SM (now ver. 2.26) for years on two desktop WinXP
computers. The last couple of weeks, it's begun asking for our email
password about 30% of the time, both computers. Typing in the password
we've been using for many years gets the mail sent most of the time;
sometimes, though, it will ask repeatedly, and we have to close the
email we are trying to send and start over.

Any idea why it would be doing that?

(yes, I'm the guy that's also having problems with email sending
timeouts, but I don't know if the problems are related)


They probably are.   When your mail server returns error codes the
program will ask you to reconfirm your password.

Check if there are mail problems at your provider.

The latest seamonkey update .. started asking me for my password when i 
try to send e-mail...  No settings have changed since Netscape Version 1 
( I still have the floppy disk it came on )


 This is a seamonkey problem.

Mailwasher has no problems accessing my Smtp outgoing server .


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Re: Modern Theme

[PhillipJones]

PhillipJones wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:



 Original Message 


Ed Mullen pounded out :

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?



Hmm.  Made a new profile.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.
Obviously installing those themes changed something.  And it didn't go
away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager.

Closed SM.  Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile.  Started
SM.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.

I find that pretty strange.


The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension.
Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully.

what is the name of this extension.
Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?)



I Found it was extension for that new Theme. I removed the theme and the 
extension and back to normal.


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Sync Problem

[John T Nichols]

When I try to set up sync in the Account Details window as soon as I 
type the first letter of my e-mail address I get an "Invalid email 
address" message and nothing else will work. Filling in an e-mail 
address does nothing, i.e. if I continue I never get an active 
"Continue  button.

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Re: Modern Theme

[PhillipJones]

Roger Fink wrote:



 Original Message 


Ed Mullen pounded out :

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?



Hmm.  Made a new profile.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.
Obviously installing those themes changed something.  And it didn't go
away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager.

Closed SM.  Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile.  Started
SM.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.

I find that pretty strange.


The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension.
Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully.

what is the name of this extension.
Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?)

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Re: promises

[David E. Ross]

On 6/22/2014 1:15 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:
> "Promises have been enabled by default." in latest release.
> 
> WHAT are "promises"???
> 

See
.
 I read it and still do not understand it.  Maybe you will do better.

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Re: Modern Theme

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 


Ed Mullen pounded out :

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?



Hmm.  Made a new profile.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.
Obviously installing those themes changed something.  And it didn't go
away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager.

Closed SM.  Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile.  Started
SM.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.

I find that pretty strange.

The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension. 
Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully.

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Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

[Geoff Welsh]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 6/22/14 12:33 PM +0900, Larry S. wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Geoff Welsh pounded out :

Larry S. wrote:

Some time ago my credit union started a process whereby I could
deposit
checks into my account by scanning (which was good, since I live 500
miles away).

Worked great for a year and a half (over two dozen checks). Then along
came SM 2.26. Ever since then the scanning process fails. Here's the
procedure (a bit simplified):

--Call up the deposit s/w; it starts.
--Answer questions about the account and the check.
--Place check on scanner.
--Click on "Scan front of check".

And that where it ends. Scanning never starts.



where in that procedure is SeaMonkey involved?

GW



Exactly. I'm not sure from the description how SM is involved.

However, the it does beg the description question: Does it still work
with an older version of SM???

Also, does it work if you create a new profile in SM and use that?


Thank you for your interest.

How is SM involved? See reply to Goeff Welsh.

It did work with previous versions, for a year and a half. Could I
revert to pre-2.26? Suppose so, but I like to keep up to date, for the
same reason that there are updates. It's just that when something works
for a long period, and then stops, it's my nature to find out why. I can
always revert to mailing in checks, a loss of useful function but a
relatively minor one.

No difference with a new profile.

Larry S.


You can easily download an older version, e.g., 2.25 from the bottom of
this page: . Once you
have downloaded a version that you know worked, uninstall the version
you're running now and install the older version. If it works, you know
that SM 2.26+ is a problem. If it doesn't work, it indicates that
something else is the likely culprit and that the upgrade of SeaMonkey
is merely a correlation rather than causation.

When it comes to this sort of thing, it can be changes on the server
side, updates to Windows, your anti-virus/anti-malware or any number of
other things that can get in the way.



agreed;

 once you call up the OS to start other software there are too many 
other possibilities,  You have to actually prove/disprove its a SM issue 
by doing like Trane says.


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promises

[Rick Merrill]

"Promises have been enabled by default." in latest release.

WHAT are "promises"???

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Re: Large Files In Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 6/22/2014 10:24 AM, EE wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 6/21/2014 10:34 AM, EE wrote:
>>> NoOp wrote:
 Or no way to effectively clear site preferences:
 
 Add Site Preferences option to Clear Private Data (clear stored domain
 settings)


>>> Why would you want to clear site permissions?  You would be clearing all
>>> the exceptions to permissions (such as cookies, passwords, popups,
>>> permission to install addons) at one go.  I cannot see anyone wanting to
>>> do that.
>>>
>>
>> I would do that if the site's domain changed, invalidating all the
>> domain-specific (site-specific) permissions.
>>
> But that would affect all sites for which you have exceptions, not just one.
> 

I read the bug report and this discussion to address site-specific
deletion, not a global deletion the data over all sites.

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Re: Modern Theme

[Rufus]

EE wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?


Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars.



...but they shouldn't persist once you change the Theme to another one.

Now I'm *really* suspicious...

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Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

[Rufus]

Larry S. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Some time ago my credit union started a process whereby I could
deposit
checks into my account by scanning (which was good, since I live 500
miles away).

Worked great for a year and a half (over two dozen checks). Then along
came SM 2.26. Ever since then the scanning process fails. Here's the
procedure (a bit simplified):

--Call up the deposit s/w; it starts.
--Answer questions about the account and the check.
--Place check on scanner.
--Click on "Scan front of check".

And that where it ends. Scanning never starts.



where in that procedure is SeaMonkey involved?

GW


SM is the way I access the credit union site, through which I then
access the scanning s/w. Nothing changed in the sequence except that I
upgraded SM to 2.26.

Larry S.


Basically what the site is doing is web-enabling your scanner, similar
to the phone apps that allow you to take a picture of a check and
deposit it...I've wondered how and when they'd get around to doing this
via computer.  Either a cache has gotten hung someplace or SM has
suddenly gone unsupported by the bank software.

What I'd suggest is to try physically disconnecting and reconnecting
your scanner - try it without and with SM launched and see what happens.

You might also try spoofing the older SM 2.26 UA string and see if it
works with that.


Thank you for your idea. I cleared the cache and did the
disconnect/connect suggestion, and it seems to have worked. (Don't know
why, but these things are mostly mysterious magic.) We'll see if it
holds up, but so far so good!

Larry S.



Glad it helped!

You may find you need to do this after every update now...keep it in 
mind if the problem crops up again.


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Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

[Larry S.]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 06/21/2014 04:58 PM, Larry S. wrote:

Some time ago my credit union started a process whereby I could deposit
checks into my account by scanning (which was good, since I live 500
miles away).

Worked great for a year and a half (over two dozen checks). Then along
came SM 2.26. Ever since then the scanning process fails. Here's the
procedure (a bit simplified):

--Call up the deposit s/w; it starts.
--Answer questions about the account and the check.
--Place check on scanner.
--Click on "Scan front of check".

And that where it ends. Scanning never starts.

Prior to SM 2.26, scanning proceeded, then verification, then receipt.

So, the question is what changed with SM 2.26 that could cause this?
The scanner and scanning s/w didn't change. The scanner is Canon MG 5320
and meets all the requirements for the process. Of course, it involves
s/w so the support people say "we don't work with that particular
scanner", but they did for a year and a half. (Oh, yes, the scanner
works perfectly for any other purpose.)

Sorry for the long story. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Larry S.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 (just updated)




Have you tried SeaMonkey in safe mode?

[Safe Mode - MozillaZine Knowledge
Base](http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode)


Good thought! I'll give it a try.

Thank you!
Larry S.
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Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

[Larry S.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/21/2014 7:32 PM, Larry S. wrote:

SM is the way I access the credit union site, through which I then
access the scanning s/w. Nothing changed in the sequence except that I
upgraded SM to 2.26.

Larry S.



Is "Advertise Firefox compatibility" enabled or disabled?

Enabled.

Also, have you contacted the credit union to ask if they might have
recently changed the software at their end?
	Yes, and they supposedly checked, then said that they'd made no changes 
and the scanner I'd been using successfully for over a year and a half 
actually wasn't supported by them. (It meets all their requirements.) 
Oh, really? (The scanner support people laughed at that, and said it's 
ridiculous.)




Thank you for your thoughts.
Larry S.

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Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

[Larry S.]

Rufus wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Some time ago my credit union started a process whereby I could deposit
checks into my account by scanning (which was good, since I live 500
miles away).

Worked great for a year and a half (over two dozen checks). Then along
came SM 2.26. Ever since then the scanning process fails. Here's the
procedure (a bit simplified):

--Call up the deposit s/w; it starts.
--Answer questions about the account and the check.
--Place check on scanner.
--Click on "Scan front of check".

And that where it ends. Scanning never starts.



where in that procedure is SeaMonkey involved?

GW


SM is the way I access the credit union site, through which I then
access the scanning s/w. Nothing changed in the sequence except that I
upgraded SM to 2.26.

Larry S.


Basically what the site is doing is web-enabling your scanner, similar
to the phone apps that allow you to take a picture of a check and
deposit it...I've wondered how and when they'd get around to doing this
via computer.  Either a cache has gotten hung someplace or SM has
suddenly gone unsupported by the bank software.

What I'd suggest is to try physically disconnecting and reconnecting
your scanner - try it without and with SM launched and see what happens.

You might also try spoofing the older SM 2.26 UA string and see if it
works with that.

Thank you for your idea. I cleared the cache and did the 
disconnect/connect suggestion, and it seems to have worked. (Don't know 
why, but these things are mostly mysterious magic.) We'll see if it 
holds up, but so far so good!


Larry S.
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Re: Modern Theme

[EE]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?


Themes do change scrollbars as well as toolbars.

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Re: Large Files In Profile

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/21/2014 10:34 AM, EE wrote:

NoOp wrote:

Or no way to effectively clear site preferences:

Add Site Preferences option to Clear Private Data (clear stored domain
settings)



Why would you want to clear site permissions?  You would be clearing all
the exceptions to permissions (such as cookies, passwords, popups,
permission to install addons) at one go.  I cannot see anyone wanting to
do that.



I would do that if the site's domain changed, invalidating all the
domain-specific (site-specific) permissions.


But that would affect all sites for which you have exceptions, not just one.

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Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

[WaltS48]

On 06/21/2014 04:58 PM, Larry S. wrote:

Some time ago my credit union started a process whereby I could deposit
checks into my account by scanning (which was good, since I live 500
miles away).

Worked great for a year and a half (over two dozen checks). Then along
came SM 2.26. Ever since then the scanning process fails. Here's the
procedure (a bit simplified):

--Call up the deposit s/w; it starts.
--Answer questions about the account and the check.
--Place check on scanner.
--Click on "Scan front of check".

And that where it ends. Scanning never starts.

Prior to SM 2.26, scanning proceeded, then verification, then receipt.

So, the question is what changed with SM 2.26 that could cause this?
The scanner and scanning s/w didn't change. The scanner is Canon MG 5320
and meets all the requirements for the process. Of course, it involves
s/w so the support people say "we don't work with that particular
scanner", but they did for a year and a half. (Oh, yes, the scanner
works perfectly for any other purpose.)

Sorry for the long story. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Larry S.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 (just updated)




Have you tried SeaMonkey in safe mode?

[Safe Mode - MozillaZine Knowledge 
Base](http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode)


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