Re: Message Filters

2014-09-26 Thread BIll Spikowski





Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able
to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided by
Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
definitions, not the filter log.

I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the message
datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor ~/home/Mozilla.


I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named filterlog.html.

It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the SQLite 
Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?
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Re: Message Filters

2014-09-26 Thread upscope
On Friday, September 26, 2014 10:42:36 AM BIll Spikowski wrote:
  Bill Spikowski wrote:
  Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be
  able
  to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided
  by
  Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.
  
  I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
  definitions, not the filter log.
  
  I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the
  message datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor
  ~/home/Mozilla.
 I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named filterlog.html.
 
 It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the
 SQLite Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?
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Maybe if you can set it up and import it into an sqlite database. I use 
MySQL so I'm not sure of SQLite's capabilities.
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Re: Message Filters

2014-09-26 Thread NFN Smith

BIll Spikowski wrote:


On that one, a guess would be that you may have set configs for sent mail to 
write copies to the Junk folder.

Normally, you want the defaults for that, although when I'm working from a 
profile that's not my primary one (e.g. on another machine), I'll set that profile 
to write sent messages to my inbox.  That way, when I next work from my normal 
connection (which is POP), I have a copy of the original message that I can put in 
my normal filing system.

That's not it for my situation; the messages from me that get routed to junk 
were sent from my phone, or from a different computer.

I found the filter log, conveniently named 'filterlog.html' -- but I haven't 
been able to locate what's causing this behavior. Perhaps it's something in the 
junk filtering system, rather than my customized message filters.



Each individual profile has its own auto-learn junk filter.

Thus, if you are creating messages on your phone, and they get 
classified as junk on your primary working computer, the thing to do is 
to make sure that everything that's getting designated as Junk on the 
computer gets explicitly marked as Not Junk (using shift-J).


For stuff that you've created, there's enough similarities of messages 
that it should take designating only a couple as Not Junk for the filter 
to recognize that your stuff isn't Junk.


If you have several profiles, you'll need to do this exercise on each 
profile.


Smith

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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 80

2014-09-26 Thread NFN Smith

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


BTW, when replying to digest emails it's easier for others to follow and
see what you're replying to if you:
1. Change the subject line from Re: support-seamonkey Digest... to
Re: the topic you're replying to
2. Delete the other topics from your reply, so only the part you're
replying to remains.


For me, reading Tim's response from a newsreader (Seamonkey), I've 
noticed that all of his responses are turning up as new threads 
(including that the subject line is showing the digest name, rather than 
the original subject).  Seeing headers of a previous message quoted in a 
response leads me to believe that he's replying to messages by 
forwarding a previously-posted message and then top-posting his response.


For Tim:

It's not necessarily a problem that you're using OE, but you need to be 
using Reply, rather than forward.  And as noted, make sure that your 
subject line is relevant to the topic, and not the name of the digest.


Also, please be aware that this is one of the places where top-posting 
is strongly discouraged. For what you have to contribute, put your 
contributions *below* quoted material (and delete stuff that's not 
relevant to what you have to say).


Be aware that subscribing to a reasonably active group using digest mode 
may be a good way of keeping your inbox from being overwhelmed (i.e., 
rather than getting each individual contribution separately), it's 
doesn't make things easy, if you want to contribute, especially if you 
want to respond to other postings.


There's actually several ways of getting mozilla.support.seamonkey. 
Email subscription (whether individual messages or digests) is one. 
Google Groups another.


A third methodology (and I think, used by many here) is via NNTP News, 
where you set a news client to get content from news.mozilla.org (using 
port 119).  Both Seamonkey and Outlook Express include news clients. 
Thus, if you're using OE for mail, it's not difficult to set up OE to 
get traffic from the mozilla news server, as news.


You may also want to take a look at the Mozilla forums page 
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/.  You may also want to take 
a look at the Netiquette page 
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/etiquette/, particularly the 
points about Trim your posting and Top-posting vs bottom-posting..


Smith
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Re: Message Filters

2014-09-26 Thread Ed Mullen

BIll Spikowski wrote:





Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be able
to review it somewhere more convenient than the window provided by
Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.

I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the filter
definitions, not the filter log.

I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the message
datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor ~/home/Mozilla.


I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named filterlog.html.

It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the
SQLite Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?


Clicking on it will open it in your browser: That's what HTML files are.

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Re: Auto Update

2014-09-26 Thread Pololo



 Original Message 
*Subject: *Re: Auto Update
*From: *Mike C rp...@earthlink.net
*To: *
*Date: *Fri Sep 26 2014 01:38:34 GMT+0200 (CEST)

Ed Mullen wrote:

EE wrote:

Mike C wrote:

EE wrote:

stan wrote:

How can I suppress Auto Update for SM?

The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26

-Stan


I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them.  The
address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to 
get

email addresses, and open a compose window from there. The bookmark
backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can
import them.

To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and
change these settings:
app.update.auto - false
app.update.enabled - false
app.update.silent - false


The only bug I see is the address book isn't alphabetical.
Has anyone figured out how to correct it?


Use it in the sidebar.  That is sorted correctly.



Click the email column to sort by that.  Then click the Name column.

No idea how this got screwed up in an update.


Hey Ed,
Thanks for the post.
BUT Clicking name at top of column doesn't fix it.

However... If I sort by email column AND THEN resort by name it goes 
correct.


BUT... the next time address book is opened it's back to being 
incorrect.  (This is with both 2.29 and 2.29.1)


I am aware that if I go back to 2.26 all will be well again.
Not important enough to do that.  It's not so serious, just inconvenient.



For this issue and Gosthery unsupport in SM 2.29, I back to SM 2.26.1


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Re: Message Filters

2014-09-26 Thread BIll Spikowski

NFN Smith wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

On that one, a guess would be that you may have set configs for sent mail to 
write copies to the Junk folder.

That's not it for my situation; the messages from me that get routed to junk 
were sent from my phone, or from a different computer.

I found the filter log, conveniently named 'filterlog.html' -- but I haven't 
been able to locate what's causing this behavior. Perhaps it's something in the 
junk filtering system, rather than my customized message filters.


Each individual profile has its own auto-learn junk filter.

Thus, if you are creating messages on your phone, and they get classified as 
junk on your primary working computer, the thing to do is to make sure that 
everything that's getting designated as Junk on the computer gets explicitly 
marked as Not Junk (using shift-J).

For stuff that you've created, there's enough similarities of messages that it 
should take designating only a couple as Not Junk for the filter to recognize 
that your stuff isn't Junk.


YES -- that sounds like it should fix my situation with very little effort -- 
I'll try it!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-26 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/25/2014 12:29 PM, NoOp wrote:

Seems to have been released... from the RSS feed:

 As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process,
SeaMonkey 2.29.1 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free
download from www.seamonkey-project.org.

We recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest release.

For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey
2.29 Release Notes. 

Why no notice here, or on the dev list?


Because it was a draining effort on all of us, we were planning on doing 
an announce here, but you beat me to it (thank you).



Also wondering where the official 64 bit linux version is -
particularly since new linux64 build hosts were added (yes, I'm aware
that they had a firmware issue earlier in the month -
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058385).



Primarily due to us still needing to catchup infra wise, you'll notice 
no 2.30 Beta is out yet, much to my dismay (We're hung up on windows 
issues atm)


So I'm trying not to change too much of our release process while we 
devote time to fixing the broken, rather than improving the not.


~Justin Wood (Callek)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-26 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/25/2014 2:21 PM, stan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

Seems to have been released... from the RSS feed:

 As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process,
SeaMonkey 2.29.1 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free
download from www.seamonkey-project.org.

We recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest release.

For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey
2.29 Release Notes. 

Why no notice here, or on the dev list?

Also wondering where the official 64 bit linux version is -
particularly since new linux64 build hosts were added (yes, I'm aware
that they had a firmware issue earlier in the month -
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058385).


Unfortunately no fixes for me.
It still crashes on password manager and to log to this forum.
I have not tried any further.

It looks like SM2.61 will be my version for long time.
-Stan


Do you know of bugs for these issues?

I at least did skim the bugs that had patches [and fixed on trunk code] 
and looked for any that were safe to take in this release, and I don't 
recall seeing either of these.


~Justin Wood (Callek)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-26 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/25/2014 3:57 PM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/25/2014 9:29 AM, NoOp wrote:

Seems to have been released... from the RSS feed:

 As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process,
SeaMonkey 2.29.1 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free
download from www.seamonkey-project.org.

We recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest release.

For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey
2.29 Release Notes. 

Why no notice here, or on the dev list?

Also wondering where the official 64 bit linux version is -
particularly since new linux64 build hosts were added (yes, I'm aware
that they had a firmware issue earlier in the month -
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058385).



This update implemented a fix to a security vulnerability in NSS, the
component that handles the use of security certificates.  I cannot find
a bug report for the problem.


No fix for the address book bug nor for the failure to restore bookmark
backups.  I guess we have to wait for 2.30.



Which address book bug (bug #?) and I don't recall seeing a mention here 
or in bug form about the bookmark backup issue. Can you please provide a 
pointer so we can try and make sure the fixes are in 2.30 if possible?


~Justin Wood (Callek)
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Delete function not working

2014-09-26 Thread matt
I can not delete messages from my inbox. They only change status to read 
after attempting to delete them.  This started as I was deleting messages one 
by one.  It was working, then encountered this issue.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-26 Thread Norman Fuchs

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 9/25/2014 12:29 PM, NoOp wrote:

Seems to have been released... from the RSS feed:

 As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process,
SeaMonkey 2.29.1 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free
download from www.seamonkey-project.org.

We recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest release.

For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey
2.29 Release Notes. 

Why no notice here, or on the dev list?


Because it was a draining effort on all of us, we were planning on doing
an announce here, but you beat me to it (thank you).


Also wondering where the official 64 bit linux version is -
particularly since new linux64 build hosts were added (yes, I'm aware
that they had a firmware issue earlier in the month -
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058385).



Primarily due to us still needing to catchup infra wise, you'll notice
no 2.30 Beta is out yet, much to my dismay (We're hung up on windows
issues atm)

So I'm trying not to change too much of our release process while we
devote time to fixing the broken, rather than improving the not.

~Justin Wood (Callek)


I appreciate all the work done by the developers, but I will stay with 
2.25 until the sync bug (998807) is fixed.  Looks like that will be a 
long time.


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mail recovery

2014-09-26 Thread Smiles
I backup my computer users Dir daily but had a mishap when updating my 
SeaMonkey from 2.26 to 2.9 i only keep two weeks of backup and one from 
2 months this ile has the same structure when used just has less mail


I have lost years of email
but do not see thins in my backups

when i went back to 2.26 i lost my sub-folders in four folders plus the 
sent folder


how are sub-folders stored

i do not understand were i failed on my backup
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Re: mail recovery

2014-09-26 Thread Ray Davison

Smiles wrote:

I backup my computer users Dir daily but had a mishap when updating my




how are sub-folders stored


Folders are files.  Sub-folders are files in sub-directories.  You can 
do file management on them when Mozilla is not running.


i do not understand were i failed on my backup


Put profiles and mail on a data partition where the Mozilla install 
executable cannot find them, and point to them.


Ray




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Re: mail recovery

2014-09-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Smiles wrote:


I backup my computer users Dir daily but had a mishap when updating my
SeaMonkey from 2.26 to 2.9 i only keep two weeks of backup and one from
2 months this ile has the same structure when used just has less mail

I have lost years of email
but do not see thins in my backups

when i went back to 2.26 i lost my sub-folders in four folders plus the
sent folder

how are sub-folders stored

i do not understand were i failed on my backup


Best practice is to back up the entire Mozilla folder, not to pick and 
choose certain files or folders. Better to have more than you need than 
to have less than you need.


As for the file structure:

1) What you see inside SM as a folder that has no subfolders (e.g., 
Inbox, which has no subfolders on my system) looks like this:


C:\Users\Your Windows User 
Name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\Mail\Account 
Name\Inbox


where  is a random eight-character alphanumeric string that 
varies from installation to installation and Account Name is some 
distinctive string that allows SM (and you) to recognize which account 
you're dealing with.


(This is for a Windows 7 system; the path above \Mozilla\
will be somewhat different on other operating systems.)

So in Windows Explorer, Inbox is just a plain file, with no 
three-letter extension, and not a Windows folder even though it 
functions as a folder inside SM. There will also be a file Inbox.msf, 
but it's not important to back it up; it's just an index file.


2) What you see inside SM as a folder that does have subfolders (let's 
use Sent as an example) looks like this:


C:\Users\Your Windows User 
Name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\Mail\Account 
Name\Sent.sbd\


where Sent is the folder name you see in SeaMonkey and \Sent.sbd\ is 
a folder in Windows Explorer. There will also be a corresponding index 
file Sent.msf (not a folder), and again it's not important to back 
that up.


Under the \Sent.sbd\ folder in Windows Explorer, you'll see the names of 
any subfolders it contains (let's say, 2012 and 2013), with the same 
organization and names as the ones you see in SM. If those have 
subfolders, they'll have the .sbd extension, but if not, they'll have no 
extension.


Thus, the Windows Explorer files for our example look like this:

...\Index
...\Index.msf
...\Sent.sbd\
...\Sent.msf
...\Sent.sbd\2013
...\Sent.sbd\2013.msf
...\Sent.sbd\2012
...\Sent.sbd\2012.msf

Or in tree format:
...\Index
...\Index.msf
...\Sent.msf
...\Sent.sbd\
└─2012
└─2012.msf
└─2013
└─2013.msf

HTH

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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

2014-09-26 Thread Tim Applegarth
This is my third attempt to get help with this bug issue in Seamonkey.
Who is it that actually writes these update codes in an attempt to improve 
it, but sometimes just makes things worse?  They are the ones I need to 
respond, please, and thank you.  I will repeat the description of the bug issue 
below.
{When I try to access a secure page, which requires a user name and password, I 
only get a partial page.  There is a data entry bar for the user name, but 
nothing else; not even a button for executing the entry, or continuing, or 
next or anything.
I can't proceed any further at all.  With no password option, I can't access my 
online financial accounts.  Seamonkey is now useless to me and I will have to 
change to another browser.  This means all my bookmarks will have to be 
re-established in another browser; very time consuming; not to mention some web 
sites will not recognize the new browser, and I will have to wade through all 
kinds of procedure to get everything back.}
Tim 

- Original Message - 
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To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:00 PM
Subject: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89


 Send support-seamonkey mailing list submissions to
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   2. Re: Message Filters (Ed Mullen)
   3. Re: Auto Update (Pololo)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:52:09 -0700
 From: NFN Smith worldoff9...@mail.com
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Subject: Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 80
 Message-ID: mfodnqqtw7u2frjjnz2dnuu7-l-dn...@mozilla.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
 
 BTW, when replying to digest emails it's easier for others to follow and
 see what you're replying to if you:
 1. Change the subject line from Re: support-seamonkey Digest... to
 Re: the topic you're replying to
 2. Delete the other topics from your reply, so only the part you're
 replying to remains.
 
 For me, reading Tim's response from a newsreader (Seamonkey), I've 
 noticed that all of his responses are turning up as new threads 
 (including that the subject line is showing the digest name, rather than 
 the original subject).  Seeing headers of a previous message quoted in a 
 response leads me to believe that he's replying to messages by 
 forwarding a previously-posted message and then top-posting his response.
 
 For Tim:
 
 It's not necessarily a problem that you're using OE, but you need to be 
 using Reply, rather than forward.  And as noted, make sure that your 
 subject line is relevant to the topic, and not the name of the digest.
 
 Also, please be aware that this is one of the places where top-posting 
 is strongly discouraged. For what you have to contribute, put your 
 contributions *below* quoted material (and delete stuff that's not 
 relevant to what you have to say).
 
 Be aware that subscribing to a reasonably active group using digest mode 
 may be a good way of keeping your inbox from being overwhelmed (i.e., 
 rather than getting each individual contribution separately), it's 
 doesn't make things easy, if you want to contribute, especially if you 
 want to respond to other postings.
 
 There's actually several ways of getting mozilla.support.seamonkey. 
 Email subscription (whether individual messages or digests) is one. 
 Google Groups another.
 
 A third methodology (and I think, used by many here) is via NNTP News, 
 where you set a news client to get content from news.mozilla.org (using 
 port 119).  Both Seamonkey and Outlook Express include news clients. 
 Thus, if you're using OE for mail, it's not difficult to set up OE to 
 get traffic from the mozilla news server, as news.
 
 You may also want to take a look at the Mozilla forums page 
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/.  You may also want to take 
 a look at the Netiquette page 
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/etiquette/, particularly the 
 points about Trim your posting and Top-posting vs bottom-posting..
 
 Smith
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:39:26 -0500
 From: Ed Mullen ejevo...@edmullen.net
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Subject: Re: Message Filters
 Message-ID: op6dnbk2_u5mobjjnz2dnuu7-bodn...@mozilla.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; 

Re: Message Filters

2014-09-26 Thread Philip Chee
On 26/09/2014 22:42, BIll Spikowski wrote:
 
 
 Bill Spikowski wrote:
 Does anyone know where the log file is stored? I'd like to be
 able to review it somewhere more convenient than the window
 provided by Seamonkey, and be able to search the log file.
 
 I've found msgFilterRules.dat, but all I see there is the
 filter definitions, not the filter log.
 I think you need to install the SQLite Manager and then find the
 message datbase under the SeaMonkey user profile in yor
 ~/home/Mozilla.
 
 I finally found the filter log file -- in a file named
 filterlog.html.
 
 It's a plain text file that I can view in a text editor; would the
 SQLite Manage be able to view and manipulate this file?

No SQLite Manager only manages SQLite files. A HTML file is manifestly
not SQLite.

Phil

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Re: issue 89 still not resolved--and proper procedure using the list.

2014-09-26 Thread Tim Applegarth

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 Today's Topics:
 
   1. Re: Message Filters (BIll Spikowski)
   2. Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1 (Justin Wood (Callek))
   3. Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1 (Justin Wood (Callek))
   4. Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1 (Justin Wood (Callek))
   5. Delete function not working (m...@friendlynatives.com)
   6. Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1 (Norman Fuchs)
   7. mail recovery (Smiles)
   8. Re: mail recovery (Ray Davison)
   9. Re: mail recovery (Paul B. Gallagher)
  10. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89 (Tim Applegarth)
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 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:52:09 -0700
 From: NFN Smith worldoff9...@mail.com
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Subject: Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 80
 Message-ID: mfodnqqtw7u2frjjnz2dnuu7-l-dn...@mozilla.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
 
 BTW, when replying to digest emails it's easier for others to follow and
 see what you're replying to if you:
 1. Change the subject line from Re: support-seamonkey Digest... to
 Re: the topic you're replying to
 2. Delete the other topics from your reply, so only the part you're
 replying to remains.
 
 For me, reading Tim's response from a newsreader (Seamonkey), I've 
 noticed that all of his responses are turning up as new threads 
 (including that the subject line is showing the digest name, rather than 
 the original subject).  Seeing headers of a previous message quoted in a 
 response leads me to believe that he's replying to messages by 
 forwarding a previously-posted message and then top-posting his response.
 
 For Tim:
 
 It's not necessarily a problem that you're using OE, but you need to be 
 using Reply, rather than forward.  And as noted, make sure that your 
 subject line is relevant to the topic, and not the name of the digest.
 
 Also, please be aware that this is one of the places where top-posting 
 is strongly discouraged. For what you have to contribute, put your 
 contributions *below* quoted material (and delete stuff that's not 
 relevant to what you have to say).
 
 Be aware that subscribing to a reasonably active group using digest mode 
 may be a good way of keeping your inbox from being overwhelmed (i.e., 
 rather than getting each individual contribution separately), it's 
 doesn't make things easy, if you want to contribute, especially if you 
 want to respond to other postings.
 
 There's actually several ways of getting mozilla.support.seamonkey. 
 Email subscription (whether individual messages or digests) is one. 
 Google Groups another.
 
 A third methodology (and I think, used by many here) is via NNTP News, 
 where you set a news client to get content from news.mozilla.org (using 
 port 119).  Both Seamonkey and Outlook Express include news clients. 
 Thus, if you're using OE for mail, it's not difficult to set up OE to 
 get traffic from the mozilla news server, as news.
 
 You may also want to take a look at the Mozilla forums page 
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/.  You may also want to take 
 a look at the Netiquette page 
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/etiquette/, particularly the 
 points about Trim your posting and Top-posting vs bottom-posting..
 
 Smith
 
 
  To Mr. Smith
Thanks for the procedure instruction.  I really appreciate it. I will try to do 
my best to learn the proper procedures, but I am both, old and slow.  I hate to 
be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the information and electronic age.
  FYI, I don't know how my responses appear as though I am forwarding   
my replies, because I am actually using the reply button in my OE mail 
window. 
  I just sent another post repeating my bug issue, but it was before I read 
this one.  Sorry.

   Tim 

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 Message: 2
 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:39:26 -0500
 From: Ed Mullen ejevo...@edmullen.net
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Subject: Re: Message Filters
 Message-ID: op6dnbk2_u5mobjjnz2dnuu7-bodn...@mozilla.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-26 Thread Ant

On 9/26/2014 12:22 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:
...
 No fix for the address book bug nor for the failure to restore bookmark

backups.  I guess we have to wait for 2.30.



Which address book bug (bug #?) and I don't recall seeing a mention here
or in bug form about the bookmark backup issue. Can you please provide a
pointer so we can try and make sure the fixes are in 2.30 if possible?


Sorting. I have history and corruption problems in my places.sqlite. I 
had to go back to v2.26.1. :(

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-26 Thread Philip Chee
On 27/09/2014 03:22, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 9/25/2014 3:57 PM, EE wrote:

 No fix for the address book bug nor for the failure to restore bookmark
 backups.  I guess we have to wait for 2.30.

 Which address book bug (bug #?) and I don't recall seeing a mention here 
 or in bug form about the bookmark backup issue. Can you please provide a 
 pointer so we can try and make sure the fixes are in 2.30 if possible?

Bug 1064664 - Name Sort Bar In Address Book Not Working

Regression caused by MailNews Core Bug 177206
Fixed in Bug 1024130 for Thunderbird 33 (SeaMonkey 2.30)

I was planning to push the fix to 2.29.1 but dropped the ball on this.
Very sorry.

Thunderbird thread:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=29t=2866229

Phil

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