Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Glen via support-seamonkey 

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Glen wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46


Do you use Avast?  I received a similar message a short time ago.  How I 
resolved it: I added the
seamonkey update web address to the white-list within Avast.  Problem was 
solved. I hope it helps.


By update web address, do you mean https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ ?



I added the following to "Exclusions" within Avast: 
https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/%PRODUCT%/%VERSION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/update.xml
If you go to Seamonkey's browser settings, that is the path used to 
check for updates.  And since I added that path to the Exclusions in 
Avast, I never received the warning messages again. If I recall, it all 
started when I updated Avast to the next available update. So, I'm 
assuming, they made some changes on their end.  Maybe it will work for 
you as well.



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Re: Crashes

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Ken Rudolph wrote:
> SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently 
> way too often.  I
> immediately get the window that allows SM to restore all tabs and windows; 
> but when I do entries in
> the process of being written have disappeared.  This is especially annoying 
> in Composer when I'm
> editing a web site with the HTML composer included with SeaMonkey.  In fact 
> it is more than
> annoying; it's something that I have to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving 
> does help a bit; but if
> I forget it is a disaster.)
> 
> So, the question:  is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app 
> available that wouldn't be
> subject to a SM crash?  It would be nice if such a thing existed in Firefox 
> or Thunderbird, or as a
> separate program.  After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to 
> edit my web site I can't
> imagine using another program; but if Mozilla doesn't have one, can somebody 
> suggest a similar
> "free" HTML editing program that would work just as efficiently?
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
I use Pagebreeze http://www.pagebreeze.com/
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Re: Crashes (W10 pro, 64b, desktop)

2017-06-27 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/27/17 9:21 PM, bo1953 wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and
recently way too often.  I immediately get the window that allows SM to
restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of
being written have disappeared.  This is especially annoying in Composer
when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with
SeaMonkey.  In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have
to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget
it is a disaster.)

So, the question:  is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app
available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash?  It would be nice if
such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate
program.  After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit
my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla
doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing
program that would work just as efficiently?

Thanks much.



I, too, have a great deal of crashes over the last month or so. Thought 
it was just me.


It happens when at no particular website, just determines it is time to 
crash and does so...


Can be very annoying if trying to complete a transaction or in the 
middle of something for a client.


Suggestions??

TIA - bo1953



Start your own thread and don't hijack one about a completely different 
problem is mine.



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Re: Crashes

2017-06-27 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/27/17 6:46 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:
SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and 
recently way too often.  I immediately get the window that allows SM to 
restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of 
being written have disappeared.  This is especially annoying in Composer 
when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with 
SeaMonkey.  In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have 
to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget 
it is a disaster.)


So, the question:  is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app 
available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash?  It would be nice if 
such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate 
program.  After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit 
my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla 
doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing 
program that would work just as efficiently?


Thanks much.



Have you tried loading the web page into the browser, use Tools > Web 
Development > Toggle Tools and editing it from there?


Knowledge of HTML and CSS may be required.

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Re: Crashes (W10 pro, 64b, desktop)

2017-06-27 Thread bo1953 

Ken Rudolph wrote:

SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and
recently way too often.  I immediately get the window that allows SM to
restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of
being written have disappeared.  This is especially annoying in Composer
when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with
SeaMonkey.  In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have
to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget
it is a disaster.)

So, the question:  is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app
available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash?  It would be nice if
such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate
program.  After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit
my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla
doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing
program that would work just as efficiently?

Thanks much.



I, too, have a great deal of crashes over the last month or so. Thought 
it was just me.


It happens when at no particular website, just determines it is time to 
crash and does so...


Can be very annoying if trying to complete a transaction or in the 
middle of something for a client.


Suggestions??

TIA - bo1953
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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/27/17 3:10 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 1:08 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46



Sounds like a malware attack to me.


I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found nothing



Is there a specific web site/page where you get this message, or it just occurs 
on any site?


I get the message when I click on Help and then Check For Updates



Probably your AV program then.

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Re: Crashes

2017-06-27 Thread Richard Alan 
Ken Rudolph wrote:

> but if Mozilla doesn't have one,
> can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing program that would
> work just as efficiently?

Since Composer is decades old, without updates, you may like BlueGriffon 
which is an offshoot and has been in development for many years. It's 
latest update was Feb 24, 2017. There are free, and paid, versions. The 
free one doesn't include the CSS editor. (Do you use CSS?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueGriffon

http://bluegriffon.org/
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Re: Crashes

2017-06-27 Thread Lee 
On 6/27/17, Ken Rudolph  wrote:
> SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and
> recently way too often.  I immediately get the window that allows SM to
> restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of
> being written have disappeared.  This is especially annoying in Composer
> when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with
> SeaMonkey.  In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have
> to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget
> it is a disaster.)

just out of curiosity - are you using the 32 or 64bit version of SeaMonkey?

> So, the question:  is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app
> available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash?  It would be nice if
> such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate
> program.  After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit
> my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla
> doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing
> program that would work just as efficiently?

You can try searching the archives or take a look at
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors
the question seems to come up all too often ... with no satisfactory answer :(

Regards,
Lee
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Crashes

2017-06-27 Thread Ken Rudolph 
SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and 
recently way too often.  I immediately get the window that allows SM to 
restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of 
being written have disappeared.  This is especially annoying in Composer 
when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with 
SeaMonkey.  In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have 
to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget 
it is a disaster.)


So, the question:  is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app 
available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash?  It would be nice if 
such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate 
program.  After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit 
my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla 
doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing 
program that would work just as efficiently?


Thanks much.

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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Glen wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
>> Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
>> release of anything
>> higher than 2.46
>>
> Do you use Avast?  I received a similar message a short time ago.  How I 
> resolved it: I added the
> seamonkey update web address to the white-list within Avast.  Problem was 
> solved. I hope it helps.

By update web address, do you mean https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ ?
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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Ray_Net wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote on 27-06-17 21:36:
>> Arnie Goetchius wrote on 27-06-17 21:10:
>>> WaltS48 wrote:
 On 6/27/17 1:08 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec
>>> 2016
>>> Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no 
>>> "official" release of anything
>>> higher than 2.46
>>>
>> Sounds like a malware attack to me.
>>
> I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found nothing
>
 Is there a specific web site/page where you get this message, or it just 
 occurs on any site?

>>> I get the message when I click on Help and then Check For Updates
>> When i do the same step .. SM told me that there is no update available.
>> And this is OK ... what is the problem ? 2.46 is the latest stable officila 
>> release, so no need to
>> update.
> Soory I just realise that instead of having the message "there is no update 
> available" you have the
> message "Something is preventing..."
I have a couple of CPUs running 2.46 and a couple running 2.51. It only happens 
on the ones using
2.46. On the ones with 2.51m I do get "there is no update available"
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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Ray_Net 

Ray_Net wrote on 27-06-17 21:36:

Arnie Goetchius wrote on 27-06-17 21:10:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 1:08 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no 
"official" release of anything

higher than 2.46


Sounds like a malware attack to me.

I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found 
nothing


Is there a specific web site/page where you get this message, or it 
just occurs on any site?



I get the message when I click on Help and then Check For Updates

When i do the same step .. SM told me that there is no update available.
And this is OK ... what is the problem ? 2.46 is the latest stable 
officila release, so no need to update.
Soory I just realise that instead of having the message "there is no 
update available" you have the message "Something is preventing..."

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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Ray_Net 

Arnie Goetchius wrote on 27-06-17 21:10:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 1:08 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46


Sounds like a malware attack to me.


I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found nothing


Is there a specific web site/page where you get this message, or it just occurs 
on any site?


I get the message when I click on Help and then Check For Updates

When i do the same step .. SM told me that there is no update available.
And this is OK ... what is the problem ? 2.46 is the latest stable 
officila release, so no need to update.

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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Glen wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
>> Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
>> release of anything
>> higher than 2.46
>>
> Do you use Avast?  I received a similar message a short time ago.  How I 
> resolved it: I added the
> seamonkey update web address to the white-list within Avast.  Problem was 
> solved. I hope it helps.
I use AVG which was taken over by Avast so it is a possibility. I will check 
out AVG to see where
the white list is.
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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
WaltS48 wrote:
> On 6/27/17 1:08 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
 https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
 Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no 
 "official" release of anything
 higher than 2.46

>>>
>>> Sounds like a malware attack to me.
>>>
>> I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found nothing
>>
> 
> Is there a specific web site/page where you get this message, or it just 
> occurs on any site?
> 
I get the message when I click on Help and then Check For Updates
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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Glen via support-seamonkey 

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46

Do you use Avast?  I received a similar message a short time ago.  How I 
resolved it: I added the seamonkey update web address to the white-list 
within Avast.  Problem was solved. I hope it helps.

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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/27/17 1:08 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46



Sounds like a malware attack to me.


I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found nothing



Is there a specific web site/page where you get this message, or it just 
occurs on any site?


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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
WaltS48 wrote:
> On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
>> Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
>> release of anything
>> higher than 2.46
>>
> 
> Sounds like a malware attack to me.
> 
I think you are right but I ran Malwarebytes and AVG they found nothing
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Re: "Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/27/17 11:49 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46



Sounds like a malware attack to me.

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"Something is Preventing Seamonkey From Updating Securely"

2017-06-27 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
I do have the latest version (2.46)downloaded from 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ in Dec 2016
Any suggestions on to get rid of this? As far as I know, there no "official" 
release of anything
higher than 2.46
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Re: Breakpoint Exception

2017-06-27 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/27/17 10:22 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 26/06/2017 22:25, Tom Pamin wrote:


On shutdown several times I got a breakpoint exception error for plugin
container.exe. My PC then shutdown normally. I've read this has to do
with Firefox, so maybe SM too. Anyone know how to fix this?


Are you saying you have this issue when using FF, or SM, or both?

Which versions?

Is this on Windows? Vista, 7, 8, 10?

Regards.

Using Win 7 and SM 2.46. I don't really understand the purpose of the 
plugin container in SM, but I'm reading you can turn it off if you want.



If the plugin crashes, the whole browser shouldn't.

With it disabled, the whole browser will crash.

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Re: Breakpoint Exception

2017-06-27 Thread Tom Pamin 

Mason83 wrote:

On 26/06/2017 22:25, Tom Pamin wrote:


On shutdown several times I got a breakpoint exception error for plugin
container.exe. My PC then shutdown normally. I've read this has to do
with Firefox, so maybe SM too. Anyone know how to fix this?


Are you saying you have this issue when using FF, or SM, or both?

Which versions?

Is this on Windows? Vista, 7, 8, 10?

Regards.

Using Win 7 and SM 2.46. I don't really understand the purpose of the 
plugin container in SM, but I'm reading you can turn it off if you want.

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Re: Breakpoint Exception

2017-06-27 Thread Mason83 
On 26/06/2017 22:25, Tom Pamin wrote:

> On shutdown several times I got a breakpoint exception error for plugin 
> container.exe. My PC then shutdown normally. I've read this has to do 
> with Firefox, so maybe SM too. Anyone know how to fix this?

Are you saying you have this issue when using FF, or SM, or both?

Which versions?

Is this on Windows? Vista, 7, 8, 10?

Regards.
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