Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Richmond
I see here:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/your-hardware-no-longer-supported

It says:

"You may be able to obtain a version that does not require SSE2 from
 your Linux distribution."

Does this mean that I could compile seamonkey on my AMD Athlon XP
(currently running slackware) in theory?
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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Richmond
Hawker  writes:

> Can I get a quick education - I had to google what that even means.
> As I understand this that started in the first Pentium 4 computers correct?
> In other words this is only an issue for very old Pentium 3 and earlier
> computers correct?
>

It affects my AMD Athlon XP, although I don't use it very much, so I am
not too bothered.

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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

On 12/22/2016 10:50 PM, Richmond wrote:

Hawker  writes:


Can I get a quick education - I had to google what that even means.
As I understand this that started in the first Pentium 4 computers correct?
In other words this is only an issue for very old Pentium 3 and earlier
computers correct?



It affects my AMD Athlon XP, although I don't use it very much, so I am
not too bothered.


Is SeaMonkey v2.40 very slow on it? I can't remember if I used SM on it. 
I know I used Mozilla suites.

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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

Ditto. Mine keeps going to DuckDuckGo. :(


On 11/15/2016 8:35 PM, cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant
Edmund, thank you for fixing the official web site's home page and 
internal updater for 64-bit W7 users. I just got its internal update. :D



On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund

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Re: Mnenhy with 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Jonathan N. Little
John Duncan wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>> Didn't someone post a fix for Mnenhy with 2.46? I thought I saw it but
>>> cannot find the post. Had a bit of a panic because it messed up my
>>> header panel which interfered with Enigmail decoding message in one of
>>> my accounts...
>>FWIW, mnenhy already displays Xface
> 
>>Take a look at the diff I posted, you'll see what was needed to fix
> the extension. Apparently, there was a change in ES6 syntax?
> 
>>https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8930566
>>https://www.sitepoint.com/preparing-ecmascript-6-let-const/
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript#6th_Edition_-_ECMAScript_2015
> 
> ^ this was Mason83's reply to my post in that chain. Probably what
> you're referring to.

Yes, I found the post and downloaded this which fix it:



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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
John Duncan wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Pat Connors wrote:
>>> In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
>>> 2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
>>> available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?
>>
>> Breach? What breach?
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> I think he's referring to the SVG 0-day javascript exploit

Ah thanks John.

yeah.. the fix has been included in 2.46.

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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Roger Fink

 Original Message 

On 12/22/2016 6:48 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi All,

(this is a personal note, so any flak should be directed to me only and
no one else).

While this is in the soon-to-be-released release notes, I felt it's
prudent that I post this here.

SeaMonkey 2.46 took it's not-so-sweet time in being released due to a
plethora of issues (I am so damn glad at least others are more on the
ball than I am -- namely frg whose more clear-headed than I am).  That
said, there is one major issue.

SeaMonkey 2.40 will be the *last* version that supports non-CPU SSE
enabled systems.  2.44 (or maybe 2.43) *was* supposed to be the version
that gave users the 'your system will no longer be supported due to
it not having a SSE-enabled CPU' message (or something like that).
Unfortunately, 2.44 was skipped (as was 2.43 and 2.45) and so this
will come to users as a surprise (especially those installing the
full installer).

Since I have no knowledge (we lost this metric awhile ago) of how many
users we really have, I don't know how many are affected by this
and I suspect we won't know unless someone speaks out here or
anywhere.  If you are affected, please use 2.40.

My humblest apologies for suddenly springing this version on the user
base without mentioning it anywhere beforehand (the bug that dealt with
this change slipped off my radar).


Edmund



Is there a method by which an end-user can determine if a PC has a CPU
that is SSE enabled?  My wife's PC was built in 2010 with an Intel
Pentium processor, but I cannot tell if it is Pentium 4, which is where
SSE first appeared.

You can install Piriform Speccy, free or paid version, and check it 
under the CPU heading.

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Re: Mnenhy with 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread John Duncan

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Didn't someone post a fix for Mnenhy with 2.46? I thought I saw it but
cannot find the post. Had a bit of a panic because it messed up my
header panel which interfered with Enigmail decoding message in one of
my accounts...

>FWIW, mnenhy already displays Xface

>Take a look at the diff I posted, you'll see what was needed to fix
the extension. Apparently, there was a change in ES6 syntax?

>https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8930566
>https://www.sitepoint.com/preparing-ecmascript-6-let-const/
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript#6th_Edition_-_ECMAScript_2015

^ this was Mason83's reply to my post in that chain. Probably what 
you're referring to.

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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/22/2016 7:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


Is there a method by which an end-user can determine if a PC has a CPU
that is SSE enabled?


cat /proc/cpuinfo

If you aren't fortunate enough to be on an OS where that works, Windows 
has msinfo32 and wmic, although you'll have to compare the processor 
info those give you by looking up the specs online.

https://www.windows-commandline.com/get-cpu-processor-information-command/

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Mnenhy with 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Jonathan N. Little
Didn't someone post a fix for Mnenhy with 2.46? I thought I saw it but
cannot find the post. Had a bit of a panic because it messed up my
header panel which interfered with Enigmail decoding message in one of
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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/22/2016 6:48 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> (this is a personal note, so any flak should be directed to me only and
> no one else).
> 
> While this is in the soon-to-be-released release notes, I felt it's
> prudent that I post this here.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.46 took it's not-so-sweet time in being released due to a
> plethora of issues (I am so damn glad at least others are more on the
> ball than I am -- namely frg whose more clear-headed than I am).  That
> said, there is one major issue.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.40 will be the *last* version that supports non-CPU SSE
> enabled systems.  2.44 (or maybe 2.43) *was* supposed to be the version
> that gave users the 'your system will no longer be supported due to
> it not having a SSE-enabled CPU' message (or something like that).
> Unfortunately, 2.44 was skipped (as was 2.43 and 2.45) and so this
> will come to users as a surprise (especially those installing the
> full installer).
> 
> Since I have no knowledge (we lost this metric awhile ago) of how many
> users we really have, I don't know how many are affected by this
> and I suspect we won't know unless someone speaks out here or
> anywhere.  If you are affected, please use 2.40.
> 
> My humblest apologies for suddenly springing this version on the user
> base without mentioning it anywhere beforehand (the bug that dealt with
> this change slipped off my radar).
> 
> 
> Edmund
> 
> 

Is there a method by which an end-user can determine if a PC has a CPU
that is SSE enabled?  My wife's PC was built in 2010 with an Intel
Pentium processor, but I cannot tell if it is Pentium 4, which is where
SSE first appeared.

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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Hawker

On 12/22/2016 9:48 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi All,

(this is a personal note, so any flak should be directed to me only and
no one else).

While this is in the soon-to-be-released release notes, I felt it's
prudent that I post this here.

SeaMonkey 2.46 took it's not-so-sweet time in being released due to a
plethora of issues (I am so damn glad at least others are more on the
ball than I am -- namely frg whose more clear-headed than I am).  That
said, there is one major issue.

SeaMonkey 2.40 will be the *last* version that supports non-CPU SSE
enabled systems.  2.44 (or maybe 2.43) *was* supposed to be the version
that gave users the 'your system will no longer be supported due to
it not having a SSE-enabled CPU' message (or something like that).
Unfortunately, 2.44 was skipped (as was 2.43 and 2.45) and so this
will come to users as a surprise (especially those installing the
full installer).

Since I have no knowledge (we lost this metric awhile ago) of how many
users we really have, I don't know how many are affected by this
and I suspect we won't know unless someone speaks out here or
anywhere.  If you are affected, please use 2.40.

My humblest apologies for suddenly springing this version on the user
base without mentioning it anywhere beforehand (the bug that dealt with
this change slipped off my radar).


Edmund




Can I get a quick education - I had to google what that even means.
As I understand this that started in the first Pentium 4 computers correct?
In other words this is only an issue for very old Pentium 3 and earlier 
computers correct?


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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread WaltS48

On 12/22/2016 08:56 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Pat Connors wrote:

In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?

Breach? What breach?

Edmund



The one that pertained to Gecko 43 which 2.40 was based on for release.



The versions span from 41 to 50, with version 45 ESR being the version 
used by the latest version of the Tor browser.
REF: 




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SOLVED: Re: Address Book Contacts Disappeared

2016-12-22 Thread Brian Mailman

Daniel wrote:

On 17/12/2016 8:31 AM, Brian Mailman wrote:

Seamonkey 2.40
Windows 10

Help, please.  I just used the address book to send out an invitation
(if anyone doesn't recognize the word, it's where "invite" as a noun
came from) with a stack of bccs.

Today I opened it and every contact that I've collected over the past 20
years or so is gone.  Just gone.  All i see is a like-virginal blank
slate.

Can anyone tell me how I can, if possible, recover my contacts?

B/

Brian, up in the top left of your Address Book screen, do you see a
"Look in" section?? If so, is it set to "Collected Addresses" or
"Personal Address Book"?? Have you tried the other selection??


Thanks to everyone who tried to help.  This turned out be a PEBKAC 
(Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair).  When the Window/pane is 
minimized the addresses disappear.  When I maximize or resize it to be 
larger they reappear.


Sorry for the false alarm :( :(

B/




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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread John Duncan

Edmund Wong wrote:

Pat Connors wrote:

In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?


Breach? What breach?

Edmund


I think he's referring to the SVG 0-day javascript exploit
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re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
Hi All,

(this is a personal note, so any flak should be directed to me only and
no one else).

While this is in the soon-to-be-released release notes, I felt it's
prudent that I post this here.

SeaMonkey 2.46 took it's not-so-sweet time in being released due to a
plethora of issues (I am so damn glad at least others are more on the
ball than I am -- namely frg whose more clear-headed than I am).  That
said, there is one major issue.

SeaMonkey 2.40 will be the *last* version that supports non-CPU SSE
enabled systems.  2.44 (or maybe 2.43) *was* supposed to be the version
that gave users the 'your system will no longer be supported due to
it not having a SSE-enabled CPU' message (or something like that).
Unfortunately, 2.44 was skipped (as was 2.43 and 2.45) and so this
will come to users as a surprise (especially those installing the
full installer).

Since I have no knowledge (we lost this metric awhile ago) of how many
users we really have, I don't know how many are affected by this
and I suspect we won't know unless someone speaks out here or
anywhere.  If you are affected, please use 2.40.

My humblest apologies for suddenly springing this version on the user
base without mentioning it anywhere beforehand (the bug that dealt with
this change slipped off my radar).


Edmund


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
David E. Ross wrote:
> On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
>>
>> Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
>> man.. little DID I know.
>>
>> Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...
>>
>> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
>> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!
>>
>> So please check out [1] or [2].
>>
>> Please note that the website information, while updated for
>> 2.40, still requires a bit more work.
>>
>> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
>> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
>> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> 
> I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
> that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
> through the Internet.
> 

My apologies.  I missed out (for some reasons) uploading those
checksums.  They should be there soon, if not now.

Edmund
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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
Pat Connors wrote:
> In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
> 2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
> available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?

Breach? What breach?

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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-22 Thread Hawker

On 12/22/2016 2:12 PM, Richmond wrote:

Hawker  writes:


On 12/22/2016 8:00 AM, Richmond wrote:

I raised a bug here:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1325048



Thank you Richmond.
I tried Ralph's work around GIF and mine doesn't do that for some reason.  I
see your bug got declined as "invalid".
Sounds like the fix is to change the user agent. What is the best way to do
that these days? I had a plug in years ago for that but haven't had to do it
in years.


I used "user agent switcher" as described by FRG in the bugzilla. Search
for that in addons. But you have to then download and import a list of
agents to get Firefox 49. Otherwise it's just i.e. and a few obscure
ones.

http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



Thanx, that did it.
Finding the user agent list to import was way less than intuitive. It 
didn't have FF49 in it but FF47 UA fixed the issue.



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Resurrecting an old theme

2016-12-22 Thread Roger Fink
In case anybody else has saved a copy, the Mostly Crystal theme works 
perfectly on this upgrade to 2.46, even after many years of lying 
dormant. Or at least that is true for my installation on Win7/32, which 
I use for browsing and newsgroup posting. I only had to update install.rdf.


JMO of course, but I've always considered Mostly Crystal to be THE best 
of the "traditional GUI" themes for SeaMonkey, including the various 
baked-in default themes. The woman who created it, whose screen name 
I've forgotten but who used to post on this board, got a little 
frustrated with Mozilla and closed it down. It would be great if someone 
devised a way, with her assent, to keep it current and make it an 
ongoing offering (or the default theme) for this browser, since


a) the releases aren't coming that fast anymore.
b) it plays nice with the Menu Filter extension, which reins in the wild 
and crazy SM drop-down menus, and,
c) importantly for an integrated browser/email application, the hard 
work has already been done.


So far SM v.2.46 works beautifully - great job.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

On 12/22/2016 3:04 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/22/2016 05:48 PM, Ant wrote:

Really? How will users know there are updates then? Will they at least
tell them to go to the official web site?



You email all your friends using it, inform them of the release, with
the link to the release.


None of my friends use SM. :~( It looks it will be fixed according to 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/12/23/updates-and-2-40/ ...

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

On 12/22/2016 4:13 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

Really? How will users know there are updates then? Will they at least
tell them to go to the official web site?

>

That's on my TODO list right now.


Thank you. I just saw your blog in 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/12/23/updates-and-2-40/ ...

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
Ant wrote:
> Really? How will users know there are updates then? Will they at least
> tell them to go to the official web site?
> 
> 
> On 12/22/2016 1:47 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> Just grab the full installer from the website. Update will likely not
>> work for any Windows OS in this release only.
> ...

That's on my TODO list right now.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/22/2016 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
>>
>> Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
>> man.. little DID I know.
>>
>> Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...
>>
>> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
>> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!
>>
>> So please check out [1] or [2].
>>
>> Please note that the website information, while updated for
>> 2.40, still requires a bit more work.
>>
>> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
>> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
>> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> 
> I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
> that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
> through the Internet.
> 

Never mind; I found them.

Previously, a very large file of checksums would have been at
, the main
directory for the overall version.  This file would have contained all
the checksums for all language versions.

Now, the file of checksums for my en-US version is
.
 There appears to be a checksum file in each language's folder.

This is okay, just as long as checksums are indeed provided.  However, I
notice that the checksums for the .mar files under
 are not in
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread WaltS48

On 12/22/2016 05:48 PM, Ant wrote:
Really? How will users know there are updates then? Will they at least 
tell them to go to the official web site?




You email all your friends using it, inform them of the release, with 
the link to the release.


I have one in England that uses SeaMonkey.

(xpost to m.d.a.seamonkey removed)



On 12/22/2016 1:47 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Just grab the full installer from the website. Update will likely not
work for any Windows OS in this release only.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant
Really? How will users know there are updates then? Will they at least 
tell them to go to the official web site?



On 12/22/2016 1:47 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Just grab the full installer from the website. Update will likely not
work for any Windows OS in this release only.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Just grab the full installer from the website. Update will likely not 
work for any Windows OS in this release only.


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


Just went to help menu check for updates 2.46 come right up.
Installed and currently using (mac version)  I am using MacOS 12.2.2
the way the security is in Sierra if its defective it won't install.


Not here on Win7 Pro SP1 -- "There are no updates available..."

Didn't we have this once before, where Windows systems couldn't see the 
update?




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SMS/texts' e-mails issues...

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

Hello.

I text/SMS through e-mails, but I noticed SeaMonkey doesn't show the 
text message attachments. I can see them if I display their attachments 
inlined though. Also, replying them with quotes fail as well.


Here is an example from an e-mail's source code from an [deleted phone 
#]@mms.att.net:

...
--=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Disposition: Attachment; Filename=text_0.txt; Charset=US-ASCII
Content-ID: 0
Content-Location: text_0.txt
Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64

QmFieSBub3QgZ29pbmcgdG8gc2xlZXAuLi4gZ3JhbmRtYSBnZXR0aW5nIGJhY2sgbGF0ZS4uLiBu
byBtb21teSBhcm91bmQuLi5hIGJpcnRoZGF5IHBhcnR5IGF0IDYgdGhhdCByZXF1aXJlcyBhIHRy
aXAgdG8gdGFyZ2V0IGZvciBhIHByZXNlbnQuLi4gdG8gbmFtZSBhIGZldw==
--=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497--


Is it because of its text attachment? Is there a way to show them as 
attachments and quote when replying to them?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PhillipJones wrote:


Just went to help menu check for updates 2.46 come right up.
Installed and currently using (mac version)  I am using MacOS 12.2.2
the way the security is in Sierra if its defective it won't install.


Not here on Win7 Pro SP1 -- "There are no updates available..."

Didn't we have this once before, where Windows systems couldn't see the 
update?


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Re: Am I doing this correctly ?

2016-12-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

NFN Smith wrote:


All good stuff. A couple of additional thoughts inserted...

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


I have files unrelated to SeaMonkey that are no less important. I
do a system-wide backup every week.


In my case, nightly (mission-critical work computer). The first week
I had a computer (a PC-XT in 1985), I lost a whole day's work by
failing to back it up. Ever since, my motto has been, "If you love
me, back me up."

Some basic principles all users should follow for backup (I'm sure
you know this, but other readers may not):


I would go one step further -- think through your potential recovery
scenarios. There's enough variants that one particular backup
methodology or tool may not fit all the possibilities for recovery.
There's a difference between doing a bare-metal recovery following a
device or controller failure and a recovery from an "oops" overwrite or
deletion of one or two critical files.


Good point. An ideal backup system supports both.


1) Do it automatically. If you have to think about it, you'll forget
or make excuses, and when disaster comes you'll lose something
important because you didn't back it up.

2) Separate the backup media from the source computer. If the backup
is killed by the same disaster as the computer, you have no backup.


And don't rely on a single media set that's continuously attached,
although this works against point 1). Now that one of the varieties of
malware that we have to account for includes ransomware, you need to
make sure that you account for the possibility of that kind of thing
encrypting your backups. Plus, there's always the the matter of making
sure you have off-site backups (think: building burning down, or a
lost/stolen laptop).


Yep, that's the point of separation.

There are essentially two approaches to this: backup via the Internet to 
a remote site ("the cloud"), or swap the media regularly so the 
penultimate one is always off-site.


There are trade-offs here. Backing up to a remote site entails the risk 
that someone else may gain access to your data (use hard encryption), 
that the remote host may fail (HW crash, etc.) or go out of business, 
and that you may lose/forget your password, encryption key, etc. And 
swapping the media runs up against points 1) and 3) -- the more thought 
you have to put in, the less reliable it is.



Years ago, I was backing up a desktop PC onto floppy disks, and I had
the habit of using just one set of floppies, writing a new backup over
the previous one. One time, I was doing a backup when the hard drive was
in the process of failing, and I had a crash while I was backing up.
Thus, the new backup set was unusable, and the old backup was no longer
available.  Following a reboot, I was able to run a new complete backup,
but I learned that it's important never to discard/obliterate an old
backup, until you have a usable one to replace it with.


Excellent point.


Keeping this on a slightly Seamonkey focus: ...

On my own system, I do have things set to do nightly backups (and I know
how to get to the profile data in the Windows directory hierarchy), but
with my main Seamonkey profile, I periodically use MozBackup to make an
extra copy. If I don't write that archive directly to my backup drive,
it's not a problem to drop it into a folder that normally gets backed up
as a part of the daily backup process.  However, because I do that one
manually, it's a good example of why it's unwise to rely on backups that
require that you run them manually.


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Re: Advice on flashblocker.................

2016-12-22 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

marksatt...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 10:02:55 AM UTC-6, marks...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

I am using Flashblock 1.5.18, which has worked very well for a long time. For a 
while
now however, CNN in particular has been pushing video popups that launch when 
you
load an article and Flashblock does not stop them.  Very annoying, and wastes my
bandwidth.

Have you seen this behavior?  And do you have any suggestions?

I have not yet tried to contact Philip Chee to see if he shall be doing any 
more wore
on his Flashblock program.

Thank you. Mark


And a small correctionFox News is the big offender, not CNN.

Mark


Install a popup blocker.  I use uBlock Origin.
Going to the foxnews webpage resulted in uBlock blocking 11 popups.

Fox appears to be mostly Flash.  Some news sites have gone to html5.
The popups may be html5 so make sure your flash blocker also blocks html5.

Turning off JS would solve the problem but that presents its own problems and
I rarely turn that off.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread PhillipJones

Mason83 wrote:

On 22/12/2016 13:10, Ant wrote:

Ditto, but I am not getting any internal updates for v2.46 in my updated
64-bit W7 HPE SP1's SM v2.40 installation. What about the rest of you?


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/12/22/tears-of-joy/

ewong wrote:

Seriously though...  I do have one nagging feeling that updating for
Windows 64 bit users *might* have an issue.  If so, please post here
or on the newsgroups and I'll fix it.



Just updated to the Mac version.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread PhillipJones

sean wrote:

On 12/22/2016 11:33 AM, sean wrote:

On 12/22/2016 03:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund



2.46? downloaded from the main Seamonkey page, is this what I'm supposed
to have? doesn't look right :~/

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
Build identifier: 20160118183220



So the main page still downloads 2.40 even though there is mention of
the December 2016 release... I managed to find the 2.46 release here:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.46/linux-x86_64/en-US/

and About Seamonkey now reads:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20161213175921

sean


Just went to help menu check for updates 2.46 come right up. Installed 
and currently using (mac version)  I am using MacOS 12.2.2 the way the 
security is in Sierra if its defective it won't install.



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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-22 Thread Richmond
Hawker  writes:

> On 12/22/2016 8:00 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> I raised a bug here:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1325048
>>
>
> Thank you Richmond.
> I tried Ralph's work around GIF and mine doesn't do that for some reason.  I
> see your bug got declined as "invalid".
> Sounds like the fix is to change the user agent. What is the best way to do
> that these days? I had a plug in years ago for that but haven't had to do it
> in years.

I used "user agent switcher" as described by FRG in the bugzilla. Search
for that in addons. But you have to then download and import a list of
agents to get Firefox 49. Otherwise it's just i.e. and a few obscure
ones.

http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/
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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

This also works if you have enabled the search bar.

EE wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in



Why not just change it in the search bar?  It works that way, and it is 
more convenient to access as well.




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread EE

Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund

Does the website information refer to the SeaMonkey Download and 
Releases page?  I notice that 2.40 is still listed there.  The release 
is at the FTP site however.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
2.46 requires an SSE2 capable CPU under Windows. Linux versions should 
not need it.


Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hello,

I contributed some additional release notes here


Please feel free to comment, correct, add information, ...

CU

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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
If you got it from Adrian stay with 2.47. Not sure if the profiles are 
100% compatible between 2.46 and 2.47. The next version will likely be 
2.48. It might also not be available officially as a 64 bit Windows version.


FRG

Pat Connors wrote:
In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using 
2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is 
available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?


Currently it is not available at the SeaMonkey website so where are some 
getting the download?


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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

2016-12-22 Thread EE

John Duncan wrote:

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is
listed in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows
problem?


I am getting the same problem on SM 2.46 in OS X 10.11.6.

I can set the default search engine in the preferences dialog, but that
does not change the default search engine for the url bar; it is always
'DuckDuckGo'


Why not just change it in the search bar?  It works that way, and it is 
more convenient to access as well.


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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

I forced a refresh of the website with Ctrl-R and 2.46 now shows up on it.

FRG

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/22/2016 10:37 AM, Pat Connors wrote:

In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?

Currently it is not available at the SeaMonkey website so where are some
getting the download?



.  Although the URI says "ftp",
you must access this as a Web site via SeaMonkey or some other browser.
The FTP server was discontinued some time ago.



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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread Richmond
Pat Connors  writes:

> In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using 2.47 64
> bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is available for
> download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?
>
> Currently it is not available at the SeaMonkey website so where are some
> getting the download?

There is a 2.46 here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.46/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello,

I contributed some additional release notes here


Please feel free to comment, correct, add information, ...

CU

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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-22 Thread Hawker

On 12/22/2016 8:00 AM, Richmond wrote:

I raised a bug here:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1325048



Thank you Richmond.
I tried Ralph's work around GIF and mine doesn't do that for some 
reason.  I see your bug got declined as "invalid".
Sounds like the fix is to change the user agent. What is the best way to 
do that these days? I had a plug in years ago for that but haven't had 
to do it in years.

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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

2016-12-22 Thread John Duncan

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Use the force (or google search).

Known bug. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881 for 
a workaround.


Or open Sidebar. Set search engine and do one search from there. Default 
engine should be set to this one then.


FRG


John Duncan wrote:

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is
listed in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows
problem?


I am getting the same problem on SM 2.46 in OS X 10.11.6.

I can set the default search engine in the preferences dialog, but 
that does not change the default search engine for the url bar; it is 
always 'DuckDuckGo'



Doh. Much appreciated! Forgot to check the bug report for workaround.

Thanks.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread sean

On 12/22/2016 11:33 AM, sean wrote:

On 12/22/2016 03:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund



2.46? downloaded from the main Seamonkey page, is this what I'm supposed
to have? doesn't look right :~/

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
Build identifier: 20160118183220



So the main page still downloads 2.40 even though there is mention of 
the December 2016 release... I managed to find the 2.46 release here: 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.46/linux-x86_64/en-US/


and About Seamonkey now reads:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

Build identifier: 20161213175921

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Re: 2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/22/2016 10:37 AM, Pat Connors wrote:
> In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using 
> 2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is 
> available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?
> 
> Currently it is not available at the SeaMonkey website so where are some 
> getting the download?
> 

.  Although the URI says "ftp",
you must access this as a Web site via SeaMonkey or some other browser.
The FTP server was discontinued some time ago.

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2.46 version

2016-12-22 Thread Pat Connors
In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using 
2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is 
available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?


Currently it is not available at the SeaMonkey website so where are some 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread sean

On 12/22/2016 03:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund



2.46? downloaded from the main Seamonkey page, is this what I'm supposed 
to have? doesn't look right :~/


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40

Build identifier: 20160118183220

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Always good to have then so you know no one tampered with the files.

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:36 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Its a self extracting 7zip. When corrupt you won't be able to install it.

FRG

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
through the Internet.





Then why have all previous versions of SeaMonkey -- and the latest
releases of Thunderbird and Firefox -- have checksums (also known as
hashcodes)?



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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Use the force (or google search).

Known bug. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881 for 
a workaround.


Or open Sidebar. Set search engine and do one search from there. Default 
engine should be set to this one then.


FRG


John Duncan wrote:

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is
listed in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows
problem?


I am getting the same problem on SM 2.46 in OS X 10.11.6.

I can set the default search engine in the preferences dialog, but that 
does not change the default search engine for the url bar; it is always 
'DuckDuckGo'


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/22/2016 9:36 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Its a self extracting 7zip. When corrupt you won't be able to install it.
> 
> FRG
> 
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>>
>> I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
>> that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
>> through the Internet.
>>
> 

Then why have all previous versions of SeaMonkey -- and the latest
releases of Thunderbird and Firefox -- have checksums (also known as
hashcodes)?

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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

2016-12-22 Thread John Duncan

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is
listed in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows
problem?


I am getting the same problem on SM 2.46 in OS X 10.11.6.

I can set the default search engine in the preferences dialog, but that 
does not change the default search engine for the url bar; it is always 
'DuckDuckGo'

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Its a self extracting 7zip. When corrupt you won't be able to install it.

FRG

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
through the Internet.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
> 
> Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
> man.. little DID I know.
> 
> Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...
> 
> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!
> 
> So please check out [1] or [2].
> 
> Please note that the website information, while updated for
> 2.40, still requires a bit more work.
> 
> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
> 
> Edmund
> 

I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
through the Internet.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
Edmund Wong wrote:
> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
> 
> Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
> man.. little DID I know.
> 
> Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...
> 
> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!
> 
> So please check out [1] or [2].
> 
> Please note that the website information, while updated for
> 2.40, still requires a bit more work.
> 
> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
> 
> Edmund
> 

Well... um.. *embarrassed grin*

I'm sure everyone knows that my intention was to s/2.40/2.46/,
in my haste, I just did the c&p and missed the 2nd part. :(

*sigh*

What I *MEANT* to post:

> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.46!
>
> So please check out [1] or [2].
>
> Please note that the website information, while updated for
> 2.46, still requires a bit more work.
>
> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
>


Though, i have to admit, that last part was certainly applicable more or
less.

Edmund
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Re: Am I doing this correctly ?

2016-12-22 Thread NFN Smith

All good stuff. A couple of additional thoughts inserted...


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


I have files unrelated to SeaMonkey that are no less important. I
do a system-wide backup every week.


In my case, nightly (mission-critical work computer). The first week
I had a computer (a PC-XT in 1985), I lost a whole day's work by
failing to back it up. Ever since, my motto has been, "If you love
me, back me up."

Some basic principles all users should follow for backup (I'm sure
you know this, but other readers may not):


I would go one step further -- think through your potential recovery 
scenarios. There's enough variants that one particular backup 
methodology or tool may not fit all the possibilities for recovery. 
There's a difference between doing a bare-metal recovery following a 
device or controller failure and a recovery from an "oops" overwrite or 
deletion of one or two critical files.




1) Do it automatically. If you have to think about it, you'll forget
or make excuses, and when disaster comes you'll lose something
important because you didn't back it up.

2) Separate the backup media from the source computer. If the backup
is killed by the same disaster as the computer, you have no backup.


And don't rely on a single media set that's continuously attached, 
although this works against point 1). Now that one of the varieties of 
malware that we have to account for includes ransomware, you need to 
make sure that you account for the possibility of that kind of thing 
encrypting your backups. Plus, there's always the the matter of making 
sure you have off-site backups (think: building burning down, or a 
lost/stolen laptop).


A further consideration: cloud-based backups can be one way of quickly 
getting off-site, but it's one that is good not to rely on entirely.  If 
you can't get to your backups (no internet connectivity, DDoS of 
provider, provider failure, etc.) you have no backup.


Years ago, I was backing up a desktop PC onto floppy disks, and I had 
the habit of using just one set of floppies, writing a new backup over 
the previous one. One time, I was doing a backup when the hard drive was 
in the process of failing, and I had a crash while I was backing up. 
Thus, the new backup set was unusable, and the old backup was no longer 
available.  Following a reboot, I was able to run a new complete backup, 
but I learned that it's important never to discard/obliterate an old 
backup, until you have a usable one to replace it with.




3) Use a system that doesn't impact your lifestyle or workstyle. If
it's a PITA, you'll find an excuse to abort it or cancel it, and then
you'll have no backup.

4) Test the restore function periodically. If you can't restore, you
have no backup.


Absolutely. Think: fire drill.  Years ago, I had a major disaster when a 
server failed, and then we discovered that the controller of the backup 
device had silently failed some time previously.  We didn't have any 
backups.


Keeping this on a slightly Seamonkey focus: several months ago, I was 
having problems with my inbox and indexing (which I discussed in this 
newsgroup), and more than once, I lost most of the messages in my POP 
inbox. I was grateful to have daily backups to draw from, and I needed 
them more than once.  For that, a file-centric backup (where I could 
recover just my inbox, and not even the entire profile) was what I 
needed. A full-image backup (including boot sectors and Windows 
registry) would have been far less useful for that kind of recovery.


On my own system, I do have things set to do nightly backups (and I know 
how to get to the profile data in the Windows directory hierarchy), but 
with my main Seamonkey profile, I periodically use MozBackup to make an 
extra copy. If I don't write that archive directly to my backup drive, 
it's not a problem to drop it into a folder that normally gets backed up 
as a part of the daily backup process.  However, because I do that one 
manually, it's a good example of why it's unwise to rely on backups that 
require that you run them manually.


Smith



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

On 12/22/2016 5:13 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund



Now that's a Christmas Present I can get behind!  I'd made myself a
promise that if there wasn't a new version of Seamonkey by the New Year,
I'd be converting over to Firefox and Thunderbird.  I already did on my
laptop since I travel around with that thing and can't be 100% sure of
every wireless access point I use, but I was hanging in there on my
desktop with Seamonkey.  Thanks, and Happy Holidays to everyone
involved.  Can't wait till it shows up in the Ubuntuzilla PPA!


Ditto. I just upgraded my 64-bit Debian stable/Jessie's with the 64-bit 
version. So far, so good. I will wait for the internal updates in 64-bit 
Windows 7 HPE SP1. :)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread TCW

On 12/22/2016 4:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
On 22.12.2016 13:31, Ant wrote:
> Also, someone said SM's home page
> still shows v2.40! :(

Hi,

see [Bug 1325353] New: Main page still shows SeaMonkey 2.40 as latest
Release 

CU

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund



Now that's a Christmas Present I can get behind!  I'd made myself a 
promise that if there wasn't a new version of Seamonkey by the New Year, 
I'd be converting over to Firefox and Thunderbird.  I already did on my 
laptop since I travel around with that thing and can't be 100% sure of 
every wireless access point I use, but I was hanging in there on my 
desktop with Seamonkey.  Thanks, and Happy Holidays to everyone 
involved.  Can't wait till it shows up in the Ubuntuzilla PPA!



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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-22 Thread Richmond
I raised a bug here:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1325048
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant

On 12/22/2016 4:26 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 22/12/2016 13:10, Ant wrote:

Ditto, but I am not getting any internal updates for v2.46 in my updated
64-bit W7 HPE SP1's SM v2.40 installation. What about the rest of you?


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/12/22/tears-of-joy/


Oops. I mised that! I need to sleep!  Also, someone said SM's home page 
still shows v2.40! :(

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Mason83
On 22/12/2016 13:10, Ant wrote:
> Ditto, but I am not getting any internal updates for v2.46 in my updated 
> 64-bit W7 HPE SP1's SM v2.40 installation. What about the rest of you?

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/12/22/tears-of-joy/

ewong wrote:
> Seriously though...  I do have one nagging feeling that updating for
> Windows 64 bit users *might* have an issue.  If so, please post here
> or on the newsgroups and I'll fix it.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Ant
Ditto, but I am not getting any internal updates for v2.46 in my updated 
64-bit W7 HPE SP1's SM v2.40 installation. What about the rest of you?


On 12/22/2016 3:46 AM, null wrote:

-
You deserve a "God Bless You". Congratulations for all the team.
Is this a Christmas gift?
On 2016-12-22 10:13, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund






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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread null

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You deserve a "God Bless You". Congratulations for all the team.
Is this a Christmas gift?
On 2016-12-22 10:13, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund


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SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-22 Thread Edmund Wong
Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund
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