Seamonkey version shuffling

2017-10-20 Thread NFN Smith
I see that the release of 2.49.1 is beginning to show up on some of the 
third-party download sites.  To me, that's a positive indication that 
2.49.1 is almost at official release. I know that some of these sites 
will start showing downloads as soon as they hit the official Mozilla 
server, although I'm content to wait until formally offered at 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/.


At the moment, I'm actually running Adrian Kalla's 2.51 build (in 
Windows), because I wanted to make sure I was running with security 
updates that hadn't yet hit the official releases.  Now, with things 
better sorted out with Firefox ESR builds, I'm happy to move back to the 
official releases, but I want to make sure I do so without disrupting my 
installations.


I *think* the procedure I want is:
- Back up current profiles
- Uninstall the 2.51 installation
- Perform new install with the 2.49.1 installer.

The one thing that I'm unsure about is fallback, if something goes 
wrong. I'm not seeing any downloads of Adrian's installers (and I think 
I did mine at about 2.49, with subsequent incremental updates).


Anything that I need to be aware of before attempting this transition?

Smith

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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread Dirk Munk

That would be great FRG, perhaps with the use of wetransfer.com ?

Dirk

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I am with you but providing 64 bit versions with the current 
infrastructure is not trivial. Also mapi is still broken in all TB and 
SeaMonkey 64 bit versions. This will be resolved over time. Even 
Firefox only switched the x86 users to x64 with the current version.


If you need a 64 bit version I can provide a local build. In fact 
using it right now :)


FRG

Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks, but there is no 64 bit Windows version.
The Windows version is still developed in 32 bit, and at the very end 
of the testing a 64 bit version is produced?


How many 32 bit Windows systems are still around? Can't be that many, 
XP and Vista were primarily used as 32 bit versions, but I guess from 
Windows 7 onwards people installed 64 bit versions.


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

> Can you recommend any of these?

No. 2.53 is the end of the line for probably a few months to a year 
at least. Mozilla really broke the code with all the removals and 
more to come. I have 2.55 patched up with a bunch of interim fixes 
but most add-ons are broken.


Use 2.49.1 candidate 4 if you want a stable release now. I can 
provide a 2.53 but if you are after security updates this will only 
be good till Fx 57 is released.


FRG

Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks FRG.

At present I'm using 2.53a1, and I've noticed there are 2.54a1 and 
2.55a1 versions.


Can you recommend any of these?

Dirk

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Which version / build id? This was broken in 2.53+ for some time 
and fixed 4 weeks ago.


Bug 1379369

FRG


> Dirk Munk wrote:
When I open a link from another application, I will get a new and 
completely empty window, instead of a new tab with the web page.


I looked in the browser preferences, and everything seems to be ok.

What can cause this problem?












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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread Dirk Munk

Daniel wrote:

On 20/10/2017 1:40 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks, but there is no 64 bit Windows version.
The Windows version is still developed in 32 bit, and at the very end of
the testing a 64 bit version is produced?

How many 32 bit Windows systems are still around? Can't be that many, XP
and Vista were primarily used as 32 bit versions, but I guess from
Windows 7 onwards people installed 64 bit versions.


While this HP 6730b is a 64bit machine, the OS that was installed on 
it when I brought it eight years ago was Win7 WOW, which, I believe, 
is a 32bit OS modified to run on a 64bit machine


Being long-term unemployed (or under-employed), my financial situation 
does not allow me to update my system every five years or so!! ;-(


You should have received many emails from MS enabling you to install 
Windows 10. And indeed, by completely reinstalling Windows you can use 
64bit Windows 10. If possible add some memory, and you want recognize 
your PC, so much faster can it be. When I went from Windows 7 to Windows 
8, it was remarkable to how much snappier Windows was. And that was from 
64 bit Win 7 to 64 bit Win 8 on a notebook with 32GB.

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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread Dirk Munk

chokito wrote:

The 32 bit version works fine on a 64 bit Windows 7 and other Windows systems.
I'm well aware of that. However I prefer to run 64 bit applications on a 
64 bit OS, that is the native mode.

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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread TCW

On 10/20/2017 7:57 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 20/10/2017 1:40 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks, but there is no 64 bit Windows version.
The Windows version is still developed in 32 bit, and at the very end of
the testing a 64 bit version is produced?

How many 32 bit Windows systems are still around? Can't be that many, XP
and Vista were primarily used as 32 bit versions, but I guess from
Windows 7 onwards people installed 64 bit versions.


While this HP 6730b is a 64bit machine, the OS that was installed on it 
when I brought it eight years ago was Win7 WOW, which, I believe, is a 
32bit OS modified to run on a 64bit machine


Being long-term unemployed (or under-employed), my financial situation 
does not allow me to update my system every five years or so!! ;-(




One of the nice things with Windows 10 is that you can update to it for 
free so long as you know the license key of your PC. One of the last 
times I tried updating to a fresh install of Win 10 using my existing 
Win 7 x64 Pro key, it worked. The free tool Produkey from Nirsoft will 
let you get your Windows key and Microsoft has a free tool called 
Windows 10 Media Creation Tool which will allow you to download the 
Windows 10 ISO. If you have a spare (or perhaps a friend with a spare) 
used hard drive, you could always burn the Windows 10 ISO to DVD and try 
installing Windows 10 to a spare hard drive so as not to mess up your 
existing setup. There are a few 500GB hard drives on Newegg for between 
$40-50 new. So no need to buy a new machine, just upgrade the OS. Good luck.

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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/19/2017 09:40 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks, but there is no 64 bit Windows version.
The Windows version is still developed in 32 bit, and at the very end of
the testing a 64 bit version is produced?

How many 32 bit Windows systems are still around? Can't be that many, XP
and Vista were primarily used as 32 bit versions, but I guess from
Windows 7 onwards people installed 64 bit versions.


New machine ARE sold with M$ Windows. So what? 
I haven't used Windows since WinXP.
When I went to Linux I used 32  because I needed compatibility for some 
volunteer work.
That has changed, but I've seen no advantage in switching to 64 bit even 
though my machines have 64 bit processors.


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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread Daniel

On 20/10/2017 1:40 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks, but there is no 64 bit Windows version.
The Windows version is still developed in 32 bit, and at the very end of
the testing a 64 bit version is produced?

How many 32 bit Windows systems are still around? Can't be that many, XP
and Vista were primarily used as 32 bit versions, but I guess from
Windows 7 onwards people installed 64 bit versions.


While this HP 6730b is a 64bit machine, the OS that was installed on it 
when I brought it eight years ago was Win7 WOW, which, I believe, is a 
32bit OS modified to run on a 64bit machine


Being long-term unemployed (or under-employed), my financial situation 
does not allow me to update my system every five years or so!! ;-(


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Daniel

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Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window

2017-10-20 Thread chokito
The 32 bit version works fine on a 64 bit Windows 7 and other Windows systems.
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