can't download SeaMonkey (insecure connection on Firefox)

[Simon Charles]

Hi

I would love to try SeaMonkey, but I can't download it!

I am a long-term Mozilla user trying to download it from 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases - using Firefox on Windows 7.  
Frustratingly, I just get the following 'insecure connection' warning 
(with no obvious option for circumventing it):


---
Your connection is not secure
The owner of download.cdn.mozilla.net has configured their website 
improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has 
not connected to this website.
This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible 
to add an exception for this certificate.

Learn more...
[BUTTON] Go back  [BUTTON] Open Login Page
[BUTTON]Advanced
---

which gives the impression that Firefox doesn't want you to download 
SeaMonkey, that one part of Mozilla is not a good fit with another part.


The advice given in the Windows Installation Instructions on 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall (text below) 
is no help if there is no advice on getting beyond the warning page.


---
Note: Windows may warn you that it could not verify the publisher when 
you try to run the installer. This is because the SeaMonkey installer 
for Windows is not digitally signed. As long as you downloaded the 
installer from either www.seamonkey-project.org or mozilla.org, you can 
safely ignore it (more experienced users may use the checksums linked to 
from the download pages to verify the integrity of the installer).

---

Looking forward to trying SeaMonkey - and seeing an update on the 
Documentation so that other people don't get put off and abandon trying 
to download it (as I nearly have been).


Thanks

SC

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Thank you Thank you (I'm not going crazy!!) was: Re: Seamonkey Download

[Daniel]

On 10/03/2017 9:30 AM, MozillianMonkey wrote:

Download a file then close Seamonkey.

Now cannot find where the file went.

Seamonkey does not remember what it last did !
Seamonkey has no open last download folder or anything related.

Anyway I always use the default Seamonkey download folder but where is
it ???


Thank you, MozillianMonkey, thank you for "telling me" I'm not going crazy!!

In late Feb (26th Feb, my time zone), I made a post here called ""Save 
File" location", I stated that I was trying to download LibreOffice, and 
a lot of action was occurring on my Internet connection, but I had no 
indication, in SeaMonkey, of where the file was saved!


As I recall ...

1.  I went to the Web Page for LibreOffice,
2.  Clicked on "Download File" or some such,
3.	That took me to donate.libreoffice.org and a small page opened asking 
if I wanted to download the file.

4.  I click "Download" or whatever 

and that was it  apart from the file actually being downloaded 
somewhere!! I did not get a screen asking where I wanted the file saved 
and the Download Manager did not open to indicate that a file was being 
downloaded ... but I could see the activity ooccuring on my Internet 
connection!


Eventually I have had to install Firefox so that I get told where my 
file is being downloaded to!!


Two people, apparently, haveing the same problem with the same SM 
version 2.46 on the same OS (Win7) ... does that need a bug posted, I 
wonder??


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

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Re: Seamonkey Download

[JAS]

MozillianMonkey wrote:

Download a file then close Seamonkey.

Now cannot find where the file went.

Seamonkey does not remember what it last did !
Seamonkey has no open last download folder or anything related.

Anyway I always use the default Seamonkey download folder but where is
it ???
Are you using another downloader besider the one in SeaMonkey? At times 
I use Download Healper.

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Re: Seamonkey Download

[WaltS48]

MozillianMonkey wrote:

Download a file then close Seamonkey.

Now cannot find where the file went.

Seamonkey does not remember what it last did !
Seamonkey has no open last download folder or anything related.

Anyway I always use the default Seamonkey download folder but where is
it ???


My default folder is Downloads.

I just downloaded a file.
The Downloads Manager opened, showing me the file name, progress, time 
left, and other information.
The Status Bar of the Download Manager shows me the location of the file 
and the file.

My Downloads folder has the completed download.
The Downloads Manager stays open until the user closes it.

From the Menu Bar in SeaMonkey, using Tools > Download Manager opens it 
with all the information for my download.


I believe Paul provided the settings information to check.
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Re: Seamonkey Download

[Paul B. Gallagher]

MozillianMonkey wrote:


Download a file then close Seamonkey.

Now cannot find where the file went.

Seamonkey does not remember what it last did !
Seamonkey has no open last download folder or anything related.

Anyway I always use the default Seamonkey download folder but where is
it ???


Edit | Preferences | Browser | Downloads

When saving a file
(o) Save files to [Downloads] [Choose folder...]
(•) Always ask me where to save files

Download history
Remove download entries [When they have completed/When quitting 
SeaMonkey/Never]



If it didn't ask and you didn't tell it where to put the file, the 
folder listed in the first option is the place to look.


If the option you've set is "Downloads," click the "Choose folder" 
button to see what that means. You don't actually have to choose a 
folder, just cancel out once you see what it means.


If the Download Manager has nothing in its history, that doesn't mean 
the /file/ is gone, just the DM's memory of it.


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Seamonkey Download

[MozillianMonkey]

Download a file then close Seamonkey.

Now cannot find where the file went.

Seamonkey does not remember what it last did !
Seamonkey has no open last download folder or anything related.

Anyway I always use the default Seamonkey download folder but where is 
it ???

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Re: Cannot compile 2.46

[P. H. Madore]

Here is moz.configure:

# -*- Mode: python; c-basic-offset: 4; indent-tabs-mode: nil; tab-width: 40
-*-
# vim: set filetype=python:
# This Source Code Form is subject to the terms of the Mozilla Public
# License, v. 2.0. If a copy of the MPL was not distributed with this
# file, You can obtain one at http://mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/.

include('mozilla/moz.configure')

I don't see a file called .mozconfig.

I also did not check out anything, I only downloaded the source tarball
from Seamonkey-Project.org

*phm* 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl  wrote:

> >> configure: error: cannot determine icu version number from uvernum.h
> >> header file
>
> Post you .mozconfig file. It looks like it probably tries to use the icu
> system filens and not the ones provided in the mozilla tree. Did you do a
> make client.mk checkout in the 2.46 comm-release dir?
>
> FRG
>
> P. H. Madore wrote:
>
>> This is a new issue for me. I was using 2.40 until today. Now I can't use
>> anything. Something about "old-configure." Here is the complete
>> configuration log:
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Re: Copy a siungle message folder from one machine to another

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:


My Linux machine running SeaMonkey 2.46 had a major malfunction.
I had to use a WinXP machine with SeaMonkey 2.40 temporarily.
I have copies of all received emails in a single folder.
Using 'sneaker net' how do I copy them to my now good Linux machine?

I know it's fairly simple as I had to do multiple transfers between
machines about a year ago when I had multiple hardware problems.

But I've forgotten how.
Suggestions please.
TIA


Assuming SM will run on both machines:

1) On the source machine, launch SM, create a temporary message folder 
with a distinctive name (I like to use "Temp") in Mail/News, move the 
desired message to that folder. Close SM.


2) On the target machine, close SM.

3) Locate your profile folders on both machines, you should see a file 
called "Temp" (no extension) on the source machine. Copy it into the 
corresponding folder on the target machine.


4) On the target machine, launch SM, you should see the "Temp" folder in 
Mail/News. Drag and drop the message to the desired location, delete "Temp."


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Copy a siungle message folder from one machine to another

[Richard Owlett]

My Linux machine running SeaMonkey 2.46 had a major malfunction.
I had to use a WinXP machine with SeaMonkey 2.40 temporarily.
I have copies of all received emails in a single folder.
Using 'sneaker net' how do I copy them to my now good Linux machine?

I know it's fairly simple as I had to do multiple transfers between 
machines about a year ago when I had multiple hardware problems.


But I've forgotten how.
Suggestions please.
TIA
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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

[TCW]

On 3/9/2017 8:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

TCW wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:57:36 -0500, Arnie Goetchius
 wrote:


TCW wrote:

On 3/8/2017 3:47 PM, njoracle wrote:

TCW wrote:

On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM.
What
I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no new
messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 and
Win
10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.

Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to start
almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several desktops
and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.



No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.


Are you getting 1-2 seconds?

When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. Sending
an email or sending a message is almost immediate.



So, a couple questions:

1. Are you leaving mail on server?

Yes

2. How much mail are we talking about?

About 9000. I'm in the process of deleting everything on the server but the last
two months worth. I have a spare computer where all emails are stored so I don't
really need to leave on the server.

3. What Internet speed do you have?

36 MPS down and 27 MPS up

4. Network drivers up to date?

Don't know. I will check

5. Have you rebooted your Internet modem or modem+router lately?

No, I will do that after I finish with today's work


6. What are your POP3 server settings? Meaning, what server name+port, what
connection security (STARTTLS or SSL/TLS), Authentication Method?

Inbound.att.net  port 995
Connection SSL/TLS Authentication Normal Password


I know a lot of Internet providers are starting to clamp down on insecure email
checking.

Another thing you could try is installing Adrian Kalla's build of SM 2.48 from
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ from
the Latest Comm Release 32 or 64-bit build folders. It is stable and built from
Mozilla source. I myself am using 2.49 beta but I used the 2.48 that Adrian
built and it was rock stable.

Thanks for all of the tips. I was running Adrian's 2.48 but went back to Mozilla
2.46. I may go back if the other stuff I'm doing doesn't work.

Many, many thanks for the questions you ask, I really appreciate the time it
took you to put that all together.


No worries. I thought that if you'd have a ton of email in an inbox it
might just be taking a long time to hit an Inbox with thousands of
messages. That *could* be it, especially if they're all on the server.


That was definitely the problem. I deleted all messages from 2016 and earlier
and have now reduced the response time from 15 seconds to 5 seconds. I can live
with that. Thanks again for the tip



Thanks for reporting back.
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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

[Arnie Goetchius]

TCW wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:57:36 -0500, Arnie Goetchius
>  wrote:
> 
>> TCW wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2017 3:47 PM, njoracle wrote:
 TCW wrote:
> On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in 
>> SM.
>> What
>> I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 
>> seconds
>> before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are 
>> no new
>> messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
>> messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 
>> and
>> Win
>> 10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use 
>> to start
>> almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several 
>> desktops
>> and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.
>>
>
> No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.

 Are you getting 1-2 seconds?

 When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. 
 Sending
 an email or sending a message is almost immediate.

>>>
>>> So, a couple questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Are you leaving mail on server?
>> Yes
>>> 2. How much mail are we talking about?
>> About 9000. I'm in the process of deleting everything on the server but the 
>> last
>> two months worth. I have a spare computer where all emails are stored so I 
>> don't
>> really need to leave on the server.
>>> 3. What Internet speed do you have?
>> 36 MPS down and 27 MPS up
>>> 4. Network drivers up to date?
>> Don't know. I will check
>>> 5. Have you rebooted your Internet modem or modem+router lately?
>> No, I will do that after I finish with today's work
>>
>>> 6. What are your POP3 server settings? Meaning, what server name+port, what
>>> connection security (STARTTLS or SSL/TLS), Authentication Method?
>> Inbound.att.net  port 995
>> Connection SSL/TLS Authentication Normal Password
>>>
>>> I know a lot of Internet providers are starting to clamp down on insecure 
>>> email
>>> checking.
>>>
>>> Another thing you could try is installing Adrian Kalla's build of SM 2.48 
>>> from
>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
>>> from
>>> the Latest Comm Release 32 or 64-bit build folders. It is stable and built 
>>> from
>>> Mozilla source. I myself am using 2.49 beta but I used the 2.48 that Adrian
>>> built and it was rock stable.
>> Thanks for all of the tips. I was running Adrian's 2.48 but went back to 
>> Mozilla
>> 2.46. I may go back if the other stuff I'm doing doesn't work.
>>
>> Many, many thanks for the questions you ask, I really appreciate the time it
>> took you to put that all together.
> 
> No worries. I thought that if you'd have a ton of email in an inbox it
> might just be taking a long time to hit an Inbox with thousands of
> messages. That *could* be it, especially if they're all on the server.
> 
That was definitely the problem. I deleted all messages from 2016 and earlier
and have now reduced the response time from 15 seconds to 5 seconds. I can live
with that. Thanks again for the tip
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