Re: Seamonkey email client slow to start with Lightning

[Michael Speier]

smatest schrieb:
> When I launch the the email client  from browser is very fast.
> But if you launch it with then Active Lightning is much slower.
> it's normal? Is there anything I can do?
> 1s without Lightning,
> 6s with Lightning.

6 seconds?

Hm, should i test it with my SeaMonkey? Look here:

> https://www.camp-firefox.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4=39080=859422#p859422

How many times at a day do you start your SeaMonkey?

I think 6s is normal with Lightning.



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Seamonkey email client slow to start with Lightning

[smatest]

When I launch the the email client  from browser is very fast.
But if you launch it with then Active Lightning is much slower.
it's normal? Is there anything I can do?
1s without Lightning,
6s with Lightning.
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Re: Planning to install a long overdue Seamonkey update

[EE]

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 25 mars 2016, EE a écrit :


SeaMonkey 2.40 does have a bug in File Bookmark.  The dialog box does
not change size when you pull down the folder list, which makes it
difficult to use.  I corrected the problem by adding code to my
userChrome.css file to make the dialog box longer to accommodate the
folder list.


It would be nice if you shared this code!


Add to userChrome.css:
#bookmarkproperties {
min-width:770px !important; min-height:830px !important;}

If you do not already have that file set up, you need to put this as the 
first lines:
/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct 
functioning */
@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;);


http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css

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Re: text formatting

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 27/03/2016 17:25:

On 03/27/2016 11:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 27/03/2016 16:58:

On 03/27/2016 08:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 27/03/2016 8:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:14:

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:
Sounds crazy, but I can't find the formatting toolbar in 
SeaMonkey
(2.40), even after starting it in safe mode. The only thing 
I can

think
of is that since I use it for newsgroups but not email, it has
decided
I'm not worth bothering with.

I use plain text for newsgroups, but I'm still curious.
knowledge there is no format toolbar in SeaMonkey at all; 
there is

only
a format menu in the compose window and that only appears 
when you

are
composing in HTML.

Regards
Keith

So if you wanted to send an email or post to a newsgroup in 
formatted
text or with other features such as bullet points, you would 
create it

in Composer and paste it into the email or newsgroup parts of the
suite.
Is that correct?


On my machine, there's a formatting toolbar directly under the 
Subject:

field when I compose/reply in HTML. As with other SM toolbars, it
can be
hidden/revealed:

(in an HTML composition window) View | Show/Hide... Formatting 
Toolbar


If the checkbox is already in the "on" position, look where I 
told you
for a little speckly rectangle, just under the word "Subject:," 
and

click it to toggle it back on.

There's no formatting toolbar in a plain text composition window
because
it would be pointless.



The one place I could find in Preferences to select plain text vs.
HTML is Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send the message in formatted
text (html) anyway.

So I checked that, closed and reopened. Assuming I'm now 
composing in

HTML, I can find no format toolbar, including under View-Show/Hide-
or in the customize box.

It might be that you need to have email set up for that toolbar to
appear in the newsgroup GUI.

(back in plain text to compose and send this post)



Select the Account, click View settings for this account > 
Composition

& Addressing, put a check mark in the box for "Compose messages in
HTML format.

You should see the formatting toolbar underneath where you enter the
Subject.

Why do you want to see it in plain text composition?
I have for my account Composition & Addressing, - "Compose 
messages in

HTML format".
All  goes well ... when composing the html-formatting bar is 
present ...
then I send the mail, and SM propose me to send in "html and plain 
text"

or in "html only" or in "plain text only".
When I choose in "plain text only" .. the mail is sent in plain text
only - so far, so good.
Then, per exemple I need to sent this mail to another friend, so I do
"Message" - "Edit Message as New" ...
AND the html-formatting bar is NOT present evenwhile my option
"Composition & Addressing" is "Compose messages in HTML format".
So I cannot add some html gadget for my "another friend".


Ray, why don't you reverse this procedure?? Send the HTML Composed 
e-mail to your mate that needs it in HTML first, then "Message" - 
"Edit Message as New" ... and then when you're asked if you want to 
send in HTML, PL or Both, *then* select PL.




Good suggestion!

That is what I did with my test posts in m.test.

The first post "Test" was composed in HTML and sent as plain text. 
Went to edit it as new from my Sent folder and it had no HTML 
formatting bar.


The next post "HTML Test" was sent in HTML and plain text. Edit as 
new had the HTML formatting bar.


The following "HTML Test" was the previous post from my Sent folder, 
Edited as new had the HTML formatting bar,  did no editing and sent 
as plain text.


So Ray could compose in HTML, send to the HTML recipient, use Edit 
as new and edit out the HTML gadget if necessary, or just send as is 
in plain text.


Sorry, but I was thinking to send also this mail to another friend 
... AFTER sending the first in plaintext.

I did not think about the second send at the beginning ...
Anyway, I was expecting that SM present me ALWAYS the html-bar 
because my "Compose messages in HTML format" option is set.
Composing a new mail OR editing a mail as new are BOTH a "Compose 
message"


Looking at the source of a message composed in HTML and only sent as 
plain text, shows only plain text formatting.


Probably the reason the HTML formatting bar doesn't appear. To the 
composition window it is a plain text message you are editing.


Yes, I have understood .. But this is stupid to not permit an HTML 
modification of this mail, because normally the option say that I 
compose in HTML.
I dont need that SM must convert a plaintext in html, I just need this 
HTML bar.

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Re: text formatting

[WaltS48]

On 03/27/2016 11:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 27/03/2016 16:58:

On 03/27/2016 08:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 27/03/2016 8:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:14:

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:
Sounds crazy, but I can't find the formatting toolbar in 
SeaMonkey
(2.40), even after starting it in safe mode. The only thing I 
can

think
of is that since I use it for newsgroups but not email, it has
decided
I'm not worth bothering with.

I use plain text for newsgroups, but I'm still curious.
knowledge there is no format toolbar in SeaMonkey at all; 
there is

only
a format menu in the compose window and that only appears when 
you

are
composing in HTML.

Regards
Keith

So if you wanted to send an email or post to a newsgroup in 
formatted
text or with other features such as bullet points, you would 
create it

in Composer and paste it into the email or newsgroup parts of the
suite.
Is that correct?


On my machine, there's a formatting toolbar directly under the 
Subject:

field when I compose/reply in HTML. As with other SM toolbars, it
can be
hidden/revealed:

(in an HTML composition window) View | Show/Hide... Formatting 
Toolbar


If the checkbox is already in the "on" position, look where I 
told you

for a little speckly rectangle, just under the word "Subject:," and
click it to toggle it back on.

There's no formatting toolbar in a plain text composition window
because
it would be pointless.



The one place I could find in Preferences to select plain text vs.
HTML is Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send the message in formatted
text (html) anyway.

So I checked that, closed and reopened. Assuming I'm now 
composing in

HTML, I can find no format toolbar, including under View-Show/Hide-
or in the customize box.

It might be that you need to have email set up for that toolbar to
appear in the newsgroup GUI.

(back in plain text to compose and send this post)



Select the Account, click View settings for this account > 
Composition

& Addressing, put a check mark in the box for "Compose messages in
HTML format.

You should see the formatting toolbar underneath where you enter the
Subject.

Why do you want to see it in plain text composition?

I have for my account Composition & Addressing, - "Compose messages in
HTML format".
All  goes well ... when composing the html-formatting bar is 
present ...
then I send the mail, and SM propose me to send in "html and plain 
text"

or in "html only" or in "plain text only".
When I choose in "plain text only" .. the mail is sent in plain text
only - so far, so good.
Then, per exemple I need to sent this mail to another friend, so I do
"Message" - "Edit Message as New" ...
AND the html-formatting bar is NOT present evenwhile my option
"Composition & Addressing" is "Compose messages in HTML format".
So I cannot add some html gadget for my "another friend".


Ray, why don't you reverse this procedure?? Send the HTML Composed 
e-mail to your mate that needs it in HTML first, then "Message" - 
"Edit Message as New" ... and then when you're asked if you want to 
send in HTML, PL or Both, *then* select PL.




Good suggestion!

That is what I did with my test posts in m.test.

The first post "Test" was composed in HTML and sent as plain text. 
Went to edit it as new from my Sent folder and it had no HTML 
formatting bar.


The next post "HTML Test" was sent in HTML and plain text. Edit as 
new had the HTML formatting bar.


The following "HTML Test" was the previous post from my Sent folder, 
Edited as new had the HTML formatting bar,  did no editing and sent 
as plain text.


So Ray could compose in HTML, send to the HTML recipient, use Edit as 
new and edit out the HTML gadget if necessary, or just send as is in 
plain text.


Sorry, but I was thinking to send also this mail to another friend ... 
AFTER sending the first in plaintext.

I did not think about the second send at the beginning ...
Anyway, I was expecting that SM present me ALWAYS the html-bar because 
my "Compose messages in HTML format" option is set.
Composing a new mail OR editing a mail as new are BOTH a "Compose 
message"


Looking at the source of a message composed in HTML and only sent as 
plain text, shows only plain text formatting.


Probably the reason the HTML formatting bar doesn't appear. To the 
composition window it is a plain text message you are editing.


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Re: text formatting

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 27/03/2016 16:58:

On 03/27/2016 08:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 27/03/2016 8:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:14:

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:
Sounds crazy, but I can't find the formatting toolbar in 
SeaMonkey

(2.40), even after starting it in safe mode. The only thing I can
think
of is that since I use it for newsgroups but not email, it has
decided
I'm not worth bothering with.

I use plain text for newsgroups, but I'm still curious.

knowledge there is no format toolbar in SeaMonkey at all; there is
only
a format menu in the compose window and that only appears when you
are
composing in HTML.

Regards
Keith

So if you wanted to send an email or post to a newsgroup in 
formatted
text or with other features such as bullet points, you would 
create it

in Composer and paste it into the email or newsgroup parts of the
suite.
Is that correct?


On my machine, there's a formatting toolbar directly under the 
Subject:

field when I compose/reply in HTML. As with other SM toolbars, it
can be
hidden/revealed:

(in an HTML composition window) View | Show/Hide... Formatting 
Toolbar


If the checkbox is already in the "on" position, look where I 
told you

for a little speckly rectangle, just under the word "Subject:," and
click it to toggle it back on.

There's no formatting toolbar in a plain text composition window
because
it would be pointless.



The one place I could find in Preferences to select plain text vs.
HTML is Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send the message in formatted
text (html) anyway.

So I checked that, closed and reopened. Assuming I'm now composing in
HTML, I can find no format toolbar, including under View-Show/Hide-
or in the customize box.

It might be that you need to have email set up for that toolbar to
appear in the newsgroup GUI.

(back in plain text to compose and send this post)



Select the Account, click View settings for this account > Composition
& Addressing, put a check mark in the box for "Compose messages in
HTML format.

You should see the formatting toolbar underneath where you enter the
Subject.

Why do you want to see it in plain text composition?

I have for my account Composition & Addressing, - "Compose messages in
HTML format".
All  goes well ... when composing the html-formatting bar is present 
...
then I send the mail, and SM propose me to send in "html and plain 
text"

or in "html only" or in "plain text only".
When I choose in "plain text only" .. the mail is sent in plain text
only - so far, so good.
Then, per exemple I need to sent this mail to another friend, so I do
"Message" - "Edit Message as New" ...
AND the html-formatting bar is NOT present evenwhile my option
"Composition & Addressing" is "Compose messages in HTML format".
So I cannot add some html gadget for my "another friend".


Ray, why don't you reverse this procedure?? Send the HTML Composed 
e-mail to your mate that needs it in HTML first, then "Message" - 
"Edit Message as New" ... and then when you're asked if you want to 
send in HTML, PL or Both, *then* select PL.




Good suggestion!

That is what I did with my test posts in m.test.

The first post "Test" was composed in HTML and sent as plain text. 
Went to edit it as new from my Sent folder and it had no HTML 
formatting bar.


The next post "HTML Test" was sent in HTML and plain text. Edit as new 
had the HTML formatting bar.


The following "HTML Test" was the previous post from my Sent folder, 
Edited as new had the HTML formatting bar,  did no editing and sent as 
plain text.


So Ray could compose in HTML, send to the HTML recipient, use Edit as 
new and edit out the HTML gadget if necessary, or just send as is in 
plain text.


Sorry, but I was thinking to send also this mail to another friend ... 
AFTER sending the first in plaintext.

I did not think about the second send at the beginning ...
Anyway, I was expecting that SM present me ALWAYS the html-bar because 
my "Compose messages in HTML format" option is set.
Composing a new mail OR editing a mail as new are BOTH a "Compose 
message"

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Re: Did your SeaMonkey v2.39 break the "Allow remote content for ..."?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 23/03/2016 23:08:

On 3/23/2016 7:08 AM, chaa...@gmail.com wrote:


Still broken in 2.40 as far as I can see. Back to 2.26 (again).


Yep, still broken in v2.40. I think v2.38 was fixed and working. :(
I am under v2.38 and I did not see any problem with ""Allow remote 
content for ...".

What was the problem with this in 2.39 and 2.40 ?
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Re: text formatting

[WaltS48]

On 03/27/2016 08:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 27/03/2016 8:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:14:

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

Sounds crazy, but I can't find the formatting toolbar in SeaMonkey
(2.40), even after starting it in safe mode. The only thing I can
think
of is that since I use it for newsgroups but not email, it has
decided
I'm not worth bothering with.

I use plain text for newsgroups, but I'm still curious.

knowledge there is no format toolbar in SeaMonkey at all; there is
only
a format menu in the compose window and that only appears when you
are
composing in HTML.

Regards
Keith

So if you wanted to send an email or post to a newsgroup in 
formatted
text or with other features such as bullet points, you would 
create it

in Composer and paste it into the email or newsgroup parts of the
suite.
Is that correct?


On my machine, there's a formatting toolbar directly under the 
Subject:

field when I compose/reply in HTML. As with other SM toolbars, it
can be
hidden/revealed:

(in an HTML composition window) View | Show/Hide... Formatting 
Toolbar


If the checkbox is already in the "on" position, look where I told 
you

for a little speckly rectangle, just under the word "Subject:," and
click it to toggle it back on.

There's no formatting toolbar in a plain text composition window
because
it would be pointless.



The one place I could find in Preferences to select plain text vs.
HTML is Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send the message in formatted
text (html) anyway.

So I checked that, closed and reopened. Assuming I'm now composing in
HTML, I can find no format toolbar, including under View-Show/Hide-
or in the customize box.

It might be that you need to have email set up for that toolbar to
appear in the newsgroup GUI.

(back in plain text to compose and send this post)



Select the Account, click View settings for this account > Composition
& Addressing, put a check mark in the box for "Compose messages in
HTML format.

You should see the formatting toolbar underneath where you enter the
Subject.

Why do you want to see it in plain text composition?

I have for my account Composition & Addressing, - "Compose messages in
HTML format".
All  goes well ... when composing the html-formatting bar is present ...
then I send the mail, and SM propose me to send in "html and plain text"
or in "html only" or in "plain text only".
When I choose in "plain text only" .. the mail is sent in plain text
only - so far, so good.
Then, per exemple I need to sent this mail to another friend, so I do
"Message" - "Edit Message as New" ...
AND the html-formatting bar is NOT present evenwhile my option
"Composition & Addressing" is "Compose messages in HTML format".
So I cannot add some html gadget for my "another friend".


Ray, why don't you reverse this procedure?? Send the HTML Composed 
e-mail to your mate that needs it in HTML first, then "Message" - 
"Edit Message as New" ... and then when you're asked if you want to 
send in HTML, PL or Both, *then* select PL.




Good suggestion!

That is what I did with my test posts in m.test.

The first post "Test" was composed in HTML and sent as plain text. Went 
to edit it as new from my Sent folder and it had no HTML formatting bar.


The next post "HTML Test" was sent in HTML and plain text. Edit as new 
had the HTML formatting bar.


The following "HTML Test" was the previous post from my Sent folder, 
Edited as new had the HTML formatting bar,  did no editing and sent as 
plain text.


So Ray could compose in HTML, send to the HTML recipient, use Edit as 
new and edit out the HTML gadget if necessary, or just send as is in 
plain text.


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Re: text formatting

[Daniel]

On 27/03/2016 8:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:14:

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

Sounds crazy, but I can't find the formatting toolbar in SeaMonkey
(2.40), even after starting it in safe mode. The only thing I can
think
of is that since I use it for newsgroups but not email, it has
decided
I'm not worth bothering with.

I use plain text for newsgroups, but I'm still curious.

knowledge there is no format toolbar in SeaMonkey at all; there is
only
a format menu in the compose window and that only appears when you
are
composing in HTML.

Regards
Keith


So if you wanted to send an email or post to a newsgroup in formatted
text or with other features such as bullet points, you would create it
in Composer and paste it into the email or newsgroup parts of the
suite.
Is that correct?


On my machine, there's a formatting toolbar directly under the Subject:
field when I compose/reply in HTML. As with other SM toolbars, it
can be
hidden/revealed:

(in an HTML composition window) View | Show/Hide... Formatting Toolbar

If the checkbox is already in the "on" position, look where I told you
for a little speckly rectangle, just under the word "Subject:," and
click it to toggle it back on.

There's no formatting toolbar in a plain text composition window
because
it would be pointless.



The one place I could find in Preferences to select plain text vs.
HTML is Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send the message in formatted
text (html) anyway.

So I checked that, closed and reopened. Assuming I'm now composing in
HTML, I can find no format toolbar, including under View-Show/Hide-
or in the customize box.

It might be that you need to have email set up for that toolbar to
appear in the newsgroup GUI.

(back in plain text to compose and send this post)



Select the Account, click View settings for this account > Composition
& Addressing, put a check mark in the box for "Compose messages in
HTML format.

You should see the formatting toolbar underneath where you enter the
Subject.

Why do you want to see it in plain text composition?

I have for my account Composition & Addressing, - "Compose messages in
HTML format".
All  goes well ... when composing the html-formatting bar is present ...
then I send the mail, and SM propose me to send in "html and plain text"
or in "html only" or in "plain text only".
When I choose in "plain text only" .. the mail is sent in plain text
only - so far, so good.
Then, per exemple I need to sent this mail to another friend, so I do
"Message" - "Edit Message as New" ...
AND the html-formatting bar is NOT present evenwhile my option
"Composition & Addressing" is "Compose messages in HTML format".
So I cannot add some html gadget for my "another friend".


Ray, why don't you reverse this procedure?? Send the HTML Composed 
e-mail to your mate that needs it in HTML first, then "Message" - "Edit 
Message as New" ... and then when you're asked if you want to send in 
HTML, PL or Both, *then* select PL.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Did your SeaMonkey v2.39 break the "Allow remote content for ..."?

[bdelmee]

Same for me, back on 2.38.
I hope this will get fixed (again) for 2.42...

chaa...@gmail.com wrote on 2016-03-23 15:23:

Still broken in 2.40 as far as I can see; back to 2.38 (again) :-(



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Re: text formatting

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:50:

On 03/26/2016 05:35 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/03/2016 22:14:

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

Sounds crazy, but I can't find the formatting toolbar in SeaMonkey
(2.40), even after starting it in safe mode. The only thing I 
can think
of is that since I use it for newsgroups but not email, it has 
decided

I'm not worth bothering with.

I use plain text for newsgroups, but I'm still curious.
knowledge there is no format toolbar in SeaMonkey at all; there 
is only
a format menu in the compose window and that only appears when 
you are

composing in HTML.

Regards
Keith

So if you wanted to send an email or post to a newsgroup in 
formatted
text or with other features such as bullet points, you would 
create it
in Composer and paste it into the email or newsgroup parts of the 
suite.

Is that correct?


On my machine, there's a formatting toolbar directly under the 
Subject:
field when I compose/reply in HTML. As with other SM toolbars, it 
can be

hidden/revealed:

(in an HTML composition window) View | Show/Hide... Formatting 
Toolbar


If the checkbox is already in the "on" position, look where I told 
you

for a little speckly rectangle, just under the word "Subject:," and
click it to toggle it back on.

There's no formatting toolbar in a plain text composition window 
because

it would be pointless.



The one place I could find in Preferences to select plain text vs. 
HTML is Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send the message in formatted 
text (html) anyway.


So I checked that, closed and reopened. Assuming I'm now composing 
in HTML, I can find no format toolbar, including under 
View-Show/Hide- or in the customize box.


It might be that you need to have email set up for that toolbar to 
appear in the newsgroup GUI.


(back in plain text to compose and send this post)



Select the Account, click View settings for this account > 
Composition & Addressing, put a check mark in the box for "Compose 
messages in HTML format.


You should see the formatting toolbar underneath where you enter the 
Subject.


Why do you want to see it in plain text composition?
I have for my account Composition & Addressing, - "Compose messages 
in HTML format".
All  goes well ... when composing the html-formatting bar is present 
... then I send the mail, and SM propose me to send in "html and 
plain text" or in "html only" or in "plain text only".
When I choose in "plain text only" .. the mail is sent in plain text 
only - so far, so good.
Then, per exemple I need to sent this mail to another friend, so I do 
"Message" - "Edit Message as New" ...
AND the html-formatting bar is NOT present evenwhile my option 
"Composition & Addressing" is "Compose messages in HTML format".

So I cannot add some html gadget for my "another friend".


Sounds like bug. You should report it.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1259984 just done -WITH NO 
HOPE  ...SM prefer to have gadgets implemented and let bugs unresolved ...

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