Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

2018-03-01 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

> My original post was not to start a complaint thread, nor be rude. So this
> will be my last post on this.

I know and didn't want to give offence. It is just that the small things are 
now falling off the cliff because we are short on resources and everyone needs 
to realize this.


Updates will also stay broken. Mozilla denied the project access to the update 
server. We now need to set up our own and this will take time.


FRG


M.Ross wrote:

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

...


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:50 +0100 Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Correct. I know about it and a few other cases too. I can spend time fixing 
these or real bugs. Same for the other devs and maintainers.


My original post was not to start a complaint thread, nor be rude. So this 
will be my last post on this.


I hope you understand I was just pointing out something I discovered that did 
not work. Constructive critique to help is all.


I understand for years now the operation, dedication, and limits Mozilla Org 
volunteers work under. I started using Mozilla browser as soon as it was 
released; ver 0.98 or something? Beta?


I Understand Completely the problems and limits. I don't expect a fix for this 
anytime soon, for the reasons you give. Priorities must be set, time is 
limited to 32 hours a day! Maybe. And competent code volunteers able to help 
are needed.


I just wondered if other users realized this bug existed. Or is my system 
here, buggy once again? And made other comments, maybe wrong.


My access to the inet is extremely limited, and only recovered last fall after 
20 months doing without. I now mooch inet wifi from a neighbor out here in the 
Florida Everglades. Very limited service, outside.


But my Knowledge, Skill, Ability to code is not competent anymore. A young, or 
at least a sharp mind, is required.


I am convinced however, that if the Seamonkey Browser w-Bookmarks, and maybe 
the old Composer, were pulled from the Suite, and being a forked development - 
continued, the problems that exist would subside. Problems that exist often 
due to the "large scale integration"; the Suite with Mail, News, Address-book, 
Chat; too much in one package.


Seamonkey Browser suffers enough trying to deal with all the varieties of code 
from webpages. The plug-ins are proof. Past language problems another -- 
complicated by email and news.


I wish I were able to start a new fork to pull the Browser and run with it. 
Firefox is not it! Seamonkey(since old Mozilla) is worthy, the only GUI 
browser I can, most of the time, depend on. But I use Links2(as text and GUI), 
and Dooble, as backup. Not a joke. Chromium nor related, Google nor Microsoft 
anything, none are options for me.


As long as no people stepping forward and actively help out it will be a 
dollar short a lot of times.


I Understand.


Checkout the website code at:

https://hg.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/seamonkey-project-org/

File a bug and add a patch.

Set a reviewer. You can add me if you want.


I will do as best I can. Probably not much nor soon.


Only filing a bug won't get it fixed btw.


I Understood. And Thanks for everything you and others do.


FRG



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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-01 Thread NoOp
On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:
> Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More
> 
> Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?
> 
> Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.






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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.2 released!

2018-03-01 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/1/2018 4:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
...

Sourceforge is offline.
"The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main
website returns to service."


https://twitter.com/sfnet_ops for the updates. /. is also affected.
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identify the elephant and the ant. So metaphor must come from a very 
different place than that of the logical, intelligent mind. It comes 
from a place that is very courageous, willing to step out of our 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.2 released!

2018-03-01 Thread NoOp
On 2/20/2018 4:53 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 sean nathan wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> After a not so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
>> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.49.2!
>>
>> So please check out [1] or [2].
>>
>> Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.
>>
>> Thanks to all involved,
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>> Links:
>> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.2
>> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.2/
>>
>
> Looking forward to it's arrival via Ubuntuzilla, thanks for the 
> great work developers!
>
> Sean

 I think the Ubuntuzilla administrator needs to be notified there is a 
 new version of Seamonkey.  Someone did that the last time, but I 
 can't find the post...


>>>
>>> I see someone has, so it shouldn't be long now.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Just updated via ubuntuzilla this morning.  Looks good thus far.
>> 
>> Dave
> 
> You guys beat me to it.  Thanks.
> 

But now they are having issues:
Reading package lists... Done
E: Failed to fetch
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt/dists/all/InRelease
 Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require
authentication?)
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

Sourceforge is offline.
"The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main
website returns to service."

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Re: Is there a seamonkey filter option to allow re-send email to another address?

2018-03-01 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Bill Spikowski wrote:
> I didn't think this required an add-on (but I'm not sure...) -- see the 
> "Forward Message To" option
> in the attached screenshot.
> 
> 

Great!many thanks for pointing that out. Just what I was looking for.
> 
> 
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> I have a filter set up to store a certain group of emails in a separate 
>> filter. What I would like to
>> do is using this same filter to also send those emails to another address. 
>> There appears to be an
>> add-on for Thunderbird that allows this to be done but don't know if it 
>> works in SM 2.49.2? Does
>> anyone know of an add-on for SM that will make this work?
>>
> 

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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

2018-03-01 Thread EE

WaltS48 wrote:
Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


If you want just a browser, you could try Pale Moon.  It is pretty good.

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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

2018-03-01 Thread M.Ross

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

...


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:50 +0100 Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Correct. I know about it and a few other cases too. I can spend time fixing 
these or real bugs. Same for the other devs and maintainers.


My original post was not to start a complaint thread, nor be rude. So 
this will be my last post on this.


I hope you understand I was just pointing out something I discovered 
that did not work. Constructive critique to help is all.


I understand for years now the operation, dedication, and limits Mozilla 
Org volunteers work under. I started using Mozilla browser as soon as it 
was released; ver 0.98 or something? Beta?


I Understand Completely the problems and limits. I don't expect a fix 
for this anytime soon, for the reasons you give. Priorities must be set, 
time is limited to 32 hours a day! Maybe. And competent code volunteers 
able to help are needed.


I just wondered if other users realized this bug existed. Or is my 
system here, buggy once again? And made other comments, maybe wrong.


My access to the inet is extremely limited, and only recovered last fall 
after 20 months doing without. I now mooch inet wifi from a neighbor out 
here in the Florida Everglades. Very limited service, outside.


But my Knowledge, Skill, Ability to code is not competent anymore. A 
young, or at least a sharp mind, is required.


I am convinced however, that if the Seamonkey Browser w-Bookmarks, and 
maybe the old Composer, were pulled from the Suite, and being a forked 
development - continued, the problems that exist would subside. Problems 
that exist often due to the "large scale integration"; the Suite with 
Mail, News, Address-book, Chat; too much in one package.


Seamonkey Browser suffers enough trying to deal with all the varieties 
of code from webpages. The plug-ins are proof. Past language problems 
another -- complicated by email and news.


I wish I were able to start a new fork to pull the Browser and run with 
it. Firefox is not it! Seamonkey(since old Mozilla) is worthy, the only 
GUI browser I can, most of the time, depend on. But I use Links2(as text 
and GUI), and Dooble, as backup. Not a joke. Chromium nor related, 
Google nor Microsoft anything, none are options for me.


As long as no people stepping forward and actively help out it will be a 
dollar short a lot of times.


I Understand.


Checkout the website code at:

https://hg.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/seamonkey-project-org/

File a bug and add a patch.

Set a reviewer. You can add me if you want.


I will do as best I can. Probably not much nor soon.


Only filing a bug won't get it fixed btw.


I Understood. And Thanks for everything you and others do.


FRG


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

2018-03-01 Thread M.Ross

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:55 -0500 WaltS48 wrote:
On 02/28/2018 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for 

-snip-
Page Not Found
We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.

The page or file you're looking for wasn't found on our site. It's 
possible that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the 
address incorrectly.


     If you typed in the address, please double check the spelling.
     If you followed a link from somewhere, please let us know at 
webmas...@seamonkey-project.org. Tell us where you came from and what 
you were looking for, and we'll do our best to fix it.


Or you can just jump over to some of the popular pages on our website.

     Were you looking for our downloads?
     Or maybe information about the SeaMonkey project?
     It might just be best to start at the SeaMonkey Home Page.
-snip-

No Webmaster? I know there is turmoil in Zilla-Land, but is it time to 
take a holiday from using Zillas until matters are solved?


Problem is no worthy GUI browser exits. Firefox is too immature, and 
much of it has infected Seamonkey from the stable work it seemed to be 
when first taken over by the original Seamonkey group. Now it is back in 
Moz-Hands for a while.


Chromium is Google junk. Opera is too clumsy / buggy / overloaded / 
bloated / ... -- but it seems Seamonkey is no better than Opera now; 
over-coded or something. What? So---


Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -

applications.



So you didn't click the webmas...@seamonkey-project.org and ask about 
the Page Not Found?


Do you mean email: webmas...@seamonkey-project.org ? Like this:

-snip-
Date: 22 Feb 2018 17:02:32 -
From: mailer-dae...@vfemail.net
To: mross...@vfemail.net
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at vfemail.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

:
92.42.142.148 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 454 4.7.1 : Relay 
access

denied
Giving up on 92.42.142.148.
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
-snip-

Is that a bad email address? Or me doing something wrong?


This might help if you are curious about plugins.




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Is there a seamonkey filter option to allow re-send email to another address?

2018-03-01 Thread Arnie Goetchius
I have a filter set up to store a certain group of emails in a separate filter. 
What I would like to
do is using this same filter to also send those emails to another address. 
There appears to be an
add-on for Thunderbird that allows this to be done but don't know if it works 
in SM 2.49.2? Does
anyone know of an add-on for SM that will make this work?
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