Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 10/18/2017 2:37 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
...

Since I clear 'History' with every closure of SeaMonkey, I have no Places.sqlite
file.


You don't keep bookmarks?

I thought bookmarks were taken out of that file in SM 2.0.
Any how I found it at 10MB in all my SM profiles and also at 10MB in TOR


AFAIK, everything is kept in places.sqlite including bookmarks. I always 
copy that file to use with other SeaMonkey and Firefox installations.

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Re: Compact

[Mason83]

On 18/10/2017 22:30, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Mason83 wrote:
> 
>> On 18/10/2017 20:30, MonkeyAround wrote:
>>
>>> 2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have to
>>> download all of them again ?
>>
>> I think so. Copying the appropriate msf file should do the trick.
> 
> Are you sure? I thought the msf file was just an index file, with no 
> content. For example, in your mail folders, "Inbox" has the content and 
> "Inbox.msf" is the corresponding index file. So I would expect you to 
> have to copy both to the target PC.

I was wrong and you're right, as Chris points out.
The msf file contains headers and formatting information.
The extension-less file contains the actual bodies for a NG.

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Re: Compact

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-10-18 2:30 PM, MonkeyAround wrote:

Certain newsgroups I like to use off-line and keep around forever.

1) how do i verify that they are really on my PC ?


Disconnect your PC. :)
SeaMonkey keeps a session cache of online messages you've read during 
the session, so start SeaMonkey after disconnecting. SeaMonkey should 
detect that you're offline, and go into offline mode.

Then view your messages to verify that they are there.

2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have to 
download all of them again ?


When you've downloaded newsgroup messages for offline reading, a 
separate file with no extension will be created to hold offline messages.

For example:
"mozilla.support.seamonkey" and "mozilla.support.seamonkey.msf"

1. Go to Help-->Troubleshooting_Information.
2. Click [Show Folder]. Windows Explorer window will open in your 
profile folder.

3. Close SeaMonkey.
4. In your profile folder, go the \News\ folder.
5. Copy the files named after the news server.

After you've set up the account in your destination PC, close SeaMonkey 
and replace the newly created files with the ones from your old profile.


But if you're transferring to a different PC, I recommend transferring 
the entire profile. For more info, see 
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Re: Compact

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Earlier today, I wrote:


Mason83 wrote:


On 18/10/2017 20:30, MonkeyAround wrote:


2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have
to download all of them again ?


I think so. Copying the appropriate msf file should do the trick.


Are you sure? I thought the msf file was just an index file, with no
content. For example, in your mail folders, "Inbox" has the content
and "Inbox.msf" is the corresponding index file. So I would expect
you to have to copy both to the target PC.


Looks like you are. My msf file for this newsgroup is 49 MB.

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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

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On 10/18/17 6:59 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

During that call the problem account was given a new password.
I just tried to read mail on that account and was blocked with SeaMonkey 
asking for a password. I entered the new password. I could then read 
mail BUT still have the same error message when attempting to send.



Did you change the password for the SMTP server? Changing the password 
for receiving mail does not change both.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2017 03:27 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 18/10/2017 21:26, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have two email accounts with my ISP.
I can receive mail on both accounts.
My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an old backup.

The error message is:
"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  From
address must match authenticated address.  Please verify that your email
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."

Is there some way to locally capture outgoing messages from both
accounts for comparison purposes?

Is there a way to print out all the settings for each account?


Your two accounts are probably using the same SMTP settings.

Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings...
Bottom option = Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Create the other setting, then make the account point to the
new setting.

Might be uselful:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
https://www.lifewire.com/pop-imap-smtp-traffic-thunderbird-1173156

Regards.



Thanks for the links. I'll be able to study them tomorrow.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2017 03:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


I have two email accounts with my ISP. I can receive mail on both
accounts. My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an
old backup.

The error message is: "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail
server responded:  From address must match authenticated address.
Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
preferences and try again."


Many mail servers do this as a way of blocking spam.



That's evidently not the case. My ISP is local and I spoke to them 
before making this post. That why I was looking for a detailed log of 
what was going out.


During that call the problem account was given a new password.
I just tried to read mail on that account and was blocked with SeaMonkey 
asking for a password. I entered the new password. I could then read 
mail BUT still have the same error message when attempting to send.




Here's a workaround:

1) Create a second SMTP server with all the same settings but the other
username.

2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

Detailed instructions:

1) Create a second SMTP server:

a) From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings...
and scroll to the bottom of the list, where you'll see "Outgoing Server
(SMTP)." Click once to expand it.

b) Choose the existing SMTP server and click "Edit." Note down all the
settings (without changing any), or if you find it more convenient, take
a screenshot and print it out. Click "Cancel" to exit without saving
changes.

c) In the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" dialog, click "Add" and create a new
SMTP server with all the same settings except the username at bottom.
Make sure to give it a different name ("Description" at the top) so you
and SM can tell them apart. Save.

2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings..., and
click the name of the second mail account." Near the bottom of the
dialog, click "Outgoing Server (SMTP):". From the pull-down list, choose
the new server you just created, and click "OK" to save.

That should do it. You may be prompted for a new password the first time
SM uses it, but probably not.



I will have to wait until tomorrow to try that.

Thank you.

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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

[JAS]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

2.49.1 candidate 4

Where does one download the 2.49.1 candidate 4 version?

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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Mr. Ed]

On 10/18/17 5:07 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 10/18/2017 1:22 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
>> On 10/18/17 4:30 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> Since I clear 'History' with every closure of SeaMonkey, I have no 
>> Places.sqlite
>> file.
>
> You don't keep bookmarks?
I thought bookmarks were taken out of that file in SM 2.0. 
Any how I found it at 10MB in all my SM profiles and also at 10MB in TOR

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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 10/18/2017 1:22 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 10/18/17 4:30 AM, Ant wrote:

Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/

Thank you in advance. :)


Since I clear 'History' with every closure of SeaMonkey, I have no Place.sqlite
file.


You don't keep bookmarks?
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Re: Compact

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mason83 wrote:


On 18/10/2017 20:30, MonkeyAround wrote:


2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have to
download all of them again ?


I think so. Copying the appropriate msf file should do the trick.


Are you sure? I thought the msf file was just an index file, with no 
content. For example, in your mail folders, "Inbox" has the content and 
"Inbox.msf" is the corresponding index file. So I would expect you to 
have to copy both to the target PC.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:


I have two email accounts with my ISP. I can receive mail on both
accounts. My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an
old backup.

The error message is: "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail
server responded:  From address must match authenticated address.
Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
preferences and try again."


Many mail servers do this as a way of blocking spam.

Here's a workaround:

1) Create a second SMTP server with all the same settings but the other 
username.


2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

Detailed instructions:

1) Create a second SMTP server:

a) From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings... 
and scroll to the bottom of the list, where you'll see "Outgoing Server 
(SMTP)." Click once to expand it.


b) Choose the existing SMTP server and click "Edit." Note down all the 
settings (without changing any), or if you find it more convenient, take 
a screenshot and print it out. Click "Cancel" to exit without saving 
changes.


c) In the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" dialog, click "Add" and create a new 
SMTP server with all the same settings except the username at bottom. 
Make sure to give it a different name ("Description" at the top) so you 
and SM can tell them apart. Save.


2) Set the second mail account to use the "other" SMTP server.

From a mail window, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings..., 
and click the name of the second mail account." Near the bottom of the 
dialog, click "Outgoing Server (SMTP):". From the pull-down list, choose 
the new server you just created, and click "OK" to save.


That should do it. You may be prompted for a new password the first time 
SM uses it, but probably not.


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Re: Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Mason83]

On 18/10/2017 21:26, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have two email accounts with my ISP.
> I can receive mail on both accounts.
> My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an old backup.
> 
> The error message is:
> "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  From 
> address must match authenticated address.  Please verify that your email 
> address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."
> 
> Is there some way to locally capture outgoing messages from both 
> accounts for comparison purposes?
> 
> Is there a way to print out all the settings for each account?

Your two accounts are probably using the same SMTP settings.

Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings...
Bottom option = Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Create the other setting, then make the account point to the
new setting.

Might be uselful:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
https://www.lifewire.com/pop-imap-smtp-traffic-thunderbird-1173156

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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Mr. Ed]

On 10/18/17 4:30 AM, Ant wrote:
> Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

Since I clear 'History' with every closure of SeaMonkey, I have no Place.sqlite
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Re: Compact

[Mason83]

On 18/10/2017 20:30, MonkeyAround wrote:

> Certain newsgroups I like to use off-line and keep around forever.
> 
> 1) how do i verify that they are really on my PC ?

File > Offline > Download/Sync Now...

> 2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have to 
> download all of them again ?

I think so. Copying the appropriate msf file should do the trick.

> 3) how do I compact those files ?

I'm not sure one compacts Newsgroup folders.

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Cannot send emails from one of two email addresses

[Richard Owlett]

I have two email accounts with my ISP.
I can receive mail on both accounts.
My profile folder had been deleted and I am working from an old backup.

The error message is:
"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  From 
address must match authenticated address.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


Is there some way to locally capture outgoing messages from both 
accounts for comparison purposes?


Is there a way to print out all the settings for each account?

TIA

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Compact

[MonkeyAround]

Certain newsgroups I like to use off-line and keep around forever.

1) how do i verify that they are really on my PC ?

2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have to 
download all of them again ?


3) how do I compact those files ?
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Re: American Express web site not working properly with SM 2.48

[rjkrjk]

Ray_Net wrote on 10/17/17 9:44 AM:

rjkrjk wrote on 17-10-17 15:00:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 10/16/17 10:48 PM:

rjkrjk wrote:


you're absolutely correctthats what I got, so I looked it up,
kinda hard to believe that the AX website, crashed, overloaded or
other very simple explanations.

for anyone else having this problem, I cut/pasted the
explanation
..

To quote the definition of 502 Bad Gateway from Wikipedia: "The
server was acting as a gateway or proxy and received an invalid
response from the upstream server." There are many other 5xx server
error messages, all of which boil down to: "The server failed to
fulfill an apparently valid request." They don't tell you much about
the real source of the problem.

The second thing to try is a different browser. There are plenty to
choose from, and there's no reason why you can't run two at a time.
At the moment, I'm running Mozilla Firefox 22 and Microsoft's
Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7. If a site doesn't work or looks
broken in one browser, it only takes a second or two to paste the
address into the other.
...


If the problem is with the server, what difference does it make what the user 
does? Will a
different browser generate a different command that the upstream server might 
be able to
handle?



it seems that it does for some strange reason
SM... didnt work
FF worked


The User Agent string are different ...
FF say: I am FF
SM say: I am SM and also I am FF


that's surely the initial problemthere are probably other issues after that











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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> Can you recommend any of these?

No. 2.53 is the end of the line for probably a few months to a year at 
least. Mozilla really broke the code with all the removals and more to 
come. I have 2.55 patched up with a bunch of interim fixes but most 
add-ons are broken.


Use 2.49.1 candidate 4 if you want a stable release now. I can provide a 
2.53 but if you are after security updates this will only be good till 
Fx 57 is released.


FRG

Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks FRG.

At present I'm using 2.53a1, and I've noticed there are 2.54a1 and 
2.55a1 versions.


Can you recommend any of these?

Dirk

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Which version / build id? This was broken in 2.53+ for some time and 
fixed 4 weeks ago.


Bug 1379369

FRG


> Dirk Munk wrote:
When I open a link from another application, I will get a new and 
completely empty window, instead of a new tab with the web page.


I looked in the browser preferences, and everything seems to be ok.

What can cause this problem?






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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

[Dirk Munk]

Thanks FRG.

At present I'm using 2.53a1, and I've noticed there are 2.54a1 and 
2.55a1 versions.


Can you recommend any of these?

Dirk

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Which version / build id? This was broken in 2.53+ for some time and 
fixed 4 weeks ago.


Bug 1379369

FRG


> Dirk Munk wrote:
When I open a link from another application, I will get a new and 
completely empty window, instead of a new tab with the web page.


I looked in the browser preferences, and everything seems to be ok.

What can cause this problem?




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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

[Dirk Munk]

Daniel wrote:

On 17/10/2017 8:23 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

When I open a link from another application, I will get a new and
completely empty window, instead of a new tab with the web page.

I looked in the browser preferences, and everything seems to be ok.

What can cause this problem?


Dirk, have a look at Edit->Preferences->Browser->Link Behavior->Link 
open behavior->Open links meant to open..


I think the middle setting is what you are after. And also check the 
Links from other applications setting!




Thanks, I had checked those settings. They were middle - middle - 
middle, and after the problem occurred I changed it to middle - top - 
middle. Didn't help of course, this seems to be the 2.53a1 problem.

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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/18/2017 at 4:30 AM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:

Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/

Thank you in advance. :)


Always 10,240 Kb.  I save history for 180 days.  1,328 bookmarks.



Never cleared mine and have migrated my profile from Communicator and 
copied this profile from back Win9x... long time and mine is 60MB


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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/18/2017 at 4:30 AM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:

Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/

Thank you in advance. :)


Always 10,240 Kb.  I save history for 180 days.  1,328 bookmarks.

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Re: How big does your place.sqlite file get?

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On 10/18/2017 1:30 AM, Ant wrote:
> Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

I believe places.sqlite is forced to be at least 10 MB.  This was done
at the same time (around 2011) the ability of users to have the history
of visiting a Web page automatically expire after some user-set number
of days.  Now, history expires for the oldest entry only when some
excessive number of history entries are stored.

Before doing a system-wide backup, I run SpeedyFox, which currently
reduces the size to 2.7 MB.  That reverts back to 10 MB when I terminate
my browser.  I got SpeedyFox at .


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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Which version / build id? This was broken in 2.53+ for some time and 
fixed 4 weeks ago.


Bug 1379369

FRG


> Dirk Munk wrote:
When I open a link from another application, I will get a new and 
completely empty window, instead of a new tab with the web page.


I looked in the browser preferences, and everything seems to be ok.

What can cause this problem?


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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

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On 17/10/2017 8:23 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

When I open a link from another application, I will get a new and
completely empty window, instead of a new tab with the web page.

I looked in the browser preferences, and everything seems to be ok.

What can cause this problem?


Dirk, have a look at Edit->Preferences->Browser->Link Behavior->Link 
open behavior->Open links meant to open..


I think the middle setting is what you are after. And also check the 
Links from other applications setting!


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Re:  1389022 - "AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey" does not work any longer

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On 10/17/2017 5:31 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Helllo,

anybody here with skills to find the reasons and/or to try to find a fix
for this  Bug?


I had forgotten about that.  I had that extension way back but not for 
awhile now.  I just link an extension for Fx that I'd like to use on 
SeaMonkey to Addon Converter and try to convert it.  The one you list in 
the bug (dictionaries) won't convert as there is no install.rdf found in 
the installer.

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How big does your place.sqlite file get?

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Mine gets up to 30 MB with 30 days of histories. :/

Thank you in advance. :)
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