Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager

2017-05-12 Thread Dirk Munk

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 5/12/17 at 10:47 AM, David E. Ross's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

I have a problem with the data manager / password manager.

After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message 
appears:


A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or 
let the

script continue.

Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779

At least that was the message when I last saw it.

Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while,
until finally I could use the manager.

It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did 
that.
Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at 
least it

works without clicking 'continue' several times.

However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the
problem?



Do not use the Data Manager.  Instead, get the Passwords button (an
extension) from
, 

install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include 
it.
 From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange 
key.



David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it
comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working
O.K. No need for any Extensions!!



The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain.
The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once.

Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the
master password merely to display the domains and user IDs.  The master
password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords.

With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to
change a selected user ID.  With passwords also displayed, the Passwords
buttonallows the user to change a selected user password.  I cannot find
a Data Manager capability for such editing.

Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a
password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and
how many times it has been used.  No such options exist for the Data
Manager.



You can also use 



Interesting, so there are two ways to find passwords in SeaMonkey, 
thanks for pointing this out.


I don't like that, it is the Microsoft way of making interfaces. 
Something like four different ways of choosing a font in an application, 
with four different interfaces.


There should be one way, perhaps callable from different places in the 
interface, but one interface. I'm sure it contributes to the stability 
and the maintainability of the application.


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Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager

2017-05-12 Thread Ed Mullen
On 5/12/17 at 10:47 AM, David E. Ross's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

I have a problem with the data manager / password manager.

After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears:

A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the
script continue.

Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779

At least that was the message when I last saw it.

Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while,
until finally I could use the manager.

It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that.
Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it
works without clicking 'continue' several times.

However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the
problem?



Do not use the Data Manager.  Instead, get the Passwords button (an
extension) from
,
install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it.
 From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key.


David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it
comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working
O.K. No need for any Extensions!!



The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain.
The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once.

Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the
master password merely to display the domains and user IDs.  The master
password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords.

With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to
change a selected user ID.  With passwords also displayed, the Passwords
buttonallows the user to change a selected user password.  I cannot find
a Data Manager capability for such editing.

Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a
password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and
how many times it has been used.  No such options exist for the Data
Manager.



You can also use 

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Spamassissin Mailing List and Filters

2017-05-12 Thread Rob Steinmetz
I recently had a problem with SpamAssassin on my email server. In order 
get information I subscribed to the SpamAssissin mailing list at 
apache.org. As I do with all mailing lists I set up a mail filter to 
move all mail from spamassassin.apache.org to a Folder called 
[Spamassassin] on Local Folders.


It worked as expected when setup However now that filter seems to get 
corrupted every time I close SeaMonkey.


The name gets changes to SpamAssassinYes and a bunch of nonsense gets 
inserted into the various fields.


I've tried renaming the filter and the folder but it keeps happening.

Any clues would be helpful.

--
Rob
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Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager

2017-05-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/11/2017 9:58 PM, Daniel wrote:
> On 12/05/2017 12:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/11/2017 6:06 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> I have a problem with the data manager / password manager.
>>>
>>> After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears:
>>>
>>> A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
>>> You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the
>>> script continue.
>>>
>>> Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779
>>>
>>> At least that was the message when I last saw it.
>>>
>>> Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while,
>>> until finally I could use the manager.
>>>
>>> It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did that.
>>> Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at least it
>>> works without clicking 'continue' several times.
>>>
>>> However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the
>>> problem?
>>>
>>
>> Do not use the Data Manager.  Instead, get the Passwords button (an
>> extension) from
>> ,
>> install it, and then customize your menu bar or tool bar to include it.
>> From the Customize Toolbar window, its icon is a yellow and orange key.
>>
> David, why shouldn't Dirk use the Data Manager/Password Manager as it 
> comes in SeaMonkey?? I just clicked mine up and it seems to be working 
> O.K. No need for any Extensions!!
> 

The Data Manager only displays passwords for a single specified domain.
The Passwords button displays the entire password database all at once.

Note, however, the Passwords button requires the user to enter the
master password merely to display the domains and user IDs.  The master
password must be entered a second time to display the actual passwords.

With only user IDs displayed, the Passwords button allows the user to
change a selected user ID.  With passwords also displayed, the Passwords
buttonallows the user to change a selected user password.  I cannot find
a Data Manager capability for such editing.

Finally, the Passwords button provides options for displaying when a
password wasfirst used, when a password was last used, last changed, and
how many times it has been used.  No such options exist for the Data
Manager.

-- 
David E. Ross


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Re: Problem with the data manager / password manager

2017-05-12 Thread Dirk Munk

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
This is a known problem with 2.46 and up. It is now in the release 
notes for 2.48 Beta 1:


+++ snip +++

If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is 
busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* 
files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These 
contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next 
start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please back them 
up before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so 
far no coding error has been found.



+++ snap +++

frg


Thanks, that worked.

Actually when SeaMonkey is running there are three webappsstore files:

webappsstore.sqlite
webappsstore.sqlite-shm
webappsstore.sqlite-wal

After shutdown, only webappsstore.sqlite is left. On my system it had a 
size of about 100MB. I moved it to my Documents map, and restarted 
SeaMonkey. I got a new webappsstore.sqlite with a size of just 128kB. It 
seems all passwords are there, and the problems are gone.




Dirk Munk wrote:

I have a problem with the data manager / password manager.

After starting it up, it takes some time and then this message appears:

A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. 
You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let 
the script continue.


Script: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js:779

At least that was the message when I last saw it.

Every time I clicked 'continue' the message came back after a while, 
until finally I could use the manager.


It was also possible to give this answer automatically, so I did 
that. Now it takes a long time before I can use the manager, but at 
least it works without clicking 'continue' several times.


However something is wrong, what can that be, and how can I solve the 
problem?







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